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Hey Folks - See what happens when I take a few days off? One inciting comment and we're off to the races again. I'm going to stick a fork in this thread and lock it. Clearly, we all have a lot of steam to let off. The weather is nice. Remember to ride. - Jim / admin -- You received

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I think I speak for all Californians when I say..dude, like, whatever OMG! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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That blahg post is spot-on except for this divisive description: "we accentless Northern Californians" Come on! As a native of New York City, a place that's been part of the USA far longer than Northern California, I know that our voices represent the true accentless. Whaddya gonna do about

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Me too. And I love bicycles -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

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I like to ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

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I was proud to - drive through Santa Rosa - for a few years. Unfortunately it was because I lived in very conservative Lake County. Bad plan! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

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I was proud to call Santa Rosa home for a few years - even prouder now! On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 10:10:08 PM UTC-6, Philip Williamson wrote: > > It’s a sin for YOU to be gay. > I can be gay and married to a man all day long and live a a happy > non-murdered non-shamed non-whatever life

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Philip- Are you coming Sunday? If so I’m going to give you a big old hug. -Justin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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It’s a sin for YOU to be gay. I can be gay and married to a man all day long and live a a happy non-murdered non-shamed non-whatever life because my happiness does not depend on you or your asinine god. Loki and Ganesh are equally irrelevant to me. You are a Pharisee. Your power does not come

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“The only thing I want more than these handlebars is to have children separated from their parents so everyone knows that this a terrible place and they should never come here!” seems like a sign of mental instability. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

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Can you imagine cancelling a bike parts order because someone protested children in camps? I cannot imagine being the person who would do this. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

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We are united, independent, and dependent. I love Patrick, who isn't gay, as much as I love my brother-in-law who is. I feel bad for my role in the bickering, but not for saying what I said. I'm sad that good people are growling over it, but happy to see so many nice comments, too. Everybody's got

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That Bishop Sheen quote is hilarious! Yea, no one REALLY hates the Catholic Church. Why would they? Wait, what have they been hiding/enabling for decades? Who have they been paying legal fees to defend? And what’s this about Magdalene Laundries? What did Pious XII Do in the 1930’s? Wait, they

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John, I replied to you off group, but I know that sometimes fails, so wanted to give you a heads up here. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

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Joe will you be offering patches for your new fan club? As a group, I think we've handled this conversation rather well considering most online decorum. I'm grateful that the thread was not shut down. Happy 4th everyone. Alex Wirth Rochester, NY -- You received this message because you are

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One of my favorite internet essayists, John Michael Greer, addressed what, to me, is the big issue running through this thread--how to leave some slack for other people's beliefs, opinions, lifestyles, world view, what have you--in his weekly post. I think it's worth a read by those

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I'm happy I am part of this independent group, on an Independence Day, and witness to the struggle for freedom, in our persons, and in society, even among ourselves. There will be deep disagreements. Never assume you are not in a bubble, and that someone else is. Ride On! Bill Gibson Tempe,

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Dear Eamon, Seriously? You’re are missing my point. However, I’ll explain it as an example. Why is “For blacks, women, and gays, there were no 'good old days” controversial? Two things. First, on the face of it, it dismisses myriad success and contributions and lives of blacks and women

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Damn - where's the old Napster when you need it? On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 7:24:38 PM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Btw, Wall Of Text is my new band's name. The new Wall Of Text album, Grins > & Bollocks, out now. Steal it wherever digital files are stolen. -- You received this message

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I have resisted wading into this morass thus far but can no longer do so. Patrick: If 1. Tolerance for gender identities which don't match your own, 2. Supporting women's rights to choose what happens to their own bodies, & 3. Social programs for those less

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Btw, Wall Of Text is my new band's name. The new Wall Of Text album, Grins & Bollocks, out now. Steal it wherever digital files are stolen. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

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Patrick, if you find the statement "For blacks, women, and gays, there were no 'good old days." controversial or offensive, I respectfully ask that you consider whether you need to recalibrate YOUR controversy sensor. Eamon Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

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Dear Steve, All I said is these topics are controversial, and you lambast me with vitriol. Your response proves my assertion that these are controversial. Thank you for (inadvertantly) supporting my position that they are controversial. Sardonic grin. The “nothing controversial here” quote is

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WALLS OF TEXT FOR THE WIN! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email

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Sigh, it is only this thread, that has gone off the bike tires and into politics. There are lots of other threads. If you *support* the current Republican party, no matter how you paint your moral compass, you are still complicit. Morality is not flexible. There are no grey areas. I tire of

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If I get the last spot on the committe and can't make it to a meeting, Phillip gets my spot. If Phillip and I are running against one another, I'd vote for Phillip. On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 1:57 PM, Philip Williamson < philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote: > I’d like to be on the monetary committee.

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On 07/04/2018 05:37 PM, Ryan Merrill wrote: Quite frankly, I have to question someone's morality if they still support Trump and his policies. I personally know a lot of republicans who do not support him anymore. From the Washington Post today

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>From Grant’s blagh: “Nothing in here is controversial” Oxford Dictionary defines “Controversial” as: likely to give rise to public disagreement Grant, there are at least three obvious controversial topics in your Blagh: 1) gays/LTBGQ/Gender/Marriage/Identity; 2) reproductive

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Thanks to Joe for doing the heavy lifting on this thread. And thanks, again, to Grant for being smart, ethical, and reasonable. It's not political to understand, point out, and act on the real effects of inequality in our country. Also, happy to order a bunch of stuff today in support of Grant

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Quite frankly, I have to question someone's morality if they still support Trump and his policies. I personally know a lot of republicans who do not support him anymore. On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 12:57:23 PM UTC-5, Chris Birkenmaier wrote: > > Clayton, you asked that no one respond but

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I’d like to be on the monetary committee. I just sold my dad’s coin trove (6.2 kg of pocket change from before 1965). I kept a handful of Mercury Dimes, a couple different Liberty silver dollars, and a Buffalo Nickel. Man, that was good money! Not sure if I’m in favor of non-US nationals on our

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Maybe Grant is too modest to suggest the obvious, but I'm not: A Hunqapillar head badge rewicked into a coin or center oval portion on paper currency. How could anyone not agree on that? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

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Thank you, Grant, for the image of a coin with Pooh's butt on the obverse. This is a genuinely optimistic vision for an American future. Everybody read the new Blahg post, and reconvene. Have a Safe and Sane Fourth of July, y'all. rod On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 2:31:54 PM UTC-4, Grant @

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On 07/04/2018 06:27 AM, Richard wrote: IMHO, not that anyone is asking, Grant should separate his politics from his business. Though you would never know it from this google group, not all purchasers of Rivendell bikes, myself included, share his political leanings. Older consumers tend

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There's a new BLAHG up, and it'll be up thru the weekend. On the surface it may seem to be adding fuel to the fire, etc., but if you wade thru the whole thing (as I have!), I don't think you'll find too much controversy in it. Grant "Possibly Incredibly Naive" Petersen On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at

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My best friend is a Republican. I don't traffic in "all members of a particular party are bad" BS, I object to THIS policy from THIS president..who isn't even a real Republican. He was a liberal Democrat 15-20 years ago, and would have stayed there if he could've found a foothold. But Putin and

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Clayton, you asked that no one respond but your opening made me comment. I am sorry for the past circumstances of your life. As a mother myself I can only feel compassion for children and those that had difficult childhoods I feel the need to draw the line at painting all Republicans as evil

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Well, I’m starting to hate everyone who keeps posting. including myself now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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"With people like you Joe I'm surprised anyone stays..." People love me, man..it's like a freakin' Joe Bernard Fan Club around here. Deal with it! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

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What the hell is wrong with posting on an open thread? If no one was suppose to post, why wasn't the thread closed? And who the hell are you Joe Bernard to tell me I can't post? I don't visit this group much, but so what? With people like you Joe I'm surprised anyone stays... Patrick, your

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Patrick, Thank you for the thoughtful response. I definitely disagree with several of your opinions but hearing your point of view is important. We can’t all just sit in our echo chamber and need more civil discourse in our society and thoughtful debate. I hope the thread or the tone of this

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"Very thoughtful and well written post Deacon." It's Patrick; deacon is the thing Patrick does at church. You showed up here a week late to troll a dead thread and don't even know who Deacon Patrick is. Also, you don't like Rivendells anymore and won't shop there, but you have business advice

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Just give it up Richard , and everyone else "trying" to get their little "last jab" in because "an ending" is not the intent, a continuance of the back-and-forth "fight against" is a never ending accusing of the other by excusing oneself for throwing the "last jab". It's really

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Just one more post.. I can't help myselflike the little kid trying to get the last word in:) Very thoughtful and well written post Deacon. Please continue to speak your mind. I'm in agreement with you on the need to protect the unborn. With recent events unfolding, I feel we're going

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Everyone stop posting to this stupid thread and we all win. Brynnar Radical f**king lefty Indy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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Patrick Moore - are you saying H.L. Mencken is a positive force? Surely there are intelligent writers who weren't racist and anti-Semitic. I whole-heartedly support Grant putting his opinion our there (not just because I agree with it). At the same time, this whole thread has got me bummed

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I can tolerate some religious people. Philip Santa Rosa, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

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Thank you, Rich, I developed the film at home, but scanned the negative to make a JPG. Been taking a darkroom class at the local JC, but we're on a break, so no printing again til next week. Looking at old enlargers on Craigslist. Inch by inch. Thanks, again. John in Portland, Ore.

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brakeless fixed gears on city streets! Clayton Scott SF, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

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No way! If you really want a "religious war" then it's got to be *clinchers versus tubulars?!* Good Luck! Brewster On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 2:01:32 PM UTC-7, Rod Holland wrote: > > Helmets next? > > rod > > On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 4:51:49 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: >> >> Friction

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Nice tones John. Did you make the print? I’m impressed you’re developing your own film. It brings back good memories. I appreciate a well made b print. Back in the day I used 35mm PlusX, TriX, PanatomicX. Also 4x5 and 8x10 SuperXX sheet film. It was a passion. Best regards, Rich Sent from

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Ooh ooh ooh, can we do vegetarians vs. flesh-eaters next? Puuuhlease? That one's my super-fav! :-S KJ On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 1:28:44 PM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote: > > As a group made up of individuals, can we all just agree to let this > thread die? If you just HAVE to post one

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Helmets next? rod On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 4:51:49 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Friction shifting sucks! Ok it doesn't really suck, but my old man ears > can't hear when I'm between shifts anymore. Clickety clack! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

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Friction shifting sucks! Ok it doesn't really suck, but my old man ears can't hear when I'm between shifts anymore. Clickety clack! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

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I truly believe that most bike people prefer, when gazing at their bike(s), they prefer to gaze more on the bike's right side than its left side. On 7/3/18 4:31 PM, Justin, Oakland wrote: Uh. I like steel bikes. Controversially yours and somewhat confused how we got here, Justin, thread

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Uh. I like steel bikes. Controversially yours and somewhat confused how we got here, Justin, thread starter On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 1:28:44 PM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote: > > As a group made up of individuals, can we all just agree to let this > thread die? If you just HAVE to post one

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As a group made up of individuals, can we all just agree to let this thread die? If you just HAVE to post one more time I guess that’s ok but please (pretty, pretty please) just once more. And bonus points if you can make it as non-divisive as possible. I’ll start. Chris -- You received

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Steve mentioned a moderator stepping in. Doesn’t seem like that is going to happen. Since there has only been polite discussion with no name calling in this thread.., -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

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My disagreement is with government abduction of children. Period. Bringing abortion into what was a dead discussion until some asshole revived it is severely out of line. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

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What do we want this group to be? Grant laments having to edit himself too much, yet that is exactly what those here who disagree with “lefties” are often asked to silently do. I’m not sure the “lefties,” as Grant self-described, realize how much of the lefty echo chamber gets unwittingly

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I second the let's not let this one become one of those ones (and of course, Just Riding)... I don't want "Grant's Blahg" to become the thing that people read to get riled, but I also don't want to have to edit myself too much. I'm a lefty, and that won't always come across strongly because most

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I like a little extra grain in a lot of street and festival shots but find HP5 a bit flat; I think Delta 400 helps with that. Frankly, I'm more of a TriX guy myself. I've been shooting a ton of Portra 400 out of a few Pentax K2 cameras lately. On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 9:50:03 AM UTC-5,

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Wow. I guess I’d rather know than not know but wow. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

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The evidence is only apparent to you. Nice work shifting the topic to something you DO want to talk about, after decrying the off-topic-ness of the on-topic discussion. To reiterate my own thoughts: Hey, thanks Grant, for speaking up for decency and morality. It is unconscionable for us as a

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Man, would you quit trolling this thread and don’t speak for the American people. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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Protecting the human rights of invisible and powerless people is a huge challenge and oddly threatens a lot of people, as evidenced throughout this thread. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

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This thing was done June 24th, which was shortly after the stupid insane policy was rescinded. But troll. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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It is long past time for the moderator to have stepped in, in my opinion. On 07/03/2018 02:02 PM, sameness wrote: Dear all, please please please don't let /this/ forum become one of /those/ forums. Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA -- Steve Palincsar Alexandria, Virginia USA -- You

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Uhh, let's not do abortion here, kids. It's not even remotely related to the Blahg topic, and it's time to go ride our bikes. JUST RIDE. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

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So "abortion?" Consider supporting women's health services and reproductive education worldwide. Seems like scope creep on this thread, and I feel the backhanded shot was unnecessary. Furthermore, many many many people are very exercised about this issue. Philip Santa Rosa, CA On Tuesday,

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Philip asked, “Do you have examples of Americans in general being PRO removing some other kinds of children by force from their mothers?” Sadly, plenty of examples. Millions per year, worldwide. The people in support of this practice do not yet recognize them as human, so no human rights. It

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Dear all, please please please don't let *this* forum become one of *those* forums. Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

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Grins and bollocks. Which would be the name of my first album if I made an album. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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Dave, I think the criticism that I failed to acknowledge something in anything I wrote could always be asserted and defended, if not particularly helpful. Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

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This administraion is breaking laws about asylum, and damaging lives in their breaking of laws. I'm saying that when the government breaks laws that apply to it, that causes grave problems in all of our society -- citizens, immigrants, asylum seekers, and the children, grandchildren and other

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It actually does look more like TMax than HP5. :) Eamon On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 7:50:03 AM UTC-7, John A. Bennett wrote: > > Hey, guys. I hate to hijack the thread, but I've been shooting a lot of > film lately. Any other film shooters here? > > Last weekend was my first time using Ilford's

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Way too much grain. And certain parts of the picture are severely under-developed. On 7/3/18 10:50 AM, John A. Bennett wrote: Hey, guys. I hate to hijack the thread, but I've been shooting a lot of film lately. Any other film shooters here? Last weekend was my first time using Ilford's

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Dave, I’m confused by your response, which sounds like you disagree with me and are trying to convince me of something. My primary point was how broken the immigration system and border enforcement are. If I am reading you correctly, we agree the immigration system and border are very broken

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John A. Bennett wins the day! Oh, also..."whatever you did not do to the least of these, you did not do for me." If I were a righteous person and supported the Racist in Chief, I might be looking over my shoulder. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

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Whatever could you mean? Do you have examples of Joe, or the people on this list, or Americans in general being PRO removing some other kinds of children by force from their mothers? Philip Santa Rosa, CA On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 8:55:09 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Joe said: “You

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However, a nation does NOT have the right to break its own laws by eliminating many of the immigration-check-in places before the border, where individuals and families and families coming to the United States of America for asylum are legally allowed to go. Federal law and international

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Joe said: “You don't take children from mothers and put them in camps.” Agreed. If only we so passionately defended the rights of all children to not be removed by force from their mothers. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

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Hitler wasn't elected, he was appointed. Philip Santa Rosa, CA On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 6:52:30 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Joe: I like you, but your rhetoric is bumbling and more passionate than > intelligent, and that is true of much of what has been posted on this > subject. I

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The trend with this topic is "golly abducting children is bad, but po president has to enforce the laws and whatnot so whaddyagonnado womp womp build the wall." It's crap. You don't take children from mothers and put them in camps. It's been done. -- You received this message because you are

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That's bollocks. The topic isn't immigration in general, it's the government abducting children and putting them in camps. That's what Grant discussed on the Blahg, that's what I'm discussing here. It's not what a civil, moral society does. It's evil. Have a nice day. -- You received this

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Please accept my apologies, Joe. I realized my response singles you out and that was not my intention — my response is to the whole group, not just you. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

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Joe, I love your passion, but I believe there is more challenge and nuance here than you realize and it seems at best disingenuious to put all blame on Trump (whatever else a person may think of him) when our immigration laws and border have been broken since at least the Reagan era (who

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I don't give a damn what anybody thinks of my "bumbling rhetoric". You're either on the right side of abducting children or evil. Your choice. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

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Joe: I like you, but your rhetoric is bumbling and more passionate than intelligent, and that is true of much of what has been posted on this subject. I disassociated myself from one of Richard's comments earlier, because it was posted as reply to something I had posted, but I will support his

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I like the part where Richard acted shocked that I said Trump was abducting children, then supported the policy of abducting children. The art of doublespeak is strong with this one. Who btw is now talking on a Riv forum after renouncing Rivendells. -- You received this message because you

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I like it: a bicycle for Dad, a climbing structure for the kids... rod On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 6:15:30 PM UTC-4, Grant @ Rivendell wrote: > > It'll be a first look at our three-top tube bike! > > On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 12:40 PM, Bill Lindsay > wrote: > >> Bill hits the "Refresh" button on

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Richard, thanks for answering. Now everyone is crystal clear on your position. It's horrifying. It's never ok to purposefully inflict trauma on young children. Period. There is no other discussion after that statement. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

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Of course its not a good thing to separate children from their mothers, but it is sometimes necessary to temporarily do so, at least until DHS can figure out who these people are. Its not like they have documentation proving who they are. Keep in mind we have cases of human traffickers using

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So Richard...I think that's a yes, right? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

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I just listened to the song by Tom Russell "Who gonna build your wall" that Grant mentioned on his latest Blag post. Pretty good song, but Russell misses the point. Its not the rich Republican fat cats who want the wall built, its the average working class joe who hasn't had a raise since the

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This is very interesting to me. So Richard, here's a very simple and clear question: Do you think it's okay, do you think it's good policy to separate children from their mother? Under Obama or nowif they are illegally crossing or legally entering and seeking asylum? -- You received

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Abducting children??? Are you out of your mind? Trump officials are now abducting children Hey guys did you watch the Chris Wallace interview with Jeh Johnson, Obama's DHS Sec.? He admits to separating families and keeping children alone in detainment cells. Yes, its true! Wallace

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Trivisive. Philip Santa Rosa, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

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Double top tubes are out. Next big thing: double seat tubes. - T.J. “The only thing I wish was different about my ‘09 SH is that it had a 2nd top tube” Hurley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group

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Spy shot!!!

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