[RBW] Re: Poll: What are your single speed gears?

2014-03-13 Thread Evan Baird
I've been running a 94mm 34/16 gearing, but just converted it to 1x9 with a 
Riv 9 speed cassette. Still technically a single speed til I connect the 
derailleur cable. My 1X1 is standard 32/16.

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[RBW] Re: Edelux - Blug Post

2014-03-13 Thread Scot Brooks
The good news is that any fabrication shop can whip up a light mount and weld 
it on to a chromoly or stainless rack no sweat. 

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[RBW] Re: Riv-esque Bike shops in Portland?

2014-03-13 Thread justinaugust
Visiting Velo-Cult is like the bike Internet made real. Loved it. 

-J

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[RBW] Re: Poll: What are your single speed gears?

2014-03-13 Thread Tony DeFilippo
I've been thinking slot about gearing, 2 slide configurations and WI products 
myself lately...  The eccentric rear hub has allowed me to SS my XO-3 and I've 
been riding it allot over the past couple weeks.  Right now I'm running 45x19 
but I also ran 40x17 which are pretty darn close anyway. 

My rides have been all paved, rail trail and relatively flat streets.  Both 
ratios work pretty well but I'd love to take advantage of the 17/19 dos eno 
that I have with a pair of chain rings.

I keep wondering if I'd actually swap that often given that so much of my 
riding is pretty uniform and flat.  I think I might like the idea of the 
versatility and not take the time to do the manual shift...

Tony

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[RBW] Re: Edelux - Blug Post

2014-03-13 Thread David Spranger
I have made that same mount for a couple of my bikes. The first time I saw 
it used was in a picture, either posted here or the iBOB group, several 
years back.

David Very much anticipating attending the NAHBS tommow Spranger
Charlotte, NC

On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 9:32:36 PM UTC-4, blakcloud wrote:

 Rob Perks from Ocean Air Cycles has a creative set up which you can 
 seehere.http://www.flickr.com/photos/rperks1/8718438496/




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[RBW] Re: Grant's Overseas Trip - What do you want?

2014-03-13 Thread Ron Mc
Sun XCD - I would like to see the Japanese venture succeed - the quality is 
there (Microshift), and the finish on the parts is *al dente*.  They would 
be a functional and classy splash on the classiest bike.  

On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 3:53:30 PM UTC-5, Larry H wrote:

 So what cool bike parts does everyone want Grant to bring back from 
 Japan/Taiwan/wherever else he was going?


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Re: [RBW] Re: Appaloosa Prototype on Blug?

2014-03-13 Thread Matthew J
An additional point about wheel and tire changes - the variety and quality 
of  700c tires has never been better.

It is fairly simple to duplicate the suggestions above with one wheel set 
and multiple tires.  For instance, rather than having separate 700, 650B 
and 26 wheel sets for fast, daily and OR riding, one could have a 700C 
wheel set built around medium width rims that would easily accommodate 
Compass Barlow Pass for fast road riding, Soma Xpress for every day (and 
even gravel road for that matter) riding, and after pulling off the 
fenders, the Bruce Gordon Rock n' Road for off road riding.

These tires all work well with cantis, v-brakes, or even the extended reach 
side pulls.  

Tires take up a lot less space than rims.

In the end I expect 95% or maybe more of the Riv market will ultimately 
decide on one type of tire they like best and not bother swapping no matter 
how easy it is to do so.  

On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:18:28 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Cantilevers don't have a limit to the size of rims they work with :-) As 
 long as the frame is built with the right tolerances, cantis are pretty 
 darn adjustable!

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 12:37 PM, clayton bailey 
 treef...@yahoo.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 Someday, disc brakes will be old school and Rivendell will embrace 
 them. I might be dead then, but if Rivendell lives on, it will 
 happen...[image: 
 *;) winking] Seriously, If I remember correctly, Grant has not ruled 
 them out. He just hasn't found a need for them yet as the bikes they 
 currently sell don't NEED them. A 29+ would need them as the rims are 
 really wide.[image: *:D big grin]
  



  

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[RBW] Re: Edelux - Blug Post

2014-03-13 Thread Matthew J
Rob Perks from Ocean Air Cycles has a creative set up which you can see
 here. http://www.flickr.com/photos/rperks1/8718438496/ 

First time I saw this.  Very clever re-use of old components.

On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 8:32:36 PM UTC-5, blakcloud wrote:

 Rob Perks from Ocean Air Cycles has a creative set up which you can 
 seehere.http://www.flickr.com/photos/rperks1/8718438496/




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[RBW] Re: Edelux - Blug Post

2014-03-13 Thread Matthew J
Not to beat a dead horse, but there are several solutions which allow you 
to mount the light the right way up. Wouldn't you want to light positioned 
further forward anyway? 
Ge
Sometimes rack and bag choice get in the way.  Did not take too many rides 
on my commuter with the Edelux mounted per manufacturer spec to the fork 
crown to realize how well German lights work there.

On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 3:50:49 PM UTC-5, Evan Baird wrote:

 Not to beat a dead horse, but there are several solutions which allow you 
 to mount the light the right way up. Wouldn't you want to light positioned 
 further forward anyway?

 http://harriscyclery.net/product/m.a.p.-fender-mount-for-headlight-3607.htm


 http://www.renehersestore.com/servlet/the-341/Light-Bracket-for-Edelux/Detail

 http://shop.boxdogbikes.com/products/bdb-handmade-light-mount

 http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/wingmann-light-mount


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[RBW] Re: Grant's Overseas Trip - What do you want?

2014-03-13 Thread Michael


 Nitto Stems that have less than 190mm of rise in 6 and 7cm extensions.


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[RBW] Re: Riv-esque Bike shops in Portland?

2014-03-13 Thread iamkeith
My Rambouillet was originally sold at Coventry Cycles when they were a 
Rivendell Dealer, and I bought my All Rounder at Sellwood Cycles.  Both 
great shops, both pre-date the current hipster culture, 
bike-as-fashion-statement movement that some people associate with Portland 
today.  Also, don't forget Universal Cycles as a last-option if you can't 
find what you need in a real shop.   They don't have mechanics or a 
showroom where you can browse, but you can order on their site for local 
pick-up.  They have a pretty diverse inventory.



On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 5:21:55 PM UTC-6, Skip Richmond wrote:

 Where are the box dog bikes of multnomah county?
 the american cyclerys of the river city?
 the hand-made leather-bound bridge-city bag n racks?

 i ain't talkin this portland design works chump-swag
 i'm talking the real deal, hand-hammered, nickel-plated good stuff.

 tired of relying on mail order from riv, let me know where i can pick up 
 an xd-2 and some brass ferrules.

 see you in the extra-wide bike lanes,
 skip


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[RBW] Re: Edelux - Blug Post

2014-03-13 Thread Jan Heine


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-9-BgcVClSC4/UyHCr4nz7PI/ACI/Z3C93t1D-GA/s1600/Jan_Herse_light.jpg
A hanging Edelux makes a lot of sense on a rack with a dedicated attachment 
for the light. There is less torque on the mounting bolt, so it's less 
likely to come loose due to vibrations. (A standing light always wants to 
rotate downward.) The hanging Edelux also makes sense when you mount your 
light under the handlebars – less obtrusive than on top of the bars...

Above is the hanging Edelux on my randonneur bike. I modified the 
attachment so it is forked. This allows me to adjust the angle of the light 
while riding (higher when out of town to see even when going into a dip in 
the road, lower in town to avoid blinding oncoming traffic), without the 
bolt loosening. Once the hanging Edelux II will become available, I'll 
probably run the lighting wire through the tube that supports the light – 
there is less risk of snagging it that way, and it doesn't look nice 
exposed as it currently is.

Jan Heine
Editor
Bicycle Quarterly
http://www.bikequarterly.com

Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/

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Re: [RBW] Re: Appaloosa Prototype on Blug?

2014-03-13 Thread Leslie
On Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:00:25 AM UTC-4, Matthew J wrote:


 In the end I expect 95% or maybe more of the Riv market will ultimately 
 decide on one type of tire they like best and not bother swapping no matter 
 how easy it is to do so.  


Or, end up w/ another bike for the other tire... (N+1, right?)  

Similar bikes, but one's rolling on Hetres for most road work, the other on 
MSO's for mixed, and another on Rumpkins...   any one of the bikes could be 
set up more like a road bike, a rando bike, a gravel bike, or a tourer...  
but each are now nuanced, so I can grab the one suitable for a particular 
ride (truth be told, any are good for most anything that the others are... 
but, if I had a long road ride planned and wanted to be quick, I'd not take 
the Bomba, but take the Ram instead  if I wanted to camp, I'd take the 
Bomba instead of the Ram if I wanted to be quick on decent trails, 
probably use the canti-Rom

So... the Appaloosa...
I like it.  But, w/ a tentacular Bomba, I don't see there being a 'need' 
for me to add one of these to the stable.  I did pick the Bomba over the 
Hunq, but there were things I liked about the Hunq; if I didn't have the 
Bomba, the Appaloosa might have been a good bike, a bit closer to the 
Hunq... They're all good.  


 

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[RBW] Re: Appaloosa Prototype on Blug?

2014-03-13 Thread RJM
Maybe stability...I don't really know. I am a shorter dude so ride smaller 
bikes and the longer chainstays like on my Sam Hillborne (compared to my 
older bikes) seem to make the bike feel more stable. 
 
On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:06:41 PM UTC-5, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

 Other than pannier clearance, what exactly are the benefits of the longer 
 chainstays? 

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[RBW] Re: Grant's Overseas Trip - What do you want?

2014-03-13 Thread jpp
Chinese made carbon fiber Atlantis! 
 ...only kidding!


On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 4:53:30 PM UTC-4, Larry H wrote:

 So what cool bike parts does everyone want Grant to bring back from 
 Japan/Taiwan/wherever else he was going?


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Re: [RBW] Re: Appaloosa Prototype on Blug?

2014-03-13 Thread RJM
I really would much rather have several bikes than one do it all with 
wheel swaps. I just don't think the wheel swap thing works as well in 
practice as in theory. 
 
I tried it on my Sam with Paul moto brakes, going from 650b to 700. It was 
a little pointless; the 650b wheels with 38 tires does just fine. 
 
Does anybody know if the Appaloosa is built to be more mountain bike like 
than the Yves or Betty?  Meaning a little stronger to take some bumps 
better?  Just curious because my next rive will be mostly for trail riding. 
I got the fast roadeo, the comfy long distance Sam, now I need a mountain 
bike. 
 

On Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:48:42 AM UTC-5, Leslie wrote:

 On Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:00:25 AM UTC-4, Matthew J wrote: 


 In the end I expect 95% or maybe more of the Riv market will ultimately 
 decide on one type of tire they like best and not bother swapping no matter 
 how easy it is to do so.  


 Or, end up w/ another bike for the other tire... (N+1, right?)  

 Similar bikes, but one's rolling on Hetres for most road work, the other 
 on MSO's for mixed, and another on Rumpkins...   any one of the bikes could 
 be set up more like a road bike, a rando bike, a gravel bike, or a 
 tourer...  but each are now nuanced, so I can grab the one suitable for a 
 particular ride (truth be told, any are good for most anything that the 
 others are... but, if I had a long road ride planned and wanted to be 
 quick, I'd not take the Bomba, but take the Ram instead  if I wanted to 
 camp, I'd take the Bomba instead of the Ram if I wanted to be quick on 
 decent trails, probably use the canti-Rom

 So... the Appaloosa...
 I like it.  But, w/ a tentacular Bomba, I don't see there being a 'need' 
 for me to add one of these to the stable.  I did pick the Bomba over the 
 Hunq, but there were things I liked about the Hunq; if I didn't have the 
 Bomba, the Appaloosa might have been a good bike, a bit closer to the 
 Hunq... They're all good.  

   


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[RBW] Re: 650b Roadeo

2014-03-13 Thread RJM
It would make a pretty neat custom. 
 
I will say my Roadeo is pretty awesome...very smooth and nimble, feels 
faster than my Sam but a lot of that has to do with the way I set it up. It 
is a good club riding bike.
On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 2:54:11 PM UTC-5, stevef wrote:

 I'm starting to think my perfect bike might be a Roadeo built around 38mm 
 tires on 650b wheels.  I notice that Riv says made to order-please call 
 for Roadeos-wonder if they'd make them that much to order? 

 I'd ask them directly but I'm not nearly serious enough about it to bug 
 them...yet!

 Steve


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[RBW] Re: Grant's Overseas Trip - What do you want?

2014-03-13 Thread RJM
I would like to see riv come out with a crankset.
 

On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 3:53:30 PM UTC-5, Larry H wrote:

 So what cool bike parts does everyone want Grant to bring back from 
 Japan/Taiwan/wherever else he was going?


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Re: [RBW] 650b Roadeo

2014-03-13 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
I don't know.  Is my 650b Ram a Ram? The additional tire width is
possible because the wheel is smaller and widest part of the tire is
where the frame is wider. However, even I don't think the Roadeo is a
good conversion candidate because the BB height is even lower than the
Ram.  However, I could really see the benefits of a lighter tubing
650b brevet bike.  The Ram with Hetres is a remarkably comfortable
ride, and a Roadeo-like 650b bike would be similar. My AHH with
Pari-Moto tires is very close to the 650b Ram, but the Ram with Hetres
feels even more stable and smooth...

Toshi


On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote:
 How is a 650B bike that takes 38mm tires a Roadeo? I'm not denigrating
 the bike-- it sounds fine. But how would it be a Roadeo, which is
 supposed to be more or less a road-only bike that takes (for
 Rivendell) narrower tires?

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Re: [RBW] Poll: What are your single speed gears?

2014-03-13 Thread Philip Williamson
Thanks, Doug, for that S3X gear chart. I like all three of those gears, but I 
haven't seen a 53t ring at my house in... Ever. A 48x15 should be similar-ish. 
This thread has me revisiting my S3X (SB(rown)X - nice!) and Sachs Automatic 
internal multispeed hubs. The news about the White Industries 16/19 freewheel 
has me thinking, too...

Philip
www.biketinker.com 
(I fixed a Brooks saddle this weekend)

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[RBW] Re: The mind set of the car centric society

2014-03-13 Thread Tom Virgil
Some food for thought.  Dutch style 
intersectionshttp://99percentinvisible.tumblr.com/post/78782918451/if-we-had-dutch-style-intersections-wed-ride-our
.

See http://www.protectedintersection.com/ as well.

On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 6:05:04 PM UTC-7, Curtis wrote:

 Hi all,

 The following may make interesting reading.


 http://www.collectorsweekly.com/articles/murder-machines/

 Ride aware,

 Curtis


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[RBW] Re: Appaloosa Prototype on Blug?

2014-03-13 Thread Matthew J
 Other than pannier clearance, what exactly are the benefits of the longer 
chainstays? 

I restored and toured twice on this Trek 728:  
http://cyclofiend.com/cc/2008/cc484-joelmatthews0508.html 

The long chain stays paired with the right wheelset and tires of course 
foster a very smooth and stable ride.  Optimal for the long back road 
X-country tours that were popular in the late '70s with the people then 
buying Treks.

That bike was not the best on roads with sharp turns, however.

On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:06:41 PM UTC-5, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

 Other than pannier clearance, what exactly are the benefits of the longer 
 chainstays? 

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Re: [RBW] Poll: What are your single speed gears?

2014-03-13 Thread Dan Abelson
I run 40 x 16 on my Quickbeam with 700 x 35 tires.

Dan Abelson
On Mar 12, 2014 2:10 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a build concept for a SimpleBeam kind of thing.  The steep hill I
 live on completely rules out a singlespeed for the uphill part, and rules
 out riding fixed for the downhill part.  Still, I notice that for my
 commute I use a particular small handful of gears.  It makes me think that
 it is plausible for me to build a 2-speed, using a White 16/19 on the back
 and two chainrings on the front with 3-teeth of difference, so I could have
 one rear wheel position.

 Right now my concept is a 35/38 in front with the 16/19 in back.  My two
 gears: 35x19 and 38x16 would be 50 and 64 with 27 diameter wheels
 (700x32).
 On a 110mm BCD, I could alternatively easily run a 36/39, a 39/42, a 40/43
 or a 42/45 in front without having to chase down any weird chainrings.
 On a 94mm BCD, I could run a 29/32 for offroady stuff.

 As a shifting maneuver, I'd loosen the right side bolt.  Stick-shift the
 chain from big-to-small and then from small-to-big.  Then tighten the right
 side bolt again and ride away.

 Anyway, by my numbers, spinning at 110RPM with a 27 diameter wheel is
 21mph, which is plenty fast for road cruising for me, especially when I can
 coast downhills.  I think I can handle the 50 gear up my hill as well.

 I wonder what others feel they need.  I know Patrick Moore zens out with a
 slow metronome cadence climbing with 70-something gear inches.  Who else
 thinks my two speeds are a bad idea?

 Bill Lindsay

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[RBW] FS: Phil/Mavic 26 front wheel plus more, $100 shipped ConUS

2014-03-13 Thread Elton Pope-Lance
Hi All,

I've no longer got any 26 bikes in the herd, so this has to go.
Low miles, exc. condition, includes rim tape, tube, and (x2) Conti 26x1.75 
Avenue SemiSlick tires.
Tires are essentially new.

Elton Pope-Lance
Natick, MA



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[RBW] Revo-lights

2014-03-13 Thread Derek Simmons
Anybody have any experience--good or bad--using Revo-lights? I've
recently relocated to a town that I'm sure could win a prize for the
darkest streets in America--if such a prize were given. I'm especially
interested if you ride on fat tires 35-38mm.
Thanks.

Derek Simmons

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[RBW] Re: Edelux - Blug Post

2014-03-13 Thread Bill Lindsay
Steve

Good catch.  The BLUG post was about the upside down Edelux.  The photo was 
an upside down Edelux, and the text of the post said Edelux.  The 
misdirection was that the LINK in the post took you to Edelux II.  I 
emailed Dave at Riv and he has fixed the LINK.  Now the LINK correctly 
takes the clicker to the upside down Edelux, which Riv sells for $170 with 
free shipping.  

Generally if you see an error like that in the BLUG, just email Dave and 
he'll fix it PDQ.  They don't want to misinform anybody.  

Bill Lindsay

On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 5:23:38 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:

  On Feb 14 the Blug featured a post about mounting the Edelux II headlight 
 to Mark's Rack.


  

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[RBW] Re: Riv-esque Bike shops in Portland?

2014-03-13 Thread Shawn Granton
Also worth checking out is A Better Cycle down on SE Division and 23rd, and 
if you like the cargo bikes, Splendid on SE Ivon and 4th.

Also worth noting is that several local bagmakers have storefronts, too. 
Not Carradice-y/Sackville-y, but not portland design works chump-swag-y 
either. I'm partial to North St, and Curtis is on SE 23rd just south of the 
Clinton bikeway. He's across the street from Beckel Canvas, whose display 
window is always worth a look-see. (Now if they made bike stuff...) Black 
Star Bags has a storefront on SE Hawthorne and 21st, right next to Coventry 
Cycle Works. And Blaq has a storefront on SE Division and 11th.

-Shawn

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RE: [RBW] Poll: What are your single speed gears?

2014-03-13 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
40 x 17 on my QB with Jack Brown 33s

From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Abelson
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 12:31 PM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] Poll: What are your single speed gears?


I run 40 x 16 on my Quickbeam with 700 x 35 tires.

Dan Abelson
On Mar 12, 2014 2:10 PM, Bill Lindsay 
tapebu...@gmail.commailto:tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
I have a build concept for a SimpleBeam kind of thing.  The steep hill I live 
on completely rules out a singlespeed for the uphill part, and rules out riding 
fixed for the downhill part.  Still, I notice that for my commute I use a 
particular small handful of gears.  It makes me think that it is plausible for 
me to build a 2-speed, using a White 16/19 on the back and two chainrings on 
the front with 3-teeth of difference, so I could have one rear wheel position.

Right now my concept is a 35/38 in front with the 16/19 in back.  My two gears: 
35x19 and 38x16 would be 50 and 64 with 27 diameter wheels (700x32).
On a 110mm BCD, I could alternatively easily run a 36/39, a 39/42, a 40/43 or a 
42/45 in front without having to chase down any weird chainrings.
On a 94mm BCD, I could run a 29/32 for offroady stuff.

As a shifting maneuver, I'd loosen the right side bolt.  Stick-shift the chain 
from big-to-small and then from small-to-big.  Then tighten the right side bolt 
again and ride away.

Anyway, by my numbers, spinning at 110RPM with a 27 diameter wheel is 21mph, 
which is plenty fast for road cruising for me, especially when I can coast 
downhills.  I think I can handle the 50 gear up my hill as well.

I wonder what others feel they need.  I know Patrick Moore zens out with a slow 
metronome cadence climbing with 70-something gear inches.  Who else thinks my 
two speeds are a bad idea?

Bill Lindsay

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Re: [RBW] Poll: What are your single speed gears?

2014-03-13 Thread Bill Lindsay
Thanks Tom and Dan.  It's pretty much unanimous.  Somewhere in the mid 60s 
is a good thing to try for my normal gear.  My climbing gear depends on 
what I can push.  For sure this 38/35 and 16/19 will be my first shot at 
it.  

On Thursday, March 13, 2014 10:39:39 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote:

  40 x 17 on my QB with Jack Brown 33s




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[RBW] Re: New 53 Bleriot frameset!

2014-03-13 Thread Michael


 It arrived today.

Pretty!
Weather report looks pretty good for the upcoming week, so I hope to take 
it outdoors and Boeshield it and get some pics to post.

Now I have to find a bike shop to build it.
If I lived in Walnut Creek, I'd just give it to them to build.

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Re: [RBW] Revo-lights

2014-03-13 Thread Eric Norris
I haven't used them, but I have seen a bike with revo lights, and they are 
certainly very visible and attention-getting. I see that they use rechargeable 
batteries, so run time might be an issue. 

–Eric N
Sent from my iPhone 5S

 On Mar 13, 2014, at 10:02 AM, Derek Simmons retiredinsancleme...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Anybody have any experience--good or bad--using Revo-lights? I've recently 
 relocated to a town that I'm sure could win a prize for the darkest streets 
 in America--if such a prize were given. I'm especially interested if you ride 
 on fat tires 35-38mm.
 Thanks. 
 
 Derek Simmons
 
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[RBW] OK, what is it? (zero dollar BLUG challenge)

2014-03-13 Thread Bill Lindsay


https://31.media.tumblr.com/0b9f39d77b0e78bd4301510d5142e856/tumblr_inline_n2b8srpYxS1rzz3f2.jpg
My guess is it's a rear brake bridge.  I think Riv likes chainstay caps way 
too much to ever use this.  Or, maybe I'm wrong what it is (but I'm pretty 
sure I'm not wrong)

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RE: [RBW] Re: Appaloosa Prototype on Blug?

2014-03-13 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Completely subjective response (and thus subject to skepticism if not 
dismissal), but my Riv Mystery Bike (a sort of pre-Appaloosa, pic here: 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8367710962/in/set-72157630957672582  
), which has 55cm chainstays, has the smoothest ride I've ever experienced, 
without sacrificing much if anything in sure-footedness or responsiveness, 
relative to my other Rivs without the long stays.  It's a wonderful bike.

-Original Message-
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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: Appaloosa Prototype on Blug?

Other than pannier clearance, what exactly are the benefits of the longer 
chainstays? 

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[RBW] Re: Grant's Overseas Trip - What do you want?

2014-03-13 Thread Scott G.


On Thursday, March 13, 2014 11:27:37 AM UTC-4, RJM wrote:

 I would like to see riv come out with a crankset.
  


How about the Sugino 801t?

http://www.suginoltd.co.jp/products/touring/mighty.html 

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[RBW] Re: OK, what is it? (zero dollar BLUG challenge)

2014-03-13 Thread Shoji Takahashi
I'm glad you brought this up-- and I'm intrigued by your guess. If Riv did 
try it, I guess they'd need to cast a new seat lug? 

It reminds me of the elephant bike biplane mono seat stay:
http://cyclingspokane.blogspot.com/2010/08/my-new-elephant.html



On Thursday, March 13, 2014 2:13:05 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:


 https://31.media.tumblr.com/0b9f39d77b0e78bd4301510d5142e856/tumblr_inline_n2b8srpYxS1rzz3f2.jpg
 My guess is it's a rear brake bridge.  I think Riv likes chainstay caps 
 way too much to ever use this.  Or, maybe I'm wrong what it is (but I'm 
 pretty sure I'm not wrong)


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Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's Overseas Trip - What do you want?

2014-03-13 Thread Steve Palincsar

On 03/13/2014 02:37 PM, Scott G. wrote:



On Thursday, March 13, 2014 11:27:37 AM UTC-4, RJM wrote:

I would like to see riv come out with a crankset.


How about the Sugino 801t?


Or the Mighty Mignon, for shorter riders.  Not many crank sets out there 
at 140-155mm lengths.


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[RBW] Re: Riv-esque Bike shops in Portland?

2014-03-13 Thread Lynne Fitz
Universal Cycles does indeed have a large showroom.  SE 22nd and E Burnside.  
They also have a rack INSIDE for you to park your bike.  No coffee, but Heart 
Coffee is right across Burnside.  They let me leave my bike there while I 
fetched coffee for my ride home, over the hills to the West.

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[RBW] Re: Riv-esque Bike shops in Portland?

2014-03-13 Thread Linkbeak
FWIW, all great shops, Coventry is pretty much focused on recumbents and 
folders but they are down to earth folks who were into great bikes before it 
was a 'lifestyle'.  The folks at Sellwood appreciate Rivs and are good at 
inventive solutions.  I am also a fan of Universal, where they in fact do have 
a huge showroom and employ several mechanics.  And they open at 6:00 am.  They 
can talk all kinds of bikes and have a huge inventory.

Joyce

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[RBW] FS: 58 Rambouillet Green complete bike - $1250 shipped - last bump and price drop

2014-03-13 Thread danmc
Last time before wrapping the bars and heading to eBay.


$50 off for local SF Bay Area sales. 

 Open to parting out if someone is interested in the frame or some group of 
 components.

 Thanks for looking!


 -


 After lots of pondering I have decided to offer up my green 2006 58cm
 Ram for sale.

 Need to thin the herd and prep for an unexpected arrival in 6.5 months
 or so. Not a bicycle arrival, either.

 It is a great bike. Nice but not perfect shape. Beausage but not too
 much. No dents. I bought the bike from the first owner - time to move
 it forward with a few upgrades.

 Some original and some new parts. I had just gotten into replacing the
 bar tape and brake levers when I made the decision so decided to leave
 the brake cables  bar wrap for the new owner to complete. I am
 including new brake cables/ black housing and a package of the natural
 cork tape from RBW to complete things. The brake housing run from the rear 
 TT
 stop to the rear brake is fine and recent so I am leaving that as is.

 Here are the build details:

 58 cm Rambouillet:

 Mavic Open Pro / Ultegra hubs
 Grand Bois Cypres 30 tires - recent
 Ultegra headset
 Origin 8 brake levers (Tektro R340) - new
 Tektro R539 brakes - recent
 Shimano 105 triple front Der
 Deore LX rear der
 Sugino triple crankset 48/36/26
 Shimano HG-61 11-34 cassette - recent
 Shimano 9-speed chain - recent
 Shimano 9-speed bar ends - indexes properly if you want to go that way.
 Nitto Noodles 46cm
 Nitto Technomic Deluxe stem  8cm
 Nitto 65 seatpost

 Not including the saddle, pedals/clips, or bottle cages.

  I am including an extra pair of new in package GB Cypres 30 tires. So 4 
 tires total.


 Link to some photos: https://www.dropbox.com/sc/3owvcanep0srgok/BC5eyQrHXk

 Let me know if there are problems accessing the images.

 Questions? Ask away.

 Dan

 -Marin / Berkeley


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[RBW] Re: Riv-esque Bike shops in Portland?

2014-03-13 Thread redsydude
The Universal Cycles store on Burnside has a showroom with Brooks, Nitto, 
Tekro, Sugino, ... and (based on the guy who helped me) 
excellent mechanic(s).  
On Thursday, March 13, 2014 7:37:11 AM UTC-7, iamkeith wrote:

 My Rambouillet was originally sold at Coventry Cycles when they were a 
 Rivendell Dealer, and I bought my All Rounder at Sellwood Cycles.  Both 
 great shops, both pre-date the current hipster culture, 
 bike-as-fashion-statement movement that some people associate with Portland 
 today.  Also, don't forget Universal Cycles as a last-option if you can't 
 find what you need in a real shop.   They don't have mechanics or a 
 showroom where you can browse, but you can order on their site for local 
 pick-up.  They have a pretty diverse inventory.



 On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 5:21:55 PM UTC-6, Skip Richmond wrote:

 Where are the box dog bikes of multnomah county?
 the american cyclerys of the river city?
 the hand-made leather-bound bridge-city bag n racks?

 i ain't talkin this portland design works chump-swag
 i'm talking the real deal, hand-hammered, nickel-plated good stuff.

 tired of relying on mail order from riv, let me know where i can pick up 
 an xd-2 and some brass ferrules.

 see you in the extra-wide bike lanes,
 skip



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[RBW] Re: Edelux - Blug Post

2014-03-13 Thread Lynne Fitz
I would just, for once, want to buy a light and not have to get all creative 
about how to mount it on my bike.  The Luxos U was the easiest; I bolt it to 
the front bolt of the Nitto rack.  Of course, I had to buy the Nitto rack, 
because it did not play at all well with the custom rack which originally came 
with the bike.

I do wish the lighting manufacturers used the standard bolt which fits into 
every accessory bolt hole on a bike.  Yes, of COURSE I have a T20 wrench which 
I carry on my bike.  Doesn't everyone? (solution - T20 bit which fits in my 
Topeak Rachet Rocket)

I wish the new Secula Plus Seatstay Light had the standard sized hole for the 
standard sized bolt, rather than having to ziptie it to my seatstay, which 
means when I dissassemble the bike for travel, things will get tricky.  No, 
couldn't just bolt it to the braze-on there for JUST THAT PURPOSE, like I can 
do with my Planet Bike blinkies.

I will say the Secula Plus tail light is amazing.  Just not really thought 
through for all the mounting possibilities.

Rant off.  Thank you for listening.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Edelux - Blug Post

2014-03-13 Thread Peter Morgano
+1 on that rant. Shouldn't have to buy a rack to make a light work.
On Mar 13, 2014 3:15 PM, Lynne Fitz fitzb...@comcast.net wrote:

 I would just, for once, want to buy a light and not have to get all
 creative about how to mount it on my bike.  The Luxos U was the easiest; I
 bolt it to the front bolt of the Nitto rack.  Of course, I had to buy the
 Nitto rack, because it did not play at all well with the custom rack which
 originally came with the bike.

 I do wish the lighting manufacturers used the standard bolt which fits
 into every accessory bolt hole on a bike.  Yes, of COURSE I have a T20
 wrench which I carry on my bike.  Doesn't everyone? (solution - T20 bit
 which fits in my Topeak Rachet Rocket)

 I wish the new Secula Plus Seatstay Light had the standard sized hole for
 the standard sized bolt, rather than having to ziptie it to my seatstay,
 which means when I dissassemble the bike for travel, things will get
 tricky.  No, couldn't just bolt it to the braze-on there for JUST THAT
 PURPOSE, like I can do with my Planet Bike blinkies.

 I will say the Secula Plus tail light is amazing.  Just not really thought
 through for all the mounting possibilities.

 Rant off.  Thank you for listening.

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[RBW] Thoughts on Rivendell rough cuts on YouTube

2014-03-13 Thread Chris Lampe 2
I just stumbled on a couple of documentary style compilations of interviews 
with some of the folks at RBW.  I haven't seen them mentioned here so I 
thought I would link them so folks could check them out.  
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TWVBU23VEU

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[RBW] Re: 62cm Quickbeam

2014-03-13 Thread Justin Schoop
Wondering if you are still trying to sell the QB?

On Sunday, February 16, 2014 8:51:57 PM UTC-5, mojo2396 wrote:

 long time lurker finally coming to the decision that the QB is hanging on 
 its hook too often as I ride my Riv custom 
 exclusively when not on a mtb. 

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/8476007@N03/616062553/

 King hs, TA cranks, Avid Tri Align canti, Nitto bars, post, stem and 
 cages, Brooks Champion Special.
 Suzue/Mavic wheels with White Industries fw 17t, Michelin 40mm tires.

 Thinking $1750 plus shipping OBO.






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[RBW] Re: OK, what is it? (zero dollar BLUG challenge)

2014-03-13 Thread Philip Williamson
Strawberry Cycles seatstay yoke.

Philip
www.biketinker.com

On Thursday, March 13, 2014 11:13:05 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:


 https://31.media.tumblr.com/0b9f39d77b0e78bd4301510d5142e856/tumblr_inline_n2b8srpYxS1rzz3f2.jpg
 My guess is it's a rear brake bridge.  I think Riv likes chainstay caps 
 way too much to ever use this.  Or, maybe I'm wrong what it is (but I'm 
 pretty sure I'm not wrong)


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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv-esque Bike shops in Portland?

2014-03-13 Thread Chris Chen
Basically I haven't encountered much gruff from any shop in Portland,
especially when dealing with their service/mechanical folks. It's like
rolling into a shop with a Riv tells the mechanics it's okay to talk about
unracy bikes.

The two closest shops to me are West End and Western Bike Works, and while
they're definitely mainstream shops, they carry all the parts, tools, and
fat tires you'd care to try.

cc


On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 8:49 AM, redsydude thaus...@q.com wrote:

 The Universal Cycles store on Burnside has a showroom with Brooks, Nitto,
 Tekro, Sugino, ... and (based on the guy who helped me)
 excellent mechanic(s).
 On Thursday, March 13, 2014 7:37:11 AM UTC-7, iamkeith wrote:

 My Rambouillet was originally sold at Coventry Cycles when they were a
 Rivendell Dealer, and I bought my All Rounder at Sellwood Cycles.  Both
 great shops, both pre-date the current hipster culture,
 bike-as-fashion-statement movement that some people associate with Portland
 today.  Also, don't forget Universal Cycles as a last-option if you can't
 find what you need in a real shop.   They don't have mechanics or a
 showroom where you can browse, but you can order on their site for local
 pick-up.  They have a pretty diverse inventory.



 On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 5:21:55 PM UTC-6, Skip Richmond wrote:

 Where are the box dog bikes of multnomah county?
 the american cyclerys of the river city?
 the hand-made leather-bound bridge-city bag n racks?

 i ain't talkin this portland design works chump-swag
 i'm talking the real deal, hand-hammered, nickel-plated good stuff.

 tired of relying on mail order from riv, let me know where i can pick up
 an xd-2 and some brass ferrules.

 see you in the extra-wide bike lanes,
 skip

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[RBW] Re: New Albion on SF CL?

2014-03-13 Thread Brewster Fong

On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 10:31:25 PM UTC-7, Evan Baird wrote:

 Overall not a bad looking build. I can't get into the mini-v brakes though.

 
Why not? when I had a cross bike with Campy ergo shifter and tried using a 
pair of NOS Suntour XC Pro canti brakes with it the results were 
awful.  Could never get them to work properly. I tried KS salmon pads, and 
adjusted it for what seemed like forever. All I got was brake squeal and/or 
shudder. Terrible.  
 
On advice of a friend, I put on a cheapie Tektro 926al mini-v brake in the 
front  and wham - it was like night and day! The brake stop perfectly with 
no squeal or shudder. And this was with the stock black pads that came with 
the brake. Also, had no problem working with the Campy ergo lever. 
 
Now, some could argue that what I really needed was a fork mounted brake 
cable hanger instead of the one that hanged off the top of the headset. 
That may be true, but at that time I didn't know about this hanger, so the 
mini-v was the solution. At about $20 (or less if you go on the internet), 
it was well worth the cost and far superior to the lousy Suntour canti 
brake. 
 
Of course, YMMVGood Luck! 

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[RBW] For Sale: Brand V Bar Tube.

2014-03-13 Thread Richard Rios
Two available Asking 55$ each shipped or 50$ in person.  Both in pretty 
much the same condition like new with some rub marks from cables.  Pictures 
available upon request PM me if interested.  I will be at the Redlands 
Strada Rossa Bike ride this Saturday :) ! If you are going to be there as 
well and are interested in the bags let me know, and I will bring them 
along for you to have a look see.

Thanks,
Richard

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RE: [RBW] Re: OK, what is it? (zero dollar BLUG challenge)

2014-03-13 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
C’mon, Philip, can’t you be a little more specific?

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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: OK, what is it? (zero dollar BLUG challenge)

Strawberry Cycles seatstay yoke.

Philip
www.biketinker.comhttp://www.biketinker.com

On Thursday, March 13, 2014 11:13:05 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:

[https://31.media.tumblr.com/0b9f39d77b0e78bd4301510d5142e856/tumblr_inline_n2b8srpYxS1rzz3f2.jpg]https://31.media.tumblr.com/0b9f39d77b0e78bd4301510d5142e856/tumblr_inline_n2b8srpYxS1rzz3f2.jpg
My guess is it's a rear brake bridge.  I think Riv likes chainstay caps way too 
much to ever use this.  Or, maybe I'm wrong what it is (but I'm pretty sure I'm 
not wrong)
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[RBW] Re: OK, what is it? (zero dollar BLUG challenge)

2014-03-13 Thread Ryan
Remember that fancy fixed gear mtn  Rivendell had at NAHBS (or some other 
handmade bicycle show)...bike was olive green with paler green 
accents? remember the fork crown on that bike?Just sayin
On Thursday, March 13, 2014 2:42:52 PM UTC-5, Philip Williamson wrote: 

 Strawberry Cycles seatstay yoke. 

 Philip
 www.biketinker.com

 On Thursday, March 13, 2014 11:13:05 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: 

  
 https://31.media.tumblr.com/0b9f39d77b0e78bd4301510d5142e856/tumblr_inline_n2b8srpYxS1rzz3f2.jpg
 My guess is it's a rear brake bridge.  I think Riv likes chainstay caps 
 way too much to ever use this.  Or, maybe I'm wrong what it is (but I'm 
 pretty sure I'm not wrong)



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[RBW] Fully Riv'd Santana Touring Tandem

2014-03-13 Thread William!
I've come to the painful realization that our tandem needs to go. The bike 
was lovingly restored by me and has seen many wonderful journeys. However, 
since our son was born the only time it sees any uses is when I use it to 
pick people up from the train station =(.

Look at the pictures first:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/57941256@N00/13133971214/in/set-72157642312563303

The frame is a late 80's or early 90's, beautifully fillet brazed Columbus 
tubing. Not sure what measurements are appropriate to give, but my wife and 
I are about 57 and 6 respectively. It has the original Araya 27 tandem 
wheels. The bike could be converted to 700c but the wheels have many miles 
left on them so I haven't bothered.

The cockpit features albatross bars, silver shifters and mountain style 
levers. Captain and stoker both get shellacked cork grips and Honey Brooks 
B-17's. On the rear I've got a stainless steel touring rack with a fancy 
Nigel Smythe trunk bag. This bike is equally ready to ride on an extended 
tour or a Sunday picnic in the park.

I'd like to get $*1,000* *as pictured*, though I'd consider selling without 
saddles, bags etc if you prefer. I've spent considerably more building it 
up and I suspect it might fetch more on Craigslist or Ebay, but given the 
sentimental value I would love to sell this bike to someone on-list. 

Located in Portland, Oregon. 

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Re: [RBW] Poll: What are your single speed gears?

2014-03-13 Thread ted
Absent a one speed w/ a bag of cogs and rings the best way to see what gear 
is right for you is taking carful note of what gear works on a geared bike. 
After that adjust for wheel size/roll out, do a bit of math and you should 
be real close. It seems to me that whats right depends tremendously on the 
rider and after that the surface (i.e. dirt vs pavement). Personally I go 
with abt a 70 or 72 inch gear on my Simple One (running Jack Brown tires).

On Thursday, March 13, 2014 10:42:12 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 Thanks Tom and Dan.  It's pretty much unanimous.  Somewhere in the mid 60s 
 is a good thing to try for my normal gear.  My climbing gear depends on 
 what I can push.  For sure this 38/35 and 16/19 will be my first shot at 
 it.  

 On Thursday, March 13, 2014 10:39:39 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote:

  40 x 17 on my QB with Jack Brown 33s




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[RBW] Re: Fully Riv'd Santana Touring Tandem

2014-03-13 Thread Bill Lindsay
That's an incredibly low price on a spectacular family tandem.  But please 
don't sell it!  Buy a burley solo trailer and go out all three of you. 
 Then, buy a Burley Piccolo when your son is a little bigger, then consider 
getting a kiddie crank so he can stoke for you.  Before you know it he'll 
be stoking for you without the kiddie crank!

I just finished that waiting game, and my son is now able to stoke for me 
on our Ibis tandem.  Let me know if you want a very inexpensive Burley Solo 
or Burley Piccolo, as my kids have both outgrown them.  :-)

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Thursday, March 13, 2014 2:13:57 PM UTC-7, William! wrote:

 I've come to the painful realization that our tandem needs to go. The bike 
 was lovingly restored by me and has seen many wonderful journeys. However, 
 since our son was born the only time it sees any uses is when I use it to 
 pick people up from the train station =(.

 Look at the pictures first:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/57941256@N00/13133971214/in/set-72157642312563303

 The frame is a late 80's or early 90's, beautifully fillet brazed Columbus 
 tubing. Not sure what measurements are appropriate to give, but my wife and 
 I are about 57 and 6 respectively. It has the original Araya 27 tandem 
 wheels. The bike could be converted to 700c but the wheels have many miles 
 left on them so I haven't bothered.

 The cockpit features albatross bars, silver shifters and mountain style 
 levers. Captain and stoker both get shellacked cork grips and Honey Brooks 
 B-17's. On the rear I've got a stainless steel touring rack with a fancy 
 Nigel Smythe trunk bag. This bike is equally ready to ride on an extended 
 tour or a Sunday picnic in the park.

 I'd like to get $*1,000* *as pictured*, though I'd consider selling 
 without saddles, bags etc if you prefer. I've spent considerably more 
 building it up and I suspect it might fetch more on Craigslist or Ebay, but 
 given the sentimental value I would love to sell this bike to someone 
 on-list. 

 Located in Portland, Oregon. 


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Re: [RBW] Poll: What are your single speed gears?

2014-03-13 Thread Lee Chae
I want to say (and could easily be wrong) that historically Schwinn geared
their single-speeds at 65 gear inches. So, I used that as the basis for all
of my single-speeds and now fixed gears. To paraphrase Ron Lau, good enough
for the newsboy, good enough for me!

Lee


On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 2:20 PM, ted ted.ke...@comcast.net wrote:

 Absent a one speed w/ a bag of cogs and rings the best way to see what
 gear is right for you is taking carful note of what gear works on a geared
 bike. After that adjust for wheel size/roll out, do a bit of math and you
 should be real close. It seems to me that whats right depends tremendously
 on the rider and after that the surface (i.e. dirt vs pavement). Personally
 I go with abt a 70 or 72 inch gear on my Simple One (running Jack Brown
 tires).


 On Thursday, March 13, 2014 10:42:12 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 Thanks Tom and Dan.  It's pretty much unanimous.  Somewhere in the mid
 60s is a good thing to try for my normal gear.  My climbing gear depends
 on what I can push.  For sure this 38/35 and 16/19 will be my first shot at
 it.

 On Thursday, March 13, 2014 10:39:39 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote:

  40 x 17 on my QB with Jack Brown 33s


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Re: [RBW] Re: Fully Riv'd Santana Touring Tandem

2014-03-13 Thread William Henderson
Thanks, Bill. It’s good advice but we just sprung for a long-tail bike to haul 
kiddo and selling the tandem was part of the deal =(.  

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Sent from my iPhone



On Thursday, March 13, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 That's an incredibly low price on a spectacular family tandem.  But please 
 don't sell it!  Buy a burley solo trailer and go out all three of you.  Then, 
 buy a Burley Piccolo when your son is a little bigger, then consider getting 
 a kiddie crank so he can stoke for you.  Before you know it he'll be stoking 
 for you without the kiddie crank!
  
 I just finished that waiting game, and my son is now able to stoke for me on 
 our Ibis tandem.  Let me know if you want a very inexpensive Burley Solo or 
 Burley Piccolo, as my kids have both outgrown them.  :-)
  
 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA
  
 On Thursday, March 13, 2014 2:13:57 PM UTC-7, William! wrote:
  I've come to the painful realization that our tandem needs to go. The bike 
  was lovingly restored by me and has seen many wonderful journeys. However, 
  since our son was born the only time it sees any uses is when I use it to 
  pick people up from the train station =(.
   
  Look at the pictures first:
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/57941256@N00/13133971214/in/set-72157642312563303
   
   
  The frame is a late 80's or early 90's, beautifully fillet brazed Columbus 
  tubing. Not sure what measurements are appropriate to give, but my wife and 
  I are about 57 and 6 respectively. It has the original Araya 27 tandem 
  wheels. The bike could be converted to 700c but the wheels have many miles 
  left on them so I haven't bothered.
   
  The cockpit features albatross bars, silver shifters and mountain style 
  levers. Captain and stoker both get shellacked cork grips and Honey Brooks 
  B-17's. On the rear I've got a stainless steel touring rack with a fancy 
  Nigel Smythe trunk bag. This bike is equally ready to ride on an extended 
  tour or a Sunday picnic in the park.
   
  I'd like to get $1,000 as pictured, though I'd consider selling without 
  saddles, bags etc if you prefer. I've spent considerably more building it 
  up and I suspect it might fetch more on Craigslist or Ebay, but given the 
  sentimental value I would love to sell this bike to someone on-list.  
   
  Located in Portland, Oregon.   
  
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Re: [RBW] Fully Riv'd Santana Touring Tandem

2014-03-13 Thread Steve Palincsar
All that thing needs is a child stoker kit, and you'll be good to go for 
the next dozen years.


On 03/13/2014 05:13 PM, William! wrote:
I've come to the painful realization that our tandem needs to go. The 
bike was lovingly restored by me and has seen many wonderful journeys. 
However, since our son was born the only time it sees any uses is when 
I use it to pick people up from the train station =(.


Look at the pictures first:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/57941256@N00/13133971214/in/set-72157642312563303

The frame is a late 80's or early 90's, beautifully fillet brazed 
Columbus tubing. Not sure what measurements are appropriate to give, 
but my wife and I are about 57 and 6 respectively. It has the 
original Araya 27 tandem wheels. The bike could be converted to 700c 
but the wheels have many miles left on them so I haven't bothered.


The cockpit features albatross bars, silver shifters and mountain 
style levers. Captain and stoker both get shellacked cork grips and 
Honey Brooks B-17's. On the rear I've got a stainless steel touring 
rack with a fancy Nigel Smythe trunk bag. This bike is equally ready 
to ride on an extended tour or a Sunday picnic in the park.


I'd like to get $*1,000* *as pictured*, though I'd consider selling 
without saddles, bags etc if you prefer. I've spent considerably more 
building it up and I suspect it might fetch more on Craigslist or 
Ebay, but given the sentimental value I would love to sell this bike 
to someone on-list.




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Re: [RBW] 650b Roadeo

2014-03-13 Thread ted
Though I can't imagine anybody taking you to task for not scraping off the 
decals, if you sold it through the mail to somebody who knows what a Ram is 
from reading about RBW without pointing out it's 650B converted state they 
might well object when they opened the box.

My view is that the is the Rodeo is RBW's quicker handling option for those 
who are happy with tires that fit under medium reach brakes. Such a thing 
could easily be 650b, particularly in the smaller sizes. But AHH geometry 
means AHH handling, and 38+mm tires means long reach or canti brakes. 
Neither of those are what a Rodeo is.

I think the bike some on this thread are talking about would be more easily 
expressed as an AHH with lighter gauge tubing.



On Thursday, March 13, 2014 8:32:08 AM UTC-7, ttoshi wrote:

 I don't know.  Is my 650b Ram a Ram? The additional tire width is 
 possible because the wheel is smaller and widest part of the tire is 
 where the frame is wider. However, even I don't think the Roadeo is a 
 good conversion candidate because the BB height is even lower than the 
 Ram.  However, I could really see the benefits of a lighter tubing 
 650b brevet bike.  The Ram with Hetres is a remarkably comfortable 
 ride, and a Roadeo-like 650b bike would be similar. My AHH with 
 Pari-Moto tires is very close to the 650b Ram, but the Ram with Hetres 
 feels even more stable and smooth... 

 Toshi 


 On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Anne Paulson 
 anne.p...@gmail.comjavascript: 
 wrote: 
  How is a 650B bike that takes 38mm tires a Roadeo? I'm not denigrating 
  the bike-- it sounds fine. But how would it be a Roadeo, which is 
  supposed to be more or less a road-only bike that takes (for 
  Rivendell) narrower tires? 


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RE: [RBW] Re: Appaloosa Prototype on Blug?

2014-03-13 Thread Kellie Stapleton
So will smaller frame sizes be 650b?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Edelux - Blug Post

2014-03-13 Thread Eric
I don't think I was being dramatic at all, only honest. 

For a $200 light  a $100+ dollar rack Riv is only suggesting some fancy 
jerry-rigging technique. I don't think that's realistic.

For that kinda coin I want the set up to:

1) Be secure
2) Not be obscured by bags/rack/ect
3) Be easy to mount

The more I deal with hassle the more I know there's an easier solution. I 
just want a rack w/ a dedicated mount  wire guides, no fuss  no ugly zip 
ties on my nice frame. 

On Thursday, March 13, 2014 12:49:57 AM UTC-5, Christopher Chen wrote:

 a bit dramatic aren't we
 On Mar 12, 2014 8:29 PM, Eric ericwo...@gmail.com javascript: wrote:

 Mounting this light to my old touring bike and Homer Hilsen was often 
 been the bane of my existence and I gave it up.

 The only time I will mount this light again is when my new custom tourer 
 has a DEDICATED light mount constructed on the custom front rack. 

 No more jerry-rigging for me too much of pain. I was able to mount the 
 light on my Mark's Rack but it was such a pain (secret: it involved a 
 Pitlock skewer to prevent theft) and it looked awful too. 

 Why doesn't Riv just have Nitto fashion a light mount onto the racks they 
 offer? 

 It's a $200 light! I'm sure Nitto can weld on a simple solution. 


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[RBW] Re: Edelux - Blug Post

2014-03-13 Thread Eric
You're correct but the Nitto racks are nickle plated so it's not that easy 
at least to the builders I spoke too (Ahearne  others). 

On Thursday, March 13, 2014 1:19:40 AM UTC-5, Scot Brooks wrote:

 The good news is that any fabrication shop can whip up a light mount and 
 weld it on to a chromoly or stainless rack no sweat. 

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[RBW] Re: Riv-esque Bike shops in Portland?

2014-03-13 Thread Lesli Larson
How about Clever Cycles or City Bikes?  Velo Cult too.
 

Lesli Larson
Eugene, OR

On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 4:21:55 PM UTC-7, Skip Richmond wrote:

 Where are the box dog bikes of multnomah county?
 the american cyclerys of the river city?
 the hand-made leather-bound bridge-city bag n racks?

 i ain't talkin this portland design works chump-swag
 i'm talking the real deal, hand-hammered, nickel-plated good stuff.

 tired of relying on mail order from riv, let me know where i can pick up 
 an xd-2 and some brass ferrules.

 see you in the extra-wide bike lanes,
 skip


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[RBW] Re: Edelux - Blug Post

2014-03-13 Thread Scot Brooks
Hi Eric,
We mess around with modifying Nitto racks kind of a lot at the shop I 
occasionally work at, mostly for the purpose of dialing in the fitment or 
getting things super level. It's way easy, or at least for the guys who do 
the actual welding and brazing (not me). Moot point really, since I guess 
it's not exactly an easy solution from the standpoint of a customer 
buying a fancy rack, spending more money to have it modified, and then more 
money to have it painted or powdercoated. 

On Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:29:34 PM UTC-7, Eric wrote:

 You're correct but the Nitto racks are nickle plated so it's not that easy 
 at least to the builders I spoke too (Ahearne  others). 

 On Thursday, March 13, 2014 1:19:40 AM UTC-5, Scot Brooks wrote:

 The good news is that any fabrication shop can whip up a light mount and 
 weld it on to a chromoly or stainless rack no sweat. 



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Re: [RBW] Re: Edelux - Blug Post

2014-03-13 Thread Jan Heine
I agree with the rant – it shouldn't be that hard to use your bike at night.

There actually are standards for lights. For example, all the German lights 
use an M6 bolt, and the bases are the same width. They mount to standard 
brackets that go on the fork crown. The bracket sandwiches the light, so 
you can adjust the light's angle by hand without loosening the bolt. As 
long as you use canti, V-brakes or discs, the fork crown is wide open. The 
rear light goes on the rear fender. Whether these are the best locations is 
a different matter, but if you have a German city bike and want to switch 
from a IQ Cyo to an Edelux, it's a simple swap.

It's the same with derailleurs on our bikes. Yes, putting the derailleur on 
the outside of the rear dropout isn't ideal – the hanger tends to bend when 
the bike falls over – but they all are the same, and switching from Shimano 
to Campy is a snap today, unlike in the old days when Campy, Huret and 
Simplex each had their own dropouts with different derailleur hangers.

We run into problems if our bikes aren't designed for derailleurs or 
lights. Then we have to get creative. And the results are often 
sub-optimal. Just like with cars, where the add-on fog lights tend to fall 
off, rotate or have unintended consequences (engines overheating because 
the lights block the radiator). The headlights that come with the car 
rarely have any issues...

The beauty of a bike that is designed from the onset for lights is that you 
don't have to think about them. If they are well-designed, they are just 
there, ready to be switched on when you need them.

Jan Heine
Editor
Bicycle Quarterly
2116 Western Ave.
Seattle WA 98121
http://www.bikequarterly.com

Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/



On Thursday, March 13, 2014 12:20:52 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:

 +1 on that rant. Shouldn't have to buy a rack to make a light work.


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[RBW] WTB: 62-64 Quickbeam

2014-03-13 Thread Justin Schoop
As the subject states, I am hoping to find/purchase a 62-64cm Quickbeam. Please 
feel free to email me. Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: Grant's Overseas Trip - What do you want?

2014-03-13 Thread hsmitham
I'd like to see the Sugino cranks offered with a black or hard anodizing. 
Next I'd like to see the big front rack with a small tomb stone to 
accommodate a rando bag. Yes I'm aware of the other version Campee rack 
with detachable low riders but the top rack isn't as sturdy 
and detachable parts have a way of being misplaced and I'm lazy and don't 
want to take them on  off. My 2 cents.

~Hugh

On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 1:53:30 PM UTC-7, Larry H wrote:

 So what cool bike parts does everyone want Grant to bring back from 
 Japan/Taiwan/wherever else he was going?


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[RBW] Re: 62cm Quickbeam

2014-03-13 Thread mojo2396
Still available...


On Sunday, February 16, 2014 7:51:57 PM UTC-6, mojo2396 wrote:

 long time lurker finally coming to the decision that the QB is hanging on 
 its hook too often as I ride my Riv custom 
 exclusively when not on a mtb. 

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/8476007@N03/616062553/

 King hs, TA cranks, Avid Tri Align canti, Nitto bars, post, stem and 
 cages, Brooks Champion Special.
 Suzue/Mavic wheels with White Industries fw 17t, Michelin 40mm tires.

 Thinking $1750 plus shipping OBO.






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[RBW] Re: OK, what is it? (zero dollar BLUG challenge)

2014-03-13 Thread Frank Brose
Here it is. Maybe.


On Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:42:07 PM UTC-5, Ryan wrote:

 Remember that fancy fixed gear mtn  Rivendell had at NAHBS (or some other 
 handmade bicycle show)...bike was olive green with paler green 
 accents? remember the fork crown on that bike?Just sayin
 On Thursday, March 13, 2014 2:42:52 PM UTC-5, Philip Williamson wrote: 

 Strawberry Cycles seatstay yoke. 

 Philip
 www.biketinker.com

 On Thursday, March 13, 2014 11:13:05 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: 

  
 https://31.media.tumblr.com/0b9f39d77b0e78bd4301510d5142e856/tumblr_inline_n2b8srpYxS1rzz3f2.jpg
 My guess is it's a rear brake bridge.  I think Riv likes chainstay caps 
 way too much to ever use this.  Or, maybe I'm wrong what it is (but I'm 
 pretty sure I'm not wrong)



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Re: [RBW] OK, what is it? (zero dollar BLUG challenge)

2014-03-13 Thread James Warren
It's a weapon that Gimli found and coveted when trekking through the mines of Moria.-Original Message-
From: Bill Lindsay 
Sent: Mar 13, 2014 11:13 AM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] OK, what is it?  (zero dollar BLUG challenge)

My guess is it's a rear brake bridge. I think Riv likes chainstay caps way too much to ever use this. Or, maybe I'm wrong what it is (but I'm pretty sure I'm not wrong)



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Re: [RBW] Poll: What are your single speed gears?

2014-03-13 Thread djbardwil
ted's advise is sound and it helped formed the basis of my choice on my 
new-to-me 50cm Mini-beam.  I rode my 650b Sam in the 46/18 combination 
without shifting on my regular route and settled around 66 as a good all 
around gearing.  I ultimately chose a 46t Sugino RD crank with an 18t White 
freewheel on one side, with a 19t fixed gear on the other.  Not having much 
experience with a fixed gear, an easier 62 gearing is what I felt 
comfortable with at this time.



On Thursday, March 13, 2014 5:34:34 PM UTC-4, Lee Chae wrote:

 I want to say (and could easily be wrong) that historically Schwinn geared 
 their single-speeds at 65 gear inches. So, I used that as the basis for all 
 of my single-speeds and now fixed gears. To paraphrase Ron Lau, good enough 
 for the newsboy, good enough for me!

 Lee


 On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 2:20 PM, ted ted@comcast.net javascript:wrote:

 Absent a one speed w/ a bag of cogs and rings the best way to see what 
 gear is right for you is taking carful note of what gear works on a geared 
 bike. After that adjust for wheel size/roll out, do a bit of math and you 
 should be real close. It seems to me that whats right depends tremendously 
 on the rider and after that the surface (i.e. dirt vs pavement). Personally 
 I go with abt a 70 or 72 inch gear on my Simple One (running Jack Brown 
 tires).


 On Thursday, March 13, 2014 10:42:12 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 Thanks Tom and Dan.  It's pretty much unanimous.  Somewhere in the mid 
 60s is a good thing to try for my normal gear.  My climbing gear depends 
 on what I can push.  For sure this 38/35 and 16/19 will be my first shot at 
 it.  

 On Thursday, March 13, 2014 10:39:39 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote:

  40 x 17 on my QB with Jack Brown 33s


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[RBW] WTB:56cm Altantis or 57 AllRounder

2014-03-13 Thread bo richardson
56 green Rambouillet with a fresh build?

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[RBW] Re: New Albion on SF CL?

2014-03-13 Thread Evan Baird
I'm sure they work fine, they just don't suit my aesthetic sensibilities. 
The Pauls on the other hand I will happily take as long as I don't have to 
pay.

On Thursday, March 13, 2014 12:45:35 PM UTC-7, Brewster Fong wrote:


 On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 10:31:25 PM UTC-7, Evan Baird wrote:

 Overall not a bad looking build. I can't get into the mini-v brakes 
 though.

  
 Why not? when I had a cross bike with Campy ergo shifter and tried using a 
 pair of NOS Suntour XC Pro canti brakes with it the results were 
 awful.  Could never get them to work properly. I tried KS salmon pads, and 
 adjusted it for what seemed like forever. All I got was brake squeal and/or 
 shudder. Terrible.  
  
 On advice of a friend, I put on a cheapie Tektro 926al mini-v brake in the 
 front  and wham - it was like night and day! The brake stop perfectly with 
 no squeal or shudder. And this was with the stock black pads that came with 
 the brake. Also, had no problem working with the Campy ergo lever. 
  
 Now, some could argue that what I really needed was a fork mounted brake 
 cable hanger instead of the one that hanged off the top of the headset. 
 That may be true, but at that time I didn't know about this hanger, so the 
 mini-v was the solution. At about $20 (or less if you go on the internet), 
 it was well worth the cost and far superior to the lousy Suntour canti 
 brake. 
  
 Of course, YMMVGood Luck! 


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[RBW] Re: FS: 58 Rambouillet Green complete bike - $1400 shipped - bump and price drop

2014-03-13 Thread allenmichael
Please give me a call. I'm in SF, and this may be too good to pass up. I 
have an orange 58 that I love. This could be a backup?

Michael Allen
415 288 4848

On Monday, February 10, 2014 11:08:30 AM UTC-8, danmc wrote:

 Some tire kicking but nothing solid so far. 


 $50 off for local SF Bay Area sales. 

 Open to parting out if someone is interested in the frame or some group of 
 components.

 Thanks for looking!


 -


 After lots of pondering I have decided to offer up my green 2006 58cm
 Ram for sale.

 Need to thin the herd and prep for an unexpected arrival in 6.5 months
 or so. Not a bicycle arrival, either.

 It is a great bike. Nice but not perfect shape. Beausage but not too
 much. No dents. I bought the bike from the first owner - time to move
 it forward with a few upgrades.

 Some original and some new parts. I had just gotten into replacing the
 bar tape and brake levers when I made the decision so decided to leave
 the brake cables  bar wrap for the new owner to complete. I am
 including new brake cables/ black housing and a package of the natural
 cork tape from RBW to complete things. The brake housing run from the rear 
 TT
 stop to the rear brake is fine and recent so I am leaving that as is.

 Here are the build details:

 58 cm Rambouillet:

 Mavic Open Pro / Ultegra hubs
 Grand Bois Cypres 30 tires - recent
 Ultegra headset
 Origin 8 brake levers (Tektro R340) - new
 Tektro R539 brakes - recent
 Shimano 105 triple front Der
 Deore LX rear der
 Sugino triple crankset 48/36/26
 Shimano HG-61 11-34 cassette - recent
 Shimano 9-speed chain - recent
 Shimano 9-speed bar ends - indexes properly if you want to go that way.
 Nitto Noodles 46cm
 Nitto Technomic Deluxe stem  8cm
 Nitto 65 seatpost

 Not including the saddle, pedals/clips, or bottle cages.

  I am including an extra pair of new in package GB Cypres 30 tires. So 4 
 tires total.


 Link to some photos: https://www.dropbox.com/sc/3owvcanep0srgok/BC5eyQrHXk

 Let me know if there are problems accessing the images.

 Questions? Ask away.

 Dan

 -Marin / Berkeley


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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 58 Rambouillet Green complete bike - $1400 shipped - bump and price drop

2014-03-13 Thread Dan McNamara
I'll try to call you this evening. If not I'll get you tomorrow.

Thanks

Dan


On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 5:24 PM, allenmichael allenmich...@mac.com wrote:

 Please give me a call. I'm in SF, and this may be too good to pass up. I
 have an orange 58 that I love. This could be a backup?

 Michael Allen
 415 288 4848


 On Monday, February 10, 2014 11:08:30 AM UTC-8, danmc wrote:

 Some tire kicking but nothing solid so far.


 $50 off for local SF Bay Area sales.

 Open to parting out if someone is interested in the frame or some group
 of components.

 Thanks for looking!


 -


 After lots of pondering I have decided to offer up my green 2006 58cm
 Ram for sale.

 Need to thin the herd and prep for an unexpected arrival in 6.5 months
 or so. Not a bicycle arrival, either.

 It is a great bike. Nice but not perfect shape. Beausage but not too
 much. No dents. I bought the bike from the first owner - time to move
 it forward with a few upgrades.

 Some original and some new parts. I had just gotten into replacing the
 bar tape and brake levers when I made the decision so decided to leave
 the brake cables  bar wrap for the new owner to complete. I am
 including new brake cables/ black housing and a package of the natural
 cork tape from RBW to complete things. The brake housing run from the
 rear TT
 stop to the rear brake is fine and recent so I am leaving that as is.

 Here are the build details:

 58 cm Rambouillet:

 Mavic Open Pro / Ultegra hubs
 Grand Bois Cypres 30 tires - recent
 Ultegra headset
 Origin 8 brake levers (Tektro R340) - new
 Tektro R539 brakes - recent
 Shimano 105 triple front Der
 Deore LX rear der
 Sugino triple crankset 48/36/26
 Shimano HG-61 11-34 cassette - recent
 Shimano 9-speed chain - recent
 Shimano 9-speed bar ends - indexes properly if you want to go that way.
 Nitto Noodles 46cm
 Nitto Technomic Deluxe stem  8cm
 Nitto 65 seatpost

 Not including the saddle, pedals/clips, or bottle cages.

  I am including an extra pair of new in package GB Cypres 30 tires. So 4
 tires total.


 Link to some photos: https://www.dropbox.com/sc/
 3owvcanep0srgok/BC5eyQrHXk

 Let me know if there are problems accessing the images.

 Questions? Ask away.

 Dan

 -Marin / Berkeley

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Re: [RBW] Re: Appaloosa Prototype on Blug?

2014-03-13 Thread cyclotourist
Are the seat tubes slacker to go with the longer stays? It sorta looks like
that on the prototype, but can't really tell.

Cheers,
David

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On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Kellie Stapleton 
kellie.staple...@gmail.com wrote:

 So will smaller frame sizes be 650b?

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[RBW] A new Riv?

2014-03-13 Thread Christopher Murray
On the recent blug post there is a bike frame with the caption At one assembly 
factory, this General Fatigue test. Is it a Rivendell? A new model? QB/SO? The 
lugs do look like a Riv. Maybe just something built for testing? Maybe the 
cheap commuter bike that has been mentioned? 

Sorry but I don't know how to add pictures to this post from my phone. Here is 
the link:

http://rivbike.tumblr.com

I'd guess a run of SOs- though would be surprising after selling the last batch 
at a discount. 

Cheers! 
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Re: [RBW] 650b Roadeo

2014-03-13 Thread Leslie
But, the only thing done to make a Ram into a 650b was to change calipers. The 
frame was in modified.  Raise the pads in the calipers, or swap back, and it's 
back to 700c.   If Toshi or I were going to sell one of our Rams complete, 
as-is, I'd be sure to point that out;  but could switch it, or, if fork/frame, 
wouldn't matter

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[RBW] Re: A new Riv?

2014-03-13 Thread Bill Lindsay
I think that was more just and interesting photo.  I don't think that's a 
Rivendell frame.  

More importantly, check out Will's Hillborne on the BLUG.  That's my 
favorite build in a while.  I saw a big Hillborne with Paul Racers at the 
Bikebookhatchet store last weekend and it was freaking perfect.  It might 
have been Will's bike.  I was stunned.  

On Thursday, March 13, 2014 6:45:17 PM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote:

 On the recent blug post there is a bike frame with the caption At one 
 assembly factory, this General Fatigue test. Is it a Rivendell? A new 
 model? QB/SO? The lugs do look like a Riv. Maybe just something built for 
 testing? Maybe the cheap commuter bike that has been mentioned? 

 Sorry but I don't know how to add pictures to this post from my phone. 
 Here is the link:

 http://rivbike.tumblr.com

 I'd guess a run of SOs- though would be surprising after selling the last 
 batch at a discount. 

 Cheers! 
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Re: [RBW] Fully Riv'd Santana Touring Tandem

2014-03-13 Thread Tony DeFilippo
If my Burley Bossa Nova tandem project turns out even half as good looking 
as your Santana I'll be thrilled.  I hope you find a grateful home for that 
sweet looking tandem!  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Edelux - Blug Post

2014-03-13 Thread Shoji Takahashi
I agree with the rant, but:
the Nitto Mini and the Mark's rack both have tabs on the front on which one 
can affix a fork-mount light. 

It's pictured on the Riv page for the Luxos U Dyno light (2nd, 3rd, 4th 
pics): http://www.rivbike.com/Busch-and-Muller-Luxos-U-Headlight-p/ltd-11.htm
(I think some light aficionados have said that one should only mount 
German-made lights to the fork crown position, because that's how they're 
designed!)

If you'd like to mount the light to the side struts... you're on your own. 
But there seem to-be quite a few options for after market light 
arms/brackets, and Edelux even comes in upside-down mount. 

You could always go custom.


On Thursday, March 13, 2014 6:46:32 PM UTC-4, Jan Heine wrote:

 I agree with the rant – it shouldn't be that hard to use your bike at 
 night.

 There actually are standards for lights. For example, all the German 
 lights use an M6 bolt, and the bases are the same width. They mount to 
 standard brackets that go on the fork crown. The bracket sandwiches the 
 light, so you can adjust the light's angle by hand without loosening the 
 bolt. As long as you use canti, V-brakes or discs, the fork crown is wide 
 open. The rear light goes on the rear fender. Whether these are the best 
 locations is a different matter, but if you have a German city bike and 
 want to switch from a IQ Cyo to an Edelux, it's a simple swap.

 It's the same with derailleurs on our bikes. Yes, putting the derailleur 
 on the outside of the rear dropout isn't ideal – the hanger tends to bend 
 when the bike falls over – but they all are the same, and switching from 
 Shimano to Campy is a snap today, unlike in the old days when Campy, Huret 
 and Simplex each had their own dropouts with different derailleur hangers.

 We run into problems if our bikes aren't designed for derailleurs or 
 lights. Then we have to get creative. And the results are often 
 sub-optimal. Just like with cars, where the add-on fog lights tend to fall 
 off, rotate or have unintended consequences (engines overheating because 
 the lights block the radiator). The headlights that come with the car 
 rarely have any issues...

 The beauty of a bike that is designed from the onset for lights is that 
 you don't have to think about them. If they are well-designed, they are 
 just there, ready to be switched on when you need them.

 Jan Heine
 Editor
 Bicycle Quarterly
 2116 Western Ave.
 Seattle WA 98121
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 Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/



 On Thursday, March 13, 2014 12:20:52 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:

 +1 on that rant. Shouldn't have to buy a rack to make a light work.



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[RBW] For Sale: Brand V Bar Tube.

2014-03-13 Thread Pondero
Can't justify another one now, but to support your sale I'll say I have one and 
love it.  I don't even use it all the time.  When I do use it occasionally, 
however, it's just perfect.  Well made and easy on/off.

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[RBW] Re: New 53 Bleriot frameset!

2014-03-13 Thread Mattt
Michael,

Built it yourself.  The only part to farm out is the headset.  You will 
learn much in the process and very gratifying.  I used Parks Blue Book and 
was able to do it with this instruction.

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RE: [RBW] Re: OK, what is it? (zero dollar BLUG challenge)

2014-03-13 Thread Philip Williamson
I guess I could: 
http://brimages.bikeboardmedia.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Strawberry-Seatstay-Lug-Painted.jpg

Philip
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RE: [RBW] Re: OK, what is it? (zero dollar BLUG challenge)

2014-03-13 Thread Peter Morgano
But how many grams does it add!??  ;-)
On Mar 13, 2014 10:47 PM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com
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[RBW] Re: New 53 Bleriot frameset!

2014-03-13 Thread Joe Bernard
I'm afraid I'm going to argue contrary advice here. I wouldn't choose a 
new, unmarked frame as my first build. My preference would be to learn 
build skills on a cheaper pre-scratched Craigslist bike, then attack a new 
one once I'd been through all the novice mistakes.

Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

On Thursday, March 13, 2014 7:35:40 PM UTC-7, Mattt wrote:

 Michael,

 Built it yourself.  The only part to farm out is the headset.  You will 
 learn much in the process and very gratifying.  I used Parks Blue Book and 
 was able to do it with this instruction.

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Re: [RBW] Re: New 53 Bleriot frameset!

2014-03-13 Thread Peter Morgano
If you have a shop you can trust and the money to spend I say give it to
the pros. I love to work on my own bikes but I know it's not for everyone.
On Mar 13, 2014 11:09 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm afraid I'm going to argue contrary advice here. I wouldn't choose a
 new, unmarked frame as my first build. My preference would be to learn
 build skills on a cheaper pre-scratched Craigslist bike, then attack a new
 one once I'd been through all the novice mistakes.

 Joe Bernard
 Vallejo, CA.

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 Michael,

 Built it yourself.  The only part to farm out is the headset.  You will
 learn much in the process and very gratifying.  I used Parks Blue Book and
 was able to do it with this instruction.

 Matt


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[RBW] Re: A new Riv?

2014-03-13 Thread Joe Bernard
That sage green Sam sure is pretty, ain't it? Will has some really neat 
bikes. Check the one with the behind-the-seatube front derailer shifter!

Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

On Thursday, March 13, 2014 6:51:29 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 I think that was more just and interesting photo.  I don't think that's a 
 Rivendell frame.  

 More importantly, check out Will's Hillborne on the BLUG.  That's my 
 favorite build in a while.  I saw a big Hillborne with Paul Racers at the 
 Bikebookhatchet store last weekend and it was freaking perfect.  It might 
 have been Will's bike.  I was stunned.  

 On Thursday, March 13, 2014 6:45:17 PM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote:

 On the recent blug post there is a bike frame with the caption At one 
 assembly factory, this General Fatigue test. Is it a Rivendell? A new 
 model? QB/SO? The lugs do look like a Riv. Maybe just something built for 
 testing? Maybe the cheap commuter bike that has been mentioned? 

 Sorry but I don't know how to add pictures to this post from my phone. 
 Here is the link:

 http://rivbike.tumblr.com

 I'd guess a run of SOs- though would be surprising after selling the last 
 batch at a discount. 

 Cheers! 
 Chris



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[RBW] Rivendell Employee Film?

2014-03-13 Thread Addison Wilhite
Hey all,
Months back there was a film that profiled many of the employees at Riv.
 Can anybody point me to the link?  I can't seem to find it.

Thanks!

Addison Wilhite, M.A.

Academy of Arts, Careers and
Technologyhttp://www.washoecountyschools.org/aact/


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[RBW] rack eyelet - bolt size?

2014-03-13 Thread Jim Bronson
Don't mean to be dense but what is the bolt size needed for the eyelets
that you connect a rack to that are near the rear dropouts?  And can these
be obtained at say Home Depot?

I know the head is either 4mm or 5mm, but that doesn't help with the thread
size.  Or does it?

Basically, I just need some bolts to hook up this R-14 that I got from this
list.  I have the stock Rivendell bolts on the seat stays above the brakes,
and I will use those, but I need to know what to get for the eyelets.

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Re: [RBW] rack eyelet - bolt size?

2014-03-13 Thread Peter Morgano
M5x20 if I am not too tired for my brain to work.
On Mar 13, 2014 11:31 PM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote:

 Don't mean to be dense but what is the bolt size needed for the eyelets
 that you connect a rack to that are near the rear dropouts?  And can these
 be obtained at say Home Depot?

 I know the head is either 4mm or 5mm, but that doesn't help with the
 thread size.  Or does it?

 Basically, I just need some bolts to hook up this R-14 that I got from
 this list.  I have the stock Rivendell bolts on the seat stays above the
 brakes, and I will use those, but I need to know what to get for the
 eyelets.

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Employee Film?

2014-03-13 Thread Bill Lindsay
This should be the one you are thinking of:

Rivendell People http://vimeo.com/57271334

On Thursday, March 13, 2014 8:14:14 PM UTC-7, Addison wrote:

 Hey all, 
 Months back there was a film that profiled many of the employees at Riv. 
  Can anybody point me to the link?  I can't seem to find it.

 Thanks!

 Addison Wilhite, M.A. 

 Academy of Arts, Careers and 
 Technologyhttp://www.washoecountyschools.org/aact/
  

 *“Blazing the Trail to College and Career Success”*

 Educator: Professional Portfolio http://addisonwilhite.blogspot.com/

 Blogger: Reno Rambler http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/ 

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Re: [RBW] rack eyelet - bolt size?

2014-03-13 Thread John Blish
Jim,

You can often find them at Home Depot.  In Twin Cities I have found a
better selection of that kind of hardware at Lowes.

-jb


On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 10:30 PM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote:

 Don't mean to be dense but what is the bolt size needed for the eyelets
 that you connect a rack to that are near the rear dropouts?  And can these
 be obtained at say Home Depot?

 I know the head is either 4mm or 5mm, but that doesn't help with the
 thread size.  Or does it?

 Basically, I just need some bolts to hook up this R-14 that I got from
 this list.  I have the stock Rivendell bolts on the seat stays above the
 brakes, and I will use those, but I need to know what to get for the
 eyelets.

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[RBW] Re: rack eyelet - bolt size?

2014-03-13 Thread dougP
Another good source is Ace Hardware.  I get stainless to avoid rust.  

dougP

On Thursday, March 13, 2014 8:30:32 PM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote:

 Don't mean to be dense but what is the bolt size needed for the eyelets 
 that you connect a rack to that are near the rear dropouts?  And can these 
 be obtained at say Home Depot?

 I know the head is either 4mm or 5mm, but that doesn't help with the 
 thread size.  Or does it?  

 Basically, I just need some bolts to hook up this R-14 that I got from 
 this list.  I have the stock Rivendell bolts on the seat stays above the 
 brakes, and I will use those, but I need to know what to get for the 
 eyelets.

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[RBW] Re: Grant's Overseas Trip - What do you want?

2014-03-13 Thread Brewster Fong


On Thursday, March 13, 2014 4:24:14 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 I'd like to see the Sugino cranks offered with a black or hard anodizing. 


But Sugino cranks can be found in black! Here's the Alpine 800d in black:

https://www.benscycle.com/p-909-sugino-alpina-800d-crankset.aspx?

Unfortunately, those cranks will only take an Octalink bbGood Luck! 



 

 Next I'd like to see the big front rack with a small tomb stone to 
 accommodate a rando bag. Yes I'm aware of the other version Campee rack 
 with detachable low riders but the top rack isn't as sturdy 
 and detachable parts have a way of being misplaced and I'm lazy and don't 
 want to take them on  off. My 2 cents.

 ~Hugh

 On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 1:53:30 PM UTC-7, Larry H wrote:

 So what cool bike parts does everyone want Grant to bring back from 
 Japan/Taiwan/wherever else he was going?



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[RBW] Re: New 53 Bleriot frameset!

2014-03-13 Thread IanA
Joe gives good advice here.  Personally, I feel confident in my 
bike-building ability, but I've built a few and have access to shop tools. 
 Working at home with only a few tools and for the first time is definitely 
not the best approach on a pristine frame.

Ian A/Canada.

On Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:09:55 PM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote:

 I'm afraid I'm going to argue contrary advice here. I wouldn't choose a 
 new, unmarked frame as my first build. My preference would be to learn 
 build skills on a cheaper pre-scratched Craigslist bike, then attack a new 
 one once I'd been through all the novice mistakes.

 Joe Bernard
 Vallejo, CA.

 On Thursday, March 13, 2014 7:35:40 PM UTC-7, Mattt wrote:

 Michael,

 Built it yourself.  The only part to farm out is the headset.  You will 
 learn much in the process and very gratifying.  I used Parks Blue Book and 
 was able to do it with this instruction.

 Matt




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Re: [RBW] Re: New 53 Bleriot frameset!

2014-03-13 Thread cyclotourist
I saw go for it and build it up at home! Get your favorite shop to install
the headset, the rest is a great way to really become attached to your bike
and learn how it all works together. No advance calculus degree required.
And it's a great excuse to buy that inch/pound torque wrench you've always
wanted!

Cheers,
David

it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 9:54 PM, IanA attew...@gmail.com wrote:

 Joe gives good advice here.  Personally, I feel confident in my
 bike-building ability, but I've built a few and have access to shop tools.
  Working at home with only a few tools and for the first time is definitely
 not the best approach on a pristine frame.

 Ian A/Canada.


 On Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:09:55 PM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote:

 I'm afraid I'm going to argue contrary advice here. I wouldn't choose a
 new, unmarked frame as my first build. My preference would be to learn
 build skills on a cheaper pre-scratched Craigslist bike, then attack a new
 one once I'd been through all the novice mistakes.

 Joe Bernard
 Vallejo, CA.

 On Thursday, March 13, 2014 7:35:40 PM UTC-7, Mattt wrote:

 Michael,

 Built it yourself.  The only part to farm out is the headset.  You will
 learn much in the process and very gratifying.  I used Parks Blue Book and
 was able to do it with this instruction.

 Matt


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Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's Overseas Trip - What do you want?

2014-03-13 Thread Hugh Smitham
Mr Fong,

I should have been more specific, XD2 or XD600 square taper cranks
anodized.

~Hugh

Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving. -- Albert Einstein

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On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Brewster Fong bfd...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Thursday, March 13, 2014 4:24:14 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 I'd like to see the Sugino cranks offered with a black or hard anodizing.


 But Sugino cranks can be found in black! Here's the Alpine 800d in black:

 https://www.benscycle.com/p-909-sugino-alpina-800d-crankset.aspx?

 Unfortunately, those cranks will only take an Octalink bbGood Luck!





 Next I'd like to see the big front rack with a small tomb stone to
 accommodate a rando bag. Yes I'm aware of the other version Campee rack
 with detachable low riders but the top rack isn't as sturdy
 and detachable parts have a way of being misplaced and I'm lazy and don't
 want to take them on  off. My 2 cents.

 ~Hugh

 On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 1:53:30 PM UTC-7, Larry H wrote:

 So what cool bike parts does everyone want Grant to bring back from
 Japan/Taiwan/wherever else he was going?

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