[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting and Riding Tips?

2012-05-15 Thread Michael Hechmer
Ouch, Zach. I'm not sure how that can happen. Did you hit it with your tones pointed in? You might want to think about a simple toe clip. I use the Bruce Gordon with the White pedal on my town - errand - touring bike; and like them a lot because they pretty much keep my foot settled while

[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting and Riding Tips?

2012-05-15 Thread Zack
Nope, it was my heel. i hopped up onto the pedal, my heel kind of missed the target (pedal) and found a new target (front derailer). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit

[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting and Riding Tips?

2012-05-14 Thread Zack
I find this to be relatively amusing: One of the tips in here was to switch to a compact double. Well, last week, I was in traffic in our downtown and pushed down with a ton of force to get up to speed really quickly at a green light. I am a big dude, and I ended up driving my sneaker down

[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting and Riding Tips?

2012-05-05 Thread Zack
just finished Just Ride, and there is a bunch of good stuff in the book. if you come across this thread and are looking for more tips/insight, pick up the book! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the

[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting and Riding Tips?

2012-05-05 Thread Michael Hechmer
OK, I probably shouldn't post this, but I can't resist. There's a common topic on the tandem list about people yelling, Hey fella, she's not pedaling. label this, she's not shifting. Two years ago we bought a tandem, and my wife fell in love with it; so much so that, until today, she hadn't

[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting and Riding Tips?

2012-04-19 Thread Frank Brose
Joes' advice is great. It's simple stuff. It's like learning to ride a bikeonce you figure it out (and that's not to tough) you just get better. I prefer it but it's what I learned on and still think it's as good as it gets. You have to dance on the pedals so to speak. In fact, given my

[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting and Riding Tips?

2012-04-18 Thread RJM
Hey, Bicycling Magazine every so often is good for something. I kid, I kid. On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 10:02:56 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: What may seem intuitive to me today came from reading exactly the way you're doing now. It may be possible to teach oneself all the shifting

[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting and Riding Tips?

2012-04-18 Thread pam
Which one is the shifter bolt? If I ask the LBS will they know which one it is? I do have the Silver shifters. It is a 8 speed. It only skips occasionally - twice in 14 miles. It's more an annoyance since there are no squeaks or rattles otherwise. Thanks, Pam On Apr 17, 8:07 pm, Jim Thill -

[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting and Riding Tips?

2012-04-18 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
It's the little loop bolt that attaches the shifter to the frame or to the bar-end pod. You can tighten it with your fingers. Your LBS will know exactly what to do, if you ask. On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 11:03:25 AM UTC-5, pam wrote: Which one is the shifter bolt? If I ask the LBS will

[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting and Riding Tips?

2012-04-18 Thread Ryan Ray
I'm a friction noob too but some things that helped me: - Move to a compact double. Seriously. I have one less gear I didn't need anyway and I fiddle with my shifters 90% less. Anyone who says a triple in front is just as easy as a double hash been riding bikes for a very long

[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting and Riding Tips?

2012-04-18 Thread Jim
I have this 25 year hole in my riding history, stopped around 1987, just restarted last year. So i've never NOT shifted friction. Before my Hilsen, I was grinding gears through an old (and miserable) schwinn-approved Huret. That will get upgraded if i ever bring that bike back on line...

[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting and Riding Tips?

2012-04-18 Thread Michael Hechmer
Right on happycamper! I couldn't agree more. I run both a double and triples in 9 speed mode and am happy with both, but anyone who says a triple is just as easy to use as a double is probably in denial. My favorite setup is on my Ram, 44/30 rings on a White Ind Crank mated to an 11/28 9

[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting and Riding Tips?

2012-04-17 Thread Joe Bernard
The remedies for throwing chains I've used is careful adjustment of the front derailer, and making those front shifts gently. One rule of them which will contribute to shifting this way is shift before you need to. If you're approaching an incline that will require the granny ring, go ahead

[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting and Riding Tips?

2012-04-17 Thread Michael Hechmer
I'm not quite sure what you mean by throwing chains on the big granny gear, but assume you mean the chain overshifts and falls to the outside of the ring. If so there are three possible causes. The limit screws in the F dr may need to be tightened just a bit. You can also buy a chain

[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting and Riding Tips?

2012-04-17 Thread Zack
I have thrown the chain off the outside ring (i.e. the chain goes too far outside) and off the inside ring (i.e. it goes too far inside). I have fiddled with the limit screws and followed the riv install a derailer video, by my eye things look right. Setup questions: I have the Alpina FD 8

[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting and Riding Tips?

2012-04-17 Thread Michael Hechmer
I'm not familiar with that derailler. Make sure the derailler is only a couple of mm above the big ring. Some deraillers, including the popular 105, have such a long cage that they cannot be lowered down to a 46 ring without hitting the chain stay. I use the Campy, which has a pretty short

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction Shifting and Riding Tips?

2012-04-17 Thread Eric Norris
From the Master (Sheldon Brown): Everything you need to know about chain wear, skipping, etc.: http://sheldonbrown.com/chains.html --Eric N On Apr 17, 2012, at 4:34 PM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not familiar with that derailler. Make sure the derailler is only a

[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting and Riding Tips?

2012-04-17 Thread Zack
FD was from Riv, I had them do the setup last year when I got the bike. It would surprise me if I had already worn out either a chainring or a casette, only rode the Sam for the end of the summer until now, less than 1,000 miles I would imagine. slipping on the cogs, not the rings. have

[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting and Riding Tips?

2012-04-17 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
If it's skipping around the rear cluster with Silver shifters, I'd suggest making sure the shifter bolt is tight. Also, I find that these shifters are at their best with 7/8sp cassettes or freewheels. With 9sp, the ratcheting is too imprecise for my tastes, but others report apparently

[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting and Riding Tips?

2012-04-17 Thread Joe Bernard
Zack, I live in a hilly area so I use all three rings pretty often..this may not apply to your terrain. Like you, I ride flattish roads in the middle ring, but when approaching an incline I'll usually shift to the small ring up front before bottoming out the gears in back. So my conditions are

[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting and Riding Tips?

2012-04-17 Thread Zack
Joe - Thank you for the response - perfect description, and also the exact opposite of what I have been doing. To some of you guys may just be intuitive or obvious, but it takes me a little bit to catch on to things. I will also tighten the silvers up again. It does seem like I have to *

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction Shifting and Riding Tips?

2012-04-17 Thread Horace
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: I will also tighten the silvers up again. It does seem like I have to * really* have them tight in order for them not to slip on the Sam. I had a Salsa Casseroll that had silvers which was not nearly as finnicky. I had this

[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting and Riding Tips?

2012-04-17 Thread Joe Bernard
What may seem intuitive to me today came from reading exactly the way you're doing now. It may be possible to teach oneself all the shifting tricks strictly from riding and doing, but I prefer to ask someone who already knows them. My front shifting approach was derived from a Bicycling