[RBW] Re: Brass Fenders at Soma Fab

2009-01-14 Thread Angus
If the brass fenders aren't coated the color is going to change over time...if anyone has a brass bell, take a look at that. For me this woud be a plus. http://www.flickr.com/photos/16951...@n08/3194992833/ Ahh...beausage. Angus On Jan 13, 8:50 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote:

[RBW] Re: fenders off road?

2009-01-14 Thread Bob
If offroad just means trails, you probably won't need to make any changes, and metal fenders will do just fine. Prepare for lots and lots of rattling noise. Bob On Jan 14, 12:47 am, J L subfas...@gmail.com wrote: My Saluki has been seeing more action on the trails than the pavement, enough

[RBW] Re: Rivs Mac's

2009-01-14 Thread BobD
Hello my name's Bob...and I'm a PC. But since the purchase of my AHH and iPhone, I succumbed to the inexplicable, yet powerful allure of the Steve Jobs empire and bought a MacBook Pro. On Jan 13, 10:14 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: This little thread popped up over on iBob, but

[RBW] Re: bucket panniers

2009-01-14 Thread Sarah Gibson
thanks for that link added it to the acme site http://www.acmebicyclecompany.com/bucketpanniers.htm for those whod prefer to make their own peacewell behaved women rarely make history_ride yr friggin bicycle_ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:35:30 -0800 Subject: [RBW] Re: bucket panniers From:

[RBW] Re: Rivs Mac's

2009-01-14 Thread Scott G.
On Jan 14, 1:15 am, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I miss my Apple ][e... Amen, much easier to operate than a WinXP or Mac OSX machine. Remember computers were supposed to get easier to use?, Instead we get Ma Bells Unix in drag running on a box claiming to be a Mac. I have

[RBW] Re: Rivs Mac's

2009-01-14 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Scott G. sco...@primax.com wrote: Amen, much easier to operate than a WinXP or Mac OSX machine. Remember computers were supposed to get easier to use?, Instead we get Ma Bells Unix in drag running on a box claiming to be a Mac. I have nightmares that in

[RBW] Re: fenders off road?

2009-01-14 Thread Ethan
I was expecting wetter weather than we have in August for the D2R2 (crazy randonee in Massachusetts 112 miles, 70% on dirt roads, and 11,000 ft of climbing) so I rode my Atlantis with Honjos installed and while there was a great deal of rattling they worked fine. Granted this was mainly dirt

[RBW] Re: Brass Fenders at Soma Fab

2009-01-14 Thread JoelMatthews
Think those 40mm ones would fit a 650b? Thinking Saluki... They are not pre-drilled and Honjo hardware is pretty adaptable. You may want to call Soma, but I bet you can make them work fine. On Jan 13, 10:00 pm, colin p. cummings colinthehip...@gmail.com wrote: Think those 40mm ones would

[RBW] Re: Brass Fenders at Soma Fab

2009-01-14 Thread JoelMatthews
If the brass fenders aren't coated the color is going to change over time...if anyone has a brass bell, take a look at that. For me this woud be a plus. I am hoping that myself. Weathered brass is very special. On Jan 14, 4:38 am, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote: If the brass fenders

[RBW] Re: fenders off road?

2009-01-14 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I've been running Berthoud fenders in offroad trail-riding for a long time. They work fine and are only noisy when a pebble goes through. On Jan 13, 11:47 pm, J L subfas...@gmail.com wrote: My Saluki has been seeing more action on the trails than the pavement, enough so that I am considering

[RBW] Re: Brass Fenders at Soma Fab

2009-01-14 Thread Kelt
With the look of the brass and the all the leather and such accessories as hempen twine and waxed canvas, not to mention wool and steel, have we predated the Steampunk genre, or merely created a subgenre? Rivpunk anyone?Hand me the beeswax. From snowy Ohio. Kelt I am hoping that myself.

[RBW] Re: Rivs Mac's

2009-01-14 Thread Bill Connell
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Scott G. sco...@primax.com wrote: On Jan 14, 1:15 am, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I miss my Apple ][e... Amen, much easier to operate than a WinXP or Mac OSX machine. Remember computers were supposed to get easier to use?, Instead we get Ma

[RBW] Re: fenders off road?

2009-01-14 Thread JL
Thanks for all the input. It was trail riding I was talking about, (someone had asked). I think I will change out my Hetres for fatty rumpkins and leave my bags at home - that should be good enough for a while. Jason --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this

[RBW] Re: fenders off road?

2009-01-14 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I have Planet Bike 60s on my Big Apple shod Monocog 29er, and there is no problem except shake thanks to flimsy stays. No rattling, either, but then the Monocog has huge clearances even with 60 mm tires and fenders. I'd say you will be fine as long as you have, say, a cm between fender and tire.

[RBW] Re: fenders off road?

2009-01-14 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 06:58 -0800, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: I've been running Berthoud fenders in offroad trail-riding for a long time. They work fine and are only noisy when a pebble goes through. That's my experience as well. I use 50mm Berthouds on my Saluki with Col de la Vie

[RBW] Re: Rivs Mac'

2009-01-14 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I could have said, One Linux, two Rivs until I got my first (used) Mac a couple of months ago ('04 iBook G4). On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 9:39 PM, All Rounder 2000 s_schermerh...@yahoo.comwrote: Survey seems to indicate an inverse relationship. :) I was looking for a survey response to describe

[RBW] Re: Brass Fenders at Soma Fab

2009-01-14 Thread Jay Sinn
I think the Rivendell way is more ...well functional than fancy. That said, this is the Steampunk take on cycling: http://steampunkworkshop.com/images/steampunk-trike-front.jpg I would pefer a Bombidell over that. Hands down. On Jan 14, 9:58 am, Kelt kilted.cornish...@gmail.com wrote: With the

[RBW] Re: Netbook use on bike (Was Rivs Mac's)

2009-01-14 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I can't speak from pesonal experience, but a computer tech who has given me some very good service bought a similar Dell last year and highly recommended it to me -- I know that's only a very general answer, but it might serve to weight one side of the decision scale. On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 7:35

[RBW] Re: fenders off road?

2009-01-14 Thread John McMurry
On Jan 14, 12:47 am, J L subfas...@gmail.com wrote: My Saluki has been seeing more action on the trails than the pavement, enough so that I am considering some minor setup changes to better function on the trails. The bikes is currently setup as a rack laden commuter. Is there any

[RBW] Re: Netbook use on bike (Was Rivs Mac's)

2009-01-14 Thread Bill Connell
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Yeah, I sure don't want to get that worn old debate going anew, but I would like to mention and maybe seek comments on a computer/bike question. I recently purchased a small Acer netbook (2 lbs., 6 x 8 inches) to carry in

[RBW] Re: fenders off road?

2009-01-14 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 8:52 AM, John McMurry johnmcmu...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 14, 12:47 am, J L subfas...@gmail.com wrote: The primary concern of using fenders on off-road trails is being thrown over the bars when a stick catches your fender stays or an object funnels up into the fork

[RBW] Re: Netbook use on bike (Was Rivs Mac's)

2009-01-14 Thread JoelMatthews
Ray: I took the Macbook Air on a trip last fall. I bought a sleeve from Waterfield designs in San Francisco and packed it in the pannier in between changes of clothes. The trip was on paved roads in Massachusetts. The Air did just fine. Not certain I would do the same off road. The I Phone

[RBW] Re: Netbook use on bike (Was Rivs Mac's)

2009-01-14 Thread Eric Norris
One option to consider would be an XO laptop from One Laptop Per Child. I have one, and they're pretty much indestructible--no moving parts, waterproof keyboard, etc. I haven't taken it touring, but I'm sure it would do fine. The downside to the XO for you (aside from the small

[RBW] Any opinions on Sachs shifters?

2009-01-14 Thread BJU
Not exactly Riv-related, but I figure you lot, if anyone, would have experience with these shifters. I am looking at a late 90s cyclocross bike that comes equipped with a Sachs ergo 7spd shifter set. The seller says they are in great shape, very reliable, and super smooth. Basically a Campy lever

[RBW] Re: Netbook use on bike (Was Rivs Mac's)

2009-01-14 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: One option to consider would be an XO laptop from One Laptop Per Child. I have one, and they're pretty much indestructible--no moving parts, waterproof keyboard, etc. I haven't taken it touring, but I'm sure it would

[RBW] Re: fenders off road?

2009-01-14 Thread Eric Daume
Patrick, Did you drill a hole in your Monocog fork's crown to mount the front fender upper stay? My old green MC didn't have a hole there. Thanks, Eric just sorta thinking about another one Daume On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 11:03 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009

[RBW] Re: fenders off road?

2009-01-14 Thread PATRICK MOORE
No, it was drilled at the factory. On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Eric Daume ericda...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, Did you drill a hole in your Monocog fork's crown to mount the front fender upper stay? My old green MC didn't have a hole there. Thanks, Eric just sorta thinking about

[RBW] Re: Cool looking exhibit in Boston

2009-01-14 Thread Dick
Sounds interesting. Dick in similarly slushy Needham On Jan 8, 8:48 am, Ethan ethan.bickf...@gmail.com wrote: I'd be interested! I live in JP right now but will be living in Berlin, MA by then. Still not hard for me to get into the city. Sounds like fun! Ethan On Jan 7, 6:28 pm, MichaelS

[RBW] Re: Brass Fenders at Soma Fab

2009-01-14 Thread MichaelH
Depends on whether you want to ride or just parade around. I do like the horn though. It would get the attention of joggers with ipods growing out of their ears. On Jan 14, 10:47 am, Jay Sinn sinn...@gmail.com wrote: I think the Rivendell way is more ...well functional than fancy. That said,

[RBW] Re: Any opinions on Sachs shifters?

2009-01-14 Thread pruckelshaus
Sachs is nice because it works fine with Shimano -- at least the old stuff did. Your 7s shifter is also probably7 8s. On Jan 14, 11:13 am, BJU brianu...@gmail.com wrote: Not exactly Riv-related, but I figure you lot, if anyone, would have experience with these shifters. I am looking at a late

[RBW] Re: Rivs Mac's

2009-01-14 Thread k5osx
On Jan 13, 9:14 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: How many Riv owners are Mac-owners? 3 mac mini's, 1 mbp, one atlantis, and one callsign that shows my allegience. - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net UNIX rules. robert

[RBW] Re: Brass Fenders at Soma Fab

2009-01-14 Thread Bill Connell
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 08:54 -0800, MichaelH wrote: Depends on whether you want to ride or just parade around. I do like the horn though. It would get the attention of joggers with ipods growing out of their ears. A

[RBW] Re: Rivs Mac's

2009-01-14 Thread jaybmc...@gmail.com
Two Rivs (one Quickbeam for me, one Ram for my wife); three Macs (if you count the ancient ibook); two Martin guitars (does that relate?). On Jan 14, 3:11 am, k5osx k5o...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 13, 9:14 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: How many Riv owners are Mac-owners?

[RBW] Re: Brass Fenders at Soma Fab

2009-01-14 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 11:31 -0600, Bill Connell wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 08:54 -0800, MichaelH wrote: Depends on whether you want to ride or just parade around. I do like the horn though. It would get the

[RBW] Re: Rivs Mac's

2009-01-14 Thread Tom Lettington
{Off topic, but fun thread} Adhering for 30 years (or so) exclusively to the Microsoft religion (after a few years of CP/M), I went for a new iMac and OS X with the eye popping 24 screen last year. I'm having difficulty weaning myself completely from the Windows World, so both machines are

[RBW] Re: Brass Fenders at Soma Fab

2009-01-14 Thread JoelMatthews
I would pefer a Bombidell over that. Hands down. But wouldn't you agree those brass fenders would like mighty nice on the flat black Bombadill featured in a thread a while back? Brass was used on steamships not because it was fancy, but because it lasts. Sure brass is heavier than other

[RBW] Re: Rivs Mac's

2009-01-14 Thread Eric Norris
Three Macs, two iPhones, and five iPods. Two Rivs (Quickbeam and Road Standard). --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org On Jan 13, 2009, at 7:14 PM, CycloFiend wrote: This little thread popped up over on iBob, but thought it might be fun here, too. How

[RBW] Re: Brass Fenders at Soma Fab

2009-01-14 Thread Marty
You might have just talked me into it. That was my Bombadil you mentioned, and I was just debating fenders lately. Now it's between brass and the VO Zeppelins, which I think are pretty cool. I'm leaning toward brass... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this

[RBW] FS: Planet Bike Superflash tail light with rechargeable AAAs

2009-01-14 Thread PATRICK MOORE
1. New, mounted but never used, with chainstay and seatpost mounts and 2 rechargeable AAA batteris, $25 shipped CONUS. I just ordered (from The Touring Store) a BM 4D Toplight for the Fly. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed

[RBW] Re: Rivs Mac's

2009-01-14 Thread Bill Connell
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:24 PM, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 1/14/09 7:10 AM, Bill Connell at bconn...@gmail.com wrote: It's interesting to think of computers and bikes in the sense of openness. I prefer the Mac by far, but i recognize that there are aspects of it that

[RBW] Re: Jimmy Carter's Bikes Nabbed

2009-01-14 Thread Weird Harold
I emailed Grant. He said the stolen bikes weren't Rivendells. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To

[RBW] Re: Brass Fenders at Soma Fab

2009-01-14 Thread JoelMatthews
Cool. The Zeppelins are pretty nice as well. My first fenders were hammered. I have since come to prefer the smooth or fluted look. Brass, especially as it weathers provides a most interesting variation. On Jan 14, 12:10 pm, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: You might have just talked me into it.

[RBW] Re: Brass Fenders at Soma Fab

2009-01-14 Thread Marty
If I'm lucky, Honjo will deliver on the brass fluted fenders they have out there as prototypes. Smooth is fine, but the ridges (wrinkles/ facets?) may age more gracefully. Brass Zeppelins would get my money today! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message

[RBW] Re: Brass Fenders at Soma Fab

2009-01-14 Thread Esteban
Marty - tell us more - as this is the first I've heard of Honjo's efforts in brass... On Jan 14, 11:25 am, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: If I'm lucky, Honjo will deliver on the brass fluted fenders they have out there as prototypes. Smooth is fine, but the ridges (wrinkles/ facets?) may age

[RBW] Re: Brass Fenders at Soma Fab

2009-01-14 Thread Marty
Here's what I know - now you know! http://somafab.blogspot.com/2008/09/brass-honjos.html --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: FS: Planet Bike Superflash tail light with rechargeable AAAs

2009-01-14 Thread Jim Bronson
Did the SuperFlash go up in price? I only paid $19 for mine, new. On 1/14/09, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: 1. New, mounted but never used, with chainstay and seatpost mounts and 2 rechargeable AAA batteris, $25 shipped CONUS. I just ordered (from The Touring Store) a BM 4D

[RBW] visiting california

2009-01-14 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I'm going to be staying in Vista, CA March 12-16. Aside from a family thing on the 14th, I plan to ride my Atlantis everyday, hopefully at least once or twice in a social setting. Hope to catch up with some of the SoCal RBW folk during my visit.

[RBW] Re: FS: Planet Bike Superflash tail light with rechargeable AAAs

2009-01-14 Thread PATRICK MOORE
But yours didn't come with rechargeable batteries and shipping. On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote: Did the SuperFlash go up in price? I only paid $19 for mine, new. On 1/14/09, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: 1. New, mounted but never used,

[RBW] Re: Big A. Homer Hilsen Question

2009-01-14 Thread d2mini
Remember, Riv sizes a little on the large size. I ended up going down a size on my second one and I'm very happy with it. So unless you are on the high end of a 69 or maybe even close to needing a larger size, i'd probably choose the 67. On Jan 13, 1:40 pm, Elfardo clifwrightpho...@yahoo.com

[RBW] Re: visiting california

2009-01-14 Thread Dustin Sharp
I'm hoping I'll be back from a trip to Sierra Leone and Liberia in time to join in, but I definitely think we should shoot for another SoCal Riv ride during that time. Even if we don't manage to rustle up a quorum, I'd be happy to explore some of San Diego county's country back roads with you

[RBW] Re: visiting california

2009-01-14 Thread Doug Peterson
How about we plan a ride for Sunday 15th for the So Cal Rivendell Riders Friends? dougP -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 1:28 PM To: RBW

[RBW] Re: Rivs Mac's

2009-01-14 Thread Curtis Schmitt
Computers: I've been a Mac user since 1990. I have a MacBook Pro w/ hi-res 17 glossy display and a Mac Pro at home, and a Mac Pro at the office, plus an iPhone 3G. I'm one of a very small group of architects using VectorWorks on the Mac. Most are forced to use a PC because they're stuck in the

[RBW] Re: Rivs Mac's

2009-01-14 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Curtis Schmitt curtisrschm...@gmail.comwrote: Bicycles: All fixed gears: a Riv QB 60, Kogswell G 58, Peter Mooney 57 single speed (running fixed), EAI BareKnuckle 54 and a Soma Rush 56. Good man! Would you care to post photos? Thanks. Patrick like fixed

[RBW] Re: Brass Fenders at Soma Fab

2009-01-14 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Here's what I know - now you know! http://somafab.blogspot.com/2008/09/brass-honjos.html I'm no metalurgist: how sturdy -- ie, resistant to dents and to permanent bending -- is brass compared to aluminum? The alum fenders I own

[RBW] Re: visiting california

2009-01-14 Thread Esteban
Hopefully I can make it back from the Bay Area for the ride. Sounds fun. Ides indeed. On Jan 14, 3:25 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: The Ides! On Jan 14, 5:15 pm, Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: How about we plan a ride for Sunday 15th for the So Cal

[RBW] Here we go--final build list

2009-01-14 Thread John Ferguson
Here it is, the final build list. My frame arrives on the 20th, so I’m going to occupy myself by partially assembling the crank and polishing my fenders. And removing the ugly logo from the SS water bottles. Thanks again for your help! I might document this on my website. Bound to be a disaster

[RBW] Re: Rivs Mac's

2009-01-14 Thread Elton Pope-Lance
This is nuts!. . . 6 Rivs (+ 1 on order) 2 Macs 1 Lo Prinzi Feels like the right ratio to me. . . -Elton P-L Two Rivs (one Quickbeam for me, one Ram for my wife); three Macs (if you count the ancient ibook); two Martin guitars (does that relate?). On Jan 14, 3:11 am, k5osx

[RBW] Re: FS: Planet Bike Superflash tail light with rechargeable AAAs

2009-01-14 Thread Jim Bronson
True, so what is the miliamp hour rating on the batteries? What brand? On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 3:53 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: But yours didn't come with rechargeable batteries and shipping. On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote: Did the

[RBW] Re: Big A. Homer Hilsen Question

2009-01-14 Thread Doug Van Cleve
I respectfully disagree that RBW designs run large. I have a nearly decade old now Road Standard that is a 55cm and it could easily be 1cm taller and standover etc. would be fine. I briefly contemplated getting a Bleriot, and I was between recommended sizes but standover would have been okay on

[RBW] Re: Brass Fenders at Soma Fab

2009-01-14 Thread benzzoy
On Jan 14, 3:56 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I'm no metalurgist: how sturdy -- ie, resistant to dents and to permanent bending -- is brass compared to aluminum? The alum fenders I own are very stiff and dent resistant. It depends on how thick they make the fender. According

[RBW] Re: fenders off road?

2009-01-14 Thread David Estes
I rode my Bleriot everywhere w/ Honjos, no problemo... http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/1562380216/in/set-72157602404121251/ On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 7:52 AM, John McMurry johnmcmu...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 14, 12:47 am, J L subfas...@gmail.com wrote: My Saluki has been seeing

[RBW] Re: visiting california

2009-01-14 Thread David Estes
I des so... On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: Hopefully I can make it back from the Bay Area for the ride. Sounds fun. Ides indeed. On Jan 14, 3:25 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: The Ides! On Jan 14, 5:15 pm, Doug

[RBW] Re: Rivs Mac's

2009-01-14 Thread David Estes
for the win! On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Elton Pope-Lance el...@pope-lance.comwrote: This is nuts!. . . 6 Rivs (+ 1 on order) 2 Macs 1 Lo Prinzi Feels like the right ratio to me. . . -Elton P-L Two Rivs (one Quickbeam for me, one Ram for my wife); three Macs (if you count

[RBW] Re: Brass Fenders at Soma Fab

2009-01-14 Thread Bill M.
I think Wiki's a bit off on the metal densities. This chart: http://www.simetric.co.uk/si_metals.htm says brass is on the order of 10% heavier than stainless steel. That would make sense, as both copper and zinc (the two elements that make up most of brass) have higher atomic numbers and

[RBW] Re: Brass Fenders at Soma Fab

2009-01-14 Thread Horace
I know there are wooden fenders out there. Does anyone make titanium fenders? Carbon fiber/kevlar/Spectra composite? Berthoud makes carbon fiber fenders. http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/berthoud.asp --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because