[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborn

2017-03-17 Thread Carla Waugh
Thanks everyone for your help and wonderful ideas!! I decided to get a Rosco fatty Rode. I'm excited to have a Rivendell for the future. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborn

2017-03-17 Thread 'Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch
Carla, I'm a bit late with a reply, but I have had two Sam Hillbornes. The first was a double TT 56cm, 2010 vintage - a tad bit too large for me. I used it for rough touring and was satisfied. But, I sold it and bought the beautiful black & cream 55 cm single TT and moved all components -

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborn

2017-03-13 Thread G.E. of EVL
Late to the party... however, I just wanted to say that I've had my Sam for 7 years now and can't imagine not having it. It's been set up with drop bars and albatross bars. It's had racks and bags galore, and I've had it stripped down to ride a bit faster. It handles well both while carrying

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborn

2017-03-13 Thread jeffrey kane
Genius clip: like watching the Marx Bros race Laurel and Hardy and the The Three Stooges ... it almost makes me think that the prerequisite was "no previous bike handling experience allowed" (!) On Sunday, March 12, 2017 at 9:41:24 PM UTC-4, Mark in Beacon wrote: > > Yeah, no. > >

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborn

2017-03-12 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Yeah, no. https://youtu.be/H9_Fs1QtsOY On Sunday, March 12, 2017 at 5:54:50 PM UTC-4, James Warren wrote: > > > Haha > > Bikes on dirt trails though - that was us! > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 12, 2017, at 2:43 PM, "'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch" < > rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborn

2017-03-12 Thread Patrick Moore
No! I said that I don't care! On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > "Very visibly sloping" is your term; are you saying you don't know what it > includes? > > On 03/12/2017 07:00 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > > I'll leave that to someone else to answer. I

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborn

2017-03-12 Thread Steve Palincsar
"Very visibly sloping" is your term; are you saying you don't know what it includes? On 03/12/2017 07:00 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: I'll leave that to someone else to answer. I don't really care. On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Steve Palincsar >

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborn

2017-03-12 Thread Patrick Moore
I'll leave that to someone else to answer. I don't really care. On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > On 03/12/2017 03:50 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > >> Actually, "classic" is level top tube. Me, I don't care about classic, or >> rather, I care about it

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborn

2017-03-12 Thread James Warren
Haha Bikes on dirt trails though - that was us! Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 12, 2017, at 2:43 PM, "'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch" > wrote: > > > > > Of course, if you're inclined the other way... > > > > Remember boys and girls--our

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborn

2017-03-12 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 03/12/2017 03:50 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: Actually, "classic" is level top tube. Me, I don't care about classic, or rather, I care about it much less than fit. But Rivs with very visibly sloping tts are not classic designs. And I take it the 1-2 degree slope to be found on the

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborn

2017-03-12 Thread Patrick Moore
So a classic is something that everyone really likes. Then I agree, the SH is a classic. Patrick Moore, who thinks the absolute pinnacle of Jeff Bridges' career is True Grit (move over, Wayne, you smarmy wuss). On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 2:29 PM, Bob K. wrote: > Amendment:

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborn

2017-03-12 Thread Bob K.
Amendment: Clearly, "The Big Lebowski" is an objective classic, so allow me to alter the post above to say something actually subjective, such as, "Buffy the Vampire Slayer (1997) is a classic film." Bob K. in Baltimore -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborn

2017-03-12 Thread Bob K.
Patrick, I was considering the word classic in the sense that one would say something subjective like, "The Big Lebowski is a classic film," or even, "That bike is a classic beauty," and not as an objective term. I understand what you mean. Regardless of its non-classic top tube, the Sam is a

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborn

2017-03-12 Thread Patrick Moore
Actually, "classic" is level top tube. Me, I don't care about classic, or rather, I care about it much less than fit. But Rivs with very visibly sloping tts are not classic designs. On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Bob K. wrote: > I have a 2009 Sam, and yes, they've always

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborn

2017-03-12 Thread R Shannon
Yes. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 12, 2017, at 3:00 PM, Carla Waugh wrote: > > Have the Sams always had sloping top tubes? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborn

2017-03-12 Thread Bob K.
I have a 2009 Sam, and yes, they've always had sloping top tubes. It allows a greater range of PBHs to fit each size. "Classic" is relative, and Riv has never been in the business of simply remaking vintage bikes. And if one wants a (mostly) flat top tube Riv, there's always the Atlantis (or a

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborn

2017-03-12 Thread Carla Waugh
Have the Sams always had sloping top tubes? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborn

2017-03-12 Thread Chris Birkenmaier
I have Hetres on my Sam too and second your opinion of sublime! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborn

2017-03-12 Thread blakcloud
When I am on my Sam, I truly love this bike. It does everything I want a bike to do. I consider this my do everything bike from commuting to fun rides, With Hetres, the ride is sublime. With the Marathons, the ride feels solid. It's when I am off the bike and I have to look at it, that I have

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborn

2017-03-11 Thread Cameron Sharp
I've got to concur with most everyone else here. I bought a Sam last December. The day after I first rode it, I could still feel the bike beneath me so vividly -- I'd never had that experience with any other bike. There was something so confident and inspiring about it's lively, but stable

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborn

2017-03-11 Thread Eric Schoenfeld
I am obsessed with my orange Sam. Bike around town, bike 40 miles to work and try to go fast-ish, load up and go camping. Perfect for all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborn

2017-03-11 Thread RichS
Carla, I have a 51cm sage green Sam and I concur with all the praise given here. It's magic! Noodles for bars on mine. For me the Sam may be the other BBITW (with apologies to Leah and her Betty):):):)! Regards, Richard On Wednesday, March 8, 2017 at 7:46:46 PM UTC-5, Carla Waugh wrote: > > I

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborn

2017-03-10 Thread bo richardson
I saw an orange sam locked up just off Broadway i Vancouver BC yesterday. Somone was getting a lot of use out of that bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborn

2017-03-10 Thread Chris Birkenmaier
Carla, you simply can't go wrong with the Sam. I have mine set up with Alfine 8 IGH and bullmoose bars. It rides like a Cadillac. I have a 51 and it fits me great but at the same time "rides large" if that makes any sense. One of my favorite rides! On Wednesday, March 8, 2017 at 7:18:50 PM

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborn

2017-03-10 Thread 'peech1...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch
I bought a Sam 6 years ago. Having such a frame, built to make me more upright, able to carry medium sized loads, ride on gravel or pavement, and light my way through the night changed my life. "Changed my life" is not an overstatement. Another frame could have perhaps accomplished the same

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborn

2017-03-09 Thread Evan E.
Carla: About five years ago I bought a brand-new 56 Sam in 700c. Loved it: comfortable, stable, versatile, fun. I only sold it because I discovered that I much prefer my bikes pre-scratched and at least 20 years old. But that was just my particular illness. The Sam was (is) still a terrific

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborn

2017-03-09 Thread 'Beaverton Bob' via RBW Owners Bunch
Hi Carla, SHORT VERSION: Get one, you will love it. LONG VERSION: I also have a Sam Hillborne, 55cm size, 700c wheels. Just bought it in 2016 from Rivelo here in Portland. I got one of the Complete Drop-Bar bikes. If it matters, they are now $100 less than when I bought mine, and I

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborn

2017-03-09 Thread TampaTech
I have a 55cm Sam on 700c wheels and drop bars. I also have a carbon fiber bike that weighs half as much and a hard tail mountain bike with 2.25" tires. I ride the Sam 95% of the time. I bring the mountain bike if I am driving my truck to the trails and ride the race bike when I want to feel

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborn

2017-03-09 Thread Philip Kim
Carla,I used to have a sam. Great just to ride around, but also useful for running errands etc. I had tektro 559s, and was not a fan. I later switched to Paul Racers which were much better. the sam does all things pretty well, but not excellent at one particular thing, which works for me. most

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborn

2017-03-09 Thread Belopsky
Ive had two 700c Hillbornes. Very stable and comfortable riding if that's your thing. Both of mine were second/third owners and not set up well for me/too overbuilt for my weight = too boring for me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners