Re: [RBW] Pashley What If...

2017-11-05 Thread Coal Bee Rye Anne
P.s. I realize the Schwalbe delta cruisers are not likely the best “all weather” or “winter” tires but they’d go nicely with the rest of the build and this would be intended to just allow me a fendered wet weather road bike with plusher rubber that the currently maxed 700x32 and may even have

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2017-11-05 Thread Coal Bee Rye Anne
Genuine concern and not just playing devil’s advocate... but is it possible for many caliper/canti designed forks to lack strength or lower blade reinforcement for the lever arm of drums (similar to the way discs could overpower and crumple some forks if not made with discs in mind) ? Clearly

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2017-11-05 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks for the name change. It does make it easier to address a particular remark to a person. Regarding wheels: a 700C wheel with a 44 m tire will be just about the same diameter as a 635 wheel with 38 mm tire, at least according to Jim's trail calculator. I rather think that Guvnor with the

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2017-11-04 Thread Dave Grossman
I have two bikes currently with drum brakes including my for sale Guv'nor and a Workcycles Transport Double Top Tube. They are not hydro discs but nothing is. I have XT hydros on my Jones and they are the best brakes I have ever used. However, I think the drums are great. They are

Re: [RBW] Pashley What If...

2017-11-04 Thread Patrick Moore
You are right; thanks for pointing that out -- 635, not 630. But that brings the 2 wheel systems very close, assuming that the 28s are really about 38 mm wide, and the Snoqualmies really 44 mm wide: 360 for the 635 X 38s, 359 for the 622 X 44s. On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 8:17 PM, Ian A

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2017-11-04 Thread Deacon Patrick
Patrick, aye, but I’d love the option of a lugged 2.1” tire as that opens the possibility of winter riding. Ian, aye, I have. But you add the resistance of snow to these climbs but then descend plowed dirt/mud road and a single gear is annoying. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this

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2017-11-04 Thread Ian A
Patric Moore: he Pashley is 635 bsd, no? The Compass in 700 x 44 would be great, as long as they clear. Deacon: Have you considered running the Hunq single speed for the winter outings? That reduces maintenance lots with minimal investment. IanA -- You received this message because you are

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2017-11-04 Thread Patrick Moore
Sheesh: 630 X 38 = 357, 622 X 44, 359. On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 7:13 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > Patrick: I have been very tempted indeed by that Guvnor that Geeter was > selling (people, puh*leeze* sign off with your real names), but no, > Advent Lent is coming up, and I'm

Re: [RBW] Pashley What If...

2017-11-04 Thread Joe Bernard
Eric, I've had drums on one bike and one recumbent trike. It's a slightly mushy feel at the lever that takes a little time to get used to, but they work as well as any rim brake I've used. As good as hydraulic discs? Nahh. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

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2017-11-04 Thread Patrick Moore
Patrick: re drum brakes: Look at this: http://www.63xc.com/dws/hubbrake.htm Wonderful old website devoted to off road fixed gearing. I tried it and, while uphills and flats were fine at 60 or 63 gi, downhills were horrible, despairing sisyphusian hells with 175s. But still, much of interest, like

Re: [RBW] Pashley What If...

2017-11-04 Thread Patrick Moore
Patrick: I have been very tempted indeed by that Guvnor that Geeter was selling (people, puh*leeze* sign off with your real names), but no, Advent Lent is coming up, and I'm about to toss $1,200 and change at a huge, top end monitor with RAM and modem/router upgrade, so no. But what I'd do with

Re: [RBW] Pashley What If...

2017-11-04 Thread Eric Daume
I was ready to poo-poo drum brakes, but a bit of reading has me at least a little intrigued. Not intrigued enough to abandon my Shimano hydraulic disc mountain bikes and invest in drum brakes, but intrigued enough to watch

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2017-11-04 Thread Steven Sweedler
Patrick, Both the Ogre and the Hunq felt like would roll over most roots and rocks but I felt less comfortable in tighter surroundings.I also travel and the smaller wheels make for a smaller package.. Most of my miles these last 10 years were on a Thorn w/26".I like that wheel size. Steve On

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2017-11-04 Thread Deacon Patrick
You’re missin’ out, Joe! Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

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2017-11-04 Thread Joe Bernard
Well sir, I see the issue now. You ride in conditions that I have a special vehicle for: my car ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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2017-11-04 Thread Deacon Patrick
Perfectly reasonable question, Joe. I get issues in two conditions, Joe. 32˚F to 15˚F when wet and mud from the road lands on the drive train and messes up the derailer, preventing use of higher gears (also freezing on the rims, making braking possible only after a lot of pumbing), or the same

Re: [RBW] Pashley What If...

2017-11-04 Thread Joe Bernard
Aside from just thinking it's a cool idea (I do, I love the drum brake/IGH look), would this really make a better winter bike than the current derailer/brakes setup? Honest question, I don't ride in the type of winter conditions you face. Joe Bernard Vallejo CA. -- You received this

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2017-11-04 Thread Deacon Patrick
Here’s my current musing: Hunqapillar, convert to 650b, with Sturmey Archer 5 or 8 speed IGH, drum brakes (which European MTB sites seem to like better than disk in some cases (Scotland) and dyno front hub/90mm drum brake). That addresses the handling, and gives all weather drivetrain and

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2017-11-04 Thread Ian A
Also, I ferl your urge. I would kove a Pashley, but I have a three bike maximum and can never seem to get below yhe current four. Would make room for a 56cm Atlantis or BG Rock n Road (26" wheel) if one fell in my lap. IanA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

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2017-11-04 Thread Deacon Patrick
“After riding a Surly Ogre and then a Hunquapillar, both with 2.2 tires, I prefer my 92 Stumpjumper w/2.1 Thunderburts. Steve” Steve, Could you elaborate please? Keep in mind the only geometry I know works well for my vertigo is Grant’s. The Stumpjumper has slacker anges, just not as slack as

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2017-11-04 Thread Steven Sweedler
Patrick, I would love to see Riv bring out a canti braked AR for a lot less than a custom. After riding a Surly Ogre and then a Hunquapillar, both with 2.2 tires, I prefer my 92 Stumpjumper w/2.1 Thunderburts. Steve Plymouth, NH On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 11:54 AM Deacon Patrick

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2017-11-04 Thread Deacon Patrick
Ah ha! Thanks for the catch, Steve. So that’s a 3” smaller wheel. Another error I made is I didn’t double the tire delta, so the diameter delta in tire is actually 1.6”, so while my math was confused, the concept is right because the two errors offset each other and the end result is close to a

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2017-11-04 Thread Steven Sweedler
Patrick, I am headed in the same direction, but 26" mtb wheels are 559. Steve On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 11:31 AM Deacon Patrick wrote: > Math check: > > Wheel delta from 635mm (28”) to 599 mm (26”) = 36mm or 1.4” smaller > diameter. > > Increase tire delta from 1.5” to 2.3” =