date:20140110

Plus I steel wooled all the rustiness off the steel parts. This is the one
part where I didn't go at the aluminum aggressively.

On Friday, January 10, 2014 6:24:20 AM UTC-8, Paul Clifton wrote:

That's looking really nice. Please keep updating.

Did you just clean up the rear derailer with a brush, rag and solvent?

On Thursday, January 9, 2014 7:27:02 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:

Windsorhttp://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2F45758191%40N04%2Fsets%2F72157638367153736%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNH7qECsC-ryNw75NXctM3929F2zEw

Tonights session will be lining the chrome headlugs and
filing/sanding/polishing a brake caliper.

On Sunday, January 5, 2014 9:05:02 AM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:

I'm a big fan of reflective and glow in the dark tape. Conspicuity is a
big deal. But I'm already fine with my taping skills. I'm trying expand
my skillset into pinstriping. I can have both.

[RBW] San Diego Powdercoater?

2014-01-10 Thread David Yu Greenblatt

Anybody know of a good bike frame powdercoater in the San Diego region?

Thanks,

David G in SD

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[RBW] Re: Training ride today on Bleriot.

Hi Tony,

It is the DC Randonneurs' 65 mile training ride in Glen Echo, MD on 1/25. 
I am not sure what they are officially calling it. It was supposed to be 
listed on their site so folks could register but I don't see anything yet.

I hope I can go. But those tendons where the thighs meet the abdomen 
(iliacs?) are killing me!
During the ride, they started hurting, but I figured they would work 
themselves out. But they didn't.
That has never happened to me before. I hope I am ok.
For now, walking and going up steps is tough. Any leg lifting movement 
hurts.
I hope I can ride again soon.
I don't know why my legs are acting this way. Maybe my body is not used to 
being on the upright bike. Been riding the drop bar Sam 99.9% of the time 
since August.


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[RBW] Re: Speaking of Off-Pavent Rides... Come to Redlands this Spring!

Getting more and more legit by the moment! Official registration is now
open, hosted by the Inland Empire Biking
Alliancehttp://www.iebikingalliance.org/content.aspx?page_id=87club_id=961736item_id=321339!
This isn't an organized ride with numbers or anything, and it's all on
public roads so anyone can just show up and ride (Just Ride!), but we're
trying to get an idea of how many participants there will be. This will
help with general planning, as well as the post-ride festivities! So please
take a moment and register at the IEBA page!
http://www.iebikingalliance.org/content.aspx?page_id=87club_id=961736item_id=321339

Again, the main info page is http://redlands-strada-rossa.blogspot.com

And most up to date map is:
http://www.mapmyride.com/us/redlands-ca/redlands-strada-rossa-100k-route-296421965

Cheers,
David

it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal

On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 6:14 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

Over the years, the SoCal chapter of the Rivendell Bicycle
Appreciation Society has put on a lot of great rides!

I've loved EVERY one I've been on, and met a lot of greatpeople.
They've actually lead to some pretty good friendships IRL, which is
the best part of them. The other thing I love is seeing new areas of
the state I've never been to. Amazing to explore back-country from San
Diego to Ventura with the above-mentioned folks.

I also love the idea of the organized rides/brevets/populairs that are
happening like the D2R2 in Vermont, and La Ruta Loca in the Bay Area.

So I think to myself: Why not combine the two? Which gives us this:
http://redlands-strada-rossa.blogspot.com/

Some locals and I are trying to put on an organized ride, that shows
the best of Inland Southern California in the Spring, and keeps people
on as much dirt as possible. The rest is majority back/rural roads.
Many of the SoCal rides have been on parts of this route, but this
links the segments together in an amazing loop that comes out at just
about 100km.

A decent amount of climbing to keep folks honest, but there are no
chest-bursters. Some singletrack as well. Not terrible technical, but
1km section of climbing that may cause some walking. Not a biggie.

The vibe aimed for his an extended Riv-Ride. There are no timing
devices, no podium spots, no t-shirts, just the knowledge that it'll
be good people on a good route.

And it's free! Not a money-maker, either for for profit or charity.
Just a good ride! I am trying to arrange a post-ride meal and party
hosted by the Redlands Bike BBQ http://www.bikebbq.com/ that will be a
donations-only set up. They're good people and I'd like to help them
out, but again, that's not the point of the ride.

So long/short: The ride is on March 15th, 2014. Weather should be
great. I hope many of you can make it here for this. Cheap/clean/safe
hotels in town. Quaint historic downtown to walk around and lots of
Victorian, Arts Crafts, MCM homes to look at for significant others
that may not be into the whole 100km bike ride thing.

Oh, and two independent breweries in town as well. Just thought I'd
mention that!

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it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal

Re: [RBW] Re: Mixte frame design question

Step through the frame to mount, rather than swinging a leg up around the
back. Much more civilized.

Cheers,
David

it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Serious question: What's the point of a mixte if you don't wear skirts? To
 put it another way: why are they so popular?

 Patrick Moore, who has owned at least two with the extra stays and dual
 down tubes.


 On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Pam Ellen Hudson pammieel...@gmail.comwrote:

 I will say, as the owner of a double tube mixte custom from Royal H (the
 lovelybike frame that was stolen but I got back!).  The bike is unusually
 flexible at high speeds going downhill.  There is quite a bit of flex in
 the frame generally.  I will test it out with lowered panniers in the next
 month and let me know of the results.  My frame is simply pristine -- but I
 had always been a roadie -- so for me the difference was significant.  I
 think that makes the mixte frame not the best choice for rando events or
 touring -- it does make a good commuter and is good for long rides though.

 My thoughts.

 On Jan 9, 2014, at 6:44 AM, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote:

  I meant to say that I prefer the looks of the double lateral tube
 style of step through bike than the single diagatube style.  :)

  SOMA Buena Vista is a nice double lateral tube design.
 http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8348/8261188891_959b6b76ea_o.jpg

 The double tubes look nice and from the right builder can be a decent
 bike.  A lot of those double tubes are very flexible though and not in the
 planing sort of way.  Riv (and others) single tube down tends to make a
 stronger bike.

 On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 7:04:20 PM UTC-6, Tim Gavin wrote:

 I didn't mean to start a pedantic discussion around the term mixte:
 (but thanks for the background info, Jan and co.)  Though I used it with
 what seems to be a widely held distinction (at least in US).

 I meant to say that I prefer the looks of the double lateral tube
 style of step through bike than the single diagatube style.  :)

 SOMA Buena Vista is a nice double lateral tube design.
 http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8348/8261188891_959b6b76ea_o.jpg


 On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Jan Heine hei...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Interestingly, mixte seems to have a clear definition more in the
 U.S. than in France. Of the great constructeurs, I've only seen the term
 mixte used in the Goéland catalogue. Most speak of vélo dame or similar
 terms.

 Regarding the frame design, the twin-diagonal-tubed mixte was invented
 by A. Sixt in the 1930s, as a more triangulated design that was intended to
 make the frame stiffer than the traditional women's frames with a deeply
 dropped or even curved diagonal tube. He also used twin diagonal tubes to
 stiffen tandem frames.

 Around 1938, the great constructeur Reyhand developed a more
 sophisticated frame design, with a dropped single top tube and two extra
 seatstays. In profile, it looks similar to the twin-diagonal-tubed frame.
 To stiffen the connection at the center of the frame, the extra stays
 extend beyond the seat tube and attach to the diagonal tube as well. André
 Reiss, the maker of Reynand, patented this design, as well as a tandem
 frame with two sets of diagonal reinforcement stays (one set from the head
 tube to the rear BB, the other from the front seat lug to the rear
 dropouts). After Reiss died in World War II, the designs were widely 
 copied.

 You can see examples of these designs in the Bicycle Quarterly Image
 Archive at

 http://www.bikequarterly.com/color_photo_supplement.html

 The twin-diagonal-tubed mixte was much easier to make, and thus
 remained popular among mass producers. I don't think Sheldon Brown was even
 aware of the second Reyhand type when he coined his definition of mixte,
 but he was thinking of women's frames with either a dropped top tube with
 no extra rear stays (which puts bending loads on the seat tube and thus
 offends engineers) or the twin-diagonal-tubed mixte. More recently,
 Rivendell inspired its mixtes on the Reyhand type, but without extending
 the extra stays beyond the seat tube.

 Jan Heine
 Editor
 Bicycle Quarterly
 www.bikequarterly.com

 Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/

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Re: [RBW] Re: Mixte frame design question

Perhaps it was actually three, the third a Le Tour with single down tube
but extra stays. The two others were Nishikis.


On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Serious question: What's the point of a mixte if you don't wear skirts? To
 put it another way: why are they so popular?

 Patrick Moore, who has owned at least two with the extra stays and dual
 down tubes.


 On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Pam Ellen Hudson pammieel...@gmail.comwrote:

 I will say, as the owner of a double tube mixte custom from Royal H (the
 lovelybike frame that was stolen but I got back!).  The bike is unusually
 flexible at high speeds going downhill.  There is quite a bit of flex in
 the frame generally.  I will test it out with lowered panniers in the next
 month and let me know of the results.  My frame is simply pristine -- but I
 had always been a roadie -- so for me the difference was significant.  I
 think that makes the mixte frame not the best choice for rando events or
 touring -- it does make a good commuter and is good for long rides though.

 My thoughts.

 On Jan 9, 2014, at 6:44 AM, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote:

  I meant to say that I prefer the looks of the double lateral tube
 style of step through bike than the single diagatube style.  :)

  SOMA Buena Vista is a nice double lateral tube design.
 http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8348/8261188891_959b6b76ea_o.jpg

 The double tubes look nice and from the right builder can be a decent
 bike.  A lot of those double tubes are very flexible though and not in the
 planing sort of way.  Riv (and others) single tube down tends to make a
 stronger bike.

 On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 7:04:20 PM UTC-6, Tim Gavin wrote:

 I didn't mean to start a pedantic discussion around the term mixte:
 (but thanks for the background info, Jan and co.)  Though I used it with
 what seems to be a widely held distinction (at least in US).

 I meant to say that I prefer the looks of the double lateral tube
 style of step through bike than the single diagatube style.  :)

 SOMA Buena Vista is a nice double lateral tube design.
 http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8348/8261188891_959b6b76ea_o.jpg


 On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Jan Heine hei...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Interestingly, mixte seems to have a clear definition more in the
 U.S. than in France. Of the great constructeurs, I've only seen the term
 mixte used in the Goéland catalogue. Most speak of vélo dame or similar
 terms.

 Regarding the frame design, the twin-diagonal-tubed mixte was invented
 by A. Sixt in the 1930s, as a more triangulated design that was intended to
 make the frame stiffer than the traditional women's frames with a deeply
 dropped or even curved diagonal tube. He also used twin diagonal tubes to
 stiffen tandem frames.

 Around 1938, the great constructeur Reyhand developed a more
 sophisticated frame design, with a dropped single top tube and two extra
 seatstays. In profile, it looks similar to the twin-diagonal-tubed frame.
 To stiffen the connection at the center of the frame, the extra stays
 extend beyond the seat tube and attach to the diagonal tube as well. André
 Reiss, the maker of Reynand, patented this design, as well as a tandem
 frame with two sets of diagonal reinforcement stays (one set from the head
 tube to the rear BB, the other from the front seat lug to the rear
 dropouts). After Reiss died in World War II, the designs were widely 
 copied.

 You can see examples of these designs in the Bicycle Quarterly Image
 Archive at

 http://www.bikequarterly.com/color_photo_supplement.html

 The twin-diagonal-tubed mixte was much easier to make, and thus
 remained popular among mass producers. I don't think Sheldon Brown was even
 aware of the second Reyhand type when he coined his definition of mixte,
 but he was thinking of women's frames with either a dropped top tube with
 no extra rear stays (which puts bending loads on the seat tube and thus
 offends engineers) or the twin-diagonal-tubed mixte. More recently,
 Rivendell inspired its mixtes on the Reyhand type, but without extending
 the extra stays beyond the seat tube.

 Jan Heine
 Editor
 Bicycle Quarterly
 www.bikequarterly.com

 Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/

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Re: [RBW] Re: Mixte frame design question

Serious question: What's the point of a mixte if you don't wear skirts? To
put it another way: why are they so popular?

Patrick Moore, who has owned at least two with the extra stays and dual
down tubes.


On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Pam Ellen Hudson pammieel...@gmail.comwrote:

 I will say, as the owner of a double tube mixte custom from Royal H (the
 lovelybike frame that was stolen but I got back!).  The bike is unusually
 flexible at high speeds going downhill.  There is quite a bit of flex in
 the frame generally.  I will test it out with lowered panniers in the next
 month and let me know of the results.  My frame is simply pristine -- but I
 had always been a roadie -- so for me the difference was significant.  I
 think that makes the mixte frame not the best choice for rando events or
 touring -- it does make a good commuter and is good for long rides though.

 My thoughts.

 On Jan 9, 2014, at 6:44 AM, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote:

  I meant to say that I prefer the looks of the double lateral tube
 style of step through bike than the single diagatube style.  :)

  SOMA Buena Vista is a nice double lateral tube design.
 http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8348/8261188891_959b6b76ea_o.jpg

 The double tubes look nice and from the right builder can be a decent
 bike.  A lot of those double tubes are very flexible though and not in the
 planing sort of way.  Riv (and others) single tube down tends to make a
 stronger bike.

 On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 7:04:20 PM UTC-6, Tim Gavin wrote:

 I didn't mean to start a pedantic discussion around the term mixte:
 (but thanks for the background info, Jan and co.)  Though I used it with
 what seems to be a widely held distinction (at least in US).

 I meant to say that I prefer the looks of the double lateral tube style
 of step through bike than the single diagatube style.  :)

 SOMA Buena Vista is a nice double lateral tube design.
 http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8348/8261188891_959b6b76ea_o.jpg


 On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Jan Heine hei...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Interestingly, mixte seems to have a clear definition more in the U.S.
 than in France. Of the great constructeurs, I've only seen the term mixte
 used in the Goéland catalogue. Most speak of vélo dame or similar terms.

 Regarding the frame design, the twin-diagonal-tubed mixte was invented
 by A. Sixt in the 1930s, as a more triangulated design that was intended to
 make the frame stiffer than the traditional women's frames with a deeply
 dropped or even curved diagonal tube. He also used twin diagonal tubes to
 stiffen tandem frames.

 Around 1938, the great constructeur Reyhand developed a more
 sophisticated frame design, with a dropped single top tube and two extra
 seatstays. In profile, it looks similar to the twin-diagonal-tubed frame.
 To stiffen the connection at the center of the frame, the extra stays
 extend beyond the seat tube and attach to the diagonal tube as well. André
 Reiss, the maker of Reynand, patented this design, as well as a tandem
 frame with two sets of diagonal reinforcement stays (one set from the head
 tube to the rear BB, the other from the front seat lug to the rear
 dropouts). After Reiss died in World War II, the designs were widely copied.

 You can see examples of these designs in the Bicycle Quarterly Image
 Archive at

 http://www.bikequarterly.com/color_photo_supplement.html

 The twin-diagonal-tubed mixte was much easier to make, and thus remained
 popular among mass producers. I don't think Sheldon Brown was even aware of
 the second Reyhand type when he coined his definition of mixte, but he
 was thinking of women's frames with either a dropped top tube with no extra
 rear stays (which puts bending loads on the seat tube and thus offends
 engineers) or the twin-diagonal-tubed mixte. More recently, Rivendell
 inspired its mixtes on the Reyhand type, but without extending the extra
 stays beyond the seat tube.

 Jan Heine
 Editor
 Bicycle Quarterly
 www.bikequarterly.com

 Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/

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Re: [RBW] Re: Mixte frame design question

I guess it would be useful if you are sufficiently flexible. I could never
lift my knee high enough to get it comfortably over the diagonal tubes
without danger of catching my toes and falling over.

BTW, skirt include kilts.


On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 9:50 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 Step through the frame to mount, rather than swinging a leg up around the
 back. Much more civilized.

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote:

 Serious question: What's the point of a mixte if you don't wear skirts?
 To put it another way: why are they so popular?

 Patrick Moore, who has owned at least two with the extra stays and dual
 down tubes.


 On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Pam Ellen Hudson 
 pammieel...@gmail.comwrote:

 I will say, as the owner of a double tube mixte custom from Royal H (the
 lovelybike frame that was stolen but I got back!).  The bike is unusually
 flexible at high speeds going downhill.  There is quite a bit of flex in
 the frame generally.  I will test it out with lowered panniers in the next
 month and let me know of the results.  My frame is simply pristine -- but I
 had always been a roadie -- so for me the difference was significant.  I
 think that makes the mixte frame not the best choice for rando events or
 touring -- it does make a good commuter and is good for long rides though.

 My thoughts.

 On Jan 9, 2014, at 6:44 AM, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote:

  I meant to say that I prefer the looks of the double lateral tube
 style of step through bike than the single diagatube style.  :)

  SOMA Buena Vista is a nice double lateral tube design.
 http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8348/8261188891_959b6b76ea_o.jpg

 The double tubes look nice and from the right builder can be a decent
 bike.  A lot of those double tubes are very flexible though and not in the
 planing sort of way.  Riv (and others) single tube down tends to make a
 stronger bike.

 On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 7:04:20 PM UTC-6, Tim Gavin wrote:

 I didn't mean to start a pedantic discussion around the term mixte:
 (but thanks for the background info, Jan and co.)  Though I used it with
 what seems to be a widely held distinction (at least in US).

 I meant to say that I prefer the looks of the double lateral tube
 style of step through bike than the single diagatube style.  :)

 SOMA Buena Vista is a nice double lateral tube design.
 http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8348/8261188891_959b6b76ea_o.jpg


 On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Jan Heine hei...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Interestingly, mixte seems to have a clear definition more in the
 U.S. than in France. Of the great constructeurs, I've only seen the term
 mixte used in the Goéland catalogue. Most speak of vélo dame or 
 similar
 terms.

 Regarding the frame design, the twin-diagonal-tubed mixte was invented
 by A. Sixt in the 1930s, as a more triangulated design that was intended 
 to
 make the frame stiffer than the traditional women's frames with a deeply
 dropped or even curved diagonal tube. He also used twin diagonal tubes to
 stiffen tandem frames.

 Around 1938, the great constructeur Reyhand developed a more
 sophisticated frame design, with a dropped single top tube and two extra
 seatstays. In profile, it looks similar to the twin-diagonal-tubed frame.
 To stiffen the connection at the center of the frame, the extra stays
 extend beyond the seat tube and attach to the diagonal tube as well. André
 Reiss, the maker of Reynand, patented this design, as well as a tandem
 frame with two sets of diagonal reinforcement stays (one set from the head
 tube to the rear BB, the other from the front seat lug to the rear
 dropouts). After Reiss died in World War II, the designs were widely 
 copied.

 You can see examples of these designs in the Bicycle Quarterly Image
 Archive at

 http://www.bikequarterly.com/color_photo_supplement.html

 The twin-diagonal-tubed mixte was much easier to make, and thus
 remained popular among mass producers. I don't think Sheldon Brown was 
 even
 aware of the second Reyhand type when he coined his definition of mixte,
 but he was thinking of women's frames with either a dropped top tube with
 no extra rear stays (which puts bending loads on the seat tube and thus
 offends engineers) or the twin-diagonal-tubed mixte. More recently,
 Rivendell inspired its mixtes on the Reyhand type, but without extending
 the extra stays beyond the seat tube.

 Jan Heine
 Editor
 Bicycle Quarterly
 www.bikequarterly.com

 Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/

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RE: [RBW] Re: Regarding Seth Vidal

Eunice:

Thank you for sharing this sad news.  I think of Seth often - every time I see 
a message from someone on this list with the tag from Seth: Life is not a 
contest.  Enjoy the ride.  And when I think of the fascinating e-conversations 
I had with Seth, I can see how your loss could be as great as you 
heartbreakingly described it.  My thoughts and hopes are with you.

Tom

From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eunice Chang
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 10:16 AM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: Regarding Seth Vidal

I thought some of you might be interested in an update about Seth's case. 
Yesterday was the sentencing/verdict.

http://www.wral.com/man-pleads-guilty-in-durham-bicyclist-s-hit-and-run-death/13282993/

http://www.heraldsun.com/news/showcase/x1401031508/Man-sentenced-to-12-to-24-months-in-bikers-death

http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/01/08/3516480/hit-and-run-driver-to-serve-1.html

Eunice


On Saturday, July 20, 2013 9:43:34 PM UTC-4, Eunice Chang wrote:
Hi-

You don't know me, but I'm Seth's partner Eunice. I have debated sending this, 
because I'm not really a Riv owner but thought you all might want to know.

The bike he rode when he was killed was his Romulus. I don't know where it is, 
but it's probably being held for evidence.

The other Riv bike he had, the Hilsen, was displayed prominently at his 
memorial service.

I also wanted to thank you for your condolences.

-Eunice




On Tuesday, July 9, 2013 1:24:45 PM UTC-4, Jack wrote:
Friends,

I am deeply saddened to share the news with you that my friend and longtime Riv 
owner and active RBW list participant Seth Vidal was killed by a hit and run 
driver last night here in Durham, NC.

The latest info about the tragedy is here:
http://www.wral.com/bicyclist-killed-in-durham-hit-and-run/12639104/
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/localid=9166340

Kind regards
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RE: [RBW] Re: The Utility of Mulitple Wheelset's

I have at least 4 front hubs for the same reason.  Maybe I could make a wagon 
with 20 inch wheels?  But how to work out the axle attachment?

From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
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Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 9:57 AM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: The Utility of Mulitple Wheelset's

Yeah, I seem to end up with a surplus of front hubs from swap-outs (to replace 
with a dynamo)... One day I'm going to assemble some kind of Franken-creation 
utilizing these unwanted front hubs...

I also have old Uniglide cassette bodies that I wonder if they will every have 
some use in the future...  NAH

On Tuesday, January 7, 2014 6:28:14 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
True.  Especially considering that perfectly good normal front hubs are 
practically free on the second hand market.

On Tuesday, January 7, 2014 2:55:16 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:
On 01/07/2014 05:51 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:
 It gets a lot more costly to run multiple wheelsets when dynamo hubs
 come into play.  When there's a $300 hub in the equation, it's more
 motivation to just do the tire swap when you need to.  Maybe that
 motivates some to make sure that the dynamo wheel can interchangeably
 run on different bikes, but that's different from running multiple
 wheels on one bike

One popular use for multiple wheels would be to not use the generator
hub on a given bike when no nighttime operation was contemplated, but
rather to swap in a plain old wheel.  This would reduce mileage on the
generator hub, sparing the more expensive (and not user serviceable) wheel.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Mixte frame design question

Live on the floor for 21 days and you'll be lifting your foot however high 
you'd like. I often just go over the top bar with my foot rather than swing 
round back (especially loaded for touring). Who knows? It might even help 
you get back the foot you left in your mouth believing skirt includes 
kilts. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, January 10, 2014 9:52:34 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I guess it would be useful if you are sufficiently flexible. I could never 
 lift my knee high enough to get it comfortably over the diagonal tubes 
 without danger of catching my toes and falling over.

 BTW, skirt include kilts.


 On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 9:50 AM, cyclotourist 
 cyclot...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 Step through the frame to mount, rather than swinging a leg up around the 
 back. Much more civilized.

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Patrick Moore 
 bert...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 Serious question: What's the point of a mixte if you don't wear skirts? 
 To put it another way: why are they so popular?

 Patrick Moore, who has owned at least two with the extra stays and dual 
 down tubes.


 On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Pam Ellen Hudson 
 pammi...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 I will say, as the owner of a double tube mixte custom from Royal H 
 (the lovelybike frame that was stolen but I got back!).  The bike is 
 unusually flexible at high speeds going downhill.  There is quite a bit of 
 flex in the frame generally.  I will test it out with lowered panniers in 
 the next month and let me know of the results.  My frame is simply 
 pristine 
 -- but I had always been a roadie -- so for me the difference was 
 significant.  I think that makes the mixte frame not the best choice for 
 rando events or touring -- it does make a good commuter and is good for 
 long rides though. 

 My thoughts.  

 On Jan 9, 2014, at 6:44 AM, Matthew J matth...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

  I meant to say that I prefer the looks of the double lateral tube 
 style of step through bike than the single diagatube style.  :)

  SOMA Buena Vista is a nice double lateral tube design.  
 http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8348/8261188891_959b6b76ea_o.jpg 

 The double tubes look nice and from the right builder can be a decent 
 bike.  A lot of those double tubes are very flexible though and not in the 
 planing sort of way.  Riv (and others) single tube down tends to make a 
 stronger bike.

 On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 7:04:20 PM UTC-6, Tim Gavin wrote:

 I didn't mean to start a pedantic discussion around the term mixte: 
 (but thanks for the background info, Jan and co.)  Though I used it with 
 what seems to be a widely held distinction (at least in US).

 I meant to say that I prefer the looks of the double lateral tube 
 style of step through bike than the single diagatube style.  :)

 SOMA Buena Vista is a nice double lateral tube design.  
 http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8348/8261188891_959b6b76ea_o.jpg


 On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Jan Heine hei...@earthlink.netwrote:

 Interestingly, mixte seems to have a clear definition more in the 
 U.S. than in France. Of the great constructeurs, I've only seen the term 
 mixte used in the Goéland catalogue. Most speak of vélo dame or 
 similar 
 terms.

 Regarding the frame design, the twin-diagonal-tubed mixte was 
 invented by A. Sixt in the 1930s, as a more triangulated design that was 
 intended to make the frame stiffer than the traditional women's frames 
 with 
 a deeply dropped or even curved diagonal tube. He also used twin 
 diagonal 
 tubes to stiffen tandem frames.

 Around 1938, the great constructeur Reyhand developed a more 
 sophisticated frame design, with a dropped single top tube and two extra 
 seatstays. In profile, it looks similar to the twin-diagonal-tubed 
 frame. 
 To stiffen the connection at the center of the frame, the extra stays 
 extend beyond the seat tube and attach to the diagonal tube as well. 
 André 
 Reiss, the maker of Reynand, patented this design, as well as a tandem 
 frame with two sets of diagonal reinforcement stays (one set from the 
 head 
 tube to the rear BB, the other from the front seat lug to the rear 
 dropouts). After Reiss died in World War II, the designs were widely 
 copied.

 You can see examples of these designs in the Bicycle Quarterly Image 
 Archive at

 http://www.bikequarterly.com/color_photo_supplement.html

 The twin-diagonal-tubed mixte was much easier to make, and thus 
 remained popular among mass producers. I don't think Sheldon Brown was 
 even 
 aware of the second Reyhand type when he coined his definition of 
 mixte, 
 but he was thinking of women's frames with either a dropped top tube 
 with 
 no extra rear stays (which puts bending loads on the seat tube and thus 
 offends engineers) or the twin-diagonal-tubed mixte. More recently, 
 Rivendell inspired its mixtes on the Reyhand type, but without

Re: [RBW] Re: Mixte frame design question

Skirt in the general and not the particular sense, as in the skirts of
a long coat.

Patrick mouth currently foot free, cheek not tongue free Moore


On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:

 Live on the floor for 21 days and you'll be lifting your foot however high
 you'd like. I often just go over the top bar with my foot rather than swing
 round back (especially loaded for touring). Who knows? It might even help
 you get back the foot you left in your mouth believing skirt includes
 kilts. Grin.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Friday, January 10, 2014 9:52:34 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I guess it would be useful if you are sufficiently flexible. I could
 never lift my knee high enough to get it comfortably over the diagonal
 tubes without danger of catching my toes and falling over.

 BTW, skirt include kilts.


 On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 9:50 AM, cyclotourist cyclot...@gmail.comwrote:

 Step through the frame to mount, rather than swinging a leg up around
 the back. Much more civilized.

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Patrick Moore bert...@gmail.comwrote:

 Serious question: What's the point of a mixte if you don't wear skirts?
 To put it another way: why are they so popular?

 Patrick Moore, who has owned at least two with the extra stays and dual
 down tubes.


 On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Pam Ellen Hudson pammi...@gmail.comwrote:

 I will say, as the owner of a double tube mixte custom from Royal H
 (the lovelybike frame that was stolen but I got back!).  The bike is
 unusually flexible at high speeds going downhill.  There is quite a bit of
 flex in the frame generally.  I will test it out with lowered panniers in
 the next month and let me know of the results.  My frame is simply 
 pristine
 -- but I had always been a roadie -- so for me the difference was
 significant.  I think that makes the mixte frame not the best choice for
 rando events or touring -- it does make a good commuter and is good for
 long rides though.

 My thoughts.

 On Jan 9, 2014, at 6:44 AM, Matthew J matth...@gmail.com wrote:

  I meant to say that I prefer the looks of the double lateral tube
 style of step through bike than the single diagatube style.  :)

  SOMA Buena Vista is a nice double lateral tube design.
 http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8348/8261188891_959b6b76ea_o.jpg

 The double tubes look nice and from the right builder can be a decent
 bike.  A lot of those double tubes are very flexible though and not in the
 planing sort of way.  Riv (and others) single tube down tends to make a
 stronger bike.

 On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 7:04:20 PM UTC-6, Tim Gavin wrote:

 I didn't mean to start a pedantic discussion around the term mixte:
 (but thanks for the background info, Jan and co.)  Though I used it with
 what seems to be a widely held distinction (at least in US).

 I meant to say that I prefer the looks of the double lateral tube
 style of step through bike than the single diagatube style.  :)

 SOMA Buena Vista is a nice double lateral tube design.
 http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8348/8261188891_959b6b76ea_o.jpg


 On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Jan Heine hei...@earthlink.netwrote:

 Interestingly, mixte seems to have a clear definition more in the
 U.S. than in France. Of the great constructeurs, I've only seen the term
 mixte used in the Goéland catalogue. Most speak of vélo dame or 
 similar
 terms.

 Regarding the frame design, the twin-diagonal-tubed mixte was
 invented by A. Sixt in the 1930s, as a more triangulated design that was
 intended to make the frame stiffer than the traditional women's frames 
 with
 a deeply dropped or even curved diagonal tube. He also used twin 
 diagonal
 tubes to stiffen tandem frames.

 Around 1938, the great constructeur Reyhand developed a more
 sophisticated frame design, with a dropped single top tube and two extra
 seatstays. In profile, it looks similar to the twin-diagonal-tubed 
 frame.
 To stiffen the connection at the center of the frame, the extra stays
 extend beyond the seat tube and attach to the diagonal tube as well. 
 André
 Reiss, the maker of Reynand, patented this design, as well as a tandem
 frame with two sets of diagonal reinforcement stays (one set from the 
 head
 tube to the rear BB, the other from the front seat lug to the rear
 dropouts). After Reiss died in World War II, the designs were widely 
 copied.

 You can see examples of these designs in the Bicycle Quarterly
 Image Archive at

 http://www.bikequarterly.com/color_photo_supplement.html

 The twin-diagonal-tubed mixte was much easier to make, and thus
 remained popular among mass producers. I don't think Sheldon Brown was 
 even
 aware of the second Reyhand type when he coined his definition of 
 mixte,
 but he was thinking of women's frames with either a dropped top tube 
 with
 no extra rear stays (which puts bending loads on the seat tube and thus
 offends

Re: [RBW] Re: The Utility of Mulitple Wheelset's

2014-01-10 Thread Ron Mc

start with 8 dropouts, and you may end up with the only Radio Flyer with 
4-wheel independent suspension

On Friday, January 10, 2014 10:57:17 AM UTC-6, Pudge wrote:

  I have at least 4 front hubs for the same reason.  Maybe I could make a 
 wagon with 20 inch wheels?  But how to work out the axle attachment?

  =


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Re: [RBW] Re: The Utility of Mulitple Wheelset's

Tom

Remember how Burley trailers used to have that full roll cage thing?  For a 
while their two-seater D'Lite model had spoked wheels on regular front hubs 
that would QR to aluminum dropout things that were attached to that roll 
cage thing.  

imagine one large rectangle of metal.  This thing wraps around the outside 
of your vehicle.  The outside dropout for each of the four wheels attaches 
to that.  Two rails cross front to back.  The inner dropout for each of the 
four wheels attaches to those rails.  Now your wagon platform is bordered 
by the original rectangle front to back and the rails side to side.  

On Friday, January 10, 2014 8:57:17 AM UTC-8, Pudge wrote:

  I have at least 4 front hubs for the same reason.  Maybe I could make a 
 wagon with 20 inch wheels?  But how to work out the axle attachment?

  

 *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto:
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *Montclair 
 BobbyB
 *Sent:* Thursday, January 09, 2014 9:57 AM
 *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:
 *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: The Utility of Mulitple Wheelset's

  
  
 Yeah, I seem to end up with a surplus of front hubs from swap-outs (to 
 replace with a dynamo)... One day I'm going to assemble some kind of 
 Franken-creation utilizing these unwanted front hubs...
  
  
  
 I also have old Uniglide cassette bodies that I wonder if they will every 
 have some use in the future...  NAH

 On Tuesday, January 7, 2014 6:28:14 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
  
 True.  Especially considering that perfectly good normal front hubs are 
 practically free on the second hand market.  

 On Tuesday, January 7, 2014 2:55:16 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:

 On 01/07/2014 05:51 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: 
  It gets a lot more costly to run multiple wheelsets when dynamo hubs 
  come into play.  When there's a $300 hub in the equation, it's more 
  motivation to just do the tire swap when you need to.  Maybe that 
  motivates some to make sure that the dynamo wheel can interchangeably 
  run on different bikes, but that's different from running multiple 
  wheels on one bike 

 One popular use for multiple wheels would be to not use the generator 
 hub on a given bike when no nighttime operation was contemplated, but 
 rather to swap in a plain old wheel.  This would reduce mileage on the 
 generator hub, sparing the more expensive (and not user serviceable) 
 wheel. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: DIY Lug Lining

2014-01-10 Thread Tony DeFilippo

Bill that bike is looking great! Keep sharing!

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[RBW] Re: Speaking of Off-Pavent Rides... Come to Redlands this Spring!

2014-01-10 Thread jinxed



 So...hypothetically speakingif one were to fly out from Denver 
 CO...what would be the closest airport? Santa Ana? 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Speaking of Off-Pavent Rides... Come to Redlands this Spring!

A hypothetical plane would be best to land at Ontario or Palm Springs.

Glad it's being hypothetically considered!!!

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Re: [RBW] Re: DIY Lug Lining

Thanks Tony.  I'm going bonkers waiting for the mailcarrier to bring a box. 
 That has headset bearings and a NOS chain.  Once I have those parts, I can 
really put a lot together and the thing will really start looking like a 
bike.  The tracking thing said it would arrive on the 8th.  Where's that 
drone delivery when I need it!?!?!?  Kidding.  

Riv Content.  Rivendell ships me my orders with blazing speed and 
reliability that surpasses USPS.  Maybe I get less anticipation with my Riv 
orders?

On Friday, January 10, 2014 9:46:18 AM UTC-8, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

 Bill that bike is looking great! Keep sharing!


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Re: [RBW] Re: Speaking of Off-Pavent Rides... Come to Redlands this Spring!

2014-01-10 Thread Hugh Smitham

Cool I'm the third registrant. Planning on coming out and doing a portion
of the ride soon maybe February?

~Hugh

Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving. -- Albert Einstein

http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/

On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 8:33 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

http://www.iebikingalliance.org/content.aspx?page_id=87club_id=961736item_id=321339

Again, the main info page is http://redlands-strada-rossa.blogspot.com

And most up to date map is:
http://www.mapmyride.com/us/redlands-ca/redlands-strada-rossa-100k-route-296421965

Cheers,
David

it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal

On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 6:14 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

Over the years, the SoCal chapter of the Rivendell Bicycle
Appreciation Society has put on a lot of great rides!

I also love the idea of the organized rides/brevets/populairs that are
happening like the D2R2 in Vermont, and La Ruta Loca in the Bay Area.

So I think to myself: Why not combine the two? Which gives us this:
http://redlands-strada-rossa.blogspot.com/

The vibe aimed for his an extended Riv-Ride. There are no timing
devices, no podium spots, no t-shirts, just the knowledge that it'll
be good people on a good route.

Oh, and two independent breweries in town as well. Just thought I'd
mention that!

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[RBW] Re: Speaking of Off-Pavent Rides... Come to Redlands this Spring!

2014-01-10 Thread Mike Schiller

signed up!   now I just gotta buy that fatbike for the challenging dirt 
sections. 

~mike
Carlsbad Ca.

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RE: [RBW] 13 shots for 13...2013 that is...and maybe a few more...

My 13 (+ 1, as I couldn't leave out a couple of family brag pics).  A great 
year!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/sets/72157639619480186/

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Subject: [RBW] 13 shots for 13...2013 that is...and maybe a few more...

its hard to  pick just a few photos from so many great rides however I pared it 
down to 13, well make that just a few more than 13..anyone else with a similar 
compilation should post away...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/julianmeade/sets/72157638895721164/

meade...who has taken up running in these single digit times...

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Re: [RBW] Re: Speaking of Off-Pavent Rides... Come to Redlands this Spring!

Filling up fast!

A preview day could be a lot of fun, plus I wouldn't mind getting outside
opinions on sections, either. Especially want to get the fat-bike mileage
upped!

Cheers,
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 signed up!   now I just gotta buy that fatbike for the challenging dirt
 sections.

 ~mike
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RE: [RBW] Re: The Utility of Mulitple Wheelset's

Perfect.  I might launch this as the next project!

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[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Lindsay
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 12:42 PM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: The Utility of Mulitple Wheelset's

Tom

Remember how Burley trailers used to have that full roll cage thing?  For a 
while their two-seater D'Lite model had spoked wheels on regular front hubs 
that would QR to aluminum dropout things that were attached to that roll cage 
thing.

imagine one large rectangle of metal.  This thing wraps around the outside of 
your vehicle.  The outside dropout for each of the four wheels attaches to 
that.  Two rails cross front to back.  The inner dropout for each of the four 
wheels attaches to those rails.  Now your wagon platform is bordered by the 
original rectangle front to back and the rails side to side.

On Friday, January 10, 2014 8:57:17 AM UTC-8, Pudge wrote:
I have at least 4 front hubs for the same reason.  Maybe I could make a wagon 
with 20 inch wheels?  But how to work out the axle attachment?

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[mailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:] On Behalf Of Montclair BobbyB
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To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: The Utility of Mulitple Wheelset's

Yeah, I seem to end up with a surplus of front hubs from swap-outs (to replace 
with a dynamo)... One day I'm going to assemble some kind of Franken-creation 
utilizing these unwanted front hubs...

I also have old Uniglide cassette bodies that I wonder if they will every have 
some use in the future...  NAH

On Tuesday, January 7, 2014 6:28:14 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
True.  Especially considering that perfectly good normal front hubs are 
practically free on the second hand market.

On Tuesday, January 7, 2014 2:55:16 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:
On 01/07/2014 05:51 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:
 It gets a lot more costly to run multiple wheelsets when dynamo hubs
 come into play.  When there's a $300 hub in the equation, it's more
 motivation to just do the tire swap when you need to.  Maybe that
 motivates some to make sure that the dynamo wheel can interchangeably
 run on different bikes, but that's different from running multiple
 wheels on one bike

One popular use for multiple wheels would be to not use the generator
hub on a given bike when no nighttime operation was contemplated, but
rather to swap in a plain old wheel.  This would reduce mileage on the
generator hub, sparing the more expensive (and not user serviceable) wheel.
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Brooks B17S saddle

No, S for the ladies.

Cheers,
David

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On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Ryan ryter...@mts.net wrote:

 I assume you want a man's saddle?
 On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 11:00:23 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.comwrote:

  Anyone have an unused B17S lying around? This is an experiment so
 doesn't have to be unused or beautiful, in fact I would prefer rough
 condition and inexpensive. Black possibly preferred, but any color is fine.

 Cheers,
 David

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Brooks B17S saddle

2014-01-10 Thread Ryan

I assume you want a man's saddle? 
On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 11:00:23 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

  Anyone have an unused B17S lying around? This is an experiment so 
 doesn't have to be unused or beautiful, in fact I would prefer rough 
 condition and inexpensive. Black possibly preferred, but any color is fine.

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 David

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Re: [RBW] Re: Speaking of Off-Pavent Rides... Come to Redlands this Spring!

2014-01-10 Thread Hugh Smitham

Let's set a date soon, cause the calendar is filling up quick.

~Hugh

Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving. -- Albert Einstein

http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 10:20 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 Filling up fast!

 A preview day could be a lot of fun, plus I wouldn't mind getting outside
 opinions on sections, either. Especially want to get the fat-bike mileage
 upped!

 Cheers,
 David

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 sections.

 ~mike
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Brooks B17S saddle

2014-01-10 Thread Ryan

Really? Because I have a ladies I bought in 2011 or so that I had on my 
X0-1. I very much doubt it has more than 100 miles. I didn't really like 
the shape...even though I'm a woman ,I like the men's version betterand 
I prefer the Champion specials. It's black and in decent shape. How does 
$35 cdn + my shipping cost sound? I live in Winnipeg, Manitoba
On Friday, January 10, 2014 12:34:55 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: 

 No, S for the ladies.

 Cheers,
 David

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 On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Ryan ryte...@mts.net javascript:wrote:

  I assume you want a man's saddle? 
  On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 11:00:23 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.comwrote:

  Anyone have an unused B17S lying around? This is an experiment so 
 doesn't have to be unused or beautiful, in fact I would prefer rough 
 condition and inexpensive. Black possibly preferred, but any color is fine.

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal



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Re: [RBW] Re: Taller 26 Riders

2014-01-10 Thread Tonester

I believe it had to do with being able to cram a 29' wheel into the 
geometry of a smaller bike.

On Tuesday, January 7, 2014 9:49:29 AM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:

 On 01/06/2014 01:52 PM, Tonester wrote: 
  I've been in process of trying to determine a single off-road 
  compliment to my Atlantis and have decided that 26ers are fine for 
  road and light off road but just don't roll like a 29er.  I've not 
  ridden a 650b yet but I'm told that at our height (6'3 with 91PBH) 
  the benefit of 650b mountain is mostly lost. 

 How does that make any kind of sense at all?   If there's a benefit to 
 any specific wheel size for MTB it would have to do with the 
 characteristics of that wheel, not the height of the rider. 




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[RBW] Mixte frame design question

2014-01-10 Thread Tom Matchak

Yet another way to deal with the alignment of the dropped top tube and the 
mid-stays. Reynand style mid-stay attachment, no kink, just to swoop.

http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/34156114@N05/11348445043/

That's a 60cm frame over 650B wheels. As others have pointed out, that's a 
pretty high hurdle to step over. Still better, however, than a big leg swing 
with a stiff hip.

Cheers,
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[RBW] ISO: shock elastomer. Plus, ride report and bike ramblings

2014-01-10 Thread Tim Gavin

*ISO*:

I'm looking for an elastomer from a MTB shock, seatpost, or similar.  It
can be used and cruddy, I don't care.  I'll pay shipping (to 52404) plus a
nominal fee.

I have a Wald 3133 QR front basket.  It's pretty great, actually, and was
quite cheap ($23).  It comes off its rack very easily, yet holds securely
when it's attached.

However, it vibrates a lot once loaded, especially since the load is
carried pretty high on the bike.  A six-pack of Peace Tree Black River
Gumbo Stout (http://www.peacetreebrewing.com/our-beer/) made the basket
bounce a lot on the ride home.  The basket rack clamps pretty securely on
the handlebars, but it has a rear rest that just leans against the stem, as
shown in the following pic:

I need a shock absorbing bushing to go between the basket mount and the
handlebar.  I can use a cork or rubber stopper, but figured I'd start with
something actually designed to absorb shock.  I also figured I can tear
apart one of the many old MTB suspension forks at my bike co-op, but I'd
prefer to start with one that someone already has lying around.  I'll
probably just sandwich the elastomer between the rack and stem, and then
lash it all together with twine.

*Ride report*:

I fitted studded tires (Nokian Mount  Ground, 26 x 1.9) to my Schwinn
KOM-10 and took it out for a ride yesterday in the frozen wasteland.  They
fit easily under the SKS P65 fenders (which were fit around 2.1 tires)

Pretty good ride, actually.  My head was cold (single layer balaclava under
the helmet was not warm enough in 20 degree air), but the rest of me was
fine.  The studded tires felt slower and heavier than the fatty tires I had
on before, but this is a townie bike, not a speedster, so I don't really
care.  The sound of the studs on the pavement is kinda nice, a hum at low
speeds and a ip! on downhills.  I'm gonna try commuting on mornings the
temp is 20 F and up, with a stocking cap in addition the balaclava.  Or
maybe I'll get a helmet cover to break the breeze.

*Bike report*:

This bike, a 1988 Schwinn Project KOM-10, is a fantastic bike.  Based on
the previous year Paramountain, the KOM-10 was their MTB team racer that
year, handmade by Richard Schwinn's shop in the plant in Greenville, MS.
 Good geometry, (not a klunker), full lugged Tange Prestige frame, full XT
group.  I'm fond of the loud Merica! paint job.  The rear U-brakes aren't
great, but with Kool-stop mountain pads, they have about equivalent power
to sidepull brakes.



It's not too different than the Riv mounties (AR/Atlantis/Hunq/Bomba), and
only cost me $70!  I added fenders and cruiser handlebars (MUSA Wald) and
it's a great all-around townie bike.

Its KOM (King of the Mountain) model name, its paint job, and its MUSA
origin have given me the bike's current name: The King of 'Merica, or
The King for short.

Tim Gavin
Cedar Rapids, IA

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Re: [RBW] Tire Width and Performance

Clearly the ironclad scientific conclusion is that that all of you have the 
slowest possible wheels.  If you increase the weight of your wheels, you 
will climb faster because the extra momentum will push you along.  If you 
decrease the weight of your wheels, you will climb faster because lighter 
wheels spin up faster.  You (all of you all and me) climb slowly because 
your wheels have you in a local minimum.  Do something about that!  

We should get into marketing, maybe for Specialized.  

;-)



On Friday, January 10, 2014 6:11:32 AM UTC-8, stevef wrote:

 I notice that effect a lot on the fat bike.  LOTS of wheel weight there!  
 When you hit a climb with momentum on your side, you can feel that rotating 
 mass throwing you up the hill.  It feels similar to the way a fixed gear 
 seems to push you along as you pedal it...

 Steve


 On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Steve Palincsar pali...@his.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 On 01/03/2014 01:02 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:


 The difference between A and B will be the extra work the rider had to 
 do to spin up the extra 200g of rolling weight.  I'm saying that 
 difference will be small.  The heavier wheel is harder to spin up, but the 
 magnitude of the difference is small.  If the total power output of the 
 rider is ~100 Watts, then the difference between the two will be 1 or 2 
 Watts.  Less than the difference we suffer by running a dynamo.

  
 And the additional weight will act as a flywheel, and help keep the 
 rotation more nearly constant.


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Re: [RBW] Tire Width and Performance

If I increase the weight in my head with more rocks will I comprehend this 
conversation any faster? It's spinning, so pretty sure the same forces are 
involved. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, January 10, 2014 2:14:00 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 Clearly the ironclad scientific conclusion is that that all of you have 
 the slowest possible wheels.  If you increase the weight of your wheels, 
 you will climb faster because the extra momentum will push you along.  If 
 you decrease the weight of your wheels, you will climb faster because 
 lighter wheels spin up faster.  You (all of you all and me) climb slowly 
 because your wheels have you in a local minimum.  Do something about that!  

 We should get into marketing, maybe for Specialized.  

 ;-)



 On Friday, January 10, 2014 6:11:32 AM UTC-8, stevef wrote:

 I notice that effect a lot on the fat bike.  LOTS of wheel weight there!  
 When you hit a climb with momentum on your side, you can feel that rotating 
 mass throwing you up the hill.  It feels similar to the way a fixed gear 
 seems to push you along as you pedal it...

 Steve


 On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Steve Palincsar pali...@his.com wrote:

 On 01/03/2014 01:02 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:


 The difference between A and B will be the extra work the rider had to 
 do to spin up the extra 200g of rolling weight.  I'm saying that 
 difference will be small.  The heavier wheel is harder to spin up, but the 
 magnitude of the difference is small.  If the total power output of the 
 rider is ~100 Watts, then the difference between the two will be 1 or 2 
 Watts.  Less than the difference we suffer by running a dynamo.

  
 And the additional weight will act as a flywheel, and help keep the 
 rotation more nearly constant.


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[RBW] Re: Training ride today on Bleriot.

2014-01-10 Thread Howard H

Hey Michael, I was thinking of doing that training ride as well. You still 
have a couple of weeks to recoverhope you're feeling better soon!

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[RBW] Re: new to me Al Franken Bike

2014-01-10 Thread eflayer

Just for reference sake, it is a size 60 C'dale and I am 5'11. Think 
saddle is at 75 cm.
On Friday, January 10, 2014 1:52:46 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote:

 Nailed height and reach with only one used 130 Technomic. Thanks to a 
 fellow forum mate. Gotta go ride it.
  
 This C'dale had been converted to drop bars, road gears, and bar ends, but 
 was not much fun to ride.
  
 If nothing else, this looks like more fun.


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[RBW] Riv e-bike conversion?

I know the very idea is anathema, but has anyone had any experience with 
converting a Rivendell bike of any model to an e-bike?

Thanks,
Cecily

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Re: [RBW] Re: Mixte frame design question

I wore skirts a lot more when I could still wear hgeels, so I got a mixte 
because I thought they'd be easier to mount than a diamond frame. But the 
last two mixtes I've owned (a cheap Norco and the Betty Foy) have proved me 
wrong. I could've just gotten a Sam Hillborne, but then I wouldn't have 
pretty red hearts all over my frame. :-)



On Friday, January 10, 2014 8:48:54 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Serious question: What's the point of a mixte if you don't wear skirts? To 
 put it another way: why are they so popular?

 Patrick Moore, who has owned at least two with the extra stays and dual 
 down tubes.


 On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Pam Ellen Hudson 
 pammi...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 I will say, as the owner of a double tube mixte custom from Royal H (the 
 lovelybike frame that was stolen but I got back!).  The bike is unusually 
 flexible at high speeds going downhill.  There is quite a bit of flex in 
 the frame generally.  I will test it out with lowered panniers in the next 
 month and let me know of the results.  My frame is simply pristine -- but I 
 had always been a roadie -- so for me the difference was significant.  I 
 think that makes the mixte frame not the best choice for rando events or 
 touring -- it does make a good commuter and is good for long rides though. 

 My thoughts.  

 On Jan 9, 2014, at 6:44 AM, Matthew J matth...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

  I meant to say that I prefer the looks of the double lateral tube 
 style of step through bike than the single diagatube style.  :)

  SOMA Buena Vista is a nice double lateral tube design.  
 http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8348/8261188891_959b6b76ea_o.jpg 

 The double tubes look nice and from the right builder can be a decent 
 bike.  A lot of those double tubes are very flexible though and not in the 
 planing sort of way.  Riv (and others) single tube down tends to make a 
 stronger bike.

 On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 7:04:20 PM UTC-6, Tim Gavin wrote:

 I didn't mean to start a pedantic discussion around the term mixte: 
 (but thanks for the background info, Jan and co.)  Though I used it with 
 what seems to be a widely held distinction (at least in US).

 I meant to say that I prefer the looks of the double lateral tube 
 style of step through bike than the single diagatube style.  :)

 SOMA Buena Vista is a nice double lateral tube design.  
 http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8348/8261188891_959b6b76ea_o.jpg


 On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Jan Heine hei...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Interestingly, mixte seems to have a clear definition more in the 
 U.S. than in France. Of the great constructeurs, I've only seen the term 
 mixte used in the Goéland catalogue. Most speak of vélo dame or 
 similar 
 terms.

 Regarding the frame design, the twin-diagonal-tubed mixte was invented 
 by A. Sixt in the 1930s, as a more triangulated design that was intended 
 to 
 make the frame stiffer than the traditional women's frames with a deeply 
 dropped or even curved diagonal tube. He also used twin diagonal tubes to 
 stiffen tandem frames.

 Around 1938, the great constructeur Reyhand developed a more 
 sophisticated frame design, with a dropped single top tube and two extra 
 seatstays. In profile, it looks similar to the twin-diagonal-tubed frame. 
 To stiffen the connection at the center of the frame, the extra stays 
 extend beyond the seat tube and attach to the diagonal tube as well. André 
 Reiss, the maker of Reynand, patented this design, as well as a tandem 
 frame with two sets of diagonal reinforcement stays (one set from the head 
 tube to the rear BB, the other from the front seat lug to the rear 
 dropouts). After Reiss died in World War II, the designs were widely 
 copied.

 You can see examples of these designs in the Bicycle Quarterly Image 
 Archive at

 http://www.bikequarterly.com/color_photo_supplement.html

 The twin-diagonal-tubed mixte was much easier to make, and thus 
 remained popular among mass producers. I don't think Sheldon Brown was 
 even 
 aware of the second Reyhand type when he coined his definition of mixte, 
 but he was thinking of women's frames with either a dropped top tube with 
 no extra rear stays (which puts bending loads on the seat tube and thus 
 offends engineers) or the twin-diagonal-tubed mixte. More recently, 
 Rivendell inspired its mixtes on the Reyhand type, but without extending 
 the extra stays beyond the seat tube.

 Jan Heine
 Editor
 Bicycle Quarterly
 www.bikequarterly.com

 Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/

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[RBW] Re: Riv e-bike conversion?

I don't consider it anathema, even in the colloquial sense. If that's part 
of what help you enjoy your Rivendell, more power to you! Grin. I looked 
into this for my recumbent trike early on in my disability, so this may be 
older info and thus things may have evolved since then, but had I pulled 
the trigger it would have been on 
Bion-x. http://www.bionxinternational.com/.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, January 10, 2014 3:01:36 PM UTC-7, Cecily Walker wrote:

 I know the very idea is anathema, but has anyone had any experience with 
 converting a Rivendell bike of any model to an e-bike?

 Thanks,
 Cecily


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[RBW] Re: Riv e-bike conversion?

Thanks, Patrick. :)

I still don't have a surgery date, and the idea of not riding my bike has 
me pretty down in the dumps. If converting the bike into an e-bike - even 
for a short period - means I can ride again, I have to at least consider it.

On Friday, January 10, 2014 2:28:04 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 I don't consider it anathema, even in the colloquial sense. If that's part 
 of what help you enjoy your Rivendell, more power to you! Grin. I looked 
 into this for my recumbent trike early on in my disability, so this may be 
 older info and thus things may have evolved since then, but had I pulled 
 the trigger it would have been on Bion-x. 
 http://www.bionxinternational.com/.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Friday, January 10, 2014 3:01:36 PM UTC-7, Cecily Walker wrote:

 I know the very idea is anathema, but has anyone had any experience with 
 converting a Rivendell bike of any model to an e-bike?

 Thanks,
 Cecily



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Re: [RBW] Re: DIY Lug Lining

Box in hand!!  Vintage NOS 5-speed chain and Campy vintage replacement 
headset bearings.  Now we can do work!

On Friday, January 10, 2014 9:56:20 AM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 Thanks Tony.  I'm going bonkers waiting for the mailcarrier to bring a 
 box.  That has headset bearings and a NOS chain.  Once I have those parts, 
 I can really put a lot together and the thing will really start looking 
 like a bike.  The tracking thing said it would arrive on the 8th.  Where's 
 that drone delivery when I need it!?!?!?  Kidding.  

 Riv Content.  Rivendell ships me my orders with blazing speed and 
 reliability that surpasses USPS.  Maybe I get less anticipation with my Riv 
 orders?

 On Friday, January 10, 2014 9:46:18 AM UTC-8, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

 Bill that bike is looking great! Keep sharing!



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[RBW] Re: Training ride today on Bleriot.

2014-01-10 Thread Jim M.

The best way to recover is to keep riding.

happy trails

On Friday, January 10, 2014 1:50:04 PM UTC-8, Howard H wrote:

 Hey Michael, I was thinking of doing that training ride as well. You still 
 have a couple of weeks to recoverhope you're feeling better soon!


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[RBW] Re: Training ride today on Bleriot.

If by keep riding you mean enjoy the ride, then absolutely. If that 
means time to recover before the next one, then great.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, January 10, 2014 4:53:40 PM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote:

 The best way to recover is to keep riding.

 happy trails

 On Friday, January 10, 2014 1:50:04 PM UTC-8, Howard H wrote:

 Hey Michael, I was thinking of doing that training ride as well. You 
 still have a couple of weeks to recoverhope you're feeling better soon!



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Re: [RBW] Riv e-bike conversion?

2014-01-10 Thread Ray Shine

I have very seriously considered it -- several times. I am an old guy (65+) but 
in relatively good health. I don't need an ebike, but there are plenty of times 
where I would welcome the ability to use power assist on my pedaling.  If I 
only cycled for health reasons, then I would see no point in a conversion. But 
I cycle mainly for transportation purposes, and because there is very little 
free/cheap parking in San Francisco.  I carry cargo on my bike, and I have 
several hills in between my home and my office. I can and do make the commute 
each day without an ebike, but I would have no qualms at all using an ebike on 
the commute.  Price has been a factor, as well. But, the technology is evolving 
very rapidly, and there are very reasonable ebikes on the market. I would be 
more inclined to go for a factory build now rather than a conversion. I see 
often some very impressive factory ebikes on the streets of SF.




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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 2:01 PM
Subject: [RBW] Riv e-bike conversion?
 


I know the very idea is anathema, but has anyone had any experience with 
converting a Rivendell bike of any model to an e-bike?


Thanks,
Cecily
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[RBW] Re: 13 shots for 13...2013 that is...and maybe a few more...

2014-01-10 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt

Another baker's dozen… 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/sets/72157639630139996/

--Smitty


On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 6:00:55 PM UTC-8, Meade Anderson wrote:

 its hard to  pick just a few photos from so many great rides however I 
 pared it down to 13, well make that just a few more than 13..anyone else 
 with a similar compilation should post away...

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/julianmeade/sets/72157638895721164/

 meade...who has taken up running in these single digit times...




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[RBW] Re: Training ride today on Bleriot.

2014-01-10 Thread Tom M

It looks like it's on their calendar 
(http://www.dcrand.org/dcr/calendar.php); some members are already 
registered for the ride. You might have to go back to your SH and drop 
bars, if the upright ones are giving you that much trouble.
--Tom

On Friday, January 10, 2014 11:18:43 AM UTC-5, Michael wrote:

 Hi Tony,

 It is the DC Randonneurs' 65 mile training ride in Glen Echo, MD on 1/25. 
 I am not sure what they are officially calling it. It was supposed to be 
 listed on their site so folks could register but I don't see anything yet.

 I hope I can go. But those tendons where the thighs meet the abdomen 
 (iliacs?) are killing me!
 During the ride, they started hurting, but I figured they would work 
 themselves out. But they didn't.
 That has never happened to me before. I hope I am ok.
 For now, walking and going up steps is tough. Any leg lifting movement 
 hurts.
 I hope I can ride again soon.
 I don't know why my legs are acting this way. Maybe my body is not used to 
 being on the upright bike. Been riding the drop bar Sam 99.9% of the time 
 since August.




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[RBW] Vending machine for cyclists

We had a thread the other day where the point was made that 650B is risky 
to tour with because most shops don't have 650B tires and tubes.  

Even if a shop has what you need, you aren't always near the shop when it's 
open, especially if you are a long distance rider on tour or a brevet. 
 Well, check this out.  Mikes Bikes in Sausalito, which SF Randonneur 
riders frequently pass when it's closed, has a vending machine!  Bars, 
gels, of course but also tubes, cables, brake pads, patches.  That is so 
killer, I'm having a hard time finding the words for it.  24/7 access.  If 
only there were a few hundred thousand more of them scattered about.  Haha!

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-IviogSFa75s/Us7Wh0Qjd8I/MXI/diAKxErTbAY/w506-h675/20140104_085624_Olima%2BSt.jpg

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Re: [RBW] Re: Mixte frame design question

Aha, the hearts! I would confidently choose a frame on that basis!

I think mixtes are cool; I may well buy one for my daughter (if she also
thinks they are cool.)


On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Cecily Walker cecily.wal...@gmail.comwrote:

 I wore skirts a lot more when I could still wear hgeels, so I got a mixte
 because I thought they'd be easier to mount than a diamond frame. But the
 last two mixtes I've owned (a cheap Norco and the Betty Foy) have proved me
 wrong. I could've just gotten a Sam Hillborne, but then I wouldn't have
 pretty red hearts all over my frame. :-)



 On Friday, January 10, 2014 8:48:54 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Serious question: What's the point of a mixte if you don't wear skirts?
 To put it another way: why are they so popular?

 Patrick Moore, who has owned at least two with the extra stays and dual
 down tubes.


 On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Pam Ellen Hudson pammi...@gmail.comwrote:

 I will say, as the owner of a double tube mixte custom from Royal H (the
 lovelybike frame that was stolen but I got back!).  The bike is unusually
 flexible at high speeds going downhill.  There is quite a bit of flex in
 the frame generally.  I will test it out with lowered panniers in the next
 month and let me know of the results.  My frame is simply pristine -- but I
 had always been a roadie -- so for me the difference was significant.  I
 think that makes the mixte frame not the best choice for rando events or
 touring -- it does make a good commuter and is good for long rides though.

 My thoughts.

 On Jan 9, 2014, at 6:44 AM, Matthew J matth...@gmail.com wrote:

  I meant to say that I prefer the looks of the double lateral tube
 style of step through bike than the single diagatube style.  :)

  SOMA Buena Vista is a nice double lateral tube design.
 http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8348/8261188891_959b6b76ea_o.jpg

 The double tubes look nice and from the right builder can be a decent
 bike.  A lot of those double tubes are very flexible though and not in the
 planing sort of way.  Riv (and others) single tube down tends to make a
 stronger bike.

 On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 7:04:20 PM UTC-6, Tim Gavin wrote:

 I didn't mean to start a pedantic discussion around the term mixte:
 (but thanks for the background info, Jan and co.)  Though I used it with
 what seems to be a widely held distinction (at least in US).

 I meant to say that I prefer the looks of the double lateral tube
 style of step through bike than the single diagatube style.  :)

 SOMA Buena Vista is a nice double lateral tube design.
 http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8348/8261188891_959b6b76ea_o.jpg


 On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Jan Heine hei...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Interestingly, mixte seems to have a clear definition more in the
 U.S. than in France. Of the great constructeurs, I've only seen the term
 mixte used in the Goéland catalogue. Most speak of vélo dame or 
 similar
 terms.

 Regarding the frame design, the twin-diagonal-tubed mixte was invented
 by A. Sixt in the 1930s, as a more triangulated design that was intended 
 to
 make the frame stiffer than the traditional women's frames with a deeply
 dropped or even curved diagonal tube. He also used twin diagonal tubes to
 stiffen tandem frames.

 Around 1938, the great constructeur Reyhand developed a more
 sophisticated frame design, with a dropped single top tube and two extra
 seatstays. In profile, it looks similar to the twin-diagonal-tubed frame.
 To stiffen the connection at the center of the frame, the extra stays
 extend beyond the seat tube and attach to the diagonal tube as well. André
 Reiss, the maker of Reynand, patented this design, as well as a tandem
 frame with two sets of diagonal reinforcement stays (one set from the head
 tube to the rear BB, the other from the front seat lug to the rear
 dropouts). After Reiss died in World War II, the designs were widely 
 copied.

 You can see examples of these designs in the Bicycle Quarterly Image
 Archive at

 http://www.bikequarterly.com/color_photo_supplement.html

 The twin-diagonal-tubed mixte was much easier to make, and thus
 remained popular among mass producers. I don't think Sheldon Brown was 
 even
 aware of the second Reyhand type when he coined his definition of mixte,
 but he was thinking of women's frames with either a dropped top tube with
 no extra rear stays (which puts bending loads on the seat tube and thus
 offends engineers) or the twin-diagonal-tubed mixte. More recently,
 Rivendell inspired its mixtes on the Reyhand type, but without extending
 the extra stays beyond the seat tube.

 Jan Heine
 Editor
 Bicycle Quarterly
 www.bikequarterly.com

 Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/

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Re: [RBW] Re: Mixte frame design question

I love hearts if anyone wants to buy me a mixte I would ride the hell out
of it.
On Jan 10, 2014 8:53 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Aha, the hearts! I would confidently choose a frame on that basis!

 I think mixtes are cool; I may well buy one for my daughter (if she also
 thinks they are cool.)


 On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Cecily Walker cecily.wal...@gmail.comwrote:

 I wore skirts a lot more when I could still wear hgeels, so I got a mixte
 because I thought they'd be easier to mount than a diamond frame. But the
 last two mixtes I've owned (a cheap Norco and the Betty Foy) have proved me
 wrong. I could've just gotten a Sam Hillborne, but then I wouldn't have
 pretty red hearts all over my frame. :-)



 On Friday, January 10, 2014 8:48:54 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Serious question: What's the point of a mixte if you don't wear skirts?
 To put it another way: why are they so popular?

 Patrick Moore, who has owned at least two with the extra stays and dual
 down tubes.


 On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Pam Ellen Hudson pammi...@gmail.comwrote:

 I will say, as the owner of a double tube mixte custom from Royal H
 (the lovelybike frame that was stolen but I got back!).  The bike is
 unusually flexible at high speeds going downhill.  There is quite a bit of
 flex in the frame generally.  I will test it out with lowered panniers in
 the next month and let me know of the results.  My frame is simply pristine
 -- but I had always been a roadie -- so for me the difference was
 significant.  I think that makes the mixte frame not the best choice for
 rando events or touring -- it does make a good commuter and is good for
 long rides though.

 My thoughts.

 On Jan 9, 2014, at 6:44 AM, Matthew J matth...@gmail.com wrote:

  I meant to say that I prefer the looks of the double lateral tube
 style of step through bike than the single diagatube style.  :)

  SOMA Buena Vista is a nice double lateral tube design.
 http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8348/8261188891_959b6b76ea_o.jpg

 The double tubes look nice and from the right builder can be a decent
 bike.  A lot of those double tubes are very flexible though and not in the
 planing sort of way.  Riv (and others) single tube down tends to make a
 stronger bike.

 On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 7:04:20 PM UTC-6, Tim Gavin wrote:

 I didn't mean to start a pedantic discussion around the term mixte:
 (but thanks for the background info, Jan and co.)  Though I used it with
 what seems to be a widely held distinction (at least in US).

 I meant to say that I prefer the looks of the double lateral tube
 style of step through bike than the single diagatube style.  :)

 SOMA Buena Vista is a nice double lateral tube design.
 http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8348/8261188891_959b6b76ea_o.jpg


 On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Jan Heine hei...@earthlink.netwrote:

 Interestingly, mixte seems to have a clear definition more in the
 U.S. than in France. Of the great constructeurs, I've only seen the term
 mixte used in the Goéland catalogue. Most speak of vélo dame or 
 similar
 terms.

 Regarding the frame design, the twin-diagonal-tubed mixte was
 invented by A. Sixt in the 1930s, as a more triangulated design that was
 intended to make the frame stiffer than the traditional women's frames 
 with
 a deeply dropped or even curved diagonal tube. He also used twin diagonal
 tubes to stiffen tandem frames.

 Around 1938, the great constructeur Reyhand developed a more
 sophisticated frame design, with a dropped single top tube and two extra
 seatstays. In profile, it looks similar to the twin-diagonal-tubed frame.
 To stiffen the connection at the center of the frame, the extra stays
 extend beyond the seat tube and attach to the diagonal tube as well. 
 André
 Reiss, the maker of Reynand, patented this design, as well as a tandem
 frame with two sets of diagonal reinforcement stays (one set from the 
 head
 tube to the rear BB, the other from the front seat lug to the rear
 dropouts). After Reiss died in World War II, the designs were widely 
 copied.

 You can see examples of these designs in the Bicycle Quarterly Image
 Archive at

 http://www.bikequarterly.com/color_photo_supplement.html

 The twin-diagonal-tubed mixte was much easier to make, and thus
 remained popular among mass producers. I don't think Sheldon Brown was 
 even
 aware of the second Reyhand type when he coined his definition of 
 mixte,
 but he was thinking of women's frames with either a dropped top tube with
 no extra rear stays (which puts bending loads on the seat tube and thus
 offends engineers) or the twin-diagonal-tubed mixte. More recently,
 Rivendell inspired its mixtes on the Reyhand type, but without 
 extending
 the extra stays beyond the seat tube.

 Jan Heine
 Editor
 Bicycle Quarterly
 www.bikequarterly.com

 Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/

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Re: [RBW] Vending machine for cyclists

2014-01-10 Thread Steve Palincsar


On 01/10/2014 08:28 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:
We had a thread the other day where the point was made that 650B is 
risky to tour with because most shops don't have 650B tires and tubes.


Even if a shop has what you need, you aren't always near the shop when 
it's open, especially if you are a long distance rider on tour or a 
brevet.  Well, check this out.  Mikes Bikes in Sausalito, which SF 
Randonneur riders frequently pass when it's closed, has a vending 
machine!  Bars, gels, of course but also tubes, cables, brake pads, 
patches.  That is so killer, I'm having a hard time finding the words 
for it.  24/7 access.  If only there were a few hundred thousand more 
of them scattered about.  Haha!





There's a similar vending machine in downtown Crystal City, just outside 
Washington DC.


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Re: [RBW] Vending machine for cyclists

There are a few in Brooklyn too, cool idea, so simple yet so smart.
On Jan 10, 2014 9:03 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:

 On 01/10/2014 08:28 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 We had a thread the other day where the point was made that 650B is risky
 to tour with because most shops don't have 650B tires and tubes.

 Even if a shop has what you need, you aren't always near the shop when
 it's open, especially if you are a long distance rider on tour or a brevet.
  Well, check this out.  Mikes Bikes in Sausalito, which SF Randonneur
 riders frequently pass when it's closed, has a vending machine!  Bars,
 gels, of course but also tubes, cables, brake pads, patches.  That is so
 killer, I'm having a hard time finding the words for it.  24/7 access.  If
 only there were a few hundred thousand more of them scattered about.  Haha!



 There's a similar vending machine in downtown Crystal City, just outside
 Washington DC.

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[RBW] Re: Vending machine for cyclists

2014-01-10 Thread iamkeith

A couple of years ago, we lost our only real bike shop, here in Jackson,
WY. They moved about 45 miles away, over to Idaho where the cost of living
is lower. But they were kind enough to install and start maintaining one
of these. Pretty cool idea, indeed! They even have chains in it.
On Friday, January 10, 2014 6:28:48 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:

We had a thread the other day where the point was made that 650B is risky
to tour with because most shops don't have 650B tires and tubes.

Even if a shop has what you need, you aren't always near the shop when
it's open, especially if you are a long distance rider on tour or a brevet.
Well, check this out. Mikes Bikes in Sausalito, which SF Randonneur
riders frequently pass when it's closed, has a vending machine! Bars,
gels, of course but also tubes, cables, brake pads, patches. That is so
killer, I'm having a hard time finding the words for it. 24/7 access. If
only there were a few hundred thousand more of them scattered about. Haha!

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-IviogSFa75s/Us7Wh0Qjd8I/MXI/diAKxErTbAY/w506-h675/20140104_085624_Olima%2BSt.jpg

[RBW] Re: Regarding Seth Vidal

2014-01-10 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt

Eunice, I only knew Seth through the list here. I think of him often. Thank 
you for the update. And again, so sorry for your loss.

--Andy Schmidt
  

On Tuesday, July 9, 2013 10:24:45 AM UTC-7, Jack wrote:

 Friends,

 I am deeply saddened to share the news with you that my friend and 
 longtime Riv owner and active RBW list participant Seth Vidal was killed by 
 a hit and run driver last night here in Durham, NC.  

 The latest info about the tragedy is here:
 http://www.wral.com/bicyclist-killed-in-durham-hit-and-run/12639104/
 http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/localid=9166340

 Kind regards
 Jack

 ---
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 Durham, NC
  
  

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[RBW] Riv e-bike conversion?

2014-01-10 Thread Peter Pesce

As long as you attach it with twine it's Riv approved! 
Seriously though, I think that this new e-bike wheel retrofit thingy that's 
been on the inter webs the last few weeks seems ideal.
Personally I'd love an ebike if I could afford a Specialized Turbo (and 
Specialized weren't so evil).

Pete in CT

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[RBW] WTB: Panaracers

2014-01-10 Thread Eric Norris

Anybody have a pair of new or lightly used Paselas in 700x32 that you'd like to 
unload? Black or tan sidewalls OK.

--Eric
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Re: [RBW] Riv e-bike conversion?

The nuvinci is the hub is the one I most often see on the ebikes around
here. It's a big unit but they seem to zip around with ease.
On Jan 10, 2014 9:51 PM, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote:

 As long as you attach it with twine it's Riv approved!
 Seriously though, I think that this new e-bike wheel retrofit thingy
 that's been on the inter webs the last few weeks seems ideal.
 Personally I'd love an ebike if I could afford a Specialized Turbo (and
 Specialized weren't so evil).

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell SimpleBeam - New Model - Call for the Seriously InterestedB

2014-01-10 Thread Peter Pesce

I just bought an S3X for my QB commuter based (almost) entirely on Eric's 
recent and past endorsements. If it's good enough for his PBPs it's good enough 
for mine! (Btw., PBP for me stands for Pub-Bar-Pub)
After I get the wheel built and New England thaws out enough for some bike 
commuting I'll report back to the list with another data point. 

Pete in CT

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Re: [RBW] Riv e-bike conversion?

2014-01-10 Thread David Mayne

I have a Bionx powered Bleriot. Severe osteo arthritis in the knee led to
it, the only way I can ride much now in hilly Seattle. I got over any
notion of shame.

David

On Friday, January 10, 2014, Ray Shine wrote:

 I have very seriously considered it -- several times. I am an old guy
 (65+) but in relatively good health. I don't need an ebike, but there are
 plenty of times where I would welcome the ability to use power assist on my
 pedaling.  If I only cycled for health reasons, then I would see no point
 in a conversion. But I cycle mainly for transportation purposes, and
 because there is very little free/cheap parking in San Francisco.  I carry
 cargo on my bike, and I have several hills in between my home and my
 office. I can and do make the commute each day without an ebike, but I
 would have no qualms at all using an ebike on the commute.  Price has been
 a factor, as well. But, the technology is evolving very rapidly, and there
 are very reasonable ebikes on the market. I would be more inclined to go
 for a factory build now rather than a conversion. I see often some very
 impressive factory ebikes on the streets of SF.

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 I know the very idea is anathema, but has anyone had any experience with
 converting a Rivendell bike of any model to an e-bike?

 Thanks,
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell SimpleBeam - New Model - Call for the Seriously InterestedB

2014-01-10 Thread Eric Norris

I think you'll like it a lot. Are you planning to put a freewheel on it, or run 
fixed?

–Eric N
Sent from my iPhone 5S

 On Jan 10, 2014, at 6:59 PM, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just bought an S3X for my QB commuter based (almost) entirely on Eric's 
 recent and past endorsements. If it's good enough for his PBPs it's good 
 enough for mine! (Btw., PBP for me stands for Pub-Bar-Pub)
 After I get the wheel built and New England thaws out enough for some bike 
 commuting I'll report back to the list with another data point. 
 
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Re: [RBW] Riv e-bike conversion?

IMHO, not anathema at all! I know there's that divide in the bicycling
world between assists and not, but I think it's bogus. If it gets someone
on a bike, or out of a car, then it's 100% OK by me.
So there you have it, The Cyclotourist says it's OK!
Feel free to quote me on that.

Cheers,
David

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On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 5:25 PM, David Mayne dma...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a Bionx powered Bleriot. Severe osteo arthritis in the knee led to
 it, the only way I can ride much now in hilly Seattle. I got over any
 notion of shame.

 David


 On Friday, January 10, 2014, Ray Shine wrote:

 I have very seriously considered it -- several times. I am an old guy
 (65+) but in relatively good health. I don't need an ebike, but there are
 plenty of times where I would welcome the ability to use power assist on my
 pedaling.  If I only cycled for health reasons, then I would see no point
 in a conversion. But I cycle mainly for transportation purposes, and
 because there is very little free/cheap parking in San Francisco.  I carry
 cargo on my bike, and I have several hills in between my home and my
 office. I can and do make the commute each day without an ebike, but I
 would have no qualms at all using an ebike on the commute.  Price has been
 a factor, as well. But, the technology is evolving very rapidly, and there
 are very reasonable ebikes on the market. I would be more inclined to go
 for a factory build now rather than a conversion. I see often some very
 impressive factory ebikes on the streets of SF.

   --
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 *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 *Sent:* Friday, January 10, 2014 2:01 PM
 *Subject:* [RBW] Riv e-bike conversion?

 I know the very idea is anathema, but has anyone had any experience with
 converting a Rivendell bike of any model to an e-bike?

 Thanks,
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Re: [RBW] FS to Australians: Shimano 105 FDs, MAFAC Brakes, MUSA Knickers, Riv NOBS Sunglasses, etc.

And when you make it to SoCal, come check out the party on March 15th in
Redlands!!!

Cheers,
David

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On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 7:02 PM, sameness samen...@gmail.com wrote:

 Moving back to California next weekend, so here’s a bunch of stuff I just
 don’t feel like bringing back with me.

 I am under no illusions that this stuff is particularly valuable or
 exemplary in any way, but there's no bicycle co-op or the like here in town
 to donate, and I'd hate to just chuck 'em in the bin, so they're priced
 accordingly.

 Please note that these items are for delivery to an Australian postal
 address only, and all prices include shipping via AusPost Parcel Post 500g
 Sachel with tracking at $8.25 a pop.

 Payment via PayPal personal/gift, please and thanks. I’d really like to
 get these in the post ASAP, so if you’re keen, please plan to organise your
 payment on the sooner side.

 Email *sameness at gmail dot com* with questions or interest. Thanks!


 Photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/30168800@N00/sets/


 *MAFAC Racer Centerpull Brakes w/ New Dia-Compe Canti Pads - $25.00
 shipped*

 Decent cosmetic and good functional condition. Pulled from an old Peugeot.
 Front is nutted, rear bolts vertically through the brake bridge. Brand new,
 unused set of Dia-Compe OPC-66 Gray Matter cantilever brake pads installed.
 Includes four original brake pads and two original cable straddle hangers.
 Disregard that lone shoeless brake in the last pic; it’s just to show off
 the pads and hangers below.

 *Jandd Mountaineering Seat Bag, made in USA ca.1980s - $20.00 shipped*

 Used but fine useable condition. Approx. dimensions when fully stuffed are
 17cm long, 7cm tall, 5cm at the front, and about 9cm at the back. A little
 dirty from regular use, with some road grease here and there, most
 noticeable at the top front, i.e. the area directly beneath the saddle.

 *Avenir Steel Toe Clips, Size M - $15.00 shipped*

 Made in France, ca. 1980s. I wear a men’s 8.5 AUS/9.5 USA/43 Euro, and
 they fit me fine. Rough measurement from where they bolt onto the pedals to
 the forward most part of the split toe cage is approximately 55mm. Light
 surface pitting and finish oxidation, but overall still pretty shiny.

 *Shimano 105 Downtube Shifter Levers, Model SL-1050 - $20.00 shipped*

 Circa mid-1980s. Rear is adjustable between friction and indexed 6 speed
 (and possibly 7 speed?); front is friction only. Shimano downtube adaptors
 are included, but no boss bolts. Good cosmetic condition for their age,
 with minor pitting and finish oxidation. Part of the black screened S and H
 on the front shifter is worn away.

 *Shimano 105 Double Front Derailleur, Model FD-1050 - $20.00 shipped*

 Circa mid-1980s. Road double, 28.6 seat tube clamp. Some surface
 scratches, minor pitting, and wear to the black accent paint consistent
 with its age, but is totally mechanically functional.

 *Shimano 105 SC Double Front Derailleur, Model FD-1056 - $20.00 shipped*

 Circa 1990s. Road double, braze-on as stock, but with aftermarket 28.6
 seat tube clamp included as pictured. Hey, maybe you just need the clamp?
 Again, surface scratches, minor pitting, totally functional.

 *Rivendell NOBS Sunglasses - $20.00 shipped*

 H.L. Bouton safety glasses, aka NOBS sunglasses, made in the USA, as-new
 in the original box. I bought two pair from Riv years ago, so they’re brand
 new and have never been worn. Translucent dark grey frame with green
 lenses. You can pop and swap the lenses; Riv still sells replacements in
 green and grey: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/az51.htm

 *Rivendell MUSA Knickers, Size M, Black - $40.00 shipped*

 These are the original incarnations, i.e. they have the Velcro adjustable
 straps, not the elastic and buckles like the new ones. I tried to like
 these, but I just can’t get down with wearing nylon. I’ve worn them about
 half an hour in total around the house hoping to get over my nylonophobia,
 never once on a bike. They’ve been through a cold wash and line dry maybe
 three times. Note that I carefully removed the MUSA patch from the strap
 with a seam ripper (not a fan of logos on my clothes), so the underlying
 stitching is still perfect. New ones are $66.00, so basically less than
 half price.


 Jeff Hagedorn
 Warragul, VIC Australia

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Re: [RBW] Re: Mixte frame design question

Red hearts for the win!

Cheers,
David

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On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.comwrote:

 I love hearts if anyone wants to buy me a mixte I would ride the hell out
 of it.
 On Jan 10, 2014 8:53 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Aha, the hearts! I would confidently choose a frame on that basis!

 I think mixtes are cool; I may well buy one for my daughter (if she also
 thinks they are cool.)


 On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Cecily Walker 
 cecily.wal...@gmail.comwrote:

 I wore skirts a lot more when I could still wear hgeels, so I got a
 mixte because I thought they'd be easier to mount than a diamond frame. But
 the last two mixtes I've owned (a cheap Norco and the Betty Foy) have
 proved me wrong. I could've just gotten a Sam Hillborne, but then I
 wouldn't have pretty red hearts all over my frame. :-)



 On Friday, January 10, 2014 8:48:54 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Serious question: What's the point of a mixte if you don't wear skirts?
 To put it another way: why are they so popular?

 Patrick Moore, who has owned at least two with the extra stays and dual
 down tubes.


 On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Pam Ellen Hudson pammi...@gmail.comwrote:

 I will say, as the owner of a double tube mixte custom from Royal H
 (the lovelybike frame that was stolen but I got back!).  The bike is
 unusually flexible at high speeds going downhill.  There is quite a bit of
 flex in the frame generally.  I will test it out with lowered panniers in
 the next month and let me know of the results.  My frame is simply 
 pristine
 -- but I had always been a roadie -- so for me the difference was
 significant.  I think that makes the mixte frame not the best choice for
 rando events or touring -- it does make a good commuter and is good for
 long rides though.

 My thoughts.

 On Jan 9, 2014, at 6:44 AM, Matthew J matth...@gmail.com wrote:

  I meant to say that I prefer the looks of the double lateral tube
 style of step through bike than the single diagatube style.  :)

  SOMA Buena Vista is a nice double lateral tube design.
 http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8348/8261188891_959b6b76ea_o.jpg

 The double tubes look nice and from the right builder can be a decent
 bike.  A lot of those double tubes are very flexible though and not in the
 planing sort of way.  Riv (and others) single tube down tends to make a
 stronger bike.

 On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 7:04:20 PM UTC-6, Tim Gavin wrote:

 I didn't mean to start a pedantic discussion around the term mixte:
 (but thanks for the background info, Jan and co.)  Though I used it with
 what seems to be a widely held distinction (at least in US).

 I meant to say that I prefer the looks of the double lateral tube
 style of step through bike than the single diagatube style.  :)

 SOMA Buena Vista is a nice double lateral tube design.
 http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8348/8261188891_959b6b76ea_o.jpg


 On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Jan Heine hei...@earthlink.netwrote:

 Interestingly, mixte seems to have a clear definition more in the
 U.S. than in France. Of the great constructeurs, I've only seen the term
 mixte used in the Goéland catalogue. Most speak of vélo dame or 
 similar
 terms.

 Regarding the frame design, the twin-diagonal-tubed mixte was
 invented by A. Sixt in the 1930s, as a more triangulated design that was
 intended to make the frame stiffer than the traditional women's frames 
 with
 a deeply dropped or even curved diagonal tube. He also used twin 
 diagonal
 tubes to stiffen tandem frames.

 Around 1938, the great constructeur Reyhand developed a more
 sophisticated frame design, with a dropped single top tube and two extra
 seatstays. In profile, it looks similar to the twin-diagonal-tubed 
 frame.
 To stiffen the connection at the center of the frame, the extra stays
 extend beyond the seat tube and attach to the diagonal tube as well. 
 André
 Reiss, the maker of Reynand, patented this design, as well as a tandem
 frame with two sets of diagonal reinforcement stays (one set from the 
 head
 tube to the rear BB, the other from the front seat lug to the rear
 dropouts). After Reiss died in World War II, the designs were widely 
 copied.

 You can see examples of these designs in the Bicycle Quarterly
 Image Archive at

 http://www.bikequarterly.com/color_photo_supplement.html

 The twin-diagonal-tubed mixte was much easier to make, and thus
 remained popular among mass producers. I don't think Sheldon Brown was 
 even
 aware of the second Reyhand type when he coined his definition of 
 mixte,
 but he was thinking of women's frames with either a dropped top tube 
 with
 no extra rear stays (which puts bending loads on the seat tube and thus
 offends engineers) or the twin-diagonal-tubed mixte. More recently,
 Rivendell inspired its mixtes on the Reyhand type, but without 
 extending
 the extra stays beyond the seat tube.

 Jan Heine
 Editor
 Bicycle

Re: [RBW] Riv e-bike conversion?

David, does your Bleriot have a 26 wheel, or a 700c? I haven't seen any 
650b Bionix kits anywhere. 

On Friday, January 10, 2014 5:25:00 PM UTC-8, David Mayne wrote:

 I have a Bionx powered Bleriot. Severe osteo arthritis in the knee led to 
 it, the only way I can ride much now in hilly Seattle. I got over any 
 notion of shame.

 David

 On Friday, January 10, 2014, Ray Shine wrote:

 I have very seriously considered it -- several times. I am an old guy 
 (65+) but in relatively good health. I don't need an ebike, but there are 
 plenty of times where I would welcome the ability to use power assist on my 
 pedaling.  If I only cycled for health reasons, then I would see no point 
 in a conversion. But I cycle mainly for transportation purposes, and 
 because there is very little free/cheap parking in San Francisco.  I carry 
 cargo on my bike, and I have several hills in between my home and my 
 office. I can and do make the commute each day without an ebike, but I 
 would have no qualms at all using an ebike on the commute.  Price has been 
 a factor, as well. But, the technology is evolving very rapidly, and there 
 are very reasonable ebikes on the market. I would be more inclined to go 
 for a factory build now rather than a conversion. I see often some very 
 impressive factory ebikes on the streets of SF.

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 *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
 *Sent:* Friday, January 10, 2014 2:01 PM
 *Subject:* [RBW] Riv e-bike conversion?
  
 I know the very idea is anathema, but has anyone had any experience with 
 converting a Rivendell bike of any model to an e-bike?

 Thanks,
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Re: [RBW] Riv e-bike conversion?

2014-01-10 Thread jimD


+1  - electric assist looks good to me - beats PEDs.

-JimD

On Jan 10, 2014, at 7:38 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

 IMHO, not anathema at all! I know there's that divide in the bicycling world 
 between assists and not, but I think it's bogus. If it gets someone on a 
 bike, or out of a car, then it's 100% OK by me. 
 So there you have it, The Cyclotourist says it's OK!
 Feel free to quote me on that.
 
 Cheers,
 David
 
 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal
 
 
 
 
 
 On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 5:25 PM, David Mayne dma...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have a Bionx powered Bleriot. Severe osteo arthritis in the knee led to it, 
 the only way I can ride much now in hilly Seattle. I got over any notion of 
 shame.
 
 David
 
 
 On Friday, January 10, 2014, Ray Shine wrote:
 I have very seriously considered it -- several times. I am an old guy (65+) 
 but in relatively good health. I don't need an ebike, but there are plenty of 
 times where I would welcome the ability to use power assist on my pedaling.  
 If I only cycled for health reasons, then I would see no point in a 
 conversion. But I cycle mainly for transportation purposes, and because there 
 is very little free/cheap parking in San Francisco.  I carry cargo on my 
 bike, and I have several hills in between my home and my office. I can and do 
 make the commute each day without an ebike, but I would have no qualms at all 
 using an ebike on the commute.  Price has been a factor, as well. But, the 
 technology is evolving very rapidly, and there are very reasonable ebikes on 
 the market. I would be more inclined to go for a factory build now rather 
 than a conversion. I see often some very impressive factory ebikes on the 
 streets of SF.
 
 From: Cecily Walker cecily.wal...@gmail.com
 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 2:01 PM
 Subject: [RBW] Riv e-bike conversion?
 
 I know the very idea is anathema, but has anyone had any experience with 
 converting a Rivendell bike of any model to an e-bike?
 
 Thanks,
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[RBW] Re: Vending machine for cyclists

2014-01-10 Thread dougP

On a tour along the Danube River in September, we noticed Schwalbe vending
machines at many of the bicycle rest areas. All different tube sizes,
patch kits, etc. Really a brilliant idea.

dougP

On Friday, January 10, 2014 5:28:48 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:

We had a thread the other day where the point was made that 650B is risky
to tour with because most shops don't have 650B tires and tubes.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-IviogSFa75s/Us7Wh0Qjd8I/MXI/diAKxErTbAY/w506-h675/20140104_085624_Olima%2BSt.jpg

Re: [RBW] Re: Vending machine for cyclists

Love it, these are great! Especially the ID/WY one!

Cheers,
David

it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal

On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 8:44 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:

On a tour along the Danube River in September, we noticed Schwalbe vending
machines at many of the bicycle rest areas. All different tube sizes,
patch kits, etc. Really a brilliant idea.

dougP

On Friday, January 10, 2014 5:28:48 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:

We had a thread the other day where the point was made that 650B is risky
to tour with because most shops don't have 650B tires and tubes.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-IviogSFa75s/Us7Wh0Qjd8I/MXI/diAKxErTbAY/w506-h675/20140104_085624_Olima%2BSt.jpg

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[RBW] Re: Speaking of Off-Pavent Rides... Come to Redlands this Spring!

2014-01-10 Thread dougP

Ontario is closest but service has cut way back the last few years.  Palm 
Springs?  Mmmm, not so sure how far you can get from there.  Santa Ana / 
John Wayne has service to Denver.  

If you want to ship a bike, we can work out someplace to receive it  send 
back.  

dougP

On Friday, January 10, 2014 9:48:11 AM UTC-8, jinxed wrote:

 So...hypothetically speakingif one were to fly out from Denver 
 CO...what would be the closest airport? Santa Ana? 



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Re: [RBW] Re: Speaking of Off-Pavent Rides... Come to Redlands this Spring!

Yes, what Doug said. But PS is very much adding a lot of flights. It's the
it airport in SoCal right now. LAX is cheapest, but another hour away.

Cheers,
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On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 8:50 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:

 Ontario is closest but service has cut way back the last few years.  Palm
 Springs?  Mmmm, not so sure how far you can get from there.  Santa Ana /
 John Wayne has service to Denver.

 If you want to ship a bike, we can work out someplace to receive it  send
 back.

 dougP


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 So...hypothetically speakingif one were to fly out from Denver
 CO...what would be the closest airport? Santa Ana?

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Re: [RBW] Tire Width and Performance

Did you say Specialized

My attorneys will be contacting you shortly with a cD letter.

Cheers,
David

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On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Clearly the ironclad scientific conclusion is that that all of you have
 the slowest possible wheels.  If you increase the weight of your wheels,
 you will climb faster because the extra momentum will push you along.  If
 you decrease the weight of your wheels, you will climb faster because
 lighter wheels spin up faster.  You (all of you all and me) climb slowly
 because your wheels have you in a local minimum.  Do something about that!

 We should get into marketing, maybe for Specialized.

 ;-)



 On Friday, January 10, 2014 6:11:32 AM UTC-8, stevef wrote:

 I notice that effect a lot on the fat bike.  LOTS of wheel weight there!
 When you hit a climb with momentum on your side, you can feel that rotating
 mass throwing you up the hill.  It feels similar to the way a fixed gear
 seems to push you along as you pedal it...

 Steve


 On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Steve Palincsar pali...@his.com wrote:

 On 01/03/2014 01:02 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:


 The difference between A and B will be the extra work the rider had to
 do to spin up the extra 200g of rolling weight.  I'm saying that
 difference will be small.  The heavier wheel is harder to spin up, but the
 magnitude of the difference is small.  If the total power output of the
 rider is ~100 Watts, then the difference between the two will be 1 or 2
 Watts.  Less than the difference we suffer by running a dynamo.


 And the additional weight will act as a flywheel, and help keep the
 rotation more nearly constant.



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[RBW] WTT: My Bleriot for Rambouillet or Saluki (or others?)...

Hi everybody,

I am interested in trading my full build 55cm Bleriot for a 
54cm Rambouillet or 52cm Saluki (or thereabouts).
I would also be interested in a comparable sized Homer or Atlantis, but am 
sure that a these would not be a fair trade for a Bleriot, but you never 
know, so I am throwing it out there for anyone with an inexpensive one to 
trade.

The bike is in very good shape. Frame is in alignment. Garage kept and 
lovingly ridden. A few minor scratches.
Bleriot has new Albas on it now but you can have a new 44 Noodle or used 
Moustache, whichever you prefer - I will include the bar with the bike, 
along with their respective brake levers.

Let me know if you are interested
Here is a link to pics of my Bleriot in its current build as listed. I'll 
send all the detailed pics you like, and will try to post more here 
tomorrow: 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/70237737@N00/11858126393/in/set-72157639592411145

*Here is the build list:*

*Rivendell Bleriot:*
 
Frame Size: 55cm

Handlebar: NITTO Albatross Aluminum (less than 500 miles on it)

Grips: Miesha’s Cork Grips (less than 500 miles)

Stem: 8cm NITTO Tallux  (less than 500 miles on it)

Seatpost:  NITTO Crystal Fellow

Saddle: Brooks B67 (new, only ridden maybe 100 miles)

Headset: Shimano 600

Brake Levers: Shimano Silver MTB Levers (less than 500 miles)

Brakes: Tektro R559 Sidepulls (Allen Bolt) (New, maybe three rides on them)

Bar End Shifter Levers:  Front Derailer shifter Lever: Shimano SL-7800 
Light Action Dura-Ace

  Rear Derailer Shifter Lever: Shimano SL-7800 105 (or 10S?) 
Dura –Ace Down Tube shifter

Front Derailer: Shimano Ultegra FD-6600 (double)

Rear Derailer: Shimano Ultegra

Crankset: Right crank arm – Shimano 172.5 length, FCR700 Japan VIA 4NEL

  Left Crank Arm – Shimano 172.5 length, FCR Japan VIA DK

Cranks: Outer – SG-X 105 50F

  Inner – 34 tooth

Cassette: 10 speed 12-27 tooth count.

Wheels: Front – Shimano Deore HB M530 VIAM Hub/ Velocity Rim Twin Hollow 32 
Hole. Shimano Skewers.

  Rear – Shimano Deore FH M530 VIAM Hub/ Velocity Synergy Rim 
(newish rim- about 300 miles on it.) Shimano Skewers.
 
Fenders: SKS Longboards P45 – Silver

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[RBW] Re: WTT: My Bleriot for Rambouillet or Saluki (or others?)...



 *PS-*

Forgot to mention that it is an Shimano Ultegra Compact Crankset.

*Shipping or Pick Up:*

I will ship it in the same RBW box my Sam came in last Spring, with all the 
same packing material.

Or, pick it up yourself if you are local. Come by to take it for a test 
ride anytime. Just let me know.

I might ... might ... might consider selling it outright, but would prefer 
to trade.

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[RBW] Bagmatcher Wants to Trade Carradice Nelson

2014-01-10 Thread Eric Norris

I have one in black in very good condition. I'd like to have one in green. Want 
to trade?

Photos here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157639635656556/

Mine: No cuts or damage; lightly used. Yours: Hopefully the same.

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[RBW] Re: WTT: My Bleriot for Rambouillet or Saluki (or others?)...



 *Forgot to mention the Pletscher Kickstand (new), and that it is an 
 Shimano Ultegra Compact Crankset.*

I will ship it to you in the original RBW shipping box with original 
packing materials that my Sam came in last spring.

If you are local, just come by to see it. Just contact me to set up a time.

I might...might...might consider selling it outright, but would prefer to 
trade for a Rambouillet or Saluki.

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Re: [RBW] Bagmatcher Wants to Trade Carradice Nelson

I have a green Pendle...
On Jan 11, 2014 12:17 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:

 I have one in black in very good condition. I'd like to have one in green.
 Want to trade?

 Photos here:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157639635656556/

 Mine: No cuts or damage; lightly used. Yours: Hopefully the same.

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[RBW] Re: Training ride today on Bleriot.



 Thanks' y'all.

 
I am hoping to take the Sam on the ride, as I find it easier to ride on 
drops than Albas.
I think I really prefer drops to any other bar at this point.

I am feeling much better today, but still sensitive.

Thanks for the link, Tom.
I might register and just hope that I can make it.
If the weather is good, I might take the Sam out for a ride Sunday, and 
Lord willing, I'll be fine.

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[RBW] Schwalbe 650B/27.5 Thunder Burt Review

http://cyclotourist.blogspot.com/2014/01/schwalbe-thunder-burts-i-like-em.html

Don't know how they'll wear, but initial blush is all positive!


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[RBW] Re: 13 shots for 13...2013 that is...and maybe a few more...

Thirteen of my faves from '13  
http://www.flickr.com/photos/16461051@N04/sets/72157639637059295/

Sorry, Tom... That group shot was one of my faves too!!

On Friday, January 10, 2014 7:54:37 PM UTC-5, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:

 Another baker's dozen… 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/sets/72157639630139996/

 --Smitty


 On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 6:00:55 PM UTC-8, Meade Anderson wrote:

 its hard to  pick just a few photos from so many great rides however I 
 pared it down to 13, well make that just a few more than 13..anyone else 
 with a similar compilation should post away...

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/julianmeade/sets/72157638895721164/

 meade...who has taken up running in these single digit times...




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Re: [RBW] 13 shots for 13...2013 that is...and maybe a few more...

That Creamsicle Dreamcycle might just be my favorite bike of the year.

On Friday, January 10, 2014 1:19:44 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:

  My 13 (+ 1, as I couldn’t leave out a couple of family brag pics).  A 
 great year!

  

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/sets/72157639619480186/

  

  

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 its hard to  pick just a few photos from so many great rides however I 
 pared it down to 13, well make that just a few more than 13..anyone else 
 with a similar compilation should post away...
  
  
  
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/julianmeade/sets/72157638895721164/
  
  
  
 meade...who has taken up running in these single digit times...
  
  
  
  
  
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[RBW] Re: 13 shots for 13...2013 that is...and maybe a few more...

Hope you're doing well, John.  Here's to riding together again in 2014.

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On Friday, January 10, 2014 10:00:36 AM UTC-5, John Philip wrote:

 Great pics all...Here's mine. A difficult year but great riding just the 
 same.  http://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/sets/72157639593326264/
 Cheers,
 John

 On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 9:00:55 PM UTC-5, Meade Anderson wrote:

 its hard to  pick just a few photos from so many great rides however I 
 pared it down to 13, well make that just a few more than 13..anyone else 
 with a similar compilation should post away...

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/julianmeade/sets/72157638895721164/

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