[RBW] Albastache on road bike - Blug Post
Grant has a pic of this set up in the current Blug. He writes, I don’t THINK that future Roadeo customers, or road bike riders in gen’l, will convert 90 percent to Albastache from drops….but I would dare them to try. I've had mustache bars on a road bike (an older Japanese crit racer converted to 650B. But that's another post), set way up high like the picture, for several years. It's a great set up for climbing and very aero for descending. (remember the Pineapple Bob Gets Down picture?). It looks a little odd but it works. I prefer drops for long rides, but for 50 miles and less, the set up is good for me. The flare of the albastache bars might bring added comfort on longer hauls. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Anybody put a Large Saddlesack on top of Sackville Panniers?
I've been thinking about putting either Sackville Panniers or Frost River Panniers on my Nitto Big Back Rack and then putting the large saddlesack on top of it. I think I've seen this setup before and it would work for me in my role of chief load carrier for the family camping trips. I thought I could get away with just the saddlesack and a front shopsack and front panniers, towing a BOB trailer, but I think I need a little more space. I think the Carsick Panniers look excellent and I'd like to replace my Maddens with them up front. I love the saddlesack and don't want to give that up at all. I have all my tools where I want them and I can answer my phone while riding. The zip pockets that face the rider are very helpful. It seems like where one zip ties the saddlesack to the rack, through the slots on the bottom, they could be strapped to either of the panniers I mentioned above. However, I was wondering how much they would interfere with loading the bags up due to the overhang of the saddlesack? Anybody have any thoughts or experience? We plan on doing a tour of Cambodia this summer and down the Pacific Coast the following year. The wife and six year old with be on a tandem and my 10 year old is on his own bike with panniers. My wife has enough on her plate just negotiating the youngster and her reluctant pedaling without bothering with luggage. Kip Otteson Chiang Mai, Thailand -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: From bar ends to thumbies
Thanks everyone for the feedback. Absolutely no consensus here but I think the hand space issue on drops could be compelling. Cecily, could you post a picture of your setup? or just email it to me? Michael On Monday, September 23, 2013 8:54:20 PM UTC-4, Cecily Walker wrote: I didn't move from bar end shifters, but the mechanic who built my bike recommended thumbies because he felt they were easier to work with for intown riding. He also mounted mine upside down because he said they'd be easier for me to work with on those days when my arthritis flares up and my hands aren't working so well. My front derailleur is friction, and my rear is indexed. They're positioned right above my hand grips, so I don't even have to take my hands off the grips to use the rear derailleur. I can just tap it with a knuckle and it moves. On Monday, September 23, 2013 4:33:05 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote: Since retiring I have gradually moved my single bikes back from bar ends to down shifters. Now that I don't commute and rarely ride into heavy town traffic I find I prefer the speed and clean looks of DT shifters. But the tandem is still bar end because my stoker doesn't like me letting go of the handle bars, and we're never or rarely needing to shift rapidly. But I am considering switching these to thumbies. Has anyone made this transition, especially with drop bars? With friction? How did it go? Do you like it better or worse? My wife has been enjoying the albatross bars on her half of the tandem and so we have been talking about also switching her single and if I do that maybe I'll install thumbies there too. Do people use this combination and how have they likes it? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Anybody put a Large Saddlesack on top of Sackville Panniers?
Hi Kip, I haven't tried that specific combo, but I have used Ortlieb panniers on a Tubus rear rack, with my large SaddleSack sitting on top. It worked fine in terms of everything being securely attached etc., but there was zero access to the contents of the panniers without removing the SaddleSack, so it was a matter of loading the panniers, attaching them to the bike, then attaching the SaddleSack. From memory it was possible, if a bit fiddly, to attach or remove the panniers with the SaddleSack already on the rack, but I guess that wouldn't work with Riv-style panniers. Sounds like you've got some great trips planned, don't forget to post some photos! Tom Germany. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Anybody put a Large Saddlesack on top of Sackville Panniers?
Hey Kip, Yes. See here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/9725707307/. Does it limit access? A bit, but not practicably. As the Large Saddlesack sags its wings, I have to lift it up to get things in and out, but that's not much of a bother, and when I use them, I only put stuff in them that I'll need once at my campsite. Everything I need on the trail is in the Saddlesack. Mounting: I use Irish straps (the short ones) to 1) anchor the panniers to the front of the rack; 2) Anchor the front and back of the Saddlesack to the rack, threading the strap through the leather of the Saddlesack then through the gap in the panniers and their top and under the rack. Once tightened, I've never had to tighten them on a trip, but they all easily come off. I don't know, but imagine the irish straps are easier than zip ties. Enjoy your family trips! With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 5:14:04 AM UTC-6, Kip Otteson wrote: I've been thinking about putting either Sackville Panniers or Frost River Panniers on my Nitto Big Back Rack and then putting the large saddlesack on top of it. I think I've seen this setup before and it would work for me in my role of chief load carrier for the family camping trips. I thought I could get away with just the saddlesack and a front shopsack and front panniers, towing a BOB trailer, but I think I need a little more space. I think the Carsick Panniers look excellent and I'd like to replace my Maddens with them up front. I love the saddlesack and don't want to give that up at all. I have all my tools where I want them and I can answer my phone while riding. The zip pockets that face the rider are very helpful. It seems like where one zip ties the saddlesack to the rack, through the slots on the bottom, they could be strapped to either of the panniers I mentioned above. However, I was wondering how much they would interfere with loading the bags up due to the overhang of the saddlesack? Anybody have any thoughts or experience? We plan on doing a tour of Cambodia this summer and down the Pacific Coast the following year. The wife and six year old with be on a tandem and my 10 year old is on his own bike with panniers. My wife has enough on her plate just negotiating the youngster and her reluctant pedaling without bothering with luggage. Kip Otteson Chiang Mai, Thailand -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Anybody put a Large Saddlesack on top of Sackville Panniers?
Oops. Meant to add this in my previous post. Pics of the mounting: http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157634073536262/ With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 6:54:42 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: Hey Kip, Yes. See here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/9725707307/. Does it limit access? A bit, but not practicably. As the Large Saddlesack sags its wings, I have to lift it up to get things in and out, but that's not much of a bother, and when I use them, I only put stuff in them that I'll need once at my campsite. Everything I need on the trail is in the Saddlesack. Mounting: I use Irish straps (the short ones) to 1) anchor the panniers to the front of the rack; 2) Anchor the front and back of the Saddlesack to the rack, threading the strap through the leather of the Saddlesack then through the gap in the panniers and their top and under the rack. Once tightened, I've never had to tighten them on a trip, but they all easily come off. I don't know, but imagine the irish straps are easier than zip ties. Enjoy your family trips! With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 5:14:04 AM UTC-6, Kip Otteson wrote: I've been thinking about putting either Sackville Panniers or Frost River Panniers on my Nitto Big Back Rack and then putting the large saddlesack on top of it. I think I've seen this setup before and it would work for me in my role of chief load carrier for the family camping trips. I thought I could get away with just the saddlesack and a front shopsack and front panniers, towing a BOB trailer, but I think I need a little more space. I think the Carsick Panniers look excellent and I'd like to replace my Maddens with them up front. I love the saddlesack and don't want to give that up at all. I have all my tools where I want them and I can answer my phone while riding. The zip pockets that face the rider are very helpful. It seems like where one zip ties the saddlesack to the rack, through the slots on the bottom, they could be strapped to either of the panniers I mentioned above. However, I was wondering how much they would interfere with loading the bags up due to the overhang of the saddlesack? Anybody have any thoughts or experience? We plan on doing a tour of Cambodia this summer and down the Pacific Coast the following year. The wife and six year old with be on a tandem and my 10 year old is on his own bike with panniers. My wife has enough on her plate just negotiating the youngster and her reluctant pedaling without bothering with luggage. Kip Otteson Chiang Mai, Thailand -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: From bar ends to thumbies
You can also put your thumbies on the stem's quill, if you want to keep the handlebars clean for multiple hand positions yet have the shifters closer to your hands so you don't have to bend down to the down tube. RBW sells an adapter that allows both to be at the same height, or you can use the Paul's adapter and put the left one over the right one. René — Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 4:42 AM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks everyone for the feedback. Absolutely no consensus here but I think the hand space issue on drops could be compelling. Cecily, could you post a picture of your setup? or just email it to me? Michael On Monday, September 23, 2013 8:54:20 PM UTC-4, Cecily Walker wrote: I didn't move from bar end shifters, but the mechanic who built my bike recommended thumbies because he felt they were easier to work with for intown riding. He also mounted mine upside down because he said they'd be easier for me to work with on those days when my arthritis flares up and my hands aren't working so well. My front derailleur is friction, and my rear is indexed. They're positioned right above my hand grips, so I don't even have to take my hands off the grips to use the rear derailleur. I can just tap it with a knuckle and it moves. On Monday, September 23, 2013 4:33:05 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote: Since retiring I have gradually moved my single bikes back from bar ends to down shifters. Now that I don't commute and rarely ride into heavy town traffic I find I prefer the speed and clean looks of DT shifters. But the tandem is still bar end because my stoker doesn't like me letting go of the handle bars, and we're never or rarely needing to shift rapidly. But I am considering switching these to thumbies. Has anyone made this transition, especially with drop bars? With friction? How did it go? Do you like it better or worse? My wife has been enjoying the albatross bars on her half of the tandem and so we have been talking about also switching her single and if I do that maybe I'll install thumbies there too. Do people use this combination and how have they likes it? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Randonnerding totally loaded in Vermont and New Hampshire
Hi All, just thought I'd share some photos from a recent ride to Vermont. I went to the Northeast Kingdom to visit friends not far from the Canadian border, and took a nice route to get there and back. http://www.flickr.com/photos/43029278@N07/sets/72157635839369194/ There are many, many miles of dirt road and snowmobile/ATV trails on the way up there, some smooth, some rocky, but all fun. Even the paved roads are nice. The scenery was gorgeous, and the leaves had begun to change already, especially north of White River Junction.The small towns and nice people in Vermont are the best. The bike handled perfectly, and the only thing that rattled loose was my mudflap(!) toward the end of the trip on a particularly bumpy section. You may notice I only have one water bottle, but that's because I prefer dromedary bags for carrying most of my water- the bottle is just a more convenient vessel to drink from :) This was my first fully loaded ride using moustache bars and the Nitto Large back rack, which I bought from Riv a while ago-I had been using a Tubus Cargo prior to this.I found the M-bars to be fantastic for all-day riding. I had used them before for ~2 hour rides on my QB and reckoned they'd be good for touring, but have always just stuck with Noodles since I know they work well for me. This ride convinced me that M-bars give plenty of hand positions for comfort and work well on bumpy terrain when riding somewhat heavily loaded. You do need a short stem with M-bars though. My only (minor) complaint about the Nitto rack is that platform is much too far back behind the rear axle, and it is difficult to get weight far enough forward with it due to the tombstone being so far back.Sliding the mounting points forward at the top results in the rack tilting forward at an odd angle. This is strange to me since I ride relatively large frames, and most racks (especially non-adjustable ones) end up tilting backward because of the steep angle of my seat-stays. The Nitto seems more geared toward frames with ultra-short chainstays, or super-tall frames.BUT it is still a ridiculously nice rack though, and I have like 5 inches of heel clearance with it (size 10's) so if you have large feet/ heel clearance issues with your rack it would be a good option.I may go back to the Tubus for future loaded riding, as it seems ideally suited to frames in my size in terms of where the platform is located.I also really like an R14 with the large saddlesack when not riding with panniers. Anyway hope you enjoy the photos. Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Randonnerding totally loaded in Vermont and New Hampshire
Wow! Fantastic photos of a grand backroads tour. I presume you are playing the piano you picked up? I particularly loved the Coronary trail. WIth abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:02:17 AM UTC-6, Matt Beebe wrote: Hi All, just thought I'd share some photos from a recent ride to Vermont. I went to the Northeast Kingdom to visit friends not far from the Canadian border, and took a nice route to get there and back. http://www.flickr.com/photos/43029278@N07/sets/72157635839369194/ There are many, many miles of dirt road and snowmobile/ATV trails on the way up there, some smooth, some rocky, but all fun. Even the paved roads are nice. The scenery was gorgeous, and the leaves had begun to change already, especially north of White River Junction.The small towns and nice people in Vermont are the best. The bike handled perfectly, and the only thing that rattled loose was my mudflap(!) toward the end of the trip on a particularly bumpy section. You may notice I only have one water bottle, but that's because I prefer dromedary bags for carrying most of my water- the bottle is just a more convenient vessel to drink from :) This was my first fully loaded ride using moustache bars and the Nitto Large back rack, which I bought from Riv a while ago-I had been using a Tubus Cargo prior to this.I found the M-bars to be fantastic for all-day riding. I had used them before for ~2 hour rides on my QB and reckoned they'd be good for touring, but have always just stuck with Noodles since I know they work well for me. This ride convinced me that M-bars give plenty of hand positions for comfort and work well on bumpy terrain when riding somewhat heavily loaded. You do need a short stem with M-bars though. My only (minor) complaint about the Nitto rack is that platform is much too far back behind the rear axle, and it is difficult to get weight far enough forward with it due to the tombstone being so far back.Sliding the mounting points forward at the top results in the rack tilting forward at an odd angle. This is strange to me since I ride relatively large frames, and most racks (especially non-adjustable ones) end up tilting backward because of the steep angle of my seat-stays. The Nitto seems more geared toward frames with ultra-short chainstays, or super-tall frames. BUT it is still a ridiculously nice rack though, and I have like 5 inches of heel clearance with it (size 10's) so if you have large feet/ heel clearance issues with your rack it would be a good option.I may go back to the Tubus for future loaded riding, as it seems ideally suited to frames in my size in terms of where the platform is located.I also really like an R14 with the large saddlesack when not riding with panniers. Anyway hope you enjoy the photos. Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Randonnerding totally loaded in Vermont and New Hampshire
Thanks Patrick, and LOL yes the Coronary trail gave me a chuckle. There was also a Coronary By-pass trail but I didn't get a photo of that sign. That was in the Kingdom Trails near Burke VT. On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:08:00 AM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: Wow! Fantastic photos of a grand backroads tour. I presume you are playing the piano you picked up? I particularly loved the Coronary trail. WIth abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:02:17 AM UTC-6, Matt Beebe wrote: Hi All, just thought I'd share some photos from a recent ride to Vermont. I went to the Northeast Kingdom to visit friends not far from the Canadian border, and took a nice route to get there and back. http://www.flickr.com/photos/43029278@N07/sets/72157635839369194/ There are many, many miles of dirt road and snowmobile/ATV trails on the way up there, some smooth, some rocky, but all fun. Even the paved roads are nice. The scenery was gorgeous, and the leaves had begun to change already, especially north of White River Junction.The small towns and nice people in Vermont are the best. The bike handled perfectly, and the only thing that rattled loose was my mudflap(!) toward the end of the trip on a particularly bumpy section. You may notice I only have one water bottle, but that's because I prefer dromedary bags for carrying most of my water- the bottle is just a more convenient vessel to drink from :) This was my first fully loaded ride using moustache bars and the Nitto Large back rack, which I bought from Riv a while ago-I had been using a Tubus Cargo prior to this.I found the M-bars to be fantastic for all-day riding. I had used them before for ~2 hour rides on my QB and reckoned they'd be good for touring, but have always just stuck with Noodles since I know they work well for me. This ride convinced me that M-bars give plenty of hand positions for comfort and work well on bumpy terrain when riding somewhat heavily loaded. You do need a short stem with M-bars though. My only (minor) complaint about the Nitto rack is that platform is much too far back behind the rear axle, and it is difficult to get weight far enough forward with it due to the tombstone being so far back.Sliding the mounting points forward at the top results in the rack tilting forward at an odd angle. This is strange to me since I ride relatively large frames, and most racks (especially non-adjustable ones) end up tilting backward because of the steep angle of my seat-stays. The Nitto seems more geared toward frames with ultra-short chainstays, or super-tall frames. BUT it is still a ridiculously nice rack though, and I have like 5 inches of heel clearance with it (size 10's) so if you have large feet/ heel clearance issues with your rack it would be a good option.I may go back to the Tubus for future loaded riding, as it seems ideally suited to frames in my size in terms of where the platform is located.I also really like an R14 with the large saddlesack when not riding with panniers. Anyway hope you enjoy the photos. Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Challenge Parigi-Robaix tire mounting
I pulled this old thread up because I've become a huge fan of these tires, both tubular and clincher. Velomine has a huge inventory of these now and is selling them for about 2/3 of retail if you call them. They have good buys listed on ebay, but will beat that on the phone. On Monday, November 14, 2011 10:24:20 PM UTC-6, Bill M. wrote: The thinnest rim tape is probably no tape at all. I installed a set of Velocity Veloplugs on my latest set of home-built wheels (A23 rims on White Industries hubs). No issues with them so far, and they can easily be removed and reinstalled if ever needed. http://veloplug.com/ Bill On Nov 14, 9:33 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: A thin rimstrip can make a HUGE difference with tight tyres. The Stan's NoTubes rim tape is a thin nylon material. These have become my go-to rim tape, both for thin-ness and light-ness. One roll will do four 700C wheels (I think), so it works out to be an economical solution, too. They aren't available in thinner dimensions, unfortunately - wide-ish rims only. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Randonnerding totally loaded in Vermont and New Hampshire
You caught Coronary Bypass on the map photo: MAPhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/43029278@N07/9915250356/in/set-72157635839369194 On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:14:58 AM UTC-7, Matt Beebe wrote: Thanks Patrick, and LOL yes the Coronary trail gave me a chuckle. There was also a Coronary By-pass trail but I didn't get a photo of that sign. That was in the Kingdom Trails near Burke VT. On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:08:00 AM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: Wow! Fantastic photos of a grand backroads tour. I presume you are playing the piano you picked up? I particularly loved the Coronary trail. WIth abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:02:17 AM UTC-6, Matt Beebe wrote: Hi All, just thought I'd share some photos from a recent ride to Vermont.I went to the Northeast Kingdom to visit friends not far from the Canadian border, and took a nice route to get there and back. http://www.flickr.com/photos/43029278@N07/sets/72157635839369194/ There are many, many miles of dirt road and snowmobile/ATV trails on the way up there, some smooth, some rocky, but all fun. Even the paved roads are nice. The scenery was gorgeous, and the leaves had begun to change already, especially north of White River Junction.The small towns and nice people in Vermont are the best. The bike handled perfectly, and the only thing that rattled loose was my mudflap(!) toward the end of the trip on a particularly bumpy section. You may notice I only have one water bottle, but that's because I prefer dromedary bags for carrying most of my water- the bottle is just a more convenient vessel to drink from :) This was my first fully loaded ride using moustache bars and the Nitto Large back rack, which I bought from Riv a while ago-I had been using a Tubus Cargo prior to this.I found the M-bars to be fantastic for all-day riding. I had used them before for ~2 hour rides on my QB and reckoned they'd be good for touring, but have always just stuck with Noodles since I know they work well for me. This ride convinced me that M-bars give plenty of hand positions for comfort and work well on bumpy terrain when riding somewhat heavily loaded. You do need a short stem with M-bars though. My only (minor) complaint about the Nitto rack is that platform is much too far back behind the rear axle, and it is difficult to get weight far enough forward with it due to the tombstone being so far back.Sliding the mounting points forward at the top results in the rack tilting forward at an odd angle. This is strange to me since I ride relatively large frames, and most racks (especially non-adjustable ones) end up tilting backward because of the steep angle of my seat-stays. The Nitto seems more geared toward frames with ultra-short chainstays, or super-tall frames. BUT it is still a ridiculously nice rack though, and I have like 5 inches of heel clearance with it (size 10's) so if you have large feet/ heel clearance issues with your rack it would be a good option.I may go back to the Tubus for future loaded riding, as it seems ideally suited to frames in my size in terms of where the platform is located.I also really like an R14 with the large saddlesack when not riding with panniers. Anyway hope you enjoy the photos. Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Randonnerding totally loaded in Vermont and New Hampshire
Matt, we're so glad you had a good time. Too many riders skip the dirt roads of VT, many of which are super for riding on. Even are local riding maps often avoid good dirt roads. If you ever ant to return give me a shout. Michael Westford, VT (where its cloudy, cool, damp, and windy today but otherwise perfect for riding!) On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:02:17 AM UTC-4, Matt Beebe wrote: Hi All, just thought I'd share some photos from a recent ride to Vermont. I went to the Northeast Kingdom to visit friends not far from the Canadian border, and took a nice route to get there and back. http://www.flickr.com/photos/43029278@N07/sets/72157635839369194/ There are many, many miles of dirt road and snowmobile/ATV trails on the way up there, some smooth, some rocky, but all fun. Even the paved roads are nice. The scenery was gorgeous, and the leaves had begun to change already, especially north of White River Junction.The small towns and nice people in Vermont are the best. The bike handled perfectly, and the only thing that rattled loose was my mudflap(!) toward the end of the trip on a particularly bumpy section. You may notice I only have one water bottle, but that's because I prefer dromedary bags for carrying most of my water- the bottle is just a more convenient vessel to drink from :) This was my first fully loaded ride using moustache bars and the Nitto Large back rack, which I bought from Riv a while ago-I had been using a Tubus Cargo prior to this.I found the M-bars to be fantastic for all-day riding. I had used them before for ~2 hour rides on my QB and reckoned they'd be good for touring, but have always just stuck with Noodles since I know they work well for me. This ride convinced me that M-bars give plenty of hand positions for comfort and work well on bumpy terrain when riding somewhat heavily loaded. You do need a short stem with M-bars though. My only (minor) complaint about the Nitto rack is that platform is much too far back behind the rear axle, and it is difficult to get weight far enough forward with it due to the tombstone being so far back.Sliding the mounting points forward at the top results in the rack tilting forward at an odd angle. This is strange to me since I ride relatively large frames, and most racks (especially non-adjustable ones) end up tilting backward because of the steep angle of my seat-stays. The Nitto seems more geared toward frames with ultra-short chainstays, or super-tall frames. BUT it is still a ridiculously nice rack though, and I have like 5 inches of heel clearance with it (size 10's) so if you have large feet/ heel clearance issues with your rack it would be a good option.I may go back to the Tubus for future loaded riding, as it seems ideally suited to frames in my size in terms of where the platform is located.I also really like an R14 with the large saddlesack when not riding with panniers. Anyway hope you enjoy the photos. Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Randonnerding totally loaded in Vermont and New Hampshire
Looks like a wonderful trip! Thanks for sharing Matt, and the bike looks perfect!-Mike Sent from my iPhone On Sep 24, 2013, at 7:02 AM, Matt Beebe matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, just thought I'd share some photos from a recent ride to Vermont. I went to the Northeast Kingdom to visit friends not far from the Canadian border, and took a nice route to get there and back. http://www.flickr.com/photos/43029278@N07/sets/72157635839369194/ There are many, many miles of dirt road and snowmobile/ATV trails on the way up there, some smooth, some rocky, but all fun. Even the paved roads are nice. The scenery was gorgeous, and the leaves had begun to change already, especially north of White River Junction.The small towns and nice people in Vermont are the best. The bike handled perfectly, and the only thing that rattled loose was my mudflap(!) toward the end of the trip on a particularly bumpy section. You may notice I only have one water bottle, but that's because I prefer dromedary bags for carrying most of my water- the bottle is just a more convenient vessel to drink from :) This was my first fully loaded ride using moustache bars and the Nitto Large back rack, which I bought from Riv a while ago-I had been using a Tubus Cargo prior to this.I found the M-bars to be fantastic for all-day riding. I had used them before for ~2 hour rides on my QB and reckoned they'd be good for touring, but have always just stuck with Noodles since I know they work well for me. This ride convinced me that M-bars give plenty of hand positions for comfort and work well on bumpy terrain when riding somewhat heavily loaded. You do need a short stem with M-bars though. My only (minor) complaint about the Nitto rack is that platform is much too far back behind the rear axle, and it is difficult to get weight far enough forward with it due to the tombstone being so far back.Sliding the mounting points forward at the top results in the rack tilting forward at an odd angle. This is strange to me since I ride relatively large frames, and most racks (especially non-adjustable ones) end up tilting backward because of the steep angle of my seat-stays. The Nitto seems more geared toward frames with ultra-short chainstays, or super-tall frames.BUT it is still a ridiculously nice rack though, and I have like 5 inches of heel clearance with it (size 10's) so if you have large feet/ heel clearance issues with your rack it would be a good option.I may go back to the Tubus for future loaded riding, as it seems ideally suited to frames in my size in terms of where the platform is located.I also really like an R14 with the large saddlesack when not riding with panniers. Anyway hope you enjoy the photos. Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: A weekend in the Methow Valley
I have camped many times at the North Cascades Ranger station in Marblemount and hiked around Diablo and Colonial creek areas but have never ridden my bike there - its on the bucket list. Looks like you had a great time and wonderful early fall weather. On Sunday, September 22, 2013 11:33:50 PM UTC-7, Cecily Walker wrote: A group of 7 friends and I took a long weekend trip to the Methow Valley in the North Cascades of Washington. Long before I got a Betty Foy, I dreamed of riding single track, but couldn't find much locally that wasn't very technical trails that required mountain bikes. My friend Kay, a seasoned mountain bike enthusiast, ensured me that the blue trails in the Okanogan National Forest would be a piece of cake for the Betty Foy, and she was right. Here's a map of where we rode: http://www.mvsta.com//images/sunmap_summer.jpg It was my first time doing riding of this sort, and it took some getting used to. The trail was a mixture of large loose gravel, sandy soil, mud, and pine needles over hard packed dirt. To make matters worse, the osteoarthritis in my right knee really flared up a couple of days before the trip, and unfortunately the cortisone shot I had the day before my departure didn't do much for the inflammation. I was undaunted though. Friday morning dawned cool with cerulean blue skies with nary a cloud in sight. The layer of cool air was fairly shallow, because by the time we got our bikes unloaded from the car, things had warmed up enough for me to go on without a jacket. We combined the Beaver Pond and Rodeo trails to do a loop around Beaver Lake. I had some trouble finding the right gear to match the ground conditions at first, but after about the first 20 minutes I seemed to get the hang of things. The only times I had to get off my bike were to push up a couple of short, steep inclines I didn't change gears quickly enough for, and to scale down a rock garden incline that Kay thought might be a bit much for a novice rider on Soma New Express tires. Because I got out to the country and put the Betty Foy through her paces, I feel as if I'm finally a part of the Rivendell club. I'm sad to say that the summer single track season is rapidly coming to a close, but there's always next year! Here are a few photos from the weekend. We stopped a lot on the way to Winthrop, and were particularly taken with the views from Washington Pass. There's a photo of me riding singletrack in the set from the weekend: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cecily/sets/72157635790163246/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Too small MB-3, need help with Dirt Drop, bar rec's
Hi, Tim I'm about the same size as you. I ride a 60cm Hillborne and a 64cm Quickbeam, which both fit great. I had a 21 late-'80s Stumpjumper for a while, but ultimately it was just too small for comfortable 'round-town riding. Then I found virtually the same bike in a 23 size, and that's worked out very well for my needs (bad weather/dark winter night commuting/hauling kids in a trailer). Alba bars work perfectly with the stock stem. There aren't a whole lot of 23 old MTBs out there, but it's worth it to find the right size if old MTBs are your thing. I still wouldn't want to spend more than a couple of hours on it, but it's fun for short rides. http://www.flickr.com/photos/bwedgar/9776886243/ Good luck! Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Randonnerding totally loaded in Vermont and New Hampshire
I always liked the way this bike looked: http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/rbw/pdf/rbw_original_matthewtour.pdf Your new Riv looks even better, though. Looks like a fantastic ride! Best, Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] PSA-No Riv Content-Shimano disk brake recall
I heard on the SF Randonneurs group that there is a Shimano Road Disk Brake caliper recall. The CPSC has a page for it: RECALLhttp://www.cpsc.gov/en/Recalls/2013/Shimano-American-Recalls-Disc-Brake-Calipers/ I know a few posters here ride disk brakes, so I hope that forgives the lack of Riv-content. BE SAFE, everyone! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] WTT: Tubus Logo for Tubus Fly (older black model)
The Logo is VG. The catch: it is missing one strut, $10 shipped from Wayne at The Touring Store dot com. But I think a straight swap is fair since it is also a more expensive rack. I ordered another strut but managed to lose it. If I find it, I'll include it if you, dear swapper, will pay my outbound postage as well as yours. Deal? I think I'll modify the Fly -- by buying strut extenders from Wayne -- for the newly svelte Fargo. Thanks. -- RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED! Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Randonnerding totally loaded in Vermont and New Hampshire
Beautiful bike and fantastic tour Matt. Those Vermont dirt roads are just amazing. So jealous living here in So Cal of that kind of terrain. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Randonnerding totally loaded in Vermont and New Hampshire
Gotta say Matt just a fantastic tour! Really enjoyed the ride report and accompanying photography. Just another one for the bucket list. ~Hugh On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:02:17 AM UTC-7, Matt Beebe wrote: Hi All, just thought I'd share some photos from a recent ride to Vermont. I went to the Northeast Kingdom to visit friends not far from the Canadian border, and took a nice route to get there and back. http://www.flickr.com/photos/43029278@N07/sets/72157635839369194/ There are many, many miles of dirt road and snowmobile/ATV trails on the way up there, some smooth, some rocky, but all fun. Even the paved roads are nice. The scenery was gorgeous, and the leaves had begun to change already, especially north of White River Junction.The small towns and nice people in Vermont are the best. The bike handled perfectly, and the only thing that rattled loose was my mudflap(!) toward the end of the trip on a particularly bumpy section. You may notice I only have one water bottle, but that's because I prefer dromedary bags for carrying most of my water- the bottle is just a more convenient vessel to drink from :) This was my first fully loaded ride using moustache bars and the Nitto Large back rack, which I bought from Riv a while ago-I had been using a Tubus Cargo prior to this.I found the M-bars to be fantastic for all-day riding. I had used them before for ~2 hour rides on my QB and reckoned they'd be good for touring, but have always just stuck with Noodles since I know they work well for me. This ride convinced me that M-bars give plenty of hand positions for comfort and work well on bumpy terrain when riding somewhat heavily loaded. You do need a short stem with M-bars though. My only (minor) complaint about the Nitto rack is that platform is much too far back behind the rear axle, and it is difficult to get weight far enough forward with it due to the tombstone being so far back.Sliding the mounting points forward at the top results in the rack tilting forward at an odd angle. This is strange to me since I ride relatively large frames, and most racks (especially non-adjustable ones) end up tilting backward because of the steep angle of my seat-stays. The Nitto seems more geared toward frames with ultra-short chainstays, or super-tall frames. BUT it is still a ridiculously nice rack though, and I have like 5 inches of heel clearance with it (size 10's) so if you have large feet/ heel clearance issues with your rack it would be a good option.I may go back to the Tubus for future loaded riding, as it seems ideally suited to frames in my size in terms of where the platform is located.I also really like an R14 with the large saddlesack when not riding with panniers. Anyway hope you enjoy the photos. Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: From bar ends to thumbies
I run a Shimano Ultegra BE shifter on a Paul's Thumbie, on my 1x9spd riser-bar commuter. It's my preferred system, and works equally well indexed or in friction. Flawless shifting. My Ram is running the remaining BE pods, fitted with the spacers from Riv and Dura-Ace DT shifters mounted. Also great! KJ On Monday, September 23, 2013 7:33:05 AM UTC-4, Michael Hechmer wrote: Since retiring I have gradually moved my single bikes back from bar ends to down shifters. Now that I don't commute and rarely ride into heavy town traffic I find I prefer the speed and clean looks of DT shifters. But the tandem is still bar end because my stoker doesn't like me letting go of the handle bars, and we're never or rarely needing to shift rapidly. But I am considering switching these to thumbies. Has anyone made this transition, especially with drop bars? With friction? How did it go? Do you like it better or worse? My wife has been enjoying the albatross bars on her half of the tandem and so we have been talking about also switching her single and if I do that maybe I'll install thumbies there too. Do people use this combination and how have they likes it? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Randonnerding totally loaded in Vermont and New Hampshire
Those trails and back roads look amazing. So much variety in the landscape you passed through. Thanks for sharing! KJ On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:02:17 AM UTC-4, Matt Beebe wrote: Hi All, just thought I'd share some photos from a recent ride to Vermont. I went to the Northeast Kingdom to visit friends not far from the Canadian border, and took a nice route to get there and back. http://www.flickr.com/photos/43029278@N07/sets/72157635839369194/ There are many, many miles of dirt road and snowmobile/ATV trails on the way up there, some smooth, some rocky, but all fun. Even the paved roads are nice. The scenery was gorgeous, and the leaves had begun to change already, especially north of White River Junction.The small towns and nice people in Vermont are the best. The bike handled perfectly, and the only thing that rattled loose was my mudflap(!) toward the end of the trip on a particularly bumpy section. You may notice I only have one water bottle, but that's because I prefer dromedary bags for carrying most of my water- the bottle is just a more convenient vessel to drink from :) This was my first fully loaded ride using moustache bars and the Nitto Large back rack, which I bought from Riv a while ago-I had been using a Tubus Cargo prior to this.I found the M-bars to be fantastic for all-day riding. I had used them before for ~2 hour rides on my QB and reckoned they'd be good for touring, but have always just stuck with Noodles since I know they work well for me. This ride convinced me that M-bars give plenty of hand positions for comfort and work well on bumpy terrain when riding somewhat heavily loaded. You do need a short stem with M-bars though. My only (minor) complaint about the Nitto rack is that platform is much too far back behind the rear axle, and it is difficult to get weight far enough forward with it due to the tombstone being so far back.Sliding the mounting points forward at the top results in the rack tilting forward at an odd angle. This is strange to me since I ride relatively large frames, and most racks (especially non-adjustable ones) end up tilting backward because of the steep angle of my seat-stays. The Nitto seems more geared toward frames with ultra-short chainstays, or super-tall frames. BUT it is still a ridiculously nice rack though, and I have like 5 inches of heel clearance with it (size 10's) so if you have large feet/ heel clearance issues with your rack it would be a good option.I may go back to the Tubus for future loaded riding, as it seems ideally suited to frames in my size in terms of where the platform is located.I also really like an R14 with the large saddlesack when not riding with panniers. Anyway hope you enjoy the photos. Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Kenya, Westgate Mall, and cycling 40- years ago
I've been following the tragic attack on the Westlands mall in Nairobi with some keenness because I well remember the area from 40 years ago. When I was in high school the mall had not been built and instead there was a rather pleasant, English-looking garden shopping center, called at the time simply the Westlands Shopping Center. One store in particular stands out because it was a combined toy store and book store where you could get the complete Tintin series. Personal cycling memory: Riding the ~5 miles mostly downhill from the Nairobi International School, American -- run by a private American university at the time; I think it's now a locally governed prep school -- on our bikes, friends and I would take great delight in racing the school bus and, on good days, passing it on the slower downhill corners. We never, AFAIR, beat it to the Westlands dropoff, but we came close. We'd, or I'd, stop and shoot the breeze and smoke cheap cigarettes -- Crown Bird! -- before riding off through the City on a long detour home. This must have been my senior year, '72-3, and I on my newly acquired upscale Raleigh Sprite -- 48/44 half stepped 14-24, tout Simplex Prestige, drop bar, Weinmann centerpulls, cheap Brooks. Total daily mileage including the 7 miles to school: about 23, IIRC, all on totally fast mode. My mother who picked up my sister in the Vauxhall Victor also took my ex-army backpack, saving me the weight (I never did homework anyway). Tempus fugit indeed! Riv content: the Sprite was lugged steel, but I did use clips and straps and had the bar lower than the saddle. -- RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED! Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Anybody put a Large Saddlesack on top of Sackville Panniers?
Thanks, Tom. I was afraid of that type of inconvenience. I appreciate the post and info. Yes, I need to post photos. Now if only I can find a camera and keep it charged! The bane of my life. On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:30:49 PM UTC+7, Tom Harrop wrote: Hi Kip, I haven't tried that specific combo, but I have used Ortlieb panniers on a Tubus rear rack, with my large SaddleSack sitting on top. It worked fine in terms of everything being securely attached etc., but there was zero access to the contents of the panniers without removing the SaddleSack, so it was a matter of loading the panniers, attaching them to the bike, then attaching the SaddleSack. From memory it was possible, if a bit fiddly, to attach or remove the panniers with the SaddleSack already on the rack, but I guess that wouldn't work with Riv-style panniers. Sounds like you've got some great trips planned, don't forget to post some photos! Tom Germany. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Anybody put a Large Saddlesack on top of Sackville Panniers?
Deacon, thanks for the pics. My question was answered perfectly! I think that you're bike is the one I saw in some previous pics. You did that great tour with your daughter, if memory serves. I still plan on the Riv Rendevous in Colorado in two years time. It will be excellent to see your rig in person. Take care. Kip On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:55:29 PM UTC+7, Deacon Patrick wrote: Oops. Meant to add this in my previous post. Pics of the mounting: http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157634073536262/ With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 6:54:42 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: Hey Kip, Yes. See here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/9725707307/. Does it limit access? A bit, but not practicably. As the Large Saddlesack sags its wings, I have to lift it up to get things in and out, but that's not much of a bother, and when I use them, I only put stuff in them that I'll need once at my campsite. Everything I need on the trail is in the Saddlesack. Mounting: I use Irish straps (the short ones) to 1) anchor the panniers to the front of the rack; 2) Anchor the front and back of the Saddlesack to the rack, threading the strap through the leather of the Saddlesack then through the gap in the panniers and their top and under the rack. Once tightened, I've never had to tighten them on a trip, but they all easily come off. I don't know, but imagine the irish straps are easier than zip ties. Enjoy your family trips! With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 5:14:04 AM UTC-6, Kip Otteson wrote: I've been thinking about putting either Sackville Panniers or Frost River Panniers on my Nitto Big Back Rack and then putting the large saddlesack on top of it. I think I've seen this setup before and it would work for me in my role of chief load carrier for the family camping trips. I thought I could get away with just the saddlesack and a front shopsack and front panniers, towing a BOB trailer, but I think I need a little more space. I think the Carsick Panniers look excellent and I'd like to replace my Maddens with them up front. I love the saddlesack and don't want to give that up at all. I have all my tools where I want them and I can answer my phone while riding. The zip pockets that face the rider are very helpful. It seems like where one zip ties the saddlesack to the rack, through the slots on the bottom, they could be strapped to either of the panniers I mentioned above. However, I was wondering how much they would interfere with loading the bags up due to the overhang of the saddlesack? Anybody have any thoughts or experience? We plan on doing a tour of Cambodia this summer and down the Pacific Coast the following year. The wife and six year old with be on a tandem and my 10 year old is on his own bike with panniers. My wife has enough on her plate just negotiating the youngster and her reluctant pedaling without bothering with luggage. Kip Otteson Chiang Mai, Thailand -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Anybody put a Large Saddlesack on top of Sackville Panniers?
Kip Remember that the floor stiffener on your Saddlesack Large is removable. Maybe you don't need the stiffener when the Saddlesack is resting on top of the Toursacks, and without the stiffener, lifting the Saddlesack off of a pannier for access would be a little easier. The Saddlesack would be more like a blob that you could maneuver out of your way. When you're done, just velcro the floor back in. It might be worth a try. :-) On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 2:20:55 PM UTC-7, Kip Otteson wrote: Thanks, Tom. I was afraid of that type of inconvenience. I appreciate the post and info. Yes, I need to post photos. Now if only I can find a camera and keep it charged! The bane of my life. On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:30:49 PM UTC+7, Tom Harrop wrote: Hi Kip, I haven't tried that specific combo, but I have used Ortlieb panniers on a Tubus rear rack, with my large SaddleSack sitting on top. It worked fine in terms of everything being securely attached etc., but there was zero access to the contents of the panniers without removing the SaddleSack, so it was a matter of loading the panniers, attaching them to the bike, then attaching the SaddleSack. From memory it was possible, if a bit fiddly, to attach or remove the panniers with the SaddleSack already on the rack, but I guess that wouldn't work with Riv-style panniers. Sounds like you've got some great trips planned, don't forget to post some photos! Tom Germany. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Too small MB-3, need help with Dirt Drop, bar rec's
Thanks for the tip Mike. I pulled the moustache bar from my Miyata Triplecross. The cables are too short so I'll have to fiddle with those but otherwise I think we could have a good fit. David https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-THHb4ve9uXA/UkIRnh-0s-I/AJs/R8ujiiK1zEk/s1600/Bridgestone-MB-5-with-mustache.jpg On Friday, September 20, 2013 9:41:58 PM UTC-4, Mike Gillespie wrote: I've had good luck using the traditional moustache bar on bikes that are somewhat undersized. If still cramped with a dirt drop stem, you could switch to a technomic for even greater reach. Mike G. On 9/20/13, cyclotourist cyclot...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I'll throw in a counter argument: Set it free, and buy a bike that fits you. I don't know your financial situation, but life is too short to ride an ill-fitting bike (or drink cheap booze). My $.02 On 9/20/13, David Hays 23wr...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Thanks Tim . I'm using a Pentax K-5. I really like the sparrow bar having ridden motorcycles for years with sport or clubman bars. The problem is simply the frame being too small to stretch out for any kind of longer ride. Though I have. I had picked up the bike with the Michelin City tires on it for $50 before I put the rest together. Hopefully next week I'll get a chance to flip the bars. David On Sep 20, 2013, at 1:33 PM, Tim Tetrault ttet...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: David, That is a great picture. What a nice blue. What kind of camera are you using on that? Also, how do you like the Sparrow bars? I had forgotten that I have a set in my spare parts bin and maybe I can combine it with the dirt drop to avoid having the bars come back too far. They look sharp in the negative setting. Tim On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 12:50 PM, David Hays 23wr...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I have a similarly too small MB-5( though I'm 5'8' and I believe the bike is a 42 or 46). It is quite zippy and comfortable for brief rides but doesn't any opportunity to stretch. I'm thinking of flipping the Soma sparrow bars I have on it. Certainly appreciate any suggestions others have. Thanks David Bridgestone-MB-5-.jpg On Sep 19, 2013, at 1:09 PM, Tim Tetrault ttet...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Hey all- I have a nice, sort of beat up but still very usable MB-3 that I bought a few months back that I want to turn into my rainy commuter/singletrack explorer. It's a 21'' frame I believe, and I am 6'2'' with a long inseam. It is rideable, but not comfortable for very long. I'm reaching out to the group for recommendations on a combo bar/stem that could be workable. How much lift would a dirt drop give me with an Alba bar vs. a Bosco? Those Boscos seem huge. I'd like to be able to hang on to this bike and make it work. Seems like it's got a lot of life left in it and my Sam Hilborne remains my main ride. Thanks- Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/Og2wMYxUv6U/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit
Re: [RBW] Too small MB-3, need help with Dirt Drop, bar rec's
David, Looks like you're on your way to getting a newly revised bike! Enjoy!! Mike On 9/24/13, David Hays 23writ...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the tip Mike. I pulled the moustache bar from my Miyata Triplecross. The cables are too short so I'll have to fiddle with those but otherwise I think we could have a good fit. David https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-THHb4ve9uXA/UkIRnh-0s-I/AJs/R8ujiiK1zEk/s1600/Bridgestone-MB-5-with-mustache.jpg On Friday, September 20, 2013 9:41:58 PM UTC-4, Mike Gillespie wrote: I've had good luck using the traditional moustache bar on bikes that are somewhat undersized. If still cramped with a dirt drop stem, you could switch to a technomic for even greater reach. Mike G. On 9/20/13, cyclotourist cyclot...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I'll throw in a counter argument: Set it free, and buy a bike that fits you. I don't know your financial situation, but life is too short to ride an ill-fitting bike (or drink cheap booze). My $.02 On 9/20/13, David Hays 23wr...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Thanks Tim . I'm using a Pentax K-5. I really like the sparrow bar having ridden motorcycles for years with sport or clubman bars. The problem is simply the frame being too small to stretch out for any kind of longer ride. Though I have. I had picked up the bike with the Michelin City tires on it for $50 before I put the rest together. Hopefully next week I'll get a chance to flip the bars. David On Sep 20, 2013, at 1:33 PM, Tim Tetrault ttet...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: David, That is a great picture. What a nice blue. What kind of camera are you using on that? Also, how do you like the Sparrow bars? I had forgotten that I have a set in my spare parts bin and maybe I can combine it with the dirt drop to avoid having the bars come back too far. They look sharp in the negative setting. Tim On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 12:50 PM, David Hays 23wr...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I have a similarly too small MB-5( though I'm 5'8' and I believe the bike is a 42 or 46). It is quite zippy and comfortable for brief rides but doesn't any opportunity to stretch. I'm thinking of flipping the Soma sparrow bars I have on it. Certainly appreciate any suggestions others have. Thanks David Bridgestone-MB-5-.jpg On Sep 19, 2013, at 1:09 PM, Tim Tetrault ttet...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Hey all- I have a nice, sort of beat up but still very usable MB-3 that I bought a few months back that I want to turn into my rainy commuter/singletrack explorer. It's a 21'' frame I believe, and I am 6'2'' with a long inseam. It is rideable, but not comfortable for very long. I'm reaching out to the group for recommendations on a combo bar/stem that could be workable. How much lift would a dirt drop give me with an Alba bar vs. a Bosco? Those Boscos seem huge. I'd like to be able to hang on to this bike and make it work. Seems like it's got a lot of life left in it and my Sam Hilborne remains my main ride. Thanks- Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/Og2wMYxUv6U/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to
[RBW] 59cm Bridgestone XO-2 For Sale in Vancouver $599
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Re: [RBW] Re: Anybody put a Large Saddlesack on top of Sackville Panniers?
Good tip on the floor. I didn't think of that. I'm thinking more and more of going with the Frost River panniers. They seem really nice and a less expensive option. On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 4:25 AM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Kip Remember that the floor stiffener on your Saddlesack Large is removable. Maybe you don't need the stiffener when the Saddlesack is resting on top of the Toursacks, and without the stiffener, lifting the Saddlesack off of a pannier for access would be a little easier. The Saddlesack would be more like a blob that you could maneuver out of your way. When you're done, just velcro the floor back in. It might be worth a try. :-) On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 2:20:55 PM UTC-7, Kip Otteson wrote: Thanks, Tom. I was afraid of that type of inconvenience. I appreciate the post and info. Yes, I need to post photos. Now if only I can find a camera and keep it charged! The bane of my life. On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:30:49 PM UTC+7, Tom Harrop wrote: Hi Kip, I haven't tried that specific combo, but I have used Ortlieb panniers on a Tubus rear rack, with my large SaddleSack sitting on top. It worked fine in terms of everything being securely attached etc., but there was zero access to the contents of the panniers without removing the SaddleSack, so it was a matter of loading the panniers, attaching them to the bike, then attaching the SaddleSack. From memory it was possible, if a bit fiddly, to attach or remove the panniers with the SaddleSack already on the rack, but I guess that wouldn't work with Riv-style panniers. Sounds like you've got some great trips planned, don't forget to post some photos! Tom Germany. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/2fTi202OBpI/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: A weekend in the Methow Valley
Cicily, Looks just fantastic. Great way to celebrate a birthday in fact my favorite way! Thanks for the share and enjoy Betty which is an instant classic. ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: A weekend in the Methow Valley
Ryan, some friends did the Easy Pass/Fisher Creek trails over the weekend. Unfortunately I wasn't in any shape to join them. The photos they brought back made me pea green with envy. They said the views were so stunning that they ran out of adjectives. On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 9:11:19 AM UTC-7, RoadieRyan wrote: I have camped many times at the North Cascades Ranger station in Marblemount and hiked around Diablo and Colonial creek areas but have never ridden my bike there - its on the bucket list. Looks like you had a great time and wonderful early fall weather. On Sunday, September 22, 2013 11:33:50 PM UTC-7, Cecily Walker wrote: A group of 7 friends and I took a long weekend trip to the Methow Valley in the North Cascades of Washington. Long before I got a Betty Foy, I dreamed of riding single track, but couldn't find much locally that wasn't very technical trails that required mountain bikes. My friend Kay, a seasoned mountain bike enthusiast, ensured me that the blue trails in the Okanogan National Forest would be a piece of cake for the Betty Foy, and she was right. Here's a map of where we rode: http://www.mvsta.com//images/sunmap_summer.jpg It was my first time doing riding of this sort, and it took some getting used to. The trail was a mixture of large loose gravel, sandy soil, mud, and pine needles over hard packed dirt. To make matters worse, the osteoarthritis in my right knee really flared up a couple of days before the trip, and unfortunately the cortisone shot I had the day before my departure didn't do much for the inflammation. I was undaunted though. Friday morning dawned cool with cerulean blue skies with nary a cloud in sight. The layer of cool air was fairly shallow, because by the time we got our bikes unloaded from the car, things had warmed up enough for me to go on without a jacket. We combined the Beaver Pond and Rodeo trails to do a loop around Beaver Lake. I had some trouble finding the right gear to match the ground conditions at first, but after about the first 20 minutes I seemed to get the hang of things. The only times I had to get off my bike were to push up a couple of short, steep inclines I didn't change gears quickly enough for, and to scale down a rock garden incline that Kay thought might be a bit much for a novice rider on Soma New Express tires. Because I got out to the country and put the Betty Foy through her paces, I feel as if I'm finally a part of the Rivendell club. I'm sad to say that the summer single track season is rapidly coming to a close, but there's always next year! Here are a few photos from the weekend. We stopped a lot on the way to Winthrop, and were particularly taken with the views from Washington Pass. There's a photo of me riding singletrack in the set from the weekend: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cecily/sets/72157635790163246/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [RBW] Re: Anybody put a Large Saddlesack on top of Sackville Panniers?
Kip: If you do decide on the FR panniers, and would like to save some $$$, I have an unused set I'd be willing to part with. Tom From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kip Otteson Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:09 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Anybody put a Large Saddlesack on top of Sackville Panniers? Good tip on the floor. I didn't think of that. I'm thinking more and more of going with the Frost River panniers. They seem really nice and a less expensive option. On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 4:25 AM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.commailto:tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Kip Remember that the floor stiffener on your Saddlesack Large is removable. Maybe you don't need the stiffener when the Saddlesack is resting on top of the Toursacks, and without the stiffener, lifting the Saddlesack off of a pannier for access would be a little easier. The Saddlesack would be more like a blob that you could maneuver out of your way. When you're done, just velcro the floor back in. It might be worth a try. :-) On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 2:20:55 PM UTC-7, Kip Otteson wrote: Thanks, Tom. I was afraid of that type of inconvenience. I appreciate the post and info. Yes, I need to post photos. Now if only I can find a camera and keep it charged! The bane of my life. On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:30:49 PM UTC+7, Tom Harrop wrote: Hi Kip, I haven't tried that specific combo, but I have used Ortlieb panniers on a Tubus rear rack, with my large SaddleSack sitting on top. It worked fine in terms of everything being securely attached etc., but there was zero access to the contents of the panniers without removing the SaddleSack, so it was a matter of loading the panniers, attaching them to the bike, then attaching the SaddleSack. From memory it was possible, if a bit fiddly, to attach or remove the panniers with the SaddleSack already on the rack, but I guess that wouldn't work with Riv-style panniers. Sounds like you've got some great trips planned, don't forget to post some photos! Tom Germany. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/2fTi202OBpI/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving
Re: [RBW] Re: Connecting Toplight Line Plus to SON/Edeluxe
Success. Thanks. Now I need to find a better way to route the power wire ro the rear lamp -- now, down d tube under bb along left stay up left rack strut to rear lamp which bolts to end of rack. Can't use fender because fender is seasonal. Should I drill holes in the frame? And rAck tubing? I am at least partly serious. Patrick Moore iPhone On Sep 21, 2013, at 8:40 AM, Stephen S elphk...@gmail.com wrote: There is a hole on the bottom of the edelux, The power lead comes out of there. You need to completely heatshrink around a 2.8mm plug so that it doesn't ground to the Edelux's frame. For the ground the Edelux should have come with a ring terminal that can ground to the outside of the Edelux's budy when it is bolted to whatever attachment point you choose. According to the instructions the ground is not required. See the instructions located here : http://www.nabendynamo.de/produkte/pdf/english/Montage_Edelux_e.pdf Stephen On Saturday, September 21, 2013 7:06:00 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: The Edeluxe has no second cable for the rear lamp, as does the Cyo: just one that runs to the prongs on the hub. The Toplight Line Plus has two prongs, one for power, one for ground. I suppose I attach the ground to a wire running to bare metal on the frame, but how do I attach the power wire to the hub? Do I have to run the wire directly to one of the SON (20R) prongs? Thanks. -- RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED! Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] ISO 26 Tour Wheelset.
Hi Rivsters, ISO 26 touring Wheelset 8/9 speed hub body. I'm on a budget so something with LX / XT Hubs, Mavic or Velocity rims would be great. Perhaps, you have a second set hanging around and they're just gathering dust? Or you were deciding to upgrade to a White Industries or Phil set. Also looking for 9 speed bar end sifters. Figured I'd cast a line and see what came back. ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Connecting Toplight Line Plus to SON/Edeluxe
I once asked Tony Pereira about drilling a hole in a lug for wiring, and he said no. Jan Heine has written it up somewhere before, though, and thinks it's OK if the hole is kept small and deburred. I remember seeing former lister Ed Brayley's neatly drilled and grommeted Saluki. I've been very tempted, and even bought some jeweler's files at one point, but so far Tony's admonition has kept me unholy. Best. joe broach portland, or On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Bertin753 bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Success. Thanks. Now I need to find a better way to route the power wire ro the rear lamp -- now, down d tube under bb along left stay up left rack strut to rear lamp which bolts to end of rack. Can't use fender because fender is seasonal. Should I drill holes in the frame? And rAck tubing? I am at least partly serious. Patrick Moore iPhone On Sep 21, 2013, at 8:40 AM, Stephen S elphk...@gmail.com wrote: There is a hole on the bottom of the edelux, The power lead comes out of there. You need to completely heatshrink around a 2.8mm plug so that it doesn't ground to the Edelux's frame. For the ground the Edelux should have come with a ring terminal that can ground to the outside of the Edelux's budy when it is bolted to whatever attachment point you choose. According to the instructions the ground is not required. See the instructions located here : http://www.nabendynamo.de/produkte/pdf/english/Montage_Edelux_e.pdf Stephen On Saturday, September 21, 2013 7:06:00 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: The Edeluxe has no second cable for the rear lamp, as does the Cyo: just one that runs to the prongs on the hub. The Toplight Line Plus has two prongs, one for power, one for ground. I suppose I attach the ground to a wire running to bare metal on the frame, but how do I attach the power wire to the hub? Do I have to run the wire directly to one of the SON (20R) prongs? Thanks. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@**resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/**patrickmooreresumespec/http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Connecting Toplight Line Plus to SON/Edeluxe
I run mine across the top tube down to where the light is mounted on the fender. If I decide to run without fenders than I'll just use a battery powered clip-on rear light. It isn't pretty but it's functional. I found that if you can get the cable fairly taught that it isn't as noticeable. You could also consider some of the learnings from Lovely Bicycle on the subject. http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2011/11/aftermarket-dynamo-lights-clean-look.html On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 5:55:36 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Success. Thanks. Now I need to find a better way to route the power wire ro the rear lamp -- now, down d tube under bb along left stay up left rack strut to rear lamp which bolts to end of rack. Can't use fender because fender is seasonal. Should I drill holes in the frame? And rAck tubing? I am at least partly serious. Patrick Moore iPhone On Sep 21, 2013, at 8:40 AM, Stephen S elph...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: There is a hole on the bottom of the edelux, The power lead comes out of there. You need to completely heatshrink around a 2.8mm plug so that it doesn't ground to the Edelux's frame. For the ground the Edelux should have come with a ring terminal that can ground to the outside of the Edelux's budy when it is bolted to whatever attachment point you choose. According to the instructions the ground is not required. See the instructions located here : http://www.nabendynamo.de/produkte/pdf/english/Montage_Edelux_e.pdf Stephen On Saturday, September 21, 2013 7:06:00 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: The Edeluxe has no second cable for the rear lamp, as does the Cyo: just one that runs to the prongs on the hub. The Toplight Line Plus has two prongs, one for power, one for ground. I suppose I attach the ground to a wire running to bare metal on the frame, but how do I attach the power wire to the hub? Do I have to run the wire directly to one of the SON (20R) prongs? Thanks. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] ISO 26 Tour Wheelset.
Nice set in Irvine: http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/bik/4082770016.html If you only knew someone in Irvine... On 9/24/13, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rivsters, ISO 26 touring Wheelset 8/9 speed hub body. I'm on a budget so something with LX / XT Hubs, Mavic or Velocity rims would be great. Perhaps, you have a second set hanging around and they're just gathering dust? Or you were deciding to upgrade to a White Industries or Phil set. Also looking for 9 speed bar end sifters. Figured I'd cast a line and see what came back. ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Challenge Parigi-Robaix tire mounting
What did Grant tell me once when discussing a rack-mounting issue with bling brakes? High-class parts provide high-class problems. This being said while I stretch out some Eroica tires half-mounted on a wheelset... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
