[RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

2023-11-20 Thread Chung Eun Kim
Thanks for the out of box view on this question. Since Soma is running Black Friday sale on their frames, I'm tempted. However, it really depends on her, not me. We are planning to go test ride Platy from HQ, but not sure where I can find a Soma BV bike that she can test ride. I personally

[RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

2023-11-20 Thread Jobbing Drummer
I’d like to weigh in…. Garth’s advice is SAGE. I agree that trading the Clem for a Platy would NOT solve the problem you hope to address. Riding weight and schlepping weight are two different metrics. I owned and loved a Cheviot, but it was long and heavy and not something I’d like to lug

[RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

2023-11-13 Thread Bill Schairer
For those looking for light and zippy step through bikes, this one looks like one special bike: "Albert Eisentraut Limited possibly one of a kind . I posted this bike on Bike forums and no one had seen one before , So most likely a special order . Small frame size. All Campagnolo Components.

[RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

2023-11-12 Thread Sarah Carlson
I had a different steel frame and all I can describe is that when I was riding I felt like I was dragging every pound of that bike along, where with the Platypus it feels like it is leaping forward. I just don't feel it. Even as I have added racks, bags, fenders and I keep asking when it will

Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

2023-11-11 Thread Joe Bernard
"Some won’t like to hear this, but honestly, it’s the truth." Whether some want to hear it or not, honestly, it's an opinion. On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 3:35:56 PM UTC-8 Hoch in ut wrote: > What’s your wife wanting out of the bike? If it’s aesthetics, and > specifically to steel/lugged

Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

2023-11-11 Thread Hoch in ut
What’s your wife wanting out of the bike? If it’s aesthetics, and specifically to steel/lugged frames, Riv is great. But if it’s ride quality, I’m not so disillusioned with Rivendell (despite having owned several and own one now)that I can objectively say, there are plenty of other bikes that

Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

2023-11-11 Thread Chung Eun Kim
Thank you so much for all the responses! Since we are living not too far from the Riv HQ, we may visit and see if how she likes the Platy. She rides 45cm Clem, so we may need to check if her PBH fits 50cm Platy. If that goes well, we may stick with Riv. Otherwise, I will take a look outside

[RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

2023-11-11 Thread Chung Eun Kim
Her size is 45cm Clem. I'm thinking of 50cm Platy given her height is 5'4". On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 11:52:04 PM UTC+1 Joe Bernard wrote: > What size is her Clem? The current 52 is VERY long, this puts weight > wy out there when she's moving it around and lifting. > > On Thursday,

[RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

2023-11-10 Thread Joe Bernard
What size is her Clem? The current 52 is VERY long, this puts weight wy out there when she's moving it around and lifting. On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 8:21:50 AM UTC-8 chungeu...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi, > > I bought a complete Clem L for my wife and she enjoyed riding it so far. >

Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

2023-11-10 Thread Richard Rose
Wheels & tires I suspect.Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 10, 2023, at 1:46 PM, Doug H. wrote:Jake,That is interesting that the bikes are about equal in weight but one rides "zippier and lighter". I've heard this before in comparing the Clem to the Platypus but I just don't know what qualities makes a

[RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

2023-11-10 Thread Garth
I knew there was a frame/bike I forget, the Handsome Cycles She Devil models.Once again these will be considerable lighter to pick up and move around when not riding, which as far I read is what Chung is referring to. I think buying another super long chainstay model would be a costly mistake.

[RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

2023-11-10 Thread Garth
I knew there was a frame/bike I forget, the Handsome Cycles She Devil models.Once again these will be considerable lighter to pick up and move around when not riding, which as far I read is what Chung is referring to. I think buying another super long chainstay model would be a costly mistake.

[RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

2023-11-10 Thread Doug H.
Jake, That is interesting that the bikes are about equal in weight but one rides "zippier and lighter". I've heard this before in comparing the Clem to the Platypus but I just don't know what qualities makes a bike feel zippier if it isn't lighter weight. Thanks, Doug On Friday, November 10,

[RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

2023-11-10 Thread Jake Kutchins
I agree with what Garth is saying about weight/size differences. Depending on the respective builds and how the sizing falls, it's possible that a Platypus could be every bit as long and heavy as a Clem. As people in the 81-84cm pbh range, I have a 55cm Platypus and my dad has a 52cm Clem, and

Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

2023-11-10 Thread Johnny Alien
I don't know why I would talk someone out of another bike. Tell her to grab a Platy. Listen to Leah not me. The completes are pretty nice. There are some parts I would personally want to swap but overall thats not a terrible setup for a complete. On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 10:04:03 AM

Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

2023-11-10 Thread Ryan
Custom?can't wait to see it Roberta! Cliffhanger wheels? On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 8:38:27 AM UTC-6 Roberta wrote: > I'll post pics when it's put together. :) > > In the meantime, perhaps Chung's wife can try a Platy. > > On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 9:32:50 AM UTC-5

Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

2023-11-10 Thread Roberta
I'll post pics when it's put together. :) In the meantime, perhaps Chung's wife can try a Platy. On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 9:32:50 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote: > @Steve - > Roberta is not telling us yet. She is keeping it a secret, until she's > ready to share it with us. > >

Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

2023-11-10 Thread Kim H.
@Steve - Roberta is not telling us yet. She is keeping it a secret, until she's ready to share it with us. Kim Hetzel. On Fri, Nov 10, 2023, 5:18 AM Steve wrote: > What did Roberta get ??? Inquiring minds want to know !!! > > On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 11:16:34 PM UTC-5 Kim H. wrote: >

[RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

2023-11-10 Thread Steve
What did Roberta get ??? Inquiring minds want to know !!! On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 11:16:34 PM UTC-5 Kim H. wrote: > The suspense grows. I can hear it now. > > On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 7:35:03 PM UTC-8 Roberta wrote: > >> I’m waiting for some of the parts to come in. I’ll post

[RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

2023-11-09 Thread Kim H.
The suspense grows. I can hear it now. On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 7:35:03 PM UTC-8 Roberta wrote: > I’m waiting for some of the parts to come in. I’ll post a new bike day > when done, with story. In the meantime, try a Platy! I think she’ll love > it. > > On Thursday, November 9, 2023

[RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

2023-11-09 Thread Roberta
I’m waiting for some of the parts to come in. I’ll post a new bike day when done, with story. In the meantime, try a Platy! I think she’ll love it. On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 7:16:13 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote: > And I am now dying to know what Roberta got. > > On Thursday, November 9,

[RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

2023-11-09 Thread Johnny Alien
And I am now dying to know what Roberta got. On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 7:15:52 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote: > Fit is a factor too. Rivendell has limited sizes that they stretch to work > for everyone. I happen to sit oddly in the spectrum and can either be at > the top of the range or

[RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

2023-11-09 Thread Johnny Alien
Fit is a factor too. Rivendell has limited sizes that they stretch to work for everyone. I happen to sit oddly in the spectrum and can either be at the top of the range or at the bottom of a larger one. I had a S.Hillborne and it didn't even kind of sit in the zippy camp for me. No matter what

[RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

2023-11-09 Thread Roberta
Favorite mixte riding bikes are Platy, Betty Foy, She-Devil, and then down the list, Clem, Cheviot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

2023-11-09 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
Ok, ok, I see it, I’m here at last. I texted and DMd by two people today telling me I need to read this and weigh in. I don’t know that I can give you exact numbers and dimensions and weights, but I can tell you I know exactly what your wife is saying, Chung. Can I be bold here and just make

[RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

2023-11-09 Thread Roberta
My favorite Riv Mixte rides in order are Betty Foy, Platy, ClemL, Cheviot. On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 6:23:55 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote: > I have a 55 Platy and have ridden a Clem L. Leah, BicycleBelleDingDing, > has both. Clem L is significantly longer and heavier, but let Leah weigh >

[RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

2023-11-09 Thread Roberta
I have a 55 Platy and have ridden a Clem L. Leah, BicycleBelleDingDing, has both. Clem L is significantly longer and heavier, but let Leah weigh in. Platy is a perfect pavement bike--looks pretty and feels great. However, it is long (although it is 5 inches shorter than 52 Clem L) and

[RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

2023-11-09 Thread Garth
Chung, If your wife finds the Clem too long and heavy a Platypus is not going to make a effective difference in regards to weight or maneuvering. What would is a frame like a Soma Buena Vista (rim brake or disc) or Velo Orange Polyvalent low kicker. Both have relatively typical chainstays and

[RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

2023-11-09 Thread Hoch in ut
I don’t know about the Platypus, but my wife rides a Betty Foy. It rides ligh/zippy and she loves it. Currently has a Wald 137 front basket and a Riv trunk bag. They’re a bit hard to come by but Cheviot was essentially the same bike. Tires are 650b x 38 with fenders. Not sure I’d go larger.

[RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

2023-11-09 Thread DavidP
The Platypus is a shorter bike and will ride a bit zippier due to that. Leah comes to mind as one who has compared the ride between her Platypus and Clem but others may have shared experience as well. In terms of weight - the Clem frame may be a bit heavier but I'd guess not by much. The

[RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

2023-11-09 Thread Johnny Alien
The Clem is more stout for sure but I doubt that the overall frame weight is all that different. Probably really minor actually. I think the biggest difference is that people tend to build up the Platypus frames with lighter and higher end components vs the way a Clem is built. So I think you