Great thread.
Number one that has worked for me is friction shifting. I always hated
index shifting, always thought it temperamental and going out of adjustment
at just the wrong time. I love the simplicity of friction shifting and the
silver shifters work great in all forms I have tried
: Which RBW Velosophies have worked for you? Which haven't?
What works for me:
1. Grant and Co.'s business ethics. I like that he employs 15 folks
honestly and tries to give back to good causes. He tries to educate in areas
we all may need some help in (food/exercise), and he doesn't fit
explicitly.
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What works for me:
1. Grant
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also for lively, light wheels are more important than light frames. 5 pounds
on your bike frame is no different
I have to agree with this. Driving a car, it is as much the apparent
motion that a blinking light produces that makes me notice a cyclist as
as the wan glow of underpowered and badly aligned $8 lights.
As to better quality steady rear lights: I can't view my bike from the rear
when I'm riding it:
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also for lively, light wheels are more important than light frames. 5
pounds on your bike frame
+1 for this one. Carrying it further, to what I consider the essence of
moral marketing: Rivendell sells what its owner thinks is good stuff. This
means that you are never trying to put on over on the customer. I don't
think Riv sells anything just because people are eager to buy it.
Long ago I
I think lights are great - much more important for safety than anything
else.
My hierarchy, based on zero science is:
1. High quality dynamo driven lights on all the time - daytime running
lights during the day, focused Euro-style beam at night. Steady,
non-blinking.
2. Blinking
I'd bump good reflectors, like Riv's triangles, up at least to par with
blinkies. In a car's headlights, they are *bright*!
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Edwin W dweenda...@hotmail.com wrote:
I think lights are great - much more important for safety than anything
else.
My hierarchy, based
Apparently the #1 thing that gives recognition of a cyclist is the up
down motion of the pedals. That's why I think the ankle
band--especially Riv's wide band is the best. It never runs out of
batteries. That combined with a reflective vest is something I try to
never ride without in the
I was riding an X0-1 east on Wellington Crescent. I think you were going to
a race
On Monday, December 2, 2013 9:39:48 AM UTC-6, Mark Reimer wrote:
Hmm, yes I do own one. When did we meet, and were you riding a Riv? Sorry,
I'm always terrible with names/faces.
On Monday, December 2, 2013
Wow! After all my life in either clips or cleats, childhood excepted, I've
got an order in for Thin Gripsters. They'll be here Thurs., install and
begin a new era on my bike(s). Already changed to: higher bars, thicker
tires, racks and fenders, and a Brooks. Oh, it's a Sam!
On Tuesday,
Plus on the GB Cypress. Have had them on over 8 months; street and dirt,
even a little gravel. *Really nice!*
On Saturday, November 23, 2013 11:40:55 AM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:
On 11/23/2013 09:57 AM, Ron Mc wrote:
Tried Jack Browns on my daughter's load-hauler, and went back to 28mm
Agree with you there. I switched to Redline BMX pedals a few years back
but the VP pedals are a big improvement on the cheap BMX pedals.
Still have BMX pedals on my Paul Taylor but the VP pedals are definitely a
cut above.
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Kellie Stapleton
What works for me:
1. Grant and Co.'s business ethics. I like that he employs 15 folks
honestly and tries to give back to good causes. He tries to educate in
areas we all may need some help in (food/exercise), and he doesn't fit in
the maximize efficiency and shareholder value
I believe we might have this summer. Don't you own a Cervelo?
On Friday, November 22, 2013 9:29:16 AM UTC-6, Mark Reimer wrote:
Ryan 'from Winnipeg'? Had no idea there were more Winnipeggers on this
board, and an owner of multiple Riv's and an XO-1 to boot!? Can only assume
we've ridden
Hmm, yes I do own one. When did we meet, and were you riding a Riv? Sorry,
I'm always terrible with names/faces.
On Monday, December 2, 2013 9:17:35 AM UTC-6, Ryan wrote:
I believe we might have this summer. Don't you own a Cervelo?
On Friday, November 22, 2013 9:29:16 AM UTC-6, Mark Reimer
I was trying to remember how I stumbled upon RBW... and it was the
moustache bars! For some crazy reason, I put 'em on an old REI XR steel
cross bike in the mid 90's and I was hooked. It must have been from that
order (phone? mail?) that I got a catalogue, and started buying Pine Tar
soap and
*Things that changed my thinking:*
+1 on clothing... No longer get dressed up just to ride. BTW spandex
make awful rags... gotta figure out how to repurpose that material...
Pine tar soap... GREAT STUFF. Vaguely recalled it from ancient times (high
school art class), but now I use it all the
Everyone has posted GREAT RBW velosophies, and I love most of them, and
won't waste space repeating
Except for the wonderful attitude of JUST RIDE what you got, wherever you
are, in whatever clothes are in your closet.
I love that!
And I LOVE what I've learned from GP!
but...
What I will
I don't get the 10/11 speed negativity being synonymous with Riv culture.
I see the embrace of older 7/8/9 speed gear being mostly practical as in,
it costs less and does the job, and also in most cases it's compatible with
existing components.
But if I was starting from scratch and the
I would like to have an old Schwinn like that! Plus a 66 is right up my
alley. However, I think my wife would disown me if I brought home any more
bikes ;)
On Nov 22, 2013 8:57 PM, Jim jamesfek...@gmail.com wrote:
I feel a little like Rip Van Winkle in this conversation, as I purchased
my
Ryan 'from Winnipeg'? Had no idea there were more Winnipeggers on this
board, and an owner of multiple Riv's and an XO-1 to boot!? Can only assume
we've ridden past each other a few times at some point.
For me - larger tires absolutely. Went from 23's to 33 Jack Browns, what a
revelation.
Leather tape all the way...
Don't hang me on this one - I don't have a place for big tires. If I lived
some place with good single track riding, I would be completely different
about it. But off-road here is blocky limestone and caliche clay that you
don't even want on your bike (we pick up
Yes:
Steel
Wool
Wide tires / 650b
Racks
Saddlebags
Function
New lower end over vintage high end
MUSA as an ethos
No:
Drop bars above saddle
Excessive saddle setback
Friction over index
Schwalbe tires
-Justin
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On 11/23/2013 09:57 AM, Ron Mc wrote:
Tried Jack Browns on my daughter's load-hauler, and went back to 28mm
Paselas, which have notably lower rolling resistance. I pretty much
ride 28mm on all my bikes, give or take a mm
Before concluding the problem in this case was the width of the JB, you
the Bullwinkle show is here
On Saturday, November 23, 2013 1:40:55 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote:
On 11/23/2013 09:57 AM, Ron Mc wrote:
Tried Jack Browns on my daughter's load-hauler, and went back to 28mm
Paselas, which have notably lower rolling resistance. I pretty much
ride 28mm
After a couple of soggy commutes this week, I have only one thing to say .
. .
SPLATS!
Bryan
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If I might ask, we're those jack browns blue or green?
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Clickstick is a nice option if you want a kickstand but not often enough to
install one...
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On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote:
double kickstand with a loaded bike
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Clickstick is a nice option if you want a kickstand
I feel a little like Rip Van Winkle in this conversation, as I purchased
my first adult bike in 1972 with the money I earned pumping gas. It was
a fillet brazed Schwinn Super Sport, 66cm, classic road frame. I lusted
after a lugged Paramount, but alas, didn't make quite enough scratch that
My wife just purchased one of these ponchos. They're designed in Portland
and made in Vietnam if I'm not mistaken. We purchased one direct from the
designer and she says her and her husband cycle in them all the time. She
said she would have had them made locally but the price would have been
Very nice. Don't recall seeing this before. Thanks
On Thursday, November 21, 2013 11:57:27 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote:
I've actually posted this photo a lot...
You should post a picture of that old Raleigh...then maybe I'll post a
picture of my soewhat rivved PX-10
On Thursday, November 21, 2013 10:59:33 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote:
Baggy pants, lightweight merino wool tops and undies (forget cotton)
Brooks saddle and way that works as a system with
Has anyone mentioned Tiagra stoves yet? Heating a (disgusting) can of hash this
summer at 5000' for me and my 12 year old son was too cool for words.
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Rivendell reminded me how beautiful lugged frames can be.
That a nice bike doesn't have to have dropped bars.
That you don't have to wear bike specific clothes.
Toe clips and straps are not needed.
Kick stands can be very useful.
What hasn't and will never work for me, carrying anything behind
Baggy pants, lightweight merino wool tops and undies (forget cotton)
Brooks saddle and way that works as a system with baggy pants
The whole semi-upright riding system with fit, platform pedals and, in my
case, moustache cockpit with Technomic stem and barcons (my old Zeus
shifters are so cool
I've actually posted this photo a lot...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/aP4140012.jpg
On Thursday, November 21, 2013 11:14:50 AM UTC-6, Ryan wrote:
You should post a picture of that old Raleigh...then maybe I'll post a
picture of my soewhat rivved PX-10
On
double kickstand with a loaded bike
On Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:23:19 AM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote:
If you go on a long enough bike tour, you end up in a lot of places
where there aren't any trees. The first time I rode across the US, I
didn't have a kickstand on my bike, and my riding
Trangia stoves? They are great wee stoves. Though we have two burners, I
prefer my Kelly Kettle (no fuel to carry), when I take a stove at all
because it's an easy way to grill steak.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Thursday, November 21, 2013 11:10:04 AM UTC-7, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:
Has anyone
+1 to all your worked items and I'd move the higher handlebars to
worked also. In the not for me category is bells and ponchos. Bells
ting and ding from even slight jounces and that's not great on my brain.
Ponchos were not made for wilderness riding and are fiddly to wear.
To works category
I'm gonna mention the Kool Aid, but to collect you'll have to come to the
Five Islands Brewery here n Wollongong, Australia. First in best dressed
and make mine an Apocalypso.
Now that I've got that off my chest, I agree with most of your observations
however:-
For me, whipping with
I'm gonna mention the Kool Aid, but to collect you'll have to come to the
Five Islands Brewery here n Wollongong, Australia
Your shout? I reckon I can be there by smoko.
Jeff Hagedorn
Warragul, VIC Australia
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I'll join the amen chorus for platform pedals (no more low-speed falls at
the end of a long ride!), wider tires (given Massachusetts roads, every
ride is mixed-terrain), and fenders (except when I remove them to fit even
wider tires).
rod
On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 12:05:09 AM UTC-5,
Great question
Yes
Consistent adherence to versatility,durability and quality. Beautifully
crafted,rugged frames that ride wonderfully and have a classic appeal
Wider tires are really good
Fenders. They make riding in rain so much better. Everyone should have at
least 1 fendered bike
Bigger tires, platform pedals, racks, saddle bags, higher bars, bike
camping and the overall idea of a country bike.
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On 11/20/13, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:
Bigger tires, platform pedals, racks, saddle bags, higher bars, bike
camping and the overall idea of a country bike.
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Pretty much agree with the general thoughts expressed here so far, although
the only Rivendell I have is a Rambouillet with Jack Browns and a couple
small bags front and rear, so more towards the road end than some of
the 4X4-type Rivs. Man, I enjoy that bike.
In addition to the classic
YAY - Brooks, friction shifting, 8-speed, 650b (though with Hetres),
36-spoke wheels, Noodles, Nitto, racks, saddlebags, wide tires, fenders,
lights, no electronic gadgets
NAY - high bars, bomb-proof tires, kickstands,
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This is where I miss clipless pedals the most. Now I fumble more often to
get the pedal in a good starting position, with clipless it was pretty
automatic since my foot was stuck to it :p.
On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 9:05:09 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote:
*9. Platform pedals/ditching the
I think I was attracted to Rivendell because they advocated much of what I
was already doing. The big differences that work for me:
1) Grant got me back on steel. I started on steel in 1995 (plus 38mm
tires and high handlebars) and upgraded to aluminum in 2007. Grant got
me to comparing
Wide tires, wool, and platform pedals are the biggest for me. On the not
working so well side albatross bars, and bars well above saddle height.
On Nov 20, 2013 4:28 PM, Chris Lampe 2 clampe9...@yahoo.com wrote:
I think I was attracted to Rivendell because they advocated much of what I
was
Like some others, was gravitating back towards this style when I found
Rivendell. Before my time off the bike, my riding was done on a mid 1980's
mountain bike with fenders, flat pedals, upright bars, Brooks saddle and
fat(ish) tires.
What I've picked up -
1 - wool. Was usually a cotton and/or
I wear a lot of wool, when I can. But much of the year, in Phoenix, cotton
is a performance fabric for me. Loose, light cotton.
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Eric Platt epericmpl...@gmail.com wrote:
Like some others, was gravitating back towards this style when I found
Rivendell. Before
I feel nekkid without my hardhat. Not that Rivendell Bicycle Works opposes
hardhats. Just that they might be optional, but I don't want to start
anything, honest.
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Bill Gibson bill.bgib...@gmail.com wrote:
I wear a lot of wool, when I can. But much of the year,
I arrived at Rivendell after owning a Trek Navigator comfort bike, a
Batavus Fryslan honest-to-goodness Dutch bike, and a Norco City Glide bike,
so many of the Rivendell velosophies were familiar to me. The ones that
worked:
1. *Fat tires* - I've always ridden on fat tires, in a mostly
Anytime you pedal from Warragul to Wollongong, there'll be a line of beers
on the counter at the Five islands because you're gonna need 'em. Cheers
On Wednesday, 20 November 2013 23:17:10 UTC+11, sameness wrote:
I'm gonna mention the Kool Aid, but to collect you'll have to come to the
I'm with you all the way except for ponchos, twine, and kickstands. I
can't remember once in my whole life where I wished I'd had a kickstand.
Maybe if I lived where there weren't any trees?
Rob Markwardt
in the forest of WA
On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 9:05:09 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote:
It's a lot of fun to mount panniers on the tree side of a tree, dude.
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:21 PM, rob markwardt robmar...@hotmail.comwrote:
I'm with you all the way except for ponchos, twine, and kickstands. I
can't remember once in my whole life where I wished I'd had a kickstand.
Glad you are having a good time. Later dude.
On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 10:23:56 PM UTC-8, Christopher Chen wrote:
It's a lot of fun to mount panniers on the tree side of a tree, dude.
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:21 PM, rob markwardt
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I'm with
If you go on a long enough bike tour, you end up in a lot of places
where there aren't any trees. The first time I rode across the US, I
didn't have a kickstand on my bike, and my riding partner had one.
Those hundreds of miles across the prairies, where Hans could just
leave his bike on the
Makings of a good thread, Michael!
First one to mention Kool-Aid owes the board a beer.
*YES*
1. Swept-back handlebars: Basically, the Albatross, which I had decided
upon first glance were just klunkier Moustache bars, but have since come to
find have more usable hand positions (for me) than
Ditching the Speedplay pedals: After a near-crash experience with click ins
during a muddy two-day charity ride I switched to VP Thin Gripster pedals
and I've never looked back. So nice to be able to jump on the bike for a
ride with my kid without getting kit'd up. And I'm way more comfy on the
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