Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv

2014-10-15 Thread Cecily Walker
I love that they have jerseys, etc. that are designed for women, even though they wouldn't fit me. It's too bad - I really wanted that Long Haul Trucker t-shirt with the woman hauling all the stuff. I have a love-hate (mostly hate) relationship with Surly's marketing, but to my mind, they've

[RBW] Re: Cool Porteur Style Rack Free for Someone Considering a Riv Custom - Complications Apply

2014-10-15 Thread Matthew J
Don't want to steer anyone away from Rivendell, but if your custom needs drift from GP's philosophy, Joel Greenblatt / Clockwork is a magician with steel. He was in Milwaukee a few years but now is back in his home town of Minneapolis. On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 8:34:38 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc

Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv

2014-10-15 Thread justinaugust
I am so glad that Rivendell invented the following: - Horizontal top tubes - Gently sloping top tubes - Lugs - Braze ons - Nitto components - Wool - Stripes - Chambray - Plaid - Baskets - Contrarianism - seat head tube angles - Platform pedals I feel blessed to be able to bask in the light of

Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv

2014-10-15 Thread Andrew Marchant-Shapiro
Oh, just shut up and drink the Kool-aid already! On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 9:18:05 AM UTC-4, justin...@gmail.com wrote: I am so glad that Rivendell invented the following: - Horizontal top tubes - Gently sloping top tubes - Lugs - Braze ons - Nitto components - Wool - Stripes -

Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv

2014-10-15 Thread Garth
I take it you mean this rather tongue-in-cheek . . lol :) In appreciation of . On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 9:18:05 AM UTC-4, justin...@gmail.com wrote: I am so glad that Rivendell invented the following: - Horizontal top tubes - Gently sloping top tubes - Lugs - Braze ons -

Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv

2014-10-15 Thread Ron Mc
Rivendell didn't invent them http://blog.training4cyclist.netdna-cdn.com/pictures/timetrial.jpg they just stuck with them On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 8:18:05 AM UTC-5, justin...@gmail.com wrote: I am so glad that Rivendell invented the following: - Horizontal top tubes - Gently sloping

[RBW] A. Homer visits the Big Apple - A report on a ride from NYC to Bear Mountain.

2014-10-15 Thread Iron Rider
For those who may be interested: http://eprider.blogspot.com/2014/10/new-york-city-200k-crossing-to-other.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

RE: [RBW] A. Homer visits the Big Apple - A report on a ride from NYC to Bear Mountain.

2014-10-15 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Very, very nice report. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Iron Rider Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 11:00 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] A. Homer visits the Big Apple - A report on a ride from NYC to Bear

[RBW] Re: Surly after Riv

2014-10-15 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Hey, imagine if some of the really big manufacturers adopted more of the Riv ethos, (or the Surly ethos, for that matter)... don't you think that would potentially take the biking industry in a direction that we could all be happier about? I for one think I'd be even happier in a world that's

[RBW] Green Caffeinated Wheelmen mugs back in, and questions about Riv style pre-oredering.

2014-10-15 Thread 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch
Several listers have asked about green ACW mugs...I've got some made now, there's two sizes available. www.bradclick.bigcartel.com The recent talk about the Rivendell wool stripe shirt reminded me I put a deposit on one as to not repeat my missing of the purple version. Generally I am not

RE: [RBW] Green Caffeinated Wheelmen mugs back in, and questions about Riv style pre-oredering.

2014-10-15 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Re the Appaloosa pre-sale, I was pretty shocked that I was one of the trusting souls who signed up. But, boy, I’m really glad I did. My Mystery Bike (proto-App) is an awesome bike. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 15,

Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv

2014-10-15 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
I wish Surly would make a 2.2 version of the Knard. I've read a lot of really positive reviews and comments on the tire and now there is even a 41mm version. However, 40mm tires are now skinny to me (my current bike will easily fit them) and I'm working on getting a bike that will take true

[RBW] Re: Green Caffeinated Wheelmen mugs back in, and questions about Riv style pre-oredering.

2014-10-15 Thread Dave @ Riv
As the orchestrator of presales around here they always make me nervous because delays are inevitable for products that don't yet exist. And we feel so apologetic when they're late. We only presale things that have enormous upfront costs: unique MUSA things like the rain jacket and full

Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv

2014-10-15 Thread Bill Lindsay
Rivendell didn't invent wool, they invented sheep! ;-P On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 6:18:05 AM UTC-7, justin...@gmail.com wrote: I am so glad that Rivendell invented the following: - Horizontal top tubes - Gently sloping top tubes - Lugs - Braze ons - Nitto components - Wool -

Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv

2014-10-15 Thread Goshen Peter
and the process for making steel, I believe its called the Grant-Bessemer Process [?] On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Rivendell didn't invent wool, they invented sheep! ;-P On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 6:18:05 AM UTC-7, justin...@gmail.com

Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv

2014-10-15 Thread Goshen Peter
Silly of me, its called the Petersen-Bessemer Process duh! On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Goshen Peter uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: and the process for making steel, I believe its called the Grant-Bessemer Process [?] On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com

[RBW] Re: A. Homer visits the Big Apple - A report on a ride from NYC to Bear Mountain.

2014-10-15 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
Sounds like a perfect autumn ride in New England. On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 7:59:45 AM UTC-7, Iron Rider wrote: For those who may be interested: http://eprider.blogspot.com/2014/10/new-york-city-200k-crossing-to-other.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: [RBW] Re: A. Homer visits the Big Apple - A report on a ride from NYC to Bear Mountain.

2014-10-15 Thread Goshen Peter
Whoa Whoa Wait a minute. Don't associate us fine upstate NYers with those bean breaths in New England.. On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 2:56 PM, cyclotour...@gmail.com cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds like a perfect autumn ride in New England. On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 7:59:45 AM

[RBW] SFR mixed terrain populaire this weekend - October 18

2014-10-15 Thread Neil
Bay Area Riv enthusiasts - is anybody partaking in the SF Randonneurs' mixed terrain populaire this Saturday? 103 km through Marin County...Headlands, Tiburon, up most of Tam, then back to SF...about 20% fire roads. Supposed to get a shot of rain this week, so the dirt will be mmmgood.

Re: [RBW] Re: A. Homer visits the Big Apple - A report on a ride from NYC to Bear Mountain.

2014-10-15 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
There must be a covered bridge somewhere on that ride!!! On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 12:04:09 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: Whoa Whoa Wait a minute. Don't associate us fine upstate NYers with those bean breaths in New England.. On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 2:56 PM, cyclot...@gmail.com

[RBW] Re: SFR El Paseito Mixto Populaire 103k

2014-10-15 Thread Neil
Yep. Been looking forward to it. The dirt should be velcro perfecto after this rain. On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 8:36:29 PM UTC-7, ted wrote: Anybody planing on riding this this Sat? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To

[RBW] Re: Surly after Riv

2014-10-15 Thread Neil
Gotta respect Surly for their out-of-the-box way of doing it, as much as you gotta respect Riv for the same thing. My LHT was the stepping stone to a Sam Hillborne, and I know I'm not the only one. My LHT taught me that riding a steel 'road' bike in the dirt is fun, and the Sam confirmed it.

[RBW] Re: FS: Waterford, Bridgestone, and Rawland - Chris King, Phil Wood, etc.

2014-10-15 Thread Christopher Miller Rosales
Hello again! The Waterford is still available. Price drop again to $1000 for bay area pick-up, or $1100 shipped CONUS. The Bridgestone has been claimed but the Rawland is still available. How about $400 + shipping for Frameset, headset, stem, and bar. Please feel free to offer any interesting

[RBW] Re: FS: Tubus Vega Evo Rack, BM 4D Toplight and Stainless Hardware Kits

2014-10-15 Thread Call Me Jay
Sold. On Tuesday, October 7, 2014 9:14:14 PM UTC-4, Call Me Jay wrote: I've been trying to sell this set-up locally but figured that I'd see anyone from the Bunch was interested: https://hartford.craigslist.org/bik/4697201892.html One minor scuff but otherwise flawless. $90 shipped or

[RBW] Re: Seat post clamp bolt snapped

2014-10-15 Thread Hunter Harr
Pictures would help. But if I understand what I read right, Head broke off bolt so what is left in the frame is post and locknut, so should just punch out and get a replacement bolt and nut. The seat clamp part that is part of the frame on Rivs is not threaded, one size captures a nut then bolt

[RBW] Re: Your Bleriot with front rack and P-clamps works good?

2014-10-15 Thread Danno
With only one set of eyelets on the front fork (currently used by fenders), I was considering this rack from Soma http://store.somafab.com/sochelfrra.html On Thursday, October 9, 2014 1:20:34 PM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote: 1. What's your experience? 2. Do P-clamps slide down over time? 3.

Re: [RBW] Re: Seat post clamp bolt snapped

2014-10-15 Thread David Stein
Hunter - You are correct. Problem 2 has been solved by a simple tap out of the nut and bolt per previous suggestions. I did not realize it was just a bolt on the other side, I was under the impression there was some threads in the housing and the bolt would have to be extracted by drilling a hole

Re: [RBW] Re: Seat post clamp bolt snapped

2014-10-15 Thread Joe Bunik
Just a thought, Dave - but are you using a hanger-stop (eg Nitto) that attaches to the seatpost bolt? And, if so- was it perhaps getting lodged between the ears of the lug-slot and causing less-than-100% clampage? Something to watch out for! =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA On 10/15/14, David Stein

Re: [RBW] Re: Seat post clamp bolt snapped

2014-10-15 Thread David Stein
Do you mean the hanger stop for the brakes? Yes, but it was pretty well centered, though I may not understand what you're asking. On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Joe Bunik jbu...@gmail.com wrote: Just a thought, Dave - but are you using a hanger-stop (eg Nitto) that attaches to the seatpost

Re: [RBW] SFR El Paseito Mixto Populaire 103k

2014-10-15 Thread Eric Norris
Looks fun, but I'll be up in Oregon visiting my daughter and riding a permanent. --Eric N campyonly...@me.com Web: www.campyonly.com Twitter: @campyonlyguy Blog: campyonlyguy.blogspot.com On Oct 14, 2014, at 8:36 PM, ted ted.ke...@comcast.net wrote: Anybody planing on riding this this Sat?

[RBW] Pikes Peak Highway, First Attempt

2014-10-15 Thread Deacon Patrick
My brain was a no-go yesterday and I was reflecting on how there is no substitute for being out riding or running or camping. Nothing approximates and one of those things, let alone the combo of bikepacking. So it was with elation that I woke this morning to clear skies and happy brain and

[RBW] Pikes Peak Highway, First Attempt

2014-10-15 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
It sounds like a wonderful and challenging ride Patrick. Nothing like a headwind on a climb, thats for sure. I envy you. I rode Ride the Rockies in 2004 and got to climb Rabbit Ears near Steamboat Springs, Independence Pass and Left Hand from Boulder to Estes Park. We missed out on Trail Ridge

[RBW] Re: Pikes Peak Highway, First Attempt

2014-10-15 Thread David Spranger
That sounds and looks wonderful. You have given me another reason (as if I needed anymore) to get out to CO sometime soon. David Charlotte (flatland), NC On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 4:08:43 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: My brain was a no-go yesterday and I was reflecting on how there is

[RBW] Re: Pikes Peak Highway, First Attempt

2014-10-15 Thread Deacon Patrick
Sounds great, Tim and Dave. Let me know and hopefully the ride elves will all come together. Just be forewarned that my brain requires special preparation on your part to get you as scent-free as possible. I was really looking forward to trying this because it is paved and I don't ride much

Re: [RBW] Re: A. Homer visits the Big Apple - A report on a ride from NYC to Bear Mountain.

2014-10-15 Thread WETH
I enjoyed reading your ride report and viewing your photos. You reports are inspiring me to want to give this Rando thing a try. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

[RBW] Re: A. Homer visits the Big Apple - A report on a ride from NYC to Bear Mountain.

2014-10-15 Thread Deacon Patrick
I always love reading your reflections, introspections, and reports as well as your photos. Thanks! With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 8:59:45 AM UTC-6, Iron Rider wrote: For those who may be interested:

[RBW] Re: Pikes Peak Highway, First Attempt

2014-10-15 Thread George Schick
My hat's off to all of you who attempt this sort of thing. As I mentioned in a previous post, we visited my son and his family in Colo Springs at the end of September and drove up Pike's Peak. When we got to the top I walked around feeling light headed and my wife complained of chest pressure

[RBW] Re: Pikes Peak Highway, First Attempt

2014-10-15 Thread Ron Mc
very nice photos. On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 3:08:43 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: My brain was a no-go yesterday and I was reflecting on how there is no substitute for being out riding or running or camping. Nothing approximates and one of those things, let alone the combo of

[RBW] Re: Pikes Peak Highway, First Attempt

2014-10-15 Thread Deacon Patrick
You're right, George. Hypoxia is a challenge to avoid when exerting one's self at altitude. Whenever I'm running or biking a steep climb, I pray the rosary silently in my head. If I lose my place, I know I need to exert myself less. I back off a wee bit and then the meditation of the rosary

[RBW] FS: XL Blue Flannel Tan HAR Bags

2014-10-15 Thread john muhl
$80 Flannel. Washed once and tried on but didn’t like the size. $120 HAR Bags. Lightly used (comes with 2 Irish straps). + actual shipping costs. Paypal preferred. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group

Re: [RBW] Re: Pikes Peak Highway, First Attempt

2014-10-15 Thread Patrick Moore
Good story, great ride, and all the more so since it was done single speed (or at least, non-handlebar-mount-gear-switcher). Waaay back about 1972, when I used to ride a lot further and faster as a 16-17 year old than I do now as a disappointed 59-year-old, I'd be overtaken by the Jesus prayer in

Re: [RBW] Re: A. Homer visits the Big Apple - A report on a ride from NYC to Bear Mountain.

2014-10-15 Thread Iron Rider
I gave this rando thing a try 4 years ago and haven't stopped since. I would never try to talk anyone into doing this sport but I would tell anyone that if you love to ride a bike, enjoy some of the best scenery offered to cyclists and relish a challenge - Randonneuring offers it all. --

Re: [RBW] Re: A. Homer visits the Big Apple - A report on a ride from NYC to Bear Mountain.

2014-10-15 Thread Iron Rider
I gave this rando thing a try 4 years ago and haven't stopped since. I would never try to talk anyone into doing this sport but I would tell anyone that if you love to ride a bike, enjoy some of the best scenery offered to cyclists and relish a challenge - Randonneuring offers it all. --

Re: [RBW] Re: Pikes Peak Highway, First Attempt

2014-10-15 Thread Deacon Patrick
Aye. I use the Jesus prayer on the climbs that I know don't push my capacity (I suspect this one will always push my capacity!). Both are beautiful ways to enter contemplative bliss when climbing and simply find yourself miles further on your way. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this

[RBW] More Clem on the Blug

2014-10-15 Thread James Warren
Lots of questions answered. This bike would meet my expectations. Dirt capability and easy ability to take a front derailleur should you want to add one. It's going to be awesome! On Oct 14, 2014, at 7:50 AM, Jim Bronson wrote: I clamp mine on the top tube or seat tube every time, never a

Re: [RBW] More Clem on the Blug

2014-10-15 Thread Goshen Peter
That tire clearance in the last shot is sexy as hell! On Oct 15, 2014 8:05 PM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: Lots of questions answered. This bike would meet my expectations. Dirt capability and easy ability to take a front derailleur should you want to add one. It's going to

Re: [RBW] More Clem on the Blug

2014-10-15 Thread James Warren
Better clearance than my 2001 Atlantis! Ain't progress great! On Oct 15, 2014, at 5:11 PM, Goshen Peter wrote: That tire clearance in the last shot is sexy as hell! On Oct 15, 2014 8:05 PM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: Lots of questions answered. This bike would meet my

Re: [RBW] More Clem on the Blug

2014-10-15 Thread Eric Daume
I wonder why they had to go with the oddball seat tube size? On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 8:16 PM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: Better clearance than my 2001 Atlantis! Ain't progress great! On Oct 15, 2014, at 5:11 PM, Goshen Peter wrote: That tire clearance in the last shot is

Re: [RBW] More Clem on the Blug

2014-10-15 Thread BSWP
Can someone explain the top rear lug? It combines functions of joining top and seat tubes, and clamp for seat post, but also provides sockets for seat stays? Is that why the seat stays on the small and middle models are bent, so they cleanly fit into the top lug? I think the new frame has

Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv

2014-10-15 Thread Bruce Smitham
Well I never said that Rivendell invented that stuff, it looks so familiar to what Riv is doing. I guess it's just a matter of taste and I now prefer the Riv over the Surly. I wouldn't say that the Police or The Rolling Stones invented music, drums or reggae music but I prefer them over

[RBW] Re: Pikes Peak Highway, First Attempt

2014-10-15 Thread Jon in the foothills of Central Colorado
Well Done Patrick! You are the MAN! You will appreciate it the next time without wind and snow. It will be more manageable.That wind flowing over the snow had to have been cold. Maybe next time I'll join you.:) Jon On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 2:08:43 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: My

[RBW] Re: Pikes Peak Highway, First Attempt

2014-10-15 Thread Deacon Patrick
Ha! We'll see, Jon. The wilds love to throw extra fun our way, in many forms. Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Pikes Peak Highway, First Attempt

2014-10-15 Thread Kelly
That is so so kewl. I was in Colorado Springs and went to ride up and when I got to the toll booth they said we couldn't ride up. Great to see they changed the rules... this may be worth the 12 hour drive to go ride it. Thanks for the ride report Kelly On Wednesday, October 15, 2014

[RBW] Pikes Peak Highway, First Attempt

2014-10-15 Thread Pondero
Ha ha ha ... Patrick referred to himself as wimpy ... Ha ha ha (I don't think so) Chris Johnson Sanger, Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

Re: [RBW] More Clem on the Blug

2014-10-15 Thread cyclotourist
Exciting! I hope this is a super-seller for them! I like all three of those colors. Especially the bile green. Hmmm, bile... Fork crown looks GREAT and curve on the blades is nice. And wow, that tire clearance... I absolutely love how it can take a fat tire! Strange about the seat tube size.

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Waterford, Bridgestone, and Rawland - Chris King, Phil Wood, etc.

2014-10-15 Thread Patrick Shea
Hi Chris: Is the Rawland still around? I'm in SF if it is (and I guess I will still be here if it isn't.) Cheers, Patrick On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Christopher Miller Rosales cmillerrosa...@gmail.com wrote: Hello again! The Waterford is still available. Price drop again to $1000 for

[RBW] SFR El Paseito Mixto Populaire 103k

2014-10-15 Thread Philip Williamson
That looks like a great ride. I might do the Permanent some time. If I went on Saturday, on the Quickbeam, I'd have to shave off the Tiburon loop. I don't think there's 60 good miles in my legs this week. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the