That is exactly what I did. Works great. Thanks Jim.
On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 1:48:48 PM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
wrote:
Clayton, you can use your bar end shifters and Dyna-Sys 10sp cassette if
you use a Shimano 9sp derailleur.
On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 11:28:33 AM UTC-5,
Looking at the parent website
http://joy-japan.com
It appears that they are either in cahoots or one and same company as
MicroShift which is interesting
In fact on the joy-japan.com site the two logos a superimposed one above
the other.
On Saturday, April 13, 2013 2:39:55 PM UTC+10,
On Mon, 2013-04-15 at 22:06 -0700, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
Thanks for bringing up those points, Jan - I'm not specifically
against freewheels. My experience was that I regularly bent axles on
my old mtb which had a freewheel and never had that problem with any
freehubs. My recollection was
Steve P nails it. Many of these old-skool design ideas might fill a niche
within a niche within a niche. Given the previously mentioned issues with
freewheels, and not many upsides except low cost, the people still using them
are devoted antiquarians, those who spec dept store bikes, and those
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SunTour
On Monday, April 15, 2013 10:23:29 PM UTC-4, Lee Legrand wrote:
Is Sun XCD a different company than SR SUNTOUR?
https://stan-pun.squarespace.com/about/
http://www.srsuntour-cycling.com/SID=si2a13400691526f93776ec0bdf6d126/index.php
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On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 4:56:59 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
That assumes there's actually a market for straight-cut sprockets. Even
back in the 1970s they were actively searching for tooth profiles that
made shifting easier. Remember Shimano's wavy teeth? I doubt the total
From my own experience with 5 thru 10 shifting, all manual (didn't index
after circa 1993 or 4 until I got the 7 sp DA for the Ram) I would say that
the problems below come solely from excessively narrow spacing -- it, too
many cogs -- and even that, perhaps, due to using the wrong levers (levers
I would be alright with some nice choices in 7 speed cassettes and chains.
I have been using the IRD freewheels on my Rivy hubs without much to
complain about.
On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:35:04 AM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
wrote:
Steve P nails it. Many of these old-skool design
Here is what I would like to see them make. Cassette hub, 7 or 8 speed
WIDE ratio cassette, Bomb proof (literally) bar end index shifters with
friction option or disc brake levers (maybe brifters, crash proof though,
and sealed against crashing in a pumice dust and sand pile, don't ask) and
That's not the only, or even the worst, problem with freewheels. By
design, pedaling tightens a freewheel. On a tandem or on a bike ridden
by a very strong rider, they get screwed on so tight it's difficult if
not outright impossible to remove them. What's more, the tremendous
force needed
On Tue, 2013-04-16 at 10:11 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
I think, therefore, that if Shimano and others simply brought back 8
speed systems with friction options, we'd be where we need to be in
respect of drivetrains. No? I agree that new systems are not, from the
standpoint of both use and
On Tue, 2013-04-16 at 09:01 -0700, RJM wrote:
I would be alright with some nice choices in 7 speed cassettes and
chains.
Then you must be alright right now, because there ARE plenty of nice
choices in 7 speed cassettes, and also some nice 7/8 speed chains for
them. Note that the chains are
I've used both 15 and 16 t outer cogs by Miche. 7 speed DA on the Ram
starts with 14. 16 is the largest, but you can fudge anything as an outer
if you are willing to compromise on cassette position and # of cogs. My 14
t outer is a standard inner.
Friction shifting 9 on the Fargo now, with Silver
Would it work to put a bunch of singlespeed sprockets onto a cassette? Only
13 to 22t with Surly... http://surlybikes.com/parts/cassette_cog
That could give you a 9 speed corncob with tall teeth, mated to wide-spaced
rings, like 24, 34, 44. I'm the last person you should ask about
Clayton, you can use your bar end shifters and Dyna-Sys 10sp cassette if
you use a Shimano 9sp derailleur.
On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 11:28:33 AM UTC-5, clayton wrote:
Here is what I would like to see them make. Cassette hub, 7 or 8 speed
WIDE ratio cassette, Bomb proof (literally) bar end
I like the idea of a wide-range 7sp or 8sp cassette, like 12-36 or
something. Pair it with a mountain double crank. I'm thinking of my amazing
SRAM 2x10 kits, but with fewer cogs.
On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 11:28:33 AM UTC-5, clayton wrote:
Here is what I would like to see them make.
The Surly cog cassette was discussed at HC clubhouse earlier today. Surly
cogs retail for $25+ each...
On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 3:45:57 PM UTC-5, Philip Williamson wrote:
Would it work to put a bunch of singlespeed sprockets onto a cassette?
Only 13 to 22t with Surly...
Sounds like a 4-speed cassette, then. I bet the Jeff Jones cassette cost about
$150, though, and I think XTR cassettes cost so much I blacked out and can't
remember the price.
Philip
www.biketinker.com
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Y'know what I'd love to see?
Non-ramped rear sprockets. Just like on the old freewheels we used to get,
but set on a carrier so they would fit on current freehubs. Steel? Sure,
if that is easier, but aluminum is fine if the teeth were longer. 8
sprockets or even 9, so the size would be
The bearings spacing on most cassette hubs is no different from that of a
freewheel hub. With the exception of Shimano and Mavic and a few small
makers, all freehubs have the hub bearings under the flanges, more or less.
As long as the axle is properly designed, that is not a problem.
The
On Sat, 2013-04-13 at 17:32 -0700, Matthew J wrote:
Kind of afraid this would be the case, Jan. I have a private horde of
7 Suntour Winner Pros. Fortunately Winner Pro were so well made, and
now, thanks to a tip from Patrick, I found someone who is much more
adept than I rebuilding
Is Sun XCD a different company than SR SUNTOUR?
https://stan-pun.squarespace.com/about/
http://www.srsuntour-cycling.com/SID=si2a13400691526f93776ec0bdf6d126/index.php
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
On Sat, 2013-04-13 at 17:32 -0700, Matthew J wrote:
Thanks for bringing up those points, Jan - I'm not specifically against
freewheels. My experience was that I regularly bent axles on my old mtb
which had a freewheel and never had that problem with any freehubs. My
recollection was that the mtb (which was a six speed 1983 drivetrain) had
Rob,
That's a pretty good looking finish.
As he puts it “the market is too race-centric; carbon fiber, electric
shifting, full suspension, 11 speed, doesn’t really enhance the enjoyment
of cycling. In the 1970’s and 80’s we cycled to be closer to nature, for
the environment, for our
The Suntour special short cassette looks very promising. 120mm OLD, so with a
derailler adapter claw, clamp-on shifter, and clamp-on cable stop, you could
five-speederize your Rivendell customs... If the shifter was on your seatstay,
you'd keep the clean lines, and be able to re-fix the bike in
It would be nice if they brought back the SunTour S-1 rear derailleur.
This derailleur would be great for those folks who like to tour or do
randonneurring.
On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 3:04 AM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:
Rob,
That's a pretty good looking finish.
As he puts it “the
The gear on the seatpost seams like an awkward position to place a gear.
If it had any advantage, it would be on the type of bicycling that did not
require you to shift to much. I would think in riding, you would want a
gear somewhere near the riding position that you are in. Having it at the
Oh yes, a seat post or seatstay mounted shifter is awkward. You get the hang of
it, but the only reasonable(?) use case is for a longtime fixed gear rider who
rarely shifts, wants a simple option for removing all the gears, and would like
to keep the clutter of shifters, cables and gears out of
Looks the same as some Velo Orange and Compass Bike components.
On Saturday, April 13, 2013 12:39:55 AM UTC-4, stonehog wrote:
Forwarding from the Rando list. Interesting from the many Rivs with
Suntour components...
Brian Hanson
Seattle, Wa
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*From:* Jenny Oh
Definitely cool news.Their philosophy bodes well for the kinds of
components they will make, i.e. we cycled to be closer to nature, for the
environment, for our health... ”The large flange hubs look nice, and
it's cool that they have a photo of the Hunqapillar on the Homebase page
:)
“the market is too race-centric; carbon fiber, electric shifting, full
suspension, 11 speed, doesn’t really enhance the enjoyment of cycling.”
Amen to that. I don't sneer at racing bikes -- some of the bikes I'd love
to own are old road and track bikes from before the '80s, and I praise the
I like
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/aaP3030001.jpg
I was really happy to get this used TA Pro5 already with my half-steps and
escape (47-42-26) on ebay for $130. But if you look at what Bolder is
asking for NOS, this should be a no-brainer market for Suntour.
On Saturday, April 13, 2013 5:37:03 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote:
Welcome development especially so if quality approaches that of its
parent. If they bring back the Winner Pro freewheel I would take special
note. Wonderifthese are made inJapan or sub-contracted out.
Most of the classic
I love the look of those hubs.
Nice hunqapillar in the photos on that page. Really nice.
On Friday, April 12, 2013 11:39:55 PM UTC-5, stonehog wrote:
Forwarding from the Rando list. Interesting from the many Rivs with
Suntour components...
Brian Hanson
Seattle, Wa
Begin forwarded
Understandable.
I still think there is a market for quality 5 - 7 speed friction shifting
stuff. I know I would buy a couple of freewheels since I have two wheelsets
with Phil freewheel hubs.
On Saturday, April 13, 2013 10:17:47 AM UTC-5, Jan Heine wrote:
On Saturday, April 13, 2013
Very good to have another player in the game. I like more choices. I'm
not surprised that these are made in Taiwan, that seems like the center of
the bike component industry today. Many of the Grand Bois products are made
there including hubs.
I think it's a smart move to stay with standard
one day we'll look back and Taiwan-made components will be the good old days
On Saturday, April 13, 2013 10:44:30 AM UTC-5, Mike Schiller wrote:
Very good to have another player in the game. I like more choices. I'm
not surprised that these are made in Taiwan, that seems like the center of
Taiwan, like many places, has a wide variety of manufacturers. Some produce
wonderful quality, others focus more on price. You need to make parts where
the knowledge and machinery exists to make those parts. For example, I
cannot think of a single forged square-taper crank that has been made in
On Saturday, April 13, 2013 8:30:58 AM UTC-7, RJM wrote:
Understandable.
I still think there is a market for quality 5 - 7 speed friction shifting
stuff. I know I would buy a couple of freewheels since I have two wheelsets
with Phil freewheel hubs.
Agreed. Would love to see a quality
If it's spring, it must be time for the annual Suntour is coming back as
SunXCD announcement. I wish them well, but it seems like they've been
talking about this for a long time.
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.
On Friday, April 12, 2013 9:39:55 PM UTC-7, stonehog wrote:
Forwarding from the Rando
The hubs and some other bits are being brought to our shores through Merry
Sales, they are real, and I have held them. The finish is not super fancy,
bit not bad. I am looking forward to trying one out.
Rob
Ventura, Ca
On Saturday, April 13, 2013 1:21:25 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
If
A pretty good idea of the finish on the hubs:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/therubbishbin/8514301374/
Rob
On Saturday, April 13, 2013 1:55:28 PM UTC-7, rperks wrote:
The hubs and some other bits are being brought to our shores through Merry
Sales, they are real, and I have held them. The
Kind of afraid this would be the case, Jan. I have a private horde of 7
Suntour Winner Pros. Fortunately Winner Pro were so well made, and now,
thanks to a tip from Patrick, I found someone who is much more adept than I
rebuilding freewheels, mine should outlive me.
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