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Hey there Patrick -
I think it's a notch or two past what should be posted here. If it's a
shop that has a used Rivendell on the blocks, that's one thing, but we've
generally kept things to either those bikes personally owned by group
members and are generally Rivendellian in nature, or are
+1 for RAGBRAI The event has to be at, or around, or just past its
fortieth anniversary.
I'm doing my first RAGBRAI tour this year, and I'm thinking this Red Riv
will be a sweet companion.
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On Thu, 2013-04-11 at 19:59 -0700, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote:
Any fit based on measurements, whether with a tape measure or a body scanner
with laser beams, is merely a starting point, since no two humans are alike.
But the market for this kind of service is the elite cyclist. By
On Fri, 2013-04-12 at 05:27 -0700, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote:
Nobody disagrees that having good ergonomics can improve performance. But is
there a meaningful difference between the fit achieved by making measurements
in a low tech way, and the fit achieved by laser-guided body scans?
Indeed.
My Kellogg / Spectrum 30th Anniversary is definitely the most comfortable
bike I have owned. Tom Kellogg (who has a long standing relationship with
Seven and consults with them on fit and materials questions) uses a crusty
old Serotta stationary bike and a face to face interview to
I will be upfront and totally honest on this one. I used to work part time
for Roll:
and even more honest, that's me in the green shirt on their webpage (from
years ago)
http://roll-online.com/articles/roll-perfect-fit-pg154.htm
Not being 100% sure on how the computer was programmed, but I will
Yeah, they add a lot more weight than comfort in my 150 pound experience...
Steve
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Michael,
Just something to chew on for you. I made the same swap you're
considering. Those springs are really stiff. If you're a
I will be upfront and totally honest on this one.
So every other post of yours without this pronouncement is less than
upfront and honest? Grin.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Friday, April 12, 2013 6:47:24 AM UTC-6, Skenry wrote:
I will be upfront and totally honest on this one. I used to work
Yep ... bike fit and feel is entirely subjective. There is just no
formulas for the nuances of the human mind .. and we sure as heck are not
human machines , so please ... don't treat them as such !!
I had a fitting once for a custom frame on a adjustable bike with some sort
of computer
not a riv answer, but my buddy fixed his similar problem by lengthening the
cable housing to his derailleur. Frame flex and short housing (pinch or
stretch?) combined to cause his autoshifting.
On Thursday, April 11, 2013 11:33:23 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
Before you decide it's a bad
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote:
Yep ... bike fit and feel is entirely subjective.
Is that true? Then lower (or raise) your saddle by 3, move it forward (or
back) by 2, think some powerfully good thoughts, and ride: if it all is
subjective -- by which you mean
Yeah, but how would you get off it! They really didn't sweat standover
back then did they...B-)
Steve
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 12:12 AM, Amit Singh asd...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd ride that!
On Wednesday, 10 April 2013 17:58:15 UTC-4, jbu...@gmail.com wrote:
Could it be?!?
I've gotten pretty good over the years at sizing people up by just looking at
them and using intuition/experience. Even when I worked at a bigger shop where
we charged a steep fee for a seemingly sophisticated black-box fitting, much of
the time changes to saddle position or stem length were
Local-to-Jim-and-I bike builder Chris Kvale checks rider fit by going on a bike
ride with the customer to get an idea of riding style, position issues, etc.
The problem with bike fitting by measuring body parts is that bike fit is a
dynamic rather than static thing.
On Apr 12, 2013, at 7:47
While I have never had a fitting done the dynamic v static theme seems
accurate. I have ridden the same bike on the road and on the trainer at
home and the feel is totally different.
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote:
Local-to-Jim-and-I bike builder Chris
On Fri, 2013-04-12 at 06:24 -0700, Garth wrote:
Yep ... bike fit and feel is entirely subjective. There is just no
formulas for the nuances of the human mind .. and we sure as heck are
not human machines , so please ... don't treat them as such !!
I'm with Patrick on this: it's definitely
Yesterday was gorgeous day; today it is raining and thundering. After
wrapping the Albatross bars on the Motobecane Super Mirage, I went for an
early morning ride. The weather and the ride were perfect. However this
makeover and ride would not have happened without the inspiration and
It is a mental game, for sure. I don't believe anybody when they tell me their
bike is comfortable. Is it really? Compared to what? I can't count the times a
customer on a horrible fitting bike tells me his/her bike fits well. I say, ok,
try this, and pull out a stock bike that's at least close
How one FEELS on a bike , is Entirely subjective !Since the days of
following bike racing as a kid I recall the lamenting over certain
riders, Sean Kelley comes to mind. The bike fit experts said his seat
was way too low, he was too scrunched ... etc. etc. Yet it worked
for
Hey, Jim. Let me know when your Roll Body Scanner comes in at HC. I'd like
to schedule an appointment to better dial in the Ogre.
Thanks!
Shaun
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote:
How one FEELS on a bike , is Entirely subjective !Since the days of
following
This makes more sense -- I generally agree. But I would insist that the
object an subject aspects go hand in hand without either one being
negligible. After all, what we feel is due to what is out there -- in
this case, how our bikes are set up. I bet Voigt was cursing a blue streak
as he pedaled
Nice bike; I love the clean lines, and the endless good stories of recycled
bicycles . . . what long lives these wonderful machines do have! Aren't
bicycles among our best mechanical inventions?
On Friday, April 12, 2013 9:47:42 AM UTC-4, WETH wrote:
Yesterday was gorgeous day; today it is
I notice that bikes new and used often come without saddles and pedals, and
I have a pedal choice to make. I've moved beyond clipless (carbon no
mas!), though not necessarily beyond clips/straps or Power Grips; riding
naked feels funny after so many years of being at least in clips
straps,
On Fri, 2013-04-12 at 07:13 -0700, Garth wrote:
How one FEELS on a bike , is Entirely subjective !Since the days
of following bike racing as a kid I recall the lamenting over
certain riders, Sean Kelley comes to mind. The bike fit experts
said his seat was way too low, he was too
On Fri, 2013-04-12 at 07:20 -0700, Tom Goodmann wrote:
Aren't bicycles among our best mechanical inventions?
Absolutely!
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I LOVED that movie Patrick Aahahahahaahah !
It IS a MAd Mad MAD MAD World Inded !
http://youtu.be/GiNrMy0nxWw?t=42s
On Friday, April 12, 2013 10:19:51 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
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On Fri, 2013-04-12 at 07:26 -0700, Tom Goodmann wrote:
I notice that bikes new and used often come without saddles and
pedals, and I have a pedal choice to make. I've moved beyond clipless
(carbon no mas!), though not necessarily beyond clips/straps or Power
Grips; riding naked feels funny
I recently received a sale catalog from a local bike chain. I found it
interesting that nearly every bike description in there mentioned
comfort... from $300 upright hybrids to $10,000 low-bar'd road bikes. They
even have some bikes supposedly built for the BORAF that don't sacrifice
comfort.
The Gimli Axe heads, err Grip Kings (
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/pe1.htm) are my favorite for comfort. For
brisker riding, I like the MKS Touring Lite or GR-9 (which really do better
with a clip or a power grip strap).
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Tom Goodmann tgoodm...@gmail.com
Checking the tightness of the freehub involves removing the axle and then
using a hex wrench to tighten the freehub body into the hub body.
You do need a fairly big, honking hex wrench, but the task is very straight
forward.
Good call on the spacer.
Also - I've pulled lodged pebbles and
I don't know that I've ever seen a freehub that loosened itself. A loosened
cone sometimes looks like a loose freehub, though.
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In the words of Stevil, one of my favorite blogging cyclist, My 100% not
giving a s$t beats your 8% faster.
Get the sticker here:
http://market.allhailtheblackmarket.com/market/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=2products_id=79
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Aaron (and whoever)... I am under strict orders to have Manny back in his
room at or before 2:59pm. I'm aiming to be back in downtown PDX about 2 to
allow time to be fashionably late and still make the deadline. Hopefully
that works with your few hours constraint.
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Me too. Love my grip kings. For awhile I was swapping between sylvans
with clips and the grip kings. In comparison, the rat trap.clip loads all
through the ball of your foot. The longer grip kings use your entire foot
- heel to ball, and it changes your riding position, or at least gives
Great job - beautiful bike
you'll have no problem with Fenders.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-zZ3aH9BSIUo/UWGHD7WR_MI/AlM/EQThYrgI4eE/s1600/aP4070007.JPG
your brakes, like mine, were made for fenders - Honjos work great.
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Current favorites are the VP Vice and VP-001. The latter is marketed by RBW
as the Thin Gripsters.
On Friday, April 12, 2013 10:25:18 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
Me too. Love my grip kings. For awhile I was swapping between sylvans
with clips and the grip kings. In comparison, the rat
The MKS RMX Riv sells. They're almost too inexpensive to be taken seriously
as real pedals, but I have them on all my bikes. They work.
On Friday, April 12, 2013 8:25:18 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:
Me too. Love my grip kings. For awhile I was swapping between sylvans
with clips and the grip
Steve: what are the differences (in feel, performance, durability) between,
say, the M540 and the 959 and 747? I take it that these last are the XTR
and XT versions?
Some time ago I had the 959 of the period, but can't say I remember any
difference over, say, my very early '90s 540s.
For the
Love me some Motobecane. I rebuilt a Nomade II last year and almost kept
it as it fit me to a T but with too many bikes I sold it on CL. Hoping
to find a nice Grand Touring or Jubilee in need of TLC one of these days.
On Friday, April 12, 2013 6:47:42 AM UTC-7, WETH wrote:
Yesterday was
a couple of choices on bottle cage straps - the old TA ones turn up on ebay
frequently - they are metal, and strap the cage directly to your frame.
The Elite VIP works quite well -
http://www.treefortbikes.com/product/333222358075/813/Elite-VIP-Universal-Cage.htm
I'm with Patrick on this: it's definitely not all in your head. There's
physical stuff involved, too. Best intentions in the world won't make a
size 38 shoe fit a size 48 foot.
But you do not need a laser analysis to tell you that a size 38 shoe fits a
size 48 foot, right?
I was not
I'm finicky about fit because I'm very prone to ulnar nerve palsy and
wrist and thumb tendinitis if the bar and saddle aren't just right.
Also, too low a bar can very quickly give me a lot of neck pain because
I've got osteoarthritis issues there.
Are you saying the laser fit systems
Thought I'd chime in with my favorite pedals and clips.
I think that the White Industries Urban Platform Pedals with Bruce Gordon
Stainless Strapless Toe Clips are the best combination I have ever used for
street shoes.
http://brucegordoncycles.bigcartel.com/product/white-industries-pedals-with-
no wonder, those are gorgeous - the much higher end version of the MKS GR-9
and strapless clips I put on my daughter's bike.
On Friday, April 12, 2013 9:26:06 AM UTC-5, Tom Goodmann wrote:
I notice that bikes new and used often come without saddles and pedals,
and I have a pedal choice to
On Friday, April 12, 2013 7:34:12 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
On Fri, 2013-04-12 at 07:26 -0700, Tom Goodmann wrote:
I notice that bikes new and used often come without saddles and
pedals, and I have a pedal choice to make. I've moved beyond clipless
(carbon no mas!), though not
Concur with Bruce Gordon!
I have White and the Bruce Gordon Strapless. I use the regular fit clip in
nice weather and boot fit during the winter. Sublime.
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Agree with Garth. A bike fitting system is fine to get you started but after
decades of riding, the last thing I need is a computer or expert telling me how
to do it right.
A young rider recently asked me about saddle height. I had to stop and think of
all the different theories (fashions)
MKS Touring. Wide enough to support my whole foot. I have used them with toe
clips (no straps) and they keep my foot in place fine.
Lately I have been using no toe clips. Just bare pedal. So far, so good.
I have stopped using clipless because I like wearing normal shoes to ride.
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Thanks to all for the fine suggestions; I'm most likely to stay clipless,
though am now aware of the wide rider support for SPDs. It''ll be good to
try out some options (and Grip Kings are coming on one of those already
built Sams on sale; I had already ordered the frame on sale, and just went
VP Gripsters without a doubt. No need for straps and comfortable over the long
haul. Work well with Sambas.
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Tom, I wear Merrells when I ride my grip kings - the soles bite like steel
cleats, even in the wet.
On Friday, April 12, 2013 12:21:57 PM UTC-5, Tom Goodmann wrote:
Thanks to all for the fine suggestions; I'm most likely to stay clipless,
though am now aware of the wide rider support for
My concern is sinking time, effort and cash into a rear wheel that I'm not
in love with. Digging into the freehub myself to try to solve this
issue is beyond my skill level and comfort zone. I brought the wheel in to
Jim and Mark at Hiawatha Cyclery a while back to inquire about putting in a
The VP-001 (Thin Gripsters) are my favorite. I had been using Grip Kings
on most of my bikes, but the VP's are taking over. I am even trying a set
on my Karate Monkey right now. After riding clipless for 20 years on my
mountain bikes, it took a few rides to get used to, but the VP's haven't
I think with 90% certainty that your new purchase is a 1997 Road Standard.
I think LongLows, if they made them that year could have had canti bosses
as an option , and I believe lugs were less ornate...similar lugs to the
A/R.
But it's Waterford-built and I can see the Reynold 531 decal on
I've successfully used the right size of hose clamp on a standard metal
cage -- better than any effete zip tie!
Patrick Moore, who, if truly reasonable, would use hose clamps on his '99
custom fixie gofast that, stupidly, he asked Grant to build with only one
set of cage braze ons -- but
I just put the vp vice pedals on a bike and like them a lot.
Dan Abelson
St. Paul, MN
On Apr 12, 2013 9:26 AM, Tom Goodmann tgoodm...@gmail.com wrote:
I notice that bikes new and used often come without saddles and pedals,
and I have a pedal choice to make. I've moved beyond clipless (carbon
I've tired all sorts of platform pedals, and my favorite are the RMX
Sneaker pedals. They have just the right amount of grip, and they're the
perfect width and length. They don't work for me in the rain, though. For
rainy riding, I use BMX pedals with pins, but those are too grippy for me
Just about to start shellacking the tape and twine and thought I'd send
along a fast picture as it's been awhile.
Thank you to everyone in the group for the ideas, feedback and fostering
the obsession.
David
DMR Vault platform pedals. The first pedal ever to not cause foot pain. Riding
then on Keen Coronado Cruiser sneakers that have a more rigid sole.
No pain, lots of gains!
René
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On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Bryan bwedg...@hotmail.com wrote:
I've tired all
Yet another VP thin gripster devotee. Have them on my Hillborne and LHT.
Second place for the MKS sneaker pedals. Which are on my SimpleOne.
May try MKS sneakers on the Hillborne this summer when wearing the thinner
Keen sandals. Have a spare pair lying around.
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
On
If you have bigger feet, you might like the MKS Custom Nuevo Wide as seen
here:
http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=13313
or here, with some XL Bruce Gordon clips:
http://www.cord.edu/faculty/sprunger/bikes/riv1334/pedal2.jpg
I tried the Whites, but they felt
After nearly 3 years of thinking about it I just put the order in, + a
110 mm stem vs 80 with Noodles.
Should be waiting for my in Baltimore next month and installed as soon
after that as I get around to it.
Hope they are worth the wait :)
Jay
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$45 shipped.
Standard Brompton OEM pedals. Left one folds, right one doesn't.
Replaced with MKS after maybe 200 km.
Riv content - proceeds will help fund/justify Alba bars for my Sam.
Jay
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I liked mine on my Hunq so much I bought some for my Quickbeam as well.
They're super.
Aloha,
Bob
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Jay in Tel Aviv jayin...@gmail.comwrote:
After nearly 3 years of thinking about it I just put the order in, + a
110 mm stem vs 80 with Noodles.
Should be
Ron, thanks for the verification on fenders.
Ron and Patrick, Thanks for the suggestions for attaching bottle cages. It is
always nice to have options.
Many thanks and safe cycling,
Erl
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I bought the Trunksack for my wife's bike. I added a Pletscher rack to hold it.
Pictures prove mail moves fast in Indiana Riv has beautiful bags made.
http://m.flickr.com/photos/ericgnolan/8643253417/
Eric
Indpls, IN
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Looks nice on her bike. I was tempted; interestingly I was toying with buying
it and placing it on a pletscher rack, too.
I am sure she will like it.
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I used to like BMX pedals or the MKS sylvans, but I have rubber block
pedals on all my bikes now because they don't tear up my shoes, which often
times have leather soles (moccasins). My current fav is the wellgo
LU-868 pedal.
Scot:
Bear in mind this bike is for her. Unless she has a special spot in her
heart for a Bridgestone, it may be just an old bike to her. A brand new
squeaky clean with new tire smell bike is pretty attractive to anyone,
especially the recreational rider who is not a bike nerd. Jim's point
Manny's photo talent has been a pleasure to enjoy on this forum. Good to
see the wider world will get to enjoy his work. Thanks again Manny!
dougP
On Wednesday, April 10, 2013 10:16:14 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:
there is, it's accessible at the Soma Fab site
Another idea would be to search New Old Stock on eBay. I bought a 1996 Trek 930
brand new in the box for $150. Put on a B-17 and rack that I already owned and
bought a pair of fenders, tires, and albatross bars from Riv. Couldn't be
happier with the bike and it cost less than $300 total. A
Finding and buying and fixing old bikes is a hobby, it as a very different one
than riding bikes. Riding a bike can be transportation, exercise, a hobby or
any combination but it is very different than finding, buying and fixing bikes.
If your girlfriend wants something cool to ride, I'd
Forwarding from the Rando list. Interesting from the many Rivs with Suntour
components...
Brian Hanson
Seattle, Wa
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From: Jenny Oh Hatfield platt...@gmail.com
Date: April 12, 2013, 9:36:27 AM HST
To: ran...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Randon] Suntour is back says
Alright! A Baltimore-Israel connection! You have family here, or just visiting?
My Great Uncle moved to Israel from Bmore back in '29, I believe.
His descendants are still there.
My late Grandmother (his sister) stayed in Bmore and left descendants scattered
around the east coast of the USA now.
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