[RBW] Re: Sam Frame on Ebay (need advice)

why is it shady? seems like priced to sell. I sold mine last year for a couple of hundred more, and I had dyno lights, racks, etc. On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 1:08:16 AM UTC-5, Antone Könst wrote: > > Dissuaded, thanks folks! Now that Riv. is doing financing via PayPal > thinking it might be

[RBW] Small Appaloosas going away

Oops When I typed Hillborne I was thinking Hilsen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

Re: [RBW] Current indexing systems and shifting in general, per the Knothole

I have two Campy Record Triple cranks that I run without outer rings to create ultra-compact doubles. 135 mm TA and Stronglight chainrings are available from XX Cycle in France. Bottom brackets are pretty scarce, though. The inner is a standard 74 mm ring. Many iBOB's will shudder at the

[RBW] HiRiser?

Eamon, I've found clamp-on cable hangers that are 22.2 diameter, to fit the quill. Sits right above the headset lock nut and looks perfectly fine. Versions that fit the steerer tube, under the locknut, are more common but the others are out there. -- You received this message because you

[RBW] Re: Sam Frame on Ebay (need advice)

I don't think that Cheviot listing looks shady either. The seller knows the original spelling of "Cheviot" which is different than the spelling on the bike. And it includes a little set of extras which are still in their Riv packing. I'm only a few miles west of the seller. Someone should buy

Re: [RBW] iBert with drops - workable?

Thanks for the pic Nhat. That looks like it would work better. Is it mounted to the top of your stem - which looks threadless? Do you think it would work on a threaded stem? On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 4:30 PM, Nhat Vu wrote: > I've tried drops with an iBert, but the fit was

Re: [RBW] Current indexing systems and shifting in general, per the Knothole

Yes, I don't just want, I *NEED* high-q. Low-q makes my knees hurt, all other things being equal. I've tried, believe me. I'm just big with big hips and my feet need to be farther apart than that. I use pedal extenders on top of having a high-q crank. Jim On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 9:32 AM,

[RBW] Re: Remember Good People, Steel is Real!

On Thursday, March 9, 2017 at 8:32:09 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: > > I know, Keith, I was just rolling with it. Right into a phone pole! Hope you were wearing that helment when you hit! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

[RBW] Re: Sam Frame on Ebay (need advice)

Example: ROUGH calculation to get a new Sam from RivHQ into Ontario, Canada $1300 frame + $100 shipping = $1400 USD = 1885.25 CAD (today's exchange rate) + 13% sales tax on import = $2130.33 CAD -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

[RBW] Re: Sam Frame on Ebay (need advice)

i would have zero hesitation to go check out that cheviot. the issue with pricing is the same one that is in the OP. If he sells it for near the same price of a new bike from Rivendell, most people will just get the new one. you have to discount a reasonable amount on any used thing, even if

[RBW] Re: New (to my wife) Betty Foy

nice! looks super good. the brooks C17 short versions are pretty nice, my gf likes it. On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 1:01:49 PM UTC-5, Daniel Betancourt wrote: > > I bought the frame, wheels, and brakes from another owner on this forum > earlier last month. I finally acquired all the needed

[RBW] Re: [socalallrounders] Re: 2017 Redlands Strada Rossa

Gonna' be a hot one, similar to first year. Highly recommend leaving with one of the early waves! https://www.wunderground.com/weather-forecast/92373 On Sunday, March 5, 2017 at 11:26:47 AM UTC-8, Doug Peterson wrote: > > Dave: > > I'll be there with 7 of my local friends plus Hugh Smitham &

Re: [RBW] Re: New (to my wife) Betty Foy

The bars are set up for an upright riding position, but the B17 Narrow may not be the best saddle for such a posture. Brooks recommends wide saddles for upright riding, like the sprung B67 (or discontinued B68) or Cambium C19. The Rivet Loveland is another great option. Brooks recommends the

[RBW] Friday AM Housecleaning - Courtesy Reminder

Hey there - Was just catching up on some threads this morning and came across an unfortunate comment which falls clearly outside the guidelines of this group. That poster has been removed and the comment deleted. As a reminder: "Ride reports encouraged, as is a respectful, supportive and

[RBW] Re: Small Appaloosas going away

thanks for the post grant, really awesome insight! On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 11:56:50 AM UTC-5, Grant @ Rivendell wrote: > > Tubes are the same starting length, just cut shorter for smaller bikes--so > that's not it. We can still do the tiny American bikes, but "doing them" > amounts to

[RBW] Re: Sam Frame on Ebay (need advice)

The fellow selling the 60cm Sam on eBay is a pretty cool dude. He's a great guy, quiet, particular, puts in a LOT of miles, and takes care of his things. I have a Surly Steamroller and a wheelset from him. The Steamer was 8 or so years old when I bought it and had over 100,000 km on it, by

[RBW] My Rosco Road Fatty build

This is my first post, but I have been a long time reader. I've gotten lots of ideas and inspiration from this group, so I wanted to share my first Riv build with you all. I was intrigued by the Rosco Road frame from the first time I saw it--the blue paint job drew me in and the lifter

[RBW] New (to my wife) Betty Foy

I bought the frame, wheels, and brakes from another owner on this forum earlier last month. I finally acquired all the needed parts and decided to just have the local bike shop assemble it. We picked it up yesterday. She was fine with the colors but after seeing the bright red pedals on the

Re: [RBW] iBert with drops - workable?

The Yepp mini mount works with both threadless and threaded/quill stems. I bought an additional adapter to put on my wife's quill stem bike, and we can very quickly switch over the seat depending on who drops off the kid at daycare. The seat in the instagram link is a bobike mini I believe. I

[RBW] New (to my wife) Betty Foy

It's the best bike in the world for sure! Ask me how I know ;) I've never seen red pedals before - that's new! And red matching cables. Do you think the saddle may be too narrow for her? I love my wide B68 on my Bets. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[RBW] Re: FS: Sam Hillborne complete

I'm lowering the price to $1900. Where are my tall people? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

Re: [RBW] Current indexing systems and shifting in general, per the Knothole

Thanks, Bill-I prefer a wider Q as well. I should look for those rings to fit cranks I already have, see if I can put something together. Steve On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Bill M. wrote: > I have two Campy Record Triple cranks that I run without outer rings to >

[RBW] Re: Sam Frame on Ebay (need advice)

I'm certain the Cheviot will be just fine for you. On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 1:08:16 AM UTC-5, Antone Könst wrote: > > Dissuaded, thanks folks! Now that Riv. is doing financing via PayPal > thinking it might be time. > > Along the same lines as my initial post, there is a potentially shady

[RBW] Small Appaloosas going away

For models built in batches the logic is clear, but Ive wondered about this,for small and large Atlantis, Hillborne, or other frames built on individual order, not batches, what about being small or large would make them be discontinued? Are there different tubes or lugs that would need to be

[RBW] Re: cool new geometry section on rivbike.com

I hand wrote the range of pbh's on the form from info at their site. I have a hard copy of it and am always using it to compare among the models. I'm thinking they did it that way since they just have spreads on typical heights for those bikes. Just a guess on my part. On Friday, March 10,

[RBW] Re: Small Appaloosas going away

Tubes are the same starting length, just cut shorter for smaller bikes--so that's not it. We can still do the tiny American bikes, but "doing them" amounts to keeping the possibilities open, which is fine and easy, but we'll get zero to one orders for 47 Atlantis per year...and even so,

[RBW] FS: New Brooks B17 special

For sale is a new brooks b17 special in black with copper rivets and copper plated rails. Bought this a week ago and seat has exactly 1 dry ride and 10 miles on it. Everything is perfect and indistinguishable from new, I just changed my mind. $110 Jeff Virginia -- You received this message

[RBW] Re: Remember Good People, Steel is Real!

anyone have a sense of humor they can loan to a fellow forum member? On Thursday, March 9, 2017 at 7:32:09 PM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote: > > I know, Keith, I was just rolling with it. Right into a phone pole! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] Re: FS: 650b rim brake wheelset / SON28, White Ind, Velocity / $700

Sounds like an excellent wheelset. I would love these for my Clem. Sigh. Good luck with the sale! On Thursday, March 9, 2017 at 1:43:17 PM UTC-5, Patch T wrote: > > Hi Bunch, > > I recently had the folks at Golden Saddle in LA build me a wheelset that I > won't be using after all. I have

[RBW] Re: Only three more mountain mixtes remain....

Would love to see some pictures of these Roscoe step-thrus. I hemmed and hawed and worried about the bars being too high, and when I was ready to pull the trigger, they were all gone. PB Arlington, VA On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 at 12:51:12 PM UTC-5, Ray Varella wrote: > > I picked mine up

[RBW] Re: Sam Frame on Ebay (need advice)

The post says "Rivendell cheviot was purchased directly from Rivendell last month for $2650" Why would anyone purchase this one month and sell it the next month for $800 less? I have been eyeing Rivs for about 9 months, but the cost of a new build is too much for me (even with Ryan H's

[RBW] Re: Front rack w/ basket and panniers

Thanks, Zach! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborn

I bought a Sam 6 years ago. Having such a frame, built to make me more upright, able to carry medium sized loads, ride on gravel or pavement, and light my way through the night changed my life. "Changed my life" is not an overstatement. Another frame could have perhaps accomplished the same

[RBW] Re: Sam Frame on Ebay (need advice)

Antone I have a 60 Cheviot and have weighed as much as 230. It rides like a dream. I regularly carry groceries home, filling rear panniers and a front basket. Your weight won't bother the Cheviot at all. Decisions are tough. Howard Livonia Mi -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: FS: 650b rim brake wheelset / SON28, White Ind, Velocity / $700

How about $600 + shipping? oh and the freehub body on the T11 is Shimano. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Sam Frame on Ebay (need advice)

people run into unexpected financial situations. i've done the same, when i've had a few hospital bills come up. On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 12:28:49 PM UTC-5, Roberta Chase wrote: > > The post says "Rivendell cheviot was purchased directly from Rivendell > last month for $2650" Why would

[RBW] Re: Sam Frame on Ebay (need advice)

Thirded for a non shady looking listing. Also the gray cheviot is really pretty. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: HiRiser?

Tektro also makes a front brake cable hanger that mounts on the fork crown, I have one on a bike and I like it so much better than the high hangers. The brake works better too. http://www.tektro-usa.com/category.php?catid=188=1096 On Thursday, March 9, 2017 at 8:21:17 PM UTC-5, Eamon

Re: [RBW] Re: HiRiser?

I didn't know Tektro had a direct web store now - thanks! Sometimes I have seen things they make and had no way to get them. On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Garth wrote: > Tektro also makes a front brake cable hanger that mounts on the fork > crown, I have one on a bike

Re: [RBW] Re: New (to my wife) Betty Foy

It's beautiful. I hope she has many happy hours with it. On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 2:04:04 PM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote: > > The bars are set up for an upright riding position, but the B17 Narrow may > not be the best saddle for such a posture. Brooks recommends wide saddles > for upright

[RBW] Re: New (to my wife) Betty Foy

The red housing, bungee, and pedals are a nice match and a great contrast against with the blue. Looks so good! On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 2:37:06 PM UTC-6, Daniel Betancourt wrote: > > Thanks for all the informative posts. I went ahead and ordered a Brooks > B67 S saddle through Amazon. She

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborn

I saw an orange sam locked up just off Broadway i Vancouver BC yesterday. Somone was getting a lot of use out of that bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

[RBW] Small Appaloosas going away

Wow, have you ever seen anything as pretty as that butternut Appaloosa with the lowrider front bags and the 'big box' on the back? If I didn't already have a blue 51 that fits great with upright bars, and if I really thought I'd like a smaller one with drops, well... -- You received this

[RBW] Re: Remember Good People, Steel is Real!

Does anyone remember what this thread was about? ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

Re: [RBW] Current indexing systems and shifting in general, per the Knothole

Sheeeit! I knew that this new fangled shifting stuff was over rated. Glad I stuck with ss/fixed! Seriously good on him. Patrick "hands grimly gripping the bar" Moore, in sunny, mild, and breezy ABQ, NM (where he carried 21 lb home in his Ortlieb Sports Packers attached to his Matthews front

Re: [RBW] Current indexing systems and shifting in general, per the Knothole

I think you've nailed it with "respect for 50yo carbon frames", they will be virtually non-existent. There's no real concern for the longevity of current electronic shifting systems because they'll be replaced in a few years along with the frame they're attached to. I think traditional steel

[RBW] Complete diamond frame Clems on sale $200 off

https://www.rivbike.com/collections/web-special-framesets-and-bicycles/products/clem-smith-jr-h-style-complete Yea I just ordered a 65cm in Mustard. Expensive solution to my iBert + drops issue haha. No really I've been kind of lusting after one of these but when they dropped it $200, that was

[RBW] Re: FS: New Brooks B17 special

Sold -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [RBW] Current indexing systems and shifting in general, per the Knothole

On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 4:18:17 AM UTC-8, Garth wrote: > > With the electro stuff, are they gonna have batteries indefinitely ? I > doubt you will see may "classic" electro shifting bikes down he road with > original parts. Me, I am getting a bit turned off by all the technology >

Re: [RBW] My Rosco Road Fatty build

Very nice, and interesting because I thought that these bikes were not designed for drop bars. I see that I was wrong. What is the st (c-c) and top tube? And please post photos of your Atala! Swap the Itala tires for Compass Bon Jon Pass extralights, and those on the RB for Barlow Pass or

Re: [RBW] Current indexing systems and shifting in general, per the Knothole

No, they're just chainrings I had in my parts collection. Probably originally 8- or 9-speed - definitely not 10-speed. The 36t is a Shimano and the 24t a stainless steel Sugino. Take no notice of the garbage spouted by the manufacturers about needing speed-specific chainrings. I've got several

[RBW] Re: My Rosco Road Fatty build

That is a great looking build. I love reading about these frames. On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 2:15:12 PM UTC-5, Gabriel Bruguier wrote: > > > This is my first post, but I have been a long time reader. I've gotten > lots of ideas and inspiration from this group, so I wanted to share my >

Re: [RBW] Current indexing systems and shifting in general, per the Knothole

I've used generic Sugino and ancient Pro 5 Vis rings with 10 speed chains; no problems at all. On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Steven Frederick wrote: > Are those standard Sugino rings, and they work fine with a 10 speed > chain? One of the chief issues I'm running into is

[RBW] Re: New (to my wife) Betty Foy

Thanks for all the informative posts. I went ahead and ordered a Brooks B67 S saddle through Amazon. She can try that out and see if she likes it better. I think those pedals are gaudy but it's her bike, so I'll have the MKS Lambda pedals on standby just in case she ends up wanting to swap

[RBW] Re: FS: Various Shimano goodies - Dura Ace 7400, 600 Tri-color, and more

Bump for the weekend, and price drop. Available parts: Shimano 600 Tri-color (6400 group), all in good shape 2 Rear Derailleurs - $25 each 1 set of shift levers - $25 Shimano Z Derailleurs - served me well for years on my commuter. Simple friction set up. - $20 for the set - Rear derailleur is

Re: [RBW] Current indexing systems and shifting in general, per the Knothole

On 03/10/2017 02:35 PM, Brewster Fong wrote: On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 4:18:17 AM UTC-8, Garth wrote: With the electro stuff, are they gonna have batteries indefinitely ? I doubt you will see may "classic" electro shifting bikes down he road with original parts. Me, I am

Re: [RBW] Current indexing systems and shifting in general, per the Knothole

Here's the crankset on my Bleriot. Sugino XD cranks, 36/24 chainrings. I made the chainguard from an old TA 41t chainring by hacksawed the teeth off and smoothing down with file and sandpaper. Deore XT 2x10 front derailleur. Rear gearing is an 11-36 10-speed cassette with 9-speed XT rear mech

Re: [RBW] Current indexing systems and shifting in general, per the Knothole

Are those standard Sugino rings, and they work fine with a 10 speed chain? One of the chief issues I'm running into is finding 10-speed specific rings in my preferred tooth count/BCD... Thanks, Steve On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 2:31 PM, Nick Payne wrote: > Here's the crankset on

[RBW] Re: New (to my wife) Betty Foy

Beautiful bike! I love the red pedals and would have kept them if it were my bike. I love Brooks saddles but the b17 Narrow is just too narrow for me. The Pro and the standard B17 are fine. I have several B68s and B67s and both very good for the upright position. Looking at the bars I

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborn

Carla, you simply can't go wrong with the Sam. I have mine set up with Alfine 8 IGH and bullmoose bars. It rides like a Cadillac. I have a 51 and it fits me great but at the same time "rides large" if that makes any sense. One of my favorite rides! On Wednesday, March 8, 2017 at 7:18:50 PM

Re: [RBW] Current indexing systems and shifting in general, per the Knothole

On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 4:31:18 AM UTC-8, Michael Hechmer wrote: > > Boy, this all makes my 84 Trek look better & better, because I don't want > to buy stuff I want to Just Ride. > That's great! If a 1984 Trek is all you need to ride, then I say Just Do It! In contrast, I have a buddy

[RBW] Re: Remember Good People, Steel is Real!

wow just wow. lol professor actual factual saving the non helmeted children of yester year with time machine and encyclopedic knowledge of helmet trivia. now if he only coulda made it ta da 80s i wouldn't a banged my unhelmeted head so often n I'd be a lick smarter... !) then maybe I'd recon

Re: [RBW] Current indexing systems and shifting in general, per the Knothole

On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 1:28:26 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: > > I think you've nailed it with "respect for 50yo carbon frames", they will > be virtually non-existent. There's no real concern for the longevity of > current electronic shifting systems because they'll be replaced in a few

[RBW] Re: Complete diamond frame Clems on sale $200 off

Pretty much the solution I went with. Although it was a demo clementine 59cm. I justified it as baby's first bike. Congrats on the new bike! Hope you and the little one have loads of fun with it. Sky in new west. On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 2:46:30 PM UTC-8, Jim Bronson wrote: > > >

Re: [RBW] Current indexing systems and shifting in general, per the Knothole

With the electro stuff, are they gonna have batteries indefinitely ? I doubt you will see may "classic" electro shifting bikes down he road with original parts. Me, I am getting a bit turned off by all the technology creeping into everything, as if a computer is "THE answer" to everything, and

Re: [RBW] Current indexing systems and shifting in general, per the Knothole

Boy, this all makes my 84 Trek look better & better, because I don't want to buy stuff I want to Just Ride. Michael On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 7:18:17 AM UTC-5, Garth wrote: > > With the electro stuff, are they gonna have batteries indefinitely ? I > doubt you will see may "classic" electro

Re: [RBW] Current indexing systems and shifting in general, per the Knothole

Well, some of the "avert your eyes" applied to the USPS bike is due to the largely erased history it was involved with, but yeah, it's not much to look at. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group

[RBW] Re: New (to my wife) Betty Foy

I was gonna vote for nix the red pedals too but the red bungee net brings it all together. On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 3:37:06 PM UTC-5, Daniel Betancourt wrote: > > Thanks for all the informative posts. I went ahead and ordered a Brooks > B67 S saddle through Amazon. She can try that out and

Re: [RBW] How are some Appaloosa owners loading up their bikes for commuting?

ed, On the other side of the size spectrum I also have a 51cm Appaloosa and have a 83cm PBH, 72cm SH, and 4cm more seatpost showing than Phillip. -Dave On Friday, March 3, 2017 at 5:22:26 PM UTC-5, ed wrote: > > Hi Philip, > I know this is off topic, but what is your pbh, seat height and how

[RBW] Re: My Rosco Road Fatty build

Thanks for the pics. That's a wonderful bike. Don Compton On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 11:15:12 AM UTC-8, Gabriel Bruguier wrote: > > > This is my first post, but I have been a long time reader. I've gotten > lots of ideas and inspiration from this group, so I wanted to share my > first Riv

Re: [RBW] Current indexing systems and shifting in general, per the Knothole

FYI, that DiNucci was built for Patrick Brady over at Redkiteprayer. He wrote a few articles on it. This one (http://redkiteprayer.com/2017/02/the-dinucci/) describes the tubeset and components. Velo-Orange brakes, compact double, Zipp Wheels, fits 35 mm tires. Yellow Submarine–inspired paint

[RBW] Re: Atlantis now redundant?

Did the top tube length change on the 2017 Appaloosa? In the old chart (attached) the 51cm model says Top Tube of "56.5cm", the new chart shows the Top tube as "57.5". Or is this just a matter of effective vs actual? https://www.rivbike.com/pages/geometry vs

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis now redundant?

Not that I know for sure but I am guessing it is actual vs effective. That said, having two different numbers out there can be confusing unless you are paying pretty close attention. I was looking at the 58cm Appaloosa figures the other night and noticed the 59.7 vs. 61.5 top tube lengths given.

[RBW] Re: My Rosco Road Fatty build

Congrats and welcome! Great looking bike, love the blue. Nice clean well thought it build to... Mine are generally a bit more haphazard. Looking forward to some ride reports! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] HiRiser?

Ant, if a bike is too small and/or too short in the tt my experience also is that is does not work just getting a long/high stem. Sure, you get streched out/risen a little, but the bike still doesn't feel right and it never will. I bought a 83 mtb back in the day that was too small and despite