You know when you register an account with Ebay, Fed Ex, UPS or even the
USPS . . . .and you ship something by making and paying for the label
online , the price you are paying is an ESTIMATE only ! It is by no means
, set . The final price is not determined until it is delivered . The
All is milk and honey just to get us to release our credit card number.
Then
On Friday, August 21, 2015, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote:
Yep . . . . if I choose to ship something these days , it's only if
it's a real joy to do so . Otherwise , well . .. .what otherwise ? !
Be
The root of suffering is craving...
~Hugh
“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving.” ― Albert Einstein
http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Curtis McKenzie cmcy...@gmail.com wrote:
All is milk and honey just to get us to
Yep . . . . if I choose to ship something these days , it's only
if it's a real joy to do so . Otherwise , well . .. .what otherwise ?
!
Be only what you really love to see
On Friday, August 21, 2015 at 2:32:19 PM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote:
I
I too found the same in regards to shipping. I now just go to my local USPS
where I get an accurate cost. Apparently, UPS FedEx have add on fees that
they don't add on when you calculate shipping cost through their online
system. I called both carriers and the fee's were out of delivery area??
Yep . . . . if I choose to ship something these days , it's only if
it's a real joy to do so . Otherwise , well . .. .what otherwise ? !
Be only what you really love to see
On Friday, August 21, 2015 at 2:32:19 PM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote:
My
Does the US have an equivalent of Canada's Interac EMT? It's an inter-bank
money transfer using email.
I've asked this before on similar threads but don't recall what the answer
was.
http://www.interac.ca/en/interac-etransfer/etransfer-detail
It works very well - much preferable to PP if you
Doug,
It has me really looking at all online platforms, what I've noticed is that
they all have extensive user agreements (written obviously by lawyers) that
remove them from having any liability whatsoever. You can't use a site
unless you sign the user agreement. In this whole mess I accept that
Until very recently PayPal was *owned* by eBay. FWIW...
Curious what the credit card company's reason was, I guess PayPal did not
tell you that? Seems like it would almost be better to *not* use PayPal
and get some other credit card clearing service that gave you more of a
voice in the process.
I agree with you Hugh, I have had very good experiences here for the most
part. One time it took inordinately long to get a frame but it did show up
eventually.
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 5:41 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:
Jim,
Thanks.
I don't plan on selling that often. For
Well, if you are a member of a warehouse club like Costco or Sams there are
things like this:
https://www.costcopaymentprocessing.com/
I've never seriously looked into other services besides Paypal but your
tale of woe has me thinking about it. 1.38% + 19c per transaction is less
than PayPal's
Jim,
Thanks.
I don't plan on selling that often. For me a check will do just fine. If
that's a hassle for someone then they can pass on buying from me. Here on
out I'm simplifying and reducing my liability. I'm a super honest guy, but
I've been burned one too many times. Selling on this
Hi Jim,
On Aug 19, 2015 2:42 PM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote:
Until very recently PayPal was *owned* by eBay. FWIW...
I was aware of that change.
Curious what the credit card company's reason was, I guess PayPal did not
tell you that?
That's right, I was told only that the
As an FYI it's actually untrue that a postal money order has any extra
protection. I had someone scam me years back. I paid for the item with a
USPS money order under the assumption that anything that happened would be
mail fraud. They never sent the item so I contacted the USPS and they
told
PayPal claiming it's a hazard of doing business
So much for the supposed security of electronic payment systems. Hugh,
your tale is instructive for us all. When I see all the levels / parties /
etc involved in this transaction, I can see why it's attractive to
scammers. I'm with you on
Funny postal service money order story: I've had a few of those sent to
me; maybe people who don't have checking accounts? Anyway, my local
mini-post office is in the back of another business, and they can't cash
USPS money orders. No biggie, the big post office is a 10 minute bike
ride
Damn...
On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:
Sure I'd accept that method of payment.
~Hugh
“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.”
― Albert Einstein
http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
On Sat, Aug 15, 2015
Another FWIW: A USPS Postal Money Order sent by ordinary USPS snailmail takes a
little longer but provides some degree of protection coverage with mail fraud
laws.
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Sure I'd accept that method of payment.
~Hugh
“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving.” ― Albert Einstein
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On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Bill webe...@gmail.com wrote:
Another FWIW: A USPS Postal Money Order sent by
Hi Bill,
Like others I've bought many items from this group. I haven't sold too much
though. My experiences have all been top notch. With that said I will like
the Jim our moderator caution you that you make transactions at your own
risk. This is a searchable forum and there is very little
FWIW and not about sale procedure : It's a complete
turn-away-from-the-sale for me to buy or sell parts that are not made at
least relatively clean . At least a good wipe or wash of dirt and grease .
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I generally use paypal to pay for and accept payments from stuff I sold.
The good thing is that I can also take credit cards by being a
verified paypal business vendor and I generally just eat whatever fee that
is associated with that. I'm not huge on adding extra fees on top of a
selling
Thanks, for all the suggestions. Still getting used to using the group and
thoroughly enjoying all the Rivendell wisdom.
On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 4:29:14 PM UTC-4, Bill Ruprecht wrote:
Hi,
I am new to this group and am thinking of buying and selling some Riv
bikes in the near future.
I buy here from folks I know because they sell the things I want to buy,
usually at great prices. I like giving these people my money because my money
goes to their next project which almost always benefits me in some way.
I sell here to folks I know because my parts go to their next project
Now now... We rationalizers think of it as a virtuous circle :-)
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Thomas Lynn Skean
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Now now... We rationalizers think of it as a virtuous circle :-)
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As a fairly new member to the list (about a year), I have bought one item
and sold a couple others. The parts I sold were usually in response to
someone's open request for a particular thing that I happened to have.
That mutual need, a list member's need to find it and mine to pass it on,
As a buyer on this and the iBob list, I put a fair amount of faith in the
seller on the other side of the transaction to deliver, and I've yet to be
disappointed. For small transactions, I reason that I may be sending money
off into the ether, and it would not destroy me financially to lose money,
Bill,
This is an open group accessible to (almost) anyone, so of course you must
be careful, there is no official help from the group if something goes bad
so your best defense is to be on alert.
In general most of the buying and selling is between established members so
it's pretty safe.
Hi Bill -
A lot of us on this list have known one another since the days of usenet.
I can think of at least a dozen people who I'd just send something to and
know I'd get a check back from them.
By the same token, this is also a publicly searchable group, and there is a
possibility that
I've bought and sold dozens of things here, including expensive frames.
Never had a bad transaction; never even occurred to me it was possible. Of
course that time could come someday, but I would be very surprised.
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.
On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 1:50:23 PM UTC-7, Chris
So,
I'm somewhat new, and I've probably bought enough stuff off the list to build a
couple bikes. I've also hooked up a friend with a complete bike/large purchase.
99% of the transactions were smooth. Had one bad one, from a pretty consistent
contributing member (who has since disappeared).
Keep in mind we buy and wear wool pirate shirts and skivvies. Grin.
Ditto to my Patrick twin and Minh. It doesn't take long to suss out whose a
regular, and at least on the web interface you can click the additional
options for a post and see all posts made by a member so you get to know
them
Bill,
What the others have said, plus.I have bought and sold a fair amount of
stuff both here and as a BOB. When I sold a Riv frameset I had the money
(four digits worth) in hand before I shipped. On the other stuff I just
ship and wait for payment. I have had zero problems. YMMV.
Chris
It's a vicious circle: We just buy, sell, and re-purchase each other's
stuff here!
On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 4:25 PM, David Banzer daban...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd add that this is a very honest and trusting group. I've sold items
before I had time to upload photos of actual items, and folks
I'd add that this is a very honest and trusting group. I've sold items
before I had time to upload photos of actual items, and folks trusted my
description and bought without photos. On my end, I try and be as
descriptive and honest as I can when selling.
And I've trusted folks as well and
On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 2:00:08 PM UTC-7, drew wrote:
So,
I'm somewhat new, and I've probably bought enough stuff off the list to
build a couple bikes. I've also hooked up a friend with a complete
bike/large purchase. 99% of the transactions were smooth. Had one bad one,
from a
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