[RBW] Re: Handlebar suggestions for the Hunq

Love it! Currently working on a commuter bike with an upwards-sloping Salsa quill stem and albastache. If that ends up being too long reach, a dirt drop's the next thing to try. /Jeremy On Saturday, December 24, 2016 at 8:00:12 AM UTC-8, Daniel Jackson wrote: > > Albastache! With a Dirt

[RBW] Re: Handlebar suggestions for the Hunq

Albastache! With a Dirt Drop! https://www.instagram.com/p/BHspz1hgL-u/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar suggestions for the Hunq

Another possibility that is similar the the Jones in terms of angles is the Surly Open Bar. It comes in 25.4. I used it on a vintage mtb build that I took on a pretty challenging off-road tour in VA this past summer. There are a couple of hand positions. I didn't have any numbness after hours in

[RBW] Re: Handlebar suggestions for the Hunq

Great suggestions! Ok, I think I'm going to give new grips a try first and see if that helps. The cork grips have to go anyway. They look great and have a nice feel but they are really fragile. One of them has the end busted off now and that's the second time that's happened. The MAP bar does

[RBW] Re: Handlebar suggestions for the Hunq

dstein, Try raising the bars and/or a shorter stem, if possible. With abandon, Patrick On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 9:44:49 PM UTC-7, dstein wrote: > > I do start to get hand numbness on a longer ride with these that I don't > get with drops (haven't played much with height or angle

[RBW] Re: Handlebar suggestions for the Hunq

I cast my vote for the Jones H-Bar if you're doing a lot of single track. As Bob K mentioned you need to do an adapter. I did it for a while and it worked great. The only reason I changed was because I got a Jones bike w/ H bar's and all my bikes have to have different handlebars ;). There's

[RBW] Re: Handlebar suggestions for the Hunq

I personally need more angle - like that of the MAP Bar (could be a suitable solution here) or the Jones bar. I have a flat, low degree bend bar on my Salsa El Mar and need something with more bend back. I would definitely try the MAP bar if I were the OP. I was told by the maker they are

[RBW] Re: Handlebar suggestions for the Hunq

I've always been a little bewildered by the antipathy in Riv/Bob World towards flatbars. I agree they aren't much to look at, but for shortish town rides, and especially technical trails, they work great for me. I prefer Albas, Chocos or Noodles on my "nice" bikes because they look better and

[RBW] Re: Handlebar suggestions for the Hunq

What the divide riders use has no influence on my preferences. I included that because many people's first thought in regards to traditional MTB bars is that they don't have enough hand positions. On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 6:56:25 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > By your logic,

[RBW] Re: Handlebar suggestions for the Hunq

By your logic, Chris, you must not be a big fan of RBW's frames or bike builds either because "the guys riding the Divide trail don't seem to have any problems with (low handlebars, clip in peddles, horrid frame geometry, index shifting, disk brakes, front and read suspension, etc.). With

[RBW] Re: Handlebar suggestions for the Hunq

I really like the Jones H-Bar on my Krampus, and it'd be great in a Hunq. Slight issue is that it's a 31.8 clamp diameter, so you'd have to use a thread less conversion stem like this: http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/stems/quill-stems/vo-threadless-stem-adaptor.html. Some

[RBW] Re: Handlebar suggestions for the Hunq

I'm not a big fan of RBW's choices of handlebars. Very few bikes out there have grips that are close to parallel to the top-tube. Regular MTB bars with 9-15 degrees of sweep and up to about 40mm of rise work really well for me. The guys riding the Divide trail don't seem to have any problems

[RBW] Re: Handlebar suggestions for the Hunq

Tim, As you may have seen, I'm a fanboy of the new Moustache bars (aka Albastache). Here's why: brakes in the curves allow braking on technical descents, and I love the increased control of the forward (but not too forward) position of the curves for riding technical (climbing or descending).

[RBW] Re: Handlebar suggestions for the Hunq

Tim, consider some Ergon grips. They may solve the numbness issue w/o changing the bars.. http://ergonbike.myshopify.com/collections/grips/comfort-urban On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 5:44:18 PM UTC-5, Tim wrote: > > The only extra stem I have laying around is a Dirt Drop, which I would >

[RBW] Re: handlebar material

The Nitto heat treated aluminum is stronger and more expensive than Cr Mo. On Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 4:14:34 AM UTC-5, drew wrote: > > Yeah but on a few they've said that if you intend to go off-road and throw > your weight around, get the aluminum. Aluminum albas used to be specified >

[RBW] Re: handlebar material

Yeah but on a few they've said that if you intend to go off-road and throw your weight around, get the aluminum. Aluminum albas used to be specified as stronger on the site (haven't checked recently). I was always a little confused by this, especially considering riv's stance on steel. -- You

[RBW] Re: handlebar material

Aluminum dont rust. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: handlebar material

Aluminum: Lighter and Strong enough CroMo: Stronger and Light enough Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Wednesday, December 14, 2016 at 3:27:10 PM UTC-8, Jim S. wrote: > > Good evening, > > I was noticing that some of the handlebars that Riv sells are CroMo, and > some are aluminum. It looks

Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

Nice, I love GW park. I've never been biking out there though. On Monday, August 15, 2016 at 2:12:04 PM UTC-4, kielsun wrote: > > I thought I'd follow up on this thread since you all gave me such great > tips during the search phase. I ended up settling on the Surly Open Bar for > my build,

Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

I thought I'd follow up on this thread since you all gave me such great tips during the search phase. I ended up settling on the Surly Open Bar for my build, mostly because I was intrigued by the width and thought it would be of benefit on trails. I took a three-day bikepacking trip in the

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Chronicles

If you just want to get the bars higher on the Betty Foy, try a Nitto MT-10 dirt drop stem. This is a taller version of the dirt drops and gives way more height than the regular dirt drops. This stem gets the bars higher than the 6 inches of rise available with the Technomic stem or the 7

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Chronicles

This has an eeriely familiar ring to it. Esp. the part about the coupon. dougP On Saturday, July 30, 2016 at 10:48:34 PM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote: > > Here's how it goes between me and my wife: > > She: What was that you got on the credit card statement for 75$? > Me: Some bike stuff from

Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar Chronicles

Sweet, you two! Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 31, 2016, at 3:48 PM, Lungimsam wrote: > > Here's how it goes between me and my wife: > > She: What was that you got on the credit card statement for 75$? > Me: Some bike stuff from Rivendell. > She: Oh, ok. > Me: The

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Chronicles

Here's how it goes between me and my wife: She: What was that you got on the credit card statement for 75$? Me: Some bike stuff from Rivendell. She: Oh, ok. Me: The necklace I got you for your birthday sure looks nice. You really like it? She: Yeah, but you should have waited and got that on

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Chronicles

I imagine it would be hard to replicate my current pillow arrangement due to the fixed angle. -Justin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Chronicles

Get the bull moose boscos now. The 54cm is still fillet brazed but the wider one is now tigged. Same with the regular bull moose. The filleted version looks a lot nicer to me and I am likely not alone. Meaning as the transition to tigged bars progresses your filleted bull moose should hold

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Chronicles

Know your memes: Put a bird on it. On Friday, July 29, 2016 at 2:15:08 PM UTC-7, David Person wrote: > > Portland Design Works Bird Cage. > > >

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Chronicles

Portland Design Works Bird Cage. https://www.amazon.com/Portland-Design-Works-Water-Bottle/dp/B009F9ZOXK/ref=sr_1_1?s=outdoor-recreation=UTF8=1469826883=1-1=portland+design+works On Friday, July 29, 2016 at 12:31:50 PM UTC-7, Ryan Fleming wrote: > > Wow...I love that birdcage bottle

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Chronicles

Wow...I love that birdcage bottle cage...that's a really unique touch on a very nice bike! Wherever did you find that? On Thursday, July 28, 2016 at 2:03:52 PM UTC-5, Scott McLain wrote: > > My wife rides a betty with a bosco bar. It has a super long stem to > offset some of the reach back of

Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar Chronicles

"We've made it 12 years, how many more do you think before he no longer finds this cute? " Perhaps it's also working in his favor? How do you know how much he really spent on that new (fishing rod, golf clubs, pick-your-expensive-hobby)? I think you two have a fun thing going. Harmless &

Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar Chronicles

Sounds pretty wild to me. JP not only enjoys the enjoys the diversion - he's created tools to assist him decipher your ruse. In this case, I suggest presenting him with three options: 1) New Bosco bullmoose. Explain this is the highest risk option because they may not work and you will be

Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar Chronicles

Corwin, you are so very right. I should be upfront with JP. But, for laughs, I must tell you about The JP Official Manipulation Policy. Many years ago, when we were first married, I would round down - ok, way down - when disclosing purchases. He figured out that I was doing it, learned to run

Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar Chronicles

Geez this bike is lovely... Swoon Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 29, 2016, at 5:03 AM, Scott McLain wrote: > > My wife rides a betty with a bosco bar. It has a super long stem to offset > some of the reach back of the bosco. Her betty is a 58 so it is already a >

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Chronicles

Hi Leah - I would level with hubby. He sounds pretty reasonable. Heck - he's got TWO Rivendells in his garage. I would start with this - tell hubby you LOVE his setup on the Clem and have not stopped thinking about it since you rode his bike. I would ask Hubby if you can borrow his bike to

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Chronicles

My wife rides a betty with a bosco bar. It has a super long stem to offset some of the reach back of the bosco. Her betty is a 58 so it is already a big size. The bosco's really make the cockpit shorter so there is not enough room to operate for my taste. I think if you go to the boscos you

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Chronicles

What was the stem length you measured and exactly what stem is it ? As I mentioned previously, you may simply be able to raise the Alba bars with a different stem. Neither the Alba or the Bosco is anything special by themselves, the purpose of them is have your hands where you want them

Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar Chronicles

Leah: I completely understand; I have similar feelings toward my Atlantis. As to riding it when I'm 70, well, that'll happen next election cycle. Grant has said his bikes are "bikes to grow old with". David's suggestion of the photos is excellent. Run with it. dougP On Sunday,

Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar Chronicles

When you talk to Riv, direct them to your New Bike Day Flickr album and they will be able to see the two bikes together in several of the pictures, which may help them answer your questions. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar Chronicles

Doug, no more Rivs! I have visions of riding this bike when I'm 70. Someone posted a video (was it you, Patrick Moore?) of an old bike repair shop in Amsterdam (or somewhere close) with a man at the helm by the name of Hans. He could fix anything. This elderly woman came bawling to his shop

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Chronicles

Leah: I agree with others that calling Rivendell is you best starting point. As you note, there is a lot going on with handlebars, positioning, controls, etc. You've got the problem pretty well outlined so you can speak with confidence, and they may have a few questions you haven't thought

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Chronicles

Call Riv and ask whether this works... they will probably want to know what stem is on the Clem and what stem is on your Foy. This will be your cheapest solution since the Albas will transfer with their levers and shifters. The key thing is reach. This stem may put the bars too far forward.

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Chronicles

All you'd need is different stem, one that angles upward(positive rise) instead of flat even with the top tube, but that depends on how much reach you need. There are other non Nitto alternatives for this too but if you are set on certain "look", then forget this idea ! Riv should be able

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Chronicles

1. Bosco will work fine. But you are right, different frames feel different with the same bars, so what you love about the Clem may be different on the Betty. 2. Bullmoose bars are a triangulated (and fixed) handlebar/stem. This is also why bullmoose are more expensive that bar only, but the

Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

I love it. And I love how he decided to live outside the normal conventions of society. And whynot a dbl stacked handle bar? I get so caught up on new things and clever design (nothing wrong with that) but this guy just figured out a design that worked for him. He didn't surf the internet for that

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

Maybe it's the AM Coffee talking here, but I've been looking for a place to suggest, or at least draw attention to *Heinz Stucke's double-level handlebar setup*... may as well throw it in here... I forgot/never knew what he used/made for them, but ... You can see a couple pic here and here if

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

> > > > > I have the Sycip singles bar and love it. It absorbs more vibration than > the Jones bar, has about the same sweep, is 26" wide and allows lots of > hand

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

Sorry also ment to mention Sycip JJJ bars. They look promising but I have no personal experience with them also a bit pricey. Gotta +1 the jones loop h bar. Really are my favorites which includes goes with most the usual Riv suspects, bosco, alba, noodle, moustache. I found the hand positions

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

Check out simworks and the getaround bar. I picked one up and love it. Straight bars tend to hurt my wrists but for me this bar has about the perfect amount of sweep. It's well priced at 40ish bucks and made by Nitto win! They have been out of stock for a bit but last time I checked with

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

Thanks for the link, Mike! I'm glad you swooped in after my purchase because I can't afford the Jones H-Bar anyway! That definitely seems like the best long-term option, though. I'll start pinching pennies. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

Oops, wrong link, here's the correct product: SOMA High Rider stem adapter On Saturday, June 18, 2016 at 11:42:22 AM UTC-7, Mike in WA wrote: > > You could easily get the Jones H-Bar high enough with a Soma High Rider >

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

You could easily get the Jones H-Bar high enough with a Soma High Rider stem . The Jones H-Bar is absolutely fantastic, I can't imagine ever using another bar, especially for MTB purposes; super stable and comfortable with so many good

Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

Ron, thanks again. I dug that picture up in an old thread when ready about the MAP bar. Ben, I thought about going bullmoose, but I don't think the stem would get the bars up high enough to match the height of my saddle. It's a bummer because I really like how they look. I rode into my

Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

JUST finished a ride on my big MB-1, using 10cm dirt drop stem with original straight Nitto bar. Many days of rugged trails like this. Wrists still want a little bar retreat, and neck wants no additional reach. I think the Riv Bullmoose bar would be perfect if retreat offsets the extra reach.

Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

Of course people are built differently, I'm 6'3 and all limbs, and a tall, shorter-reach bike is what fits me. But I and use a 100mm stem with drop bars on my 59cmTT road bike (63cm ST), and that with short-reach compact drops. But I took that measurement from my properly set-up moustache

Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

I wouldn't argue. I'm halfway tempted to throw the Moustache bar back on my Sam with a DD stem--it actually came from Riv with a 100 mm Technomic + Moustache combo--but I'm happy with the Albas for now, so I won't be going to the trouble. Still not settled on a handlebar purchase for my mtb.

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

Gotcha. yes, as Ron mentioned, Mustache require 2" (5cm) shorter than a regular road bar, so I'd argue you haven't tried them. Yes, I have Mustache (all my Albastache bars are happily in use), and yes, the Albastache is its own beastie and well worth trying. With abandon, Patrick On Friday,

Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

Bob, I tried both the Moustache & Albastache and liked neither. I felt stretched out and the brake lever position wasn't ideal for me. That said you may experience them differently. With bikes and most especially with cockpits there's no substitute for experience. And we change. When I was young

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

Getting there, Patrick. By "splayed out" I meant that my body felt too elongated with the moustache bars on my Sam. Some of this splay could've been avoided with a dirt drop stem, though. I'm definitely curious about the Albastache if they're truly quite different from moustache bars. Earlier

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

Bob, sounds like you are narrowing things down a bit. Ultimately, it's all an experiment, even if the trial lasts for several years with tweaks along the way. Grin. I have no experience with 2 and 3, but I rode the Albatross bars on my Hunqapillar for two years before swapping to Albastache.

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

Thanks Veloman and Ron. Ron, I dug around and found an old post of yours about the Map bar. Definitely intriguing. I measured the top tube of my Rockhopper and it's roughly three cm longer than that of my Sam. So here are the final few options I'm considering. 1. Albatross w/ 120 mm

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

Another vote for the On-One Mary bars. Mike On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 5:36:35 AM UTC-7, kielsun wrote: > > I hesitated posting this here, but it's definitely a Riv-inspired > conundrum. I'm building up a late 80s Rockhopper and having trouble finding > the right handlebar setup. It will

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

Late to the party, but this article is still the best info in once place http://oldglorymtb.com/round-up-alternative-or-alt-mountain-bike-handlebars/ Big Map bar fan here. There are 3 bars that were derived from the Jones H bar, Jitensha Touring (Nitto 2522), Ahearne Map bar, and On-One

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

Yes, technically Robert has those bars backwards. The standard position has the straight part of the bar with levers closest to you - mimicking an mtb bar - then the curved sections are forward of the stem for stretching out on longer rides. -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

Remember, you can also use those bars the other way, with the open end forward - the stem mount is about in the center, so no matter which way you turn them there's about the same for and aft. > > Robert--That trekking bar is really cool. I don't think I'd like to have > to reach for the

Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

Hi Bob, That's funny. The Ala Carte is my stop gap. I've got a 27.5 x 3" custom in the works. I sold my Atlantis so the Salsa is my adventure bike till I have my grubby hands on the baby fat. For about $80 shipped I figured it was a small price for all day comfort. We all have our logic. I have a

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

Folks, thanks for taking the time to respond. I appreciate all of your ideas and wish I had the cash to try them all! The Jones Loop is such a great-looking and seemingly versatile bar, so I'm considering a threadless stem adapter, like the VO one, and going that route, especially since I

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

I'm very loving butterfly bars on my 84 trek 830. http://hujev.net/image/med/700_4151.jpg (One drawback - no easy mirror location: and I don't like that s*Shh*s*Ha*aA *A*kkK*k*y kraut mirror!)

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

For trail I would go with a flat bar, maybe stick those little bar ends on. I did a 6 hour MTB race and I rode a flat bar and the only thing I wish I added was those ergo bar end things where you can just grip on the end of the bar. I grip there now just using the end of the bar but those

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

I'm using the Jones bars on my 1995 Salsa Ala Carte. I really like them. One issue I'll mention, getting the bars up high enough were a challenge. I had a judy xc rockshox and the steerer was cut. I asked the forum where I could get a 1" threadless rigid fork? It was Joe Bunik that directed me

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

I am highly partial to Albastache bars, and on a "too small" bike, would give Moustache bars a go. I think I have a pair if you're interested in trying (but they are 26.0mm, so need road brakes/shifters). Their positioning for what you describe is perfect for my version of the same type of

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

Ahearne MAP bars are awesome. Jones bars are probably favorite off-road bars, and slowly creeping on my favorite pavement bars. On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 8:36:35 AM UTC-4, kielsun wrote: > > I hesitated posting this here, but it's definitely a Riv-inspired > conundrum. I'm building up a

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

Have you considered standard MTB bars? I've tried drops. I've tried cruiser bars. I've tried Albatross bars. I always go back to a traditional MTB bar with about 10 degrees of pullback and 38mm of rise. There's a reason most MTB's that get ridden off-road use that type of bar. A Jones

[RBW] Re: Handlebar 'clicking' with shim

Darnit, running through the mental inventory of what's down in my shop I do have a Specialized-branded Nitto 100mm 25.4 quill. If I wasn't so tired last week I'd have been smart and just used that. Alright, sounds like I'll just weather the nuisance of breaking half the bar down and switching

[RBW] Re: Handlebar 'clicking' with shim

Could be the stem moving, ever so gently, in the steer tube, too. Mine did that shortly after installation. I pulled it, slathered it in grease. Silence!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[RBW] Re: Handlebar 'clicking' with shim

I always do that anyway, Lungimsam. I bike year round in some wet schlock, so I usually just slather the quill and wedge in grease and wipe off any that gets squeegeed out. I've had to pull seized aluminum quills out of a steel steerer before and it's certainly not an experience I'm eager to

[RBW] Re: Handlebar 'clicking' with shim

And slap alot of grease on the quill and wedge, too for anything that sits in the steerer tube. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Handlebar 'clicking' with shim

Mine was just creaking is I light to moderately rested weight on the ends of the bars while sitting. Not a major problem, for sure. But darn was it getting under my skin. I found the old 25.4 quill I had in the same reach (shorter quill, but hey, I was nearly slamming the Boscos anyway...) Got

[RBW] Re: Handlebar 'clicking' with shim

I have two bikes with Technomic stems - they both creak when I stand on them -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Handlebar 'clicking' with shim

David, I know. And someday, maybe. Next time the cables need replacing. Put a lot of money on the card switching over to the Bosco cockpit as was (and a month before my wedding, at that) just to keep things copacetic since it's my daily commuter. Good stems aren't entirely cheap or easy to

[RBW] Re: Handlebar 'clicking' with shim

I agree with David. Whenever I went to 26.0 to 25.4 using a shim, it hasn't had the best results. But I would probably use loctite over grease. On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 1:48:17 PM UTC-4, Zed Martinez wrote: > > David, I know. And someday, maybe. Next time the cables need replacing. > Put a

[RBW] Re: Handlebar 'clicking' with shim

If it were me, the first thing I would do is make sure the Nitto Shims are not touching each other. The nitto 25.4 to 26.0 shims are two half-circles. There's a tiny gap between them. Try to have them set up such that it is a tiny half-gap on both sides. The second thing I would do is make

[RBW] Re: Handlebar 'clicking' with shim

Hi Zed, Not what you're asking, but I'd get a 25.4mm stem. I really don't care for shimming handlebars and would rather get the appropriate clamp size stem. I think folks' use the Loctite trick for sleeved bars, which a shimmed Bosco would be similar to. David Chicago On Friday, March 18,

[RBW] Re: Handlebar flex?

you guys all sound right, and keith you are correct in saying that the feeling is noticeably less while riding. i hooked them up and went for a very short spin. flex aside/ignored, im not sure these are the bars for me. ill keep them on for a little while and for some longer rides to see if i

[RBW] Re: Handlebar flex?

If what's happening is what I think is happening, it's actually a "torsion" that he's seeing. At least that's what I determined about my Bosco, which is sort of similar in that it is has a non-compound "C" shape, as viewed from the top. So the front, straight section is likely "twisting,"

[RBW] Re: Handlebar flex?

Yes, I was making the distinction between seeing the ends of the bar move vs seeing the bar itself bending. You made it sound like you can see the bend in the bar, like the curve in a fishing rod when there's a fish on. Anyway, for context, I just pulled my road bike out of the bike locker

[RBW] Re: Handlebar flex?

Hey bill, No grips on the bars yet. And I can definitely see flex. If I had someone here to help, they could measure while I push down. There is a quite visible spring up movement when I remove weight. Tried the same level of push on my wife's albatrossed bike + 12cm Tallux and with a 11cm

[RBW] Re: Handlebar flex?

You can see the bars actually bending? Or you can see the grips actually moving? Those are not necessarily the same thing. I attribute most of the flex you describe to the Tallux stem. I'm sure the bars flex a little as well, but I'd ballpark it at about 80% stem and 20% bars. On

[RBW] Re: Handlebar flex?

Red sticker and everything. I guess these are the widest and most swept backy bars I've ever tried, but I was expecting similar stiffness to albatrosses. These things feel downright bendy. I'll give them a go, but worried about that front load-off rhythm-wiggle that can happen -- You received

[RBW] Re: Handlebar flex?

If you think that's radical, you should try the aluminum Bosco bars! The reality though, in my experience, is that such flex is much less noticeable during actual use, and can actually be a very nice thing - stopping a lot of vibration from transmitting to your hands.Sitting on a

[RBW] Re: Handlebar flex?

Sample size of one, but I had some On-One Midge bars on a lightweight frame some years ago. The combo flexed so much when climbing out of the saddle that I felt like I was one pedal stroke away from laterally taco-ing the whole bike. Same frame with Albatrosseses, no such phenomenonenon.

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Comparison: Albatross, MAP/Ahearne, Jitensha, VO Postino

there are some paul thumbies for sale right down the page. They make a lot more sense with this bar. But I do not believe the "mountain" bar will take bar end shifters. On Monday, September 7, 2015 at 7:44:24 PM UTC-5, Daniel Jackson wrote: > > Anybody know if the Ahearne MAP bar will fit

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Comparison: Albatross, MAP/Ahearne, Jitensha, VO Postino

I believe mountain bars are usually the wrong diameter tubing for bar ends. More significantly, the shifters would stick out to the sides with those bars and probably catch on everything. They tend to work on the more swept back bars like the Albatross and Albastache (although I did hit them

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Comparison: Albatross, MAP/Ahearne, Jitensha, VO Postino

I just put a Surly "Open Bar" on my bike and I like it so far, it's in this family of bars you're looking at. Switched from an albatross which I loved but wanted a little more width (the surly's are a wicked 66.6) and less sweep. The more options the better, generally. -Kai On Saturday,

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Comparison: Albatross, MAP/Ahearne, Jitensha, VO Postino

Anybody know if the Ahearne MAP bar will fit bar end shifters? Thanks, D. On Sunday, June 7, 2015 at 8:32:19 PM UTC-4, Philip Kim wrote: > > Nice, I love the Ahearnehandlebars bars. I have the narrower version, fit > my ergo grips, brake levers, and shifters just fine. Makes a great trail >

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Comparison: Albatross, MAP/Ahearne, Jitensha, VO Postino

I would say it also has to do with whether you want a more upright position or not. I have had the Jitenshas on a Quickbeam. They're good, narrow urban bars. The Postino bars are the same shape and design I believe, but a little wider which would be good if you're mounting shifters (and since

Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar Comparison: Albatross, MAP/Ahearne, Jitensha, VO Postino

If you want your bars at seat level, the J-bars are great: https://instagram.com/p/3pEEF6RHVY/ On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 1:03 PM, DS davecst...@gmail.com wrote: I would say it also has to do with whether you want a more upright position or not. I have had the Jitenshas on a Quickbeam. They're

Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar Comparison: Albatross, MAP/Ahearne, Jitensha, VO Postino

as I said, all these bars except the Albas are the same shape - all modeled on the Jones H bar. The critical choice is the width. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/Viner/aaaP5210003.jpg here are the 615mm MAP bars On Sunday, June 7, 2015 at 3:58:18 PM UTC-5,

Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar Comparison: Albatross, MAP/Ahearne, Jitensha, VO Postino

Hi Ron, Could you (gu)estimate where the center of the grips end up on the M/A bars in relation to the stem clamp? Thanks, joe broach Caveat lector. Sent from a phone. On Jun 7, 2015 2:45 PM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: as I said, all these bars except the Albas are the same shape -

Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar Comparison: Albatross, MAP/Ahearne, Jitensha, VO Postino

I can do better than that, I photoshopped and measured the photos that Joe Ahearne provided. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/Viner/map%20bar.jpg I have an 80mm Technomic, and the bars end about an inch behind the stem On Sunday, June 7, 2015 at 7:17:08 PM UTC-5,

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Comparison: Albatross, MAP/Ahearne, Jitensha, VO Postino

the last 3 are all pretty close to the same shape - main difference is the width. I went with the MAP bars to get the 615mm width. At this point don't think I'd want either wider (Mary bar) or narrower (Jitensa) I've been 65 mi on the bars and they're very comfortable - a bit over 200 mi

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