I have Paul Racers on my 650b-converted Riv Road Standard frame.
They look great, but still need some fine tuning.
1) How do I increase the mechanical advantage? I have too little, as
described by Sheldon Brown http://sheldonbrown.com/canti-trad.html.
A brake system with too little mechanical
On Monday, March 16, 2015 at 10:19:21 PM UTC-4, Mike Schiller wrote:
I would be shocked if they are really straight gauge tubing. That would
add unnecessary weight without benefit and totally change the riding
characteristics. He has to be kidding!
Why? They told me straight 8, they
Yep, and I doubt those are flying off the shelves either. Even though it's
a better looking watch than the Shinolas, and half the price.
I can appreciate Grant's affinity for fine watches, axes, et al, though
that affinity seems a bit retro-grouchy. I'm not buying them, but some
folks are.
What y'all talking about? I don't see any downtube artwork anywhere.
On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 7:30:50 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
I presume Clementine has it's own decal and head badge, but what do I
know? I really hope it has A tough bike to love on it! That's brilliant.
With
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Throw a pitlock skewer in there and you've got an instant cafe lock.
Anton
On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 11:25:29 AM UTC-4, Rod C wrote:
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Yesterday's email, Joe. Pictures, coupon, the works!
With abandon,
Patrick
On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 9:43:19 AM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote:
What y'all talking about? I don't see any downtube artwork anywhere.
On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 7:30:50 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
I presume
I've never really figured this out well enough to have a strong opinion
about it, and I think about it *all the time*. I do prefer short
chainstays on really technical descents and on slow, rocky trails, for the
way they allow me to get my weight back over the rear wheel and un-weight
the
We have a 58 cm and 47 cm Atlantis, so we get a few cute couple
comments. Since she got her mini-Lantis, my wife's interest in riding has
increased immensely.
dougP
On Monday, March 16, 2015 at 1:51:15 PM UTC-7, Liesl wrote:
Between my partner and I, there are 5 Rivs in our basement.
I also put the TRP CX8.4s on my wife's Atlantis with 26 x 1.5 tires. No
fenders plenty of clearance. I liked it so much I considered doing the
same thing to my old MTB with 26 x 2 Schwalbes. The wire would have just
touched the tire, and would not have worked with knobs or fenders. It came
Through Bill's tough bike to love thread, I just realized that I'd missed
this month's and last month's Rivendell *Monthly Update* emails. Seems a
few others have had the same problem. I figured I'd accidentally clicked
on an unsubscribe link at some point, but that appears not to be the
Not quite - 8.4's are meant for SRAM, cx9's are meant for Shimano. My dad
runs cx9's with Ultegra brifters. They work better than my SRAM/cx8.4
combo.
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:20 PM, Brewster Fong bfd...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 1:31:54 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:
I also
Regarding butted tubing, here's an interesting old pre-Blug blog post I
saved long ago. Not sure if it exists still (it does
http://rivbike.tumblr.com/newsarchive!). Some earlier thoughts from
Riv/Grant on straight gauge tubing.
Best,
joe broach
pdx or
The T:T Faqtor?March 23, 2010
It’s the
In addition., while I have canti's on three bikes I have been lusting after
the improved power of v brakes. I'd take Pauls recco and go Moto lite
On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 2:59:39 PM UTC-7, Kurt Manley wrote:
What type of brake levers are you planning on running?
The motolites that Paul
I was wondering what this thread was about. I figured Bill had visited
headquarters or something. I seem to have fallen off the list, too.
Didn't get last month's either. What IS up with that?! Maybe we both
accidentally hit unsubscribe links?
On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 10:32:43 AM
On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 1:31:54 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:
I also put the TRP CX8.4s on my wife's Atlantis with 26 x 1.5 tires. No
fenders plenty of clearance. I liked it so much I considered doing the
same thing to my old MTB with 26 x 2 Schwalbes. The wire would have just
touched
What type of brake levers are you planning on running?
The motolites that Paul recommended are long pull, all the others are short
pull. The mini motos are designed so you can run a linear pull brake with
an sti or other short pull lever without using an adapter. Unless you're
running short
For those interested in this sort of thing I noticed that you can get paleo
themed ebooks today for a buck, including Sisson's Primal Connections.
Since he is one of Grant's sources I decided I could afford 0.99. :-)
Here's the link to the buck books site: http://buckbooks.net/nonfiction/
The
On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 10:15:22 AM UTC-7, Leslie wrote:
On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 1:03:32 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
the subject line of the email is Postcard from Taiwan. Check your junk
mail?
Oh, uh well, I'm pretty regular at hitting the delete spam button, so
On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 1:03:32 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
the subject line of the email is Postcard from Taiwan. Check your junk
mail?
Oh, uh well, I'm pretty regular at hitting the delete spam button, so
if it was in there, it's long gone
Glad for the redundancy
Lower straddle is more mechanical advantage. The response is slight
On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 10:31:01 AM UTC-7, Tim Gavin wrote:
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.com
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Tim
For the most part you are stuck with the mechanical advantage
Hi Benz,
I'd love to hear your cleaning process--maybe I could be reformed. I used
to keep my bikes a lot tidier when I lived in a dry place like Sunnyvale.
All it took was a wipe down every couple of weeks. Some of us in rainy
places just give up. There just isn't much point when the next
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
Tim
For the most part you are stuck with the mechanical advantage you've got.
You can influence it a tiny bit with straddle height, but centerpulls, just
like wide profile cantilevers are pretty flat in that respect.
Sorry, but that BS is way over the top. He lost me when he played the
race card.
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:18 PM, Justin August
justin.aug...@icloud.com wrote:
http://four-pins.com/style/shinola-detroits-misguided-white-knight/
This captures my feelings.
-J
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Jagwire road pad holders for cantilevers,
I use them with Paul CP brakes.
http://jagwire.com/products/v/cross_pro
Levers are 9 speed Ergos, yes they do have the higher ma,
slighty mush feel, compared to dual pivots.
Mine are braze on, 1st version.
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That was correct when the blog post was written in 2014. The $1000 Detroit
Arrow model is new. I thought the blog author wasn't too far off.
Shinola was just starting up when the blog post was written. The new $1k
bike shows far from being a fly by night Shinola investors appear to be
Benz, you sound like the Angry Asian.
I dislike cleaning bikes myself, so I don't do it often, but fortunately it
is rare that I get caught in heavy rain or slush or snow. I do clean the
bike when it gets really dirty from such rides.
However, I *always* keep my drivetrain and working parts in
In Just Ride Grant says, and I'm paraphrasing here, Once a year I knock off
the big chunks of grime. I was overjoyed when I read that. I clean my bike
more than once a year, probably 2 or 3 good cleanings a season, but I still
feel like that is time I could have been riding instead. I keep my
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I hope in my original post I didn't give the impression that I haven't
cleaned my bike in 8 years (though the guys at Recycled Cyles may
disagree!). I, too, am an oil every link guy and cannot
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I hope in my original post I didn't give the impression that I haven't
cleaned my bike in 8 years (though the guys at Recycled Cyles may
disagree!). I, too, am an oil every link guy and cannot
I like your stainless, fillet-brazed Clockwork bike.
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks, My steel bike Jones has not waned a bit ten years now.
On Monday, March 16, 2015 at 12:22:27 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
Wow your photo log is a real treat
I'm not sure the super-duper-long chainstays would do well on MTB material.
I could be wrong..
KJ
On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 6:40:11 PM UTC-4, A. L Young wrote:
Are there headbadge photos somewhere? A man-hole cover seems to come to
mind for the Clem Jr. (Btw, do an image search for
That's a good idea, maybe I will try to make it out to HQ soon. I hear the
52 Clem is built for me to enjoy.
On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 2:10:42 PM UTC-7, iamkeith wrote:
I was wondering what this thread was about. I figured Bill had visited
headquarters or something. I seem to have
BTW, do a Google Image Search for Clem Smith Jr and you'll see the
headbadge. I don't know if the step through variant will have different
decals or headbadge
On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 3:40:11 PM UTC-7, A. L Young wrote:
Are there headbadge photos somewhere? A man-hole cover seems to
That second photo of the dogs is too cute. They look happy as clams doing
the work they were bred to do!
Anton
On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 6:30:14 PM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote:
They step in unison, too, as you can see in the picture.
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I'm glad you seem to have solved the problem Patrick. I tore the Hilsen apart
two or three weeks ago and gave it a good cleaning (it's filthy again!) I had
one good, long, 75 mile ride and since then it has been acting up. Kind of a
skip or ghost shift in the drivetrain. In the past that has
They step in unison, too, as you can see in the picture.
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Good find, Tim! For something as mechanically simple as a bicycle, it
sure is hard to pinpoint some things!
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thanks joe,
awesome reference. exactly the kind of stated reasoning i was hoping for.
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Are there headbadge photos somewhere? A man-hole cover seems to come to
mind for the Clem Jr. (Btw, do an image search for man hole cover - it's
surprisingly cool.) I'm not sure a Clementine would look nice with a
man-hole cover badge though.
Related: I've been thinking of setting up a
No reason at all. Mountain bikes with dropped toptubes came about as a
result of road-style configurations being too tall for safe dirt riding. A
Clementine with all that stepover room would be great in the dirt,
especially with that long tail to smooth out the bumps, and prevent
wheelies
I've got my 63cm Hilsen and 58 Hunqapillar with me while I work in CT. When I
go home I have the 63cm Roadeo, which I'm planning on riding in the KC 300K in
April. What did the old times sailors say, A port in every storm. I'm
thinking my next Riv will either be a Quickbeam/SimpleOne or an
On 03/17/2015 10:14 AM, Ron Mc wrote:
Maybe you're running pressures too high. In about 3000 miles I
flatted two P-Rs. One was a Y-shaped stick in a pile of chert - that
destroyed the tire (I had a fold up). The second was bailing wire on
the road. Glued the tear in the tire with
Tim
For the most part you are stuck with the mechanical advantage you've got.
You can influence it a tiny bit with straddle height, but centerpulls,
just like wide profile cantilevers are pretty flat in that respect.
Straddle height does a little but not a lot. Brakelevers have an effect,
Note that my comment, he may be right about the non-bike stuff, is not
related to anything of a racial nature that fellow brought up. It's quite
far off the topic of this list, and I chose not to address it.
On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 10:41:30 AM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote:
Sorry, but that
It *is* someone on the list. Thanks for sharing and participating!
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im thinking it helps with stiffness under weight and dent resistance? it
would be interesting to hear the impetus or thought process behind the
change.
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The difference is about 7 oz for a 60 cm bike ( the .8 mm straight tube
weighs more). But the bike will also be stiffer riding as a butted tube is
more flexible. But since the diameter is smaller the increase in stiffness
is less than similar diameter tubes.
~mike
On Tuesday, March 17, 2015
At the risk of getting kicked out of this group, I will state that I don't
know why people don't clean their bikes more often. As the saying goes,
cleanliness is next to godliness, and in the case of bikes, being clean
will improve overall operating performance and thus riding satisfaction.
Patrick, I've wondered the same thing, and am glad you reminded me to try
it out. I hope you will post about your experiment.
Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas
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Nice, Liesl. I have a one-Riv household and it's most likely to stay that way.
But as I get into riding more, I will be tempted to build up my Ti road frame
into a go-fast bike again; I'd really like to convert it to 650b. Just an idle
question: isn't there a lot of overlap between your
Well, My wife and kids saw that beastie and wanted it, so a large Shopsack
is on the way too. Oh! That'll be great for the wee one's clothes when we
are car camping! I may not get to perform my experiment. But it sounds
like they might! Grin.
With abandon,
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To share some information, since I suspect as the new Compass fat tires get
adopted, folks will have brake questions... My initial concern was clearing
P65 fenders.
I emailed Riv and Paul Industries. Brian at Riv, reco'd Shimano CX 70s.
Says he has them on 3 cycles. Paul Price was kind enough
The author may be right about the non-bike stuff, but he's in the
wilderness about Shinola bicycles.
Demonstrably so. The author says Shinola's least expensive bike is
$1950.00. Off by $950.00.
As for tubing, Waterford uses True Temper for a lot of its builds. Is
there any indication that
Hi Patrick,
Yes, you can strap the Shopsack onto a rear rack. It works fine for me if
the load is compressible (e.g., jacket, beach towel, etc.).
If you have room, you can strap a Wald basket and then put the Shopsack
into it. That'll probably work great with long chain stay bikes, like the
Will there be a separate Clementine decal /head badge?
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I presume Clementine has it's own decal and head badge, but what do I know?
I really hope it has A tough bike to love on it! That's brilliant.
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Och! Disregard everything I previously said. I should have looked up the
names of the brakes. I do not have the rakes being talked about there (I
have canti's) and thus have no business chiming in. My apologies!
With abandon (and humbling, inadvertent, disregard for reality),
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For what it's worth, I have TRP CX8.4's and they just brely clear
continental 35mm file-treads with some planet bike fenders. The brake cable
actually touches the fender. They are 8.4cm tall. Thinking I'll sell them
because they have such limited fender clearance.
Not to derail this...
The new bicycle quarterly mentions the new tires but they are not on the
website yet. There is a 26 x 55, 650b x 48, 700 x 35, and 26 x 32.
On the brake thing, I have the cx70's on my hunqapillar with 2.1 smart sams (no
fenders). Plenty of clearance, obviously. I've had some issues getting the
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 8:12 AM, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote:
The author may be right about the non-bike stuff, but he's in the
wilderness about Shinola bicycles.
Demonstrably so. The author says Shinola's least expensive bike is
$1950.00. Off by $950.00.
That was correct when
Maybe you're running pressures too high. In about 3000 miles I flatted two
P-Rs. One was a Y-shaped stick in a pile of chert - that destroyed the
tire (I had a fold up). The second was bailing wire on the road. Glued
the tear in the tire with zap-a-gap, and put an ounce of stans in the tube
I didn't get yesterday's email! What's up with that?!?!
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47Betty and 60Sam help us share good times and good memories.
57.5 Myster'aloosa comes together inconspicuously in the living room, while the
rest of the herd mills about impatiently.
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* And seriously, who cares about watches?*
Ahem ;-)
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/watch11.htm
On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 8:00:56 AM UTC-7, Tim Gavin wrote:
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The author may be right about the non-bike
I love cool watches, but they look silly on my skinny little arms. No
watches for me! :)
On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 8:45:27 AM UTC-7, Tim Gavin wrote:
Yep, and I doubt those are flying off the shelves either. Even though
it's a better looking watch than the Shinolas, and half the price.
agreed. those are the current specs and i think the weight difference is
probably minimal as well. what i'm more curious about is what the benefit
of straight 8 vs 9/6/9 is.
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Ah, that's in Promotions in my Gmail. I'll go take a look! :)
On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 8:46:26 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
Yesterday's email, Joe. Pictures, coupon, the works!
With abandon,
Patrick
On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 9:43:19 AM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote:
What y'all
Oh my, that's pretty. I was already leaning towards the blue, and now...oh
my! The little graphic above A Tough Bike To Love..that's an anvil, right?
On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 8:46:26 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
Yesterday's email, Joe. Pictures, coupon, the works!
With abandon,
Three Rivendells visible in this photo from my bike room/office: Quickbeam,
Bleriot, Riv Road Standard
https://flic.kr/p/rEACZR
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On Mar 17, 2015, at 9:40 AM, BenG
On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 12:32:43 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
I didn't get yesterday's email! What's up with that?!?!
I'd seen in via FB, but after reading your comment, realized I've not seen
it in email either yet. hmmm...
-L
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Would the straight tubing be stronger if you're going to add the diagonal
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Joe, I have skinny little arms, too but I get compliments on my $40 Timex.
It's sized proportionately to my arm. I'm so old that I'd much rather were a
watch than pull out a device and look at it. I like cool watches too but it's
certainly not a budget priority so I will just be content to
the subject line of the email is Postcard from Taiwan. Check your junk
mail?
On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 9:52:51 AM UTC-7, Leslie wrote:
On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 12:32:43 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
I didn't get yesterday's email! What's up with that?!?!
I'd seen in via FB, but after
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