Bill,
I appreciate and Identify with your comments. Your Dad's philosophy as
recounted seems like good advice for us bike tinkerers, probably everyone.
I'm not sure there's much else to say except, it would be nice if it
didn't occasionally cost a nontrivial amount to pursue one's crazy
Steve Cole said "It's clear to me that simply a desire to have the chance
to try out new components before buying them is largely unrealistic. As
Bill Lindsay notes, the bike industry is an equipment industry. It's
nearly impossible to try out equipment and, if one doesn't find it works
for
When I bought my first bike in 1995, I had the dealer swap out the saddle,
stem and handlebars for a more upright and comfortable position and then I
rode that bike with no changes until 2007 when I bought a different bike
that I rode completely stock until 2011. Then I discovered Rivendell.
Thanks for all the thoughtful comments. You all remind me why I stop by
daily to catch up on your latest thinking and, occasionally, purchase a new
to me component.
It's clear to me that simply a desire to have the chance to try out new
components before buying them is largely unrealistic.
This speaks to me, too. I bought my Homer seven years ago as a complete
bike. I'm on the whole very, very happy with it, and impressed with how
well it fit straight outta the box. Maybe I've got the seven year itch,
but now I can't help but wonder what else this frame is capable of--like,
My journey has been a swirl of Riv steel bikes with ever changing setups for
trying different cockpits and load carrying and dyno lighting that has now
seemed to have resolved into the lightest RBW frames possible with bananasax
loads and flat pedals. Fenders on the rain bike. Dyno lights.
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I purchased a Cannondale touring bike some twenty years ago. I was
dissatisfied with the set up of the bike and resorted to Rivendell to
change the bars, seat post and saddle. After a lilltle while, I swapped
out the stem, another set of bars, the bell and bought some pretty bottle
cages.
Long ago I found that I detest wide bars, and took to cutting them down to
comfortable length where this was possible. A bar that is uncomfortable can
become quite comfortable with up to a couple of inches taken off each end.
I've done this with North Road bars, any number of '90s era mountain
Please sir...whisper. You are in the Bikebrary.
“Yes, I am looking for anything you might have on Moustache Bars.”.
“Is that pre-2013 or during the later albastache era?”.
“That will be pre-2013, madam.”.
“A fine selection.” “That will be in the 600’s under Instruments of Torture”.
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Most on this list (myself included) are people who like to tinker and
rarely seemed to be satisfied with anything "stock" as far a bikes are
concerned. If you are trying to "optimize" anything, you will need to
expend resources (time/energy/money).
How much would anybody on this list pay to
I'm not answering for Steve... but reading through this thread it sounds
like the ideal scenario he's looking for would resemble something like a
LBS with a substantial "parts library" to "try before you buy." I'm aware
of some shops that have such a thing for saddle demos but I honestly don't
I like Zappos :). (I've actually never used Zappos before).
Toshi
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 6:30 AM Bill Lindsay wrote:
> Steve Cole said: "I don't believe we should have to make large cash
> outlays to understand whether a component will work well for us." "I
> believe bike shops have an
Steve Cole said: "I don't believe we should have to make large cash
outlays to understand whether a component will work well for us." "I
believe bike shops have an important role to play that many are not
filling."
What role is that, exactly? What would the shop have done exactly to make
Yes, this forum is a great place to get nice stuff in very good condition at
nice prices! Even frames!!
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I too am grateful that people list their parts for sale, I didn’t mean to imply
otherwise. Maybe my point goes to what Lum is saying about research and
reviews. When I see the same stuff up for sale virtually unused often, I
consider that when making my choices. It might raise questions of
I guess I did leave everyone hanging. About two weeks ago, I had my local
bike shop trade out my old bars, shifters and grips for the new ones I'd
chosen. Since then, I've been away about half the time. My initial
impression having ridden may 100 miles is that the new setup is much better
Hey, at least y'all didn't buy a WHOLE BIKE to find out you're not into low
trail. Don't be like me!
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One reason could be that people change their setups alot around here.
Another could be that every component has a good side and bad side:
Supple tyres? Flats/short lived tread life
Berthoud GB25 bags: amazingly functional but over 600g EMPTY and WITHOUT
stiffner. Hea-vy!! Thats why i sold mine.
I’m always a bit surprised at all the stuff I see up for sale here,
particularly all the stuff that is so great but seems to be available with very
little use. I keep wondering if it is so great why do I always see the stuff
up for sale. All my stuff tends to stick with me for life (thus
As for the industry:
They will tell you what a product is supposed to do for you but you won’t know
if true or false until you use the component yourself. This, of course, is
after you have bought the item. So best thing is to research what a product is
told will do for you, then read reviews
Charles Pliesse at College Park Bikes in College Park MD will help you with
options. Former rivdealer. He knows where we are coming from.
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On Sunday, October 28, 2018 at 4:22:42 AM UTC-7, Steve Cole wrote:
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> So my question is what can the bike industry do to help cyclists better
> understand the component choices they have and the effects on riding will
> be with different components?
>
Lol, there is or use to be a place
Very costly to experiment and laborious if you do the wrenching yourself.
Lets say you wanted to try dyno lights fenders and a front bag:
$550 for dyno front wheel custom built
$80 for front rack (and thats a cheaper rack)
100-250$ for decent headlight that will never shine as good as the online
Ugh, I’m in the middle of one of these episodes right now. Im also about 300$
further in than I expected. Usually I can recoup some loss by reselling, so
that’s some consolation. Curiosity stings.
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But wait, you've left us hanging! Your story had a fine beginning, an
enticing middle, but no ending. What happened? How did the switch to
Bullmoose bars suit you? I'll not be able to sleep tonight unless you run
on a bit longer...
Leroy
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