Re: [RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K handlebar bag

2011-01-04 Thread JimD
+1 for bar bags. I use one of the Riv bar tubes on my custom with a small ps camera, and food in it. I've not noticed any effect on handling. -JimD On Jan 3, 2011, at 6:46 PM, Joan Oppel wrote: Thanks for the terrific write up on the brevet. As for handlebar bags: for touring (which I do

Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar Wrap - Why Not Leather?

2011-01-04 Thread JimD
I tried bare bars (Noodles) for the past several weeks. They were ok but my hands got cold. I've got em cloth taped and shellacked now. -JimD On Jan 3, 2011, at 8:40 PM, Mike S wrote: The best tape is no tape! I've got bare Nito moustache bars on my 'B' bike, and I love the look and, more

[RBW] Re: How do you know when tires are worn out?

2011-01-04 Thread Angus
When the cord shows through the tread...they are done. Start getting lots of flats through the thin tread...they are done. Crappy looking sidewalls...unless the structure of the casing is damaged...I keep going. I generally get quite a few years out of a pair of tires and try and extract every

Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar Wrap - Why Not Leather?

2011-01-04 Thread Ken Freeman
I'm all for cheap! My favorite tape is the traditional Cinelli cork-filled tape, at about $20 per roll. But I can't reuse it because its gummed. Profile and Forte are still pretty good, and will come off easily if you don't undertape and will stay in place well if you wrap tightly. On Mon,

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Wrap - Why Not Leather?

2011-01-04 Thread Anne
Leather: this is priced closer to Brooks but lasts and lasts. You can put a layer of cloth or cork down under it. Rewrap: yes, Clean: yes Ray makes some great wrap. Custom stitching avail. Rave reviews. Here's the main info link on his wrap (most love it far more than the Brooks wrap)

[RBW] Re: How do you know when tires are worn out?

2011-01-04 Thread Kelly Sleeper
After three flats I get rid of the tire. Usually by then it has cuts and small holes in it. I ride city streets and shoulders a lot. After a few cuts small gravel will cause flats as well. So three flats and they are gone. My Schwable Marathon Plus tires have 2500 miles on them with

Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar Wrap - Why Not Leather?

2011-01-04 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 16:54 -0800, williwoods wrote: Hey Bruce fantastic review of various wraps and tapes etc.you just saved me a bunch of $$ and trial and error, time, etc. I was looking at all the ones you listed. around 10,000 miles on my Fujitoshi bar wrap on the Velo Orange

[RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K handlebar bag

2011-01-04 Thread doug peterson
On issue regarding front bags that has not been mentioned is cross winds. Anne mentioned it was quite windy on the brevet. A large boxy front bag (I use the Acorn Boxy Rando mostly) has quite a bit of sail area as well as sticking toward the front. I definitely notice cross winds but it's not

[RBW] Two-wheeled Donation - a nice twist on the classic in your name gift.

2011-01-04 Thread Marty
Back at work now, and opened a card from a supplier that must like bikes as much as I do. They donated to Unicef on my behalf, but the donation was specifically for a bike to be used by health-care workers to reach kids in remote communities. I checked the Unicef site, and it seems they use

Re: [RBW] Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-04 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 20:10 -0800, cyclotourist wrote: Sonic screwdriver? Indeed, a bar tube may carry the world, but the sonic screwdriver can save the world - and has done many times before! Apropos of which, how'd you like the Dr Who Christmas special? On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 5:15 PM,

[RBW] SoCal Riv Ride - Feb 12 in SD

2011-01-04 Thread cyclotourist
February's planned ride lets us get inland a bit, as well as giving the SD crowd have a break from traveling (the price of living in paradise). It's shaping up to be a 50+ mile mixie, over mostly back roads and ~30% dirt content guaranteed. A chunk of climbing, so work on those intervals! Hope

Re: [RBW] Re: How do you know when tires are worn out?

2011-01-04 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 17:39 -0800, EricP wrote: Don't have mine in a shed, but tan sidewalls generally gave out after a year. Not complete failure, just enough pulling apart to not appear safe. Had a set of Pasela 35s with less than 2,000 miles on them that were pulled off because of that

Re: [RBW] Handlebar Wrap - Why Not Leather?

2011-01-04 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 15:07 -0800, Clayton Scott wrote: Leather is slippery when wet. At least the stuff I tried. The Fujitoshi leather bar wrap is not slippery when wet. I have no experience with the other brands. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-04 Thread Jim M.
On Jan 3, 5:51 pm, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Makes me want to contemplate a 200k in the future.  However, will not join a club just to do the one ride. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN Is that attitude from thrift? In my area, it costs nothing to join the randonneur club, and it only costs $10

[RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-04 Thread William
...or maybe he's a Groucho Marxist! On Jan 4, 10:31 am, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 3, 5:51 pm, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Makes me want to contemplate a 200k in the future.  However, will not join a club just to do the one ride. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN Is that

Re: [RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-04 Thread Anne Paulson
I didn't have to join any local club, nor did I have to join RUSA. I just paid my ten bucks to sign up for the ride, and that was it. On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 5:51 PM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Makes me want to contemplate a 200k in the future.  However, will not join a club just to do the

Re: [RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-04 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 10:31 -0800, Jim M. wrote: On Jan 3, 5:51 pm, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Makes me want to contemplate a 200k in the future. However, will not join a club just to do the one ride. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN Is that attitude from thrift? In my area, it costs

[RBW] Drilled Out Chain Ring (Would you ride it?)

2011-01-04 Thread Minh
Hi all, In the tradition of poking the collective knowledge of the group, i would like opinions on whether you would ride this chain ring. I bought this superbe pro crankset for my new Hillborne build and wasn't too concerned about the drilled out ring since i have a few spare big rings in the

[RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K handlebar bag

2011-01-04 Thread mike
I have a Riv bar tube, it's got the roadside repair kit and bus fare in it. I hang it from the top tube. It's thin enough that it doesn't hit my legs. It wasn't a problem on the bars, just seems to work better for me inside the triangle. On Jan 4, 2:45 am, JimD rasterd...@comcast.net wrote:

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Wrap - Why Not Leather?

2011-01-04 Thread Benedikt
I've been using leather on my bars for about 2 years now, here in Seattle, where it rains a lot. Although I don't leave my bike parked out in the rain. It doesn't seem to me like they take that long to dry either. I went to a leather supply store and purchased two belt blanks (pre-cut pieces

[RBW] Atlantis?

2011-01-04 Thread Benedikt
What model Rivendell is this? Looks like an Atlantis but no where on the frame does it say so. http://www.flickr.com/photos/neutralbuoyancy/5322621005/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [RBW] Atlantis?

2011-01-04 Thread Seth Vidal
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 3:16 AM, Benedikt neutralbuoya...@comcast.net wrote: What model Rivendell is this?  Looks like an Atlantis but no where on the frame does it say so. http://www.flickr.com/photos/neutralbuoyancy/5322621005/ It's a custom, I think. Otherwise I guess it could be an

[RBW] Re: Atlantis?

2011-01-04 Thread William
You got a good answer from Leaf Slayer on flickr. Those decals are typical of a custom Rivendell. Or it could be an older All-Rounder. On Jan 4, 12:16 am, Benedikt neutralbuoya...@comcast.net wrote: What model Rivendell is this?  Looks like an Atlantis but no where on the frame does it say

[RBW] Re: [BOB] SoCal Riv Ride - Feb 12 in SD

2011-01-04 Thread cyclotourist
You can ride support!!! On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Kenneth Robb kr...@san.rr.com wrote: Too long, too steep for me unless I'm on my Ducati. :-) Ken On Jan 4, 2011, at 10:08 AM, cyclotourist wrote: February's planned ride lets us get inland a bit, as well as giving the SD crowd

Re: [RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-04 Thread Anne Paulson
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: It's $10 per year to join the DC area randonneur club, and $5 per event. Considering how much effort the organizers put into setting up the events, I think that's well worth it, and I'm sure it scarcely covers the

[RBW] Re: Drilled Out Chain Ring (Would you ride it?)

2011-01-04 Thread William
Minh I wouldn't worry about riding it. Since it's an amateur job, the hole(s) that are nearest the edges will have larger stress concentrations, so if something breaks, it'll break there first and you'll hear a click or creak and know that it's time to ditch it. I doubt that you'll have a

[RBW] Re: SoCal Riv Ride - Feb 12 in SD

2011-01-04 Thread Esteban
Folks - This is going to be a real treat. Some of the attributes of our back country are: 1) fairly close to downtown San Diego - our starting point is about 12 miles east of the gleaming waterfront; 2) Its really wild out there on the trails - no spa-style hikers and dog walkers (no offense

[RBW] Re: SoCal Riv Ride - Feb 12 in SD

2011-01-04 Thread Michael_S
Would Jack Browns be a good choice for this ride or something more studly? I'm marking it on my calender right now too. ~Mike~ On Jan 4, 11:17 am, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: Folks - This is going to be a real treat.  Some of the attributes of our back country are: 1) fairly close to

[RBW] Re: SoCal Riv Ride - Feb 12 in SD

2011-01-04 Thread Esteban
I think the dirt sections are relatively mellow (save for a few 50-ft. sections with big rocks to prevent erosion, which may have all of us walking). 35s recommended, but the jump from JBs up to those is not huge. On Jan 4, 11:27 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: Would Jack Browns

[RBW] How do I adapt Riv Bullmoose Bars to unthreaded steerer

2011-01-04 Thread Ray
I am seeking best advice (easiest way) re: using Rivendell Bullmoose bars on a non threaded steerer. My research lands me at the following link. Is this the way, or are there better options, short of replacing the fork?

Re: [RBW] Atlantis?

2011-01-04 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 00:16 -0800, Benedikt wrote: What model Rivendell is this? Looks like an Atlantis but no where on the frame does it say so. http://www.flickr.com/photos/neutralbuoyancy/5322621005/ That's the custom Riv headbadge. -- You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW] Re: SoCal Riv Ride - Feb 12 in SD

2011-01-04 Thread cyclotourist
The JBs would be great on the 35ish miles of paved road, and don't sound like they would be a hindrance on the dirt... so dust off that Ram! On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: I think the dirt sections are relatively mellow (save for a few 50-ft. sections with

Re: [RBW] Drilled Out Chain Ring (Would you ride it?)

2011-01-04 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Drillium! The solar system's lightest element! I'd not worry about it; if it breaks it won't fail catastrophically, a la crabon fibre, in mid-intersection; instead it will gradually, slowly, gently let you down. But you can only ride it in an old, wool jersey with front button pockets. I have an

Re: [RBW] Atlantis?

2011-01-04 Thread PATRICK MOORE
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[RBW] Re: Drilled Out Chain Ring (Would you ride it?)

2011-01-04 Thread Travis
+1. Ride it, but not in a single/track set-up On Jan 4, 3:32 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Drillium! The solar system's lightest element! I'd not worry about it; if it breaks it won't fail catastrophically, a la crabon fibre, in mid-intersection; instead it will gradually,

[RBW] Re: Atlantis?

2011-01-04 Thread rperks
look to be Schwalbe Fat Franks - Rob On Jan 4, 12:33 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: What are the tyres? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To

Re: [RBW] Atlantis?

2011-01-04 Thread nawrock
+1 with Patrick on the tires, they look huge, love the pea sage green color of the frame. Dave Nawrocki Fort Collins, CO - Original Message - From: PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 4, 2011 1:33:59 PM Subject: Re: [RBW]

[RBW] Re: How do I adapt Riv Bullmoose Bars to unthreaded steerer

2011-01-04 Thread Jeremy Till
First Flight/Mountain Goat make a threadless bullmoose, which would avoid the situation: http://www.firstflightbikes.com/MGParts.htm I think Rawland was also marketing a threadless bullmoose-esq bar/stem combo (it was two-piece instead of being braised/welded together. On Jan 4, 12:16 pm, Ray

[RBW] Re: SoCal Riv Ride - Feb 12 in SD

2011-01-04 Thread rperks
I want to do this, but the distance on the highway has my head spining. Santiago Peak was the most time I spent in a car in 6 months. This one would be 200 miles each way, through LA and Orange Counties. But the mountains out there are so so cool, decisions. I may have to use this as an excuse

Re: [RBW] Re: How do I adapt Riv Bullmoose Bars to unthreaded steerer

2011-01-04 Thread Ray Shine
Thanks for that link, Jeremy. Interesting. I had not heard of that company before. I know about the Rawland bar/stem combo, just not sure I like the look of all the bolts. kind of clutters up things. From: Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: How do I adapt Riv Bullmoose Bars to unthreaded steerer

2011-01-04 Thread William
Ray That shim is almost certainly not the way to do what you want to do. Remember that with a threadless headset system, the stem clamped onto the outside of the steerer is the only thing holding the headset together. The top cap over the stem allows you to preload the bearings. With a

Re: [RBW] Re: How do I adapt Riv Bullmoose Bars to unthreaded steerer

2011-01-04 Thread Ray Shine
Wow! OK! I don't want that problem. Sounds complicated, as well. Thank you for heading me off at the pass. I appreciate that. Guess I'll look hard at the Goathead or the Rawland set ups -- or scrap the whole idea and mount a Jitensha straight bar.

Re: [RBW] Re: How do I adapt Riv Bullmoose Bars to unthreaded steerer

2011-01-04 Thread Joe Bunik
On 1/4/11, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Some front brake cable hangers have a pinch bolt, so in theory if you put the headset together with a proper threadless stem, preloaded the bearings with the top cap in place, and locked it together with a When I'd looked into a similar situation

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Wrap - Why Not Leather?

2011-01-04 Thread Frankwurst
Agreed. Ray puts out a good product and if your unhappy I'd be willing to bet he'll make it right. Good stuff rain,snow or shine. On Jan 4, 8:37 am, Anne speedyc...@comcast.net wrote: Leather: this is priced closer to Brooks but lasts and lasts. You can put a layer of cloth or cork down under

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Wrap - Why Not Leather?

2011-01-04 Thread Mike
I really like Newbaum's cloth tape with clear shellack and finished off with twine. I really like the end result but I realize it's not for everyone. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335...@n00/4664845465/in/photostream/ If it's raining on my days off this week I'll probably but this blue

[RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-04 Thread EricP
Our brevet society is fairly new (2008?). And one needs to be a member of the Twin Cities Bicycle Club ($25 a year) to join. And yes, I usually state will not join a club that would have me as a member. (Do believe they also highly encourage RUSA membership, although that is not explicity

Re: [RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-04 Thread Brian Hanson
As a former Minnesotan, I completely understand :) No need to join anything to have fun on a bike. Keep riding! Brian Now a Seattlite On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 5:47 PM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Our brevet society is fairly new (2008?). And one needs to be a member of the Twin Cities

[RBW] Re: Drilled Out Chain Ring (Would you ride it?)

2011-01-04 Thread Angus
If it were mine I would ride it. Looks nice! Angus On Jan 4, 11:17 am, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, In the tradition of poking the collective knowledge of the group, i would like opinions on whether you would ride this chain ring.  I bought this superbe pro crankset for my new

Re: [RBW] Re: Gray Whale 200K

2011-01-04 Thread Ralph Rognstad Jr.
I believe membership is an insurance issue. Some clubs carry a blanket policy for all members, so they require membership. My local club pays a premium for each ride based on the number of riders (members or not), which the riders pay for through the ride fee. I decided not to run the brevets

[RBW] Re: Drilled Out Chain Ring (Would you ride it?)

2011-01-04 Thread amoll68
Dig it! Looks cool. Drillium was super popular in the early-mid 70s. Doubt you'll have a problem just riding around. Might be a problem for Cavendish, or if you're going to be doing heavy touring in remote locales. Alex -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] Re: Drilled Out Chain Ring (Would you ride it?)

2011-01-04 Thread Minh
William, Thanks, i'll just keep an eye on it then. When i said i would use it on a single speed, i would just use the inner 42 ring (it's the original suntour and non-drilled). On Jan 4, 2:05 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Minh I wouldn't worry about riding it.  Since it's an amateur

[RBW] Re: Atlantis?

2011-01-04 Thread Benedikt
The tires are Schwalbe Fat Franks. On Jan 4, 12:33 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: What are the tyres? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] Re: How do I adapt Riv Bullmoose Bars to unthreaded steerer

2011-01-04 Thread Erik
The linked part is not going to do the trick--it is designed to step you down from 1 1/8 threaded to 1 threaded. Assuming that you currently have a 1 1/8 threadless fork/headset, this would step you down in size, but leave you without the means to adjust the headset (or secure it to the bike for

[RBW] FS 650B Wheelset $400

2011-01-04 Thread kogrider
One 650b wheelset with velocity rims, panaracer col de la vie tires/ tubes, and shifter. The rear hub is a shimano nexus 8 speed internal gear hub and the front hub is a shimano LX. Wheels and tires have less than 100 miles on them (the bike frame/fork they were on sold recently). They are ready

[RBW] FS Phil/Mavic 719 Rear Wheel

2011-01-04 Thread kogrider
Phil Wood 700 rear wheel, 40 hole hub/rim, 9 speed (8-10 cassettes will fit), and 135 mm spacing. The Mavic 719 and 520 (the label says 530) rims are the same. In excellent condition. No quick release skewer. Wheel professionally built and is straight and true. These wheel is perfect for your

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Wrap - Why Not Leather?

2011-01-04 Thread msrw
So the overall conclusion would appear to be that plenty of people DO like leather tape. For me, even though I live in the high desert, leather tape is more affected by environmental factors than a really high quality synthetic like Fizik. I have Fizik on all of my bikes. It's the best bar tape

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Wrap - Why Not Leather?

2011-01-04 Thread Benedikt
I know it's traditional but when it comes to cloth tape and shellac I'm just not a fan of the twine. I would always stick the two ends of the tape together at the top of the bars, wrap down to the ends and tuck them in under the bar end caps (or champagne cork :) end caps) for a clean look.

Re: [RBW] Atlantis?

2011-01-04 Thread CycloFiend
on 1/4/11 12:16 AM, Benedikt at neutralbuoya...@comcast.net wrote: What model Rivendell is this? Looks like an Atlantis but no where on the frame does it say so. http://www.flickr.com/photos/neutralbuoyancy/5322621005/ Rivendell headbadge and downtube decal would suggest a custom. The

Re: [RBW] Re: How do I adapt Riv Bullmoose Bars to unthreaded steerer

2011-01-04 Thread Ray Shine
Thank you, Eric. I have pretty much given up on that idea after yours and others' comments. I am now looking at either a Jitensha bar, or the Goathead bar, maybe the Rawland bar. Thank you for the advice. From: Erik efrob...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis?

2011-01-04 Thread Michael Williams
Does anyone know what size the wheels/tires are?And what the color is of the bike? thanks, Mike On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Benedikt neutralbuoya...@comcast.netwrote: The tires are Schwalbe Fat Franks. On Jan 4, 12:33 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: What are the