I use Pearl Izumi sun sleeves if the humidity is not too high, they work great.
However, if it's really humid and 90+, they're worse than useless,
better just to go with bare arms/legs and an extra helping of
sunscreen.
Or are you talking about only your head? I don't know, I have tons of
hair
Here's what I use:
http://www.treadley.com.au/
This little cottage industry was developed by a concerned mother in
Australia. They can look a bit goofy but work fantastic. If I remember
correctly she had a big sale right around Easter last year.
Matt
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First decision point: Long chain stays or not? no=Sam; yes=clem/clementine
or cheviot
Second decision point: fattiest tires? yes=clem/clementine
Third Decision point: top tube or not? yes=Clem or Sam; no=Clementine or
Cheviot
Fourth decision combopoints: how much can I spend, am I a
For those of you on this list who aren't on the iBob list, I have ordered a
3 sp fixed hub for a second rear wheel for my '03 Curt. I'd be interested
in impressions of it from those who have used one but haven't commented
already. In particular:
1. How does it hold up long term? Scuttlebutt says
On 03/21/2015 01:40 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:
3. Several made the interesting comment that riding with the hub is
really not like riding fixed; rather, more like riding a regular
3-speed. That is fine with me, since I would use this wheel only when
I don't feel like riding a real fixed wheel
Bill, your post with introspection on perfecter-builds and the Clem was
really lovely. I'm especially touched by the lines, Those bikes [the
Clems], I'm completely convinced, could make me completely happy, and that
would be the first off-the-rack complete bike that could do that since I
was
Of course, I forgot a question that I meant most to ask: Since the S3X
wheel will be an occasional wheel, I'd like to have a quick-setup shifting
system, which means no housing if possible. I've ordered the thumbshifter
as well as the bar end shifter and thought I'd cobble something that could
Cycling cap under helmet and sunscreen on my fave and neck.
Jim, sorry to hear about your mom's surgeries. I lost my mother to melanoma;
hers developed on her scalp.
So to all, wear sunscreen and protect your scalp, whether you are balding or
not! Skin cancer kills!
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Shopsack on the rear rack works brilliantly! It held 6 packs of cheese,
bulk coconut oil, 4 doz. eggs (+2 in/on the large trunksack on the front
rack), plus whatever else my wife had me get (I don't pay attention because
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Welcome, KC! Congratulations on your Cheviot!
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Had a Sam; loved it. Daughter took it. Intrigued when the Cheviots came
out; the green sealed it. Bought a Cheviot; love it. Have 43mm tires on it
now for trails; Rock and Roads. They're also great on the street, so I
commute on them too. The Cheviot is even more comfortable to me than my Sam
Anthracite is the name of a silvery gray color. The Clem comes in that
silvery gray color, and also British racing green and a dark
blue-green color.
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 7:05 PM, DSat sattd...@gmail.com wrote:
On the Blug there is a picture labelled Anthracite. I thought that I read
Oh, I'm used to not coasting. But I may eventually re-install a rear brake
and use the S3X with a 17 t fw or perhaps a DOS freewheel.
(Of course, then I'd have to have a derailleur hangar brazed on, and a dt
shifter boss; all of which will eventually lead to an electric hub motor
and at last to
Plowing through the snow attempting to make Rampart Reservoir, my nine speed
chain that is less than a year old decided to shatter a side link. I’m not
talking a pin pipping out and a bent side. The pin blew out the side so there
is a very open “O-C where there used to be an “O-O.”
LCG to the
The Clem rides like a Rivendell, meaning very nicely. It's stout like my
Bombadil, but definitely more laid back and cruiserish.
The thing that the Clem does for me is more about me. I'm a super detailed
bike builder. I'm extremely proud of many of my builds, and I dwell on
them a lot.
Patrick:
I know I've chimed in before, but I'm a big fan of the S3X, so here goes ...
1) No problems long term so far after a few year's use of two S3X on two bikes.
2) Lash is mildly annoying when you use the hub as a fixed gear. I run both of
mine with a White Industries Eno freewheel now,
If I'm not wearing a helmet I wear an older version of this from
Tilley:
http://www.tilley.com/us_en/men/hats/warm-weather/ltm6is-insect-shieldr.html
If I'm wearing a helmet I wear
this: http://www.solararmourinc.com/neckvizor.cfm
I have thick hair atop my head and have never been burned
If I think the road or ride is dangerous I wear a cotton cycling cap under my
helmet and just sweat a lot. The evaporation makes it tolerable.
When riding around town I wear a panama style hat from my local hardware store.
Good shade and keeps me cool.
Gonna start heating up here in
Yes Matt, is does *appear *longer , even by measuring the full image with a
ruler onscreen where it definitely IS longer. So there seems to be direct
contradiction here, with Keven's info and the image shown, which should be
noted is only a prototype. The production frames are non-existent
I ride a great deal in wide open ranch land through long Texas summers. Last
year I switched to what the ranchers wear...a well-ventilated straw cowboy hat.
I choose a not-too-snug fit and added a stampede string to keep the thing on
during faster downhill runs and gusty days. The advantages
I'm with Patrick. I mostly don't wear a helmet except when required by brevets.
And I'm bald. So I slowly get my head used to the sun each spring by wearing a
cotton cycling cap, then taking it off and putting it in the handlebar bag or
jersey pocket to get 15, then 30 then 45 minutes, until I
Oooh, I get to post my first comment over here since thanks to Clem I will
finally be a Riv owner. I went with the green myself. The blue I like best,
but darnit, I just bought a Simcoe roadster last year in a similar (but
matte) hue of blue, and it's staying in my stable and I don't need two
I just installed a Yepp Mini stem mounted kid seat and I need a bar with a
little less reach to give me and the wee-lad a little more room. I'm
currently running chopped Alba bars and i wish I had those 1.5 inches
back now... Our 14 month old is totally loving his new bike seat. He
brought me
too avoid sagging, especially since you a carrying food, try a flexible
plastic cutting board in the bottom on the bag. duel use, as a cutting
board for tasty tour meals.
Morgan
On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 6:56:57 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
I did go on a first day of Spring ride with
Which current Riv bike model would be the most similar to the Clem? I
realize the Clem is different, but try and explain where it fits into the
current bike model lineup.
On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 3:21:27 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
I rolled by RBW HQ this morning and got to test ride a
Anyone want to make an offer on this bike. I'm ready to consider shipping
it or selling just the frame and forks for those who've asked me that in
the past.
Thanks.
On Tuesday, January 6, 2015 at 12:08:44 PM UTC-8, john elliott wrote:
Hi,
After careful deliberation I am deciding to offer
Is anyone considering using drop bars on their Clem build. The 61 cm tt on
the 59 is not too long for me.
I am a new member to this group, been a fairly quiet member of ibob and
CR for many years. I have a Rivendell Road, 96, and last fall bought
a 2000 AR. Main interest is cycletouring, returned
On the Blug there is a picture labelled Anthracite. I thought that I
read somewhere that the three colors for the Clem were blue, green, and
silver. Does Anthracite refer to the silver color that was mentioned?
Or is there not a picture of the Silver? Is the Anthracite just a test
color
I have Schwalbe Marathon 47's with Paul mini-motos, the straddle wire
clears the tires (barely), but couldn't possibly clear any kind of fender.
On Sunday, March 15, 2015 at 6:00:20 PM UTC-4, Will wrote:
I have a new-to-me Atlantis that needs brakes. I've just installed P65
Longboards and
I ended up with a Solar Sombrero from Simms Fishing. Nice, light,
rollable. Easy to tuck into the bag. Ended up with a couple of their
sunblocking arm covers as well. And I have a bunch of the sunblocking Buff
headwear neck gaiters (both in merino wool for winter and their superlight
UV
Kellie, not sure if you saw my message. We're from socal and vacationing here
in bay area waiting for new granddaughter. Kids live in Marina Bay complex.
You will likely find us on the trail today pulling 2 year old in trailer.
Any suggestions for nice rides in the area are appreciated.
I'm fair skinned and use a Buff over my hair, ears and back of my neck to
prevent sunburn but don't ride in hot and humid weather. Most I ever did was
107 miles in 107 heat and quit. Cheers Eileen
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I have an inordinate fondness of hats and have tried lots and lots of types
while bicycling. Here are some fav's:
+2 on tilly brimmed hats; cotton, oilcloth, or wool. Both Erin and I love
them. The curve of the brim from back to front is good with wind and can be
coupled with the chin strap
Oh, I don't know. The bedroom is the place for Rivs!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/7563204@N05/16856700776/
On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 1:19:58 PM UTC-4, Liesl wrote:
I say not only store your bike in the living room, but work on it there,
too! It's way more pleasant!
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I don't wear a helmet. I love getting an hour or two of peak sun exposure
for Vitamin D and other intangibles that only get produced by our skin via
sun exposure when the sun is higher than 45˚. Outside that, I wear either a
Tilley hat (medium brim, I prefer their cotton one, but mine is too
I've got a set of VO Tourist bars with Tektro City levers, Nitto 10cm
Tallux stem, and black foam grips. Stem and bar are 25.4mm clamp, and bar
and levers are 22.2mm. All in excellent condition.
Looking for $100 plus shipping, or will entertain trades for Noodle/Mark's
Bar and matching stem.
If I do wear a hat, mostly to keep the sun out of eyes, it's a Headsweats
Cycle cap . It's not cheapie generic cycle cap either, the bill is a
little longer and flexible . The high quality fabric is great for warm
weather, Coolmax . I too find most headwear too warm , but these caps I
can
Bringing my shade with me...
http://instagram.com/p/sauukJnPxU/
Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas
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I'll be test riding a clem this weekend and I'll let you know my thoughts.
Given the thick diameter tubes and overall stoutness/geometry of the bike,
I doubt anyone would consider the Clem a light anything. How you loas it
and what feels good is up to you, and perhaps the Clem will feel
For a few years I had the good fortune to be able to adjust my work schedule so
that I could ride all 75km/46 miles to work. By bicycle one day, train home,
train to work next day, bicycle home. To make everything work I used my
Rivendell custom with 28mm tubulars some days, my Heron Touring
BOB'S…. every Fri. night after football games!
On Thursday, March 19, 2015 at 4:36:48 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:
If you grew up in SoCal, you'll remember this little guy. This one is now
in Florence, OR. The staff had no idea about it. A hot rode themed
restaurant with a unique mascot from
Bump price drop to 700plus shipping, have a complete build kit (minus
wheels) to throw in for $200 as well.
Add ons all riv sourced
Mustache Bars dirt drop stem
Sugino Triple
Microshift triple drive train derailleurs and shifters.
Tektro Brakes already included - front one is squishy
Will
Hey! Bill! I am thankful you found a problem I don't have! I have no
problem abusing my Hunqapillar, to which the numerous dings in the paint
attest. Grin. I am so glad you have a quality beater on the way!
With abandon,
Patrick
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The person in question has been interested in having a bike she could
ride around her uptown-y area in a large southern city. She owns a
couple of high end crabon fibre bikes. I suggested the Clementine as
one of the finest examples of such a bike, and informed her of the
presale.
However, she
Thanks again, Eric -- I know you are a fan, and it's good to know that
someone who puts a great deal of mileage on them is happy with them.
Eventually I may use mine with a freewheel, but I thought I'd start with
the simplest application and try it fixed, first.
On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 12:06 PM,
Thanks Deacon, but to be clear, I have no problem riding my Bombadil hard,
but I do have to actively choose to forget how expensive it is. I also
have a nice beater in my Paramountain (with Bosco Bullmooses). I might
have a Clem on the way, but I don't have one on the way yet.
B
On
I've had the SunRace thumbie on an Alba and loved it. I guess it's a
matter of taste and experience, but it felt pretty solid to me.
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I just rode the smallest (swear they said 50, but looks like 45 per blug and
makes more sense to me - easy to confirm with them, it was the teal prototype)
around the parking lot and it felt great after they moved the seat way down for
me. Fit very nicely. I'm 5'3 and ride a 50 cheviot.
Can someone explain or point me to a description of and explanation of the
differences between:
The Appaloosa;
The Clems;
The Cheviot;
And any other high-swept-back-bar'd, long-stay'd model?
As for bikes in bedroom: I used to park my Falcon next to my bed. One night
the tube at 120 psi (19 mm
On 03/21/2015 01:52 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:
Oh, I'm used to not coasting. But I may eventually re-install a rear
brake and use the S3X with a 17 t fw or perhaps a DOS freewheel.
(Of course, then I'd have to have a derailleur hangar brazed on, and a
dt shifter boss; all of which will
I took my first little tour with my Sam. Mileage was a little much for my
cycling condition in these TN rolling hills, but I had a good time. They
wouldn't let me move the parks I wanted to go to closer.
Patrick, I tied a large shop sack on my back rack.
Here is a little write up:
Keven describes my 85cm PBH 5-10 wife as on the cusp between Med and Large.
In talking it over with her it became clear that for her type of riding
(with kids, maneuverability trumps limo smooth) she will be happier on the
Medium. So that's what we're going with. A discussion with Keven or
Well, if she typically rides a 54cm ROAD bike, then I think most bike shops
would put her on a MOUNTAIN bike that's significantly *smaller *than a 52.
I guess I think of the Clem as more of a mountain bike, and one which
should be a bit bigger than someone is used to getting, because of the
Solution; a Riv for every room! (-:
On Saturday, March 21, 2015 at 7:44:44 AM UTC-7, Melanie wrote:
Oh, I don't know. The bedroom is the place for Rivs!
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On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 1:19:58 PM UTC-4, Liesl wrote:
I say not only
Awesome time, Edwin! That Shopsack is handy, aye? I just posted on my own
shopping adventure with it in that thread (which may be why you mentioned
it in the first place?). Too steep for cows? That's pretty steep!
With abandon,
Patrick
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Don't forget about the forthcoming Appaloosa II, which soundls like it will
be a Sam Hillbourne WITH long chainstays. If it ends up fitting a little
wider tires than the normal Sam, it might be the perfect bike for those who
can't decide.
Another thought though: *If any one model fits you
She is attracted to the aesthetics of the Clementine, so I don't think
the Clem is really an option.
On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 2:28 PM, iamkeith keithhar...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, if she typically rides a 54cm ROAD bike, then I think most bike shops
would put her on a MOUNTAIN bike that's
I'm using Microshift 9-speed index on two bikes and love them. My
daughter's have been going strong for 2 years.
On Saturday, March 21, 2015 at 3:22:59 PM UTC-5, cbone97 wrote:
I've had the SunRace thumbie on an Alba and loved it. I guess it's a
matter of taste and experience, but it
so do you carry a chain tool, your leftover chain length and power links?
I would, and do.
On Saturday, March 21, 2015 at 1:02:11 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
Plowing through the snow attempting to make Rampart Reservoir, my nine
speed chain that is less than a year old decided to
So here is my can I convert a 27wheel to 26 wheel? project bike. The
answer is yes - thanks to those bigTektro beach cruiser brakes which have
been mentioned on other threads herein. I even think it looks pretty cool
and rides just great.
Then RBW just had to show me an anthracite Clem
I was getting somewhat close to putting the money down for a 59cm Clem,
until I checked the geo chart and saw that it had a 34.75 standover
height. At 6'3 with a 91cm PBH, I already find my 62cm Cross Check taller
than what I want for around town riding, and it's a touch less than 34 in
standover
Nonetheless, if I correctly understand where her reservations are coming
from, you should still tell her to think of it in terms of mountain bike
sizing rather than road bike sizing. Didn't Grant somewhere use the term
mountain mixte? He definitely talks about it as an evolution of the 80s
My Hilsen was shifting poorly this week, skipping, etc. While adjusting and
cleaning it I found a broken link, the first one I've ever had. So I replaced
it. I headed out for a ride today and the first time I stood on the pedals the
chain slipped, throwing me forward and when I caught myself
Hi Tim,
Sorry to hear about your shoulder. A good quality cassette should last tens
of thousands of miles if you change your chain before it wears too much.
Consensus on too much seems to be when the chain measures about 1% longer
than new--less for 11-speed. A chain checker
I think the MAXIMUM in maximum standover height is the key word. I think
with the sloping top tube, if you tried to straddle the top tube right by
the headset, that might be why they're using the qualifier, maximum.
Just thinkin'
David
Chicago
On Saturday, March 21, 2015 at 6:36:34 PM UTC-5,
Bill, if you don't have a blog, you should start one..you're pretty good at
this writing thing. I've never bike-camped, and you're description of
hitting those East Bay spots makes me want to. Hmm, RBW sells camping
gear...
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA
On Saturday, March 21, 2015 at 9:08:03 AM
Everyone seems to get many, many more miles out of everything than I do. I have
to change cassettes each season. The proof is in the pudding. I put on a new
chain, the bike doesn't shift well. I change the cassette, problem solved. I
tend to wear stuff out. I'm not really sure why. I'm not a
Ahhh. That's were not having short term memory is a blessing! I don't
remember how much me beastie was. Grin.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Saturday, March 21, 2015 at 2:06:47 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote:
Thanks Deacon, but to be clear, I have no problem riding my Bombadil hard,
but I do have
hi, sorry I'm slow - that's my buddy's Dahon and supposed to be a bell,
from the same Dutch folks who sell the solid copper fenders. I like the
fenders, but that bell is too soft-spoken.
On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 4:45:59 PM UTC-5, Minh wrote:
hi ron, what is that copper disc in the
You think I'm THAT smart? Sardonic grin. I keep meaning to. I've broken my
two old mini chain tools. Hopefully one of these day's I'll get them
re-stocked in my bag. Still, I enjoyed the few miles of uphill running. All
part of the fun! Grin.
With abandon,
Patrick
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White cables on green to recall British racers is a brilliant idea! I was
leaning away from green if I get a Clem 'cause I just bought a green ANT
Roadster, but your idea sounds really sharp. I've now officially committed
to all three colors in the last few weeks. Oy!
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.
Can't help with the bars but just wanted to say, it sounds like you're a great
Dad. So cool that he's enjoying the bike rides! Treasure this time. Cheers,
Steve
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^^^ THIS has been my hesitation/concern all along, too!^^
As others have pointed out though, there seems to be some sort of
disconnect between the geometry numbers that we know about, the clearances
cited, the height recommendations given, and extrapolation from all other
Rivendell models we
I picked the silver-ish gray originally, and was surprised to see the dark
gray anthracite. I was envisioning something lighter shade with the silver
descriptor, then seeing the green, kinda wished I picked that. I thought
about seeing if colors can be changed, but figured, I'm sure I'll want
I almost did Moto-Lites, but 2 things got in the way: 1) I want to install
a Tubus Logo Evo and the area looked conflicted for Moto-lites, and 2) the
Atlantis has a very nice arched brake bridge that would get abandoned.
Which seemed wrong.
Brian, at Riv, reco'd the CX-70 cantis, which I
Looks like the dropouts on my waterford built Heron, which are stainless
steel and were masked off during paint to show the bare stainless.
It's probably a Waterford thing, the Toyo built Atlantis were not
stainless. I believe stainless has to be silver brazed as well, which is an
additional
Fenders and especially a good mudflap can really prolong drive-train
life.I'm just guessing but the increase in lifespan is maybe 4-5x.
On Saturday, March 21, 2015 at 7:21:22 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
Everyone seems to get many, many more miles out of everything than I do. I
have to change
Yes, it seems to be a Waterford thing, as with the Gunnar frame that came to
live with me only yesterday and has shiny stainless steel dropouts.
But I don't know if they need to be brazed, since the Gunnar is a welded frame.
On Mar 21, 2015, at 8:53 PM, Dave Johnston jdi...@gmail.com wrote:
Nice! familiar territory for me, makes me a little homesick to see pictures
of those rolling TN hills. I graduated from MTSU and lived in Nashville and
middle TN for ~10 years. The only bike camping I did was down the Natchez
Trace. Is there a link to the route map that you did on that site?
Edwin,
I enjoyed your journal and photographs. Thanks for sharing; your experience
has me eager to get in an over night or two this spring.
Many thanks.
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Deacon,
I always enjoy your posts. You are just hard on chains. You ride in a lot
of bad weather, even in snow. I have found that my personal solution is to
buy KMC chains and change more often ( 3000 miles). For you exploits, you
may want to consider changing your chain twice a year. Also, you
My DTT Sam was one of the first of the Waterfords and the rear dropouts look
the same as your Atlantis.
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Good advice Matt. I use fenders, but I ride year round and I'm not at all
proactive about cleaning. I'm guessing the amount of grit and grime from the
New England winters has substantially lessened the lifespan of my drivetrain.
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I've got a like new bosco 58cm in cromo out in the Bay Area. $70 shipped?
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I'm going to pull the trigger for a large British racing green Clem
for my son, the Bike Destroyer. It's the perfect bike for him.
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Conway Bennett
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I didn't want to like it (the Clem Jr.), and didn't until I saw them painted.
Interested in 650b configuration. What size?
Michael Allen
On Saturday, March 21, 2015 at 3:18:50 PM UTC-7, cbone97 wrote:
So here is my can I convert a 27wheel to 26 wheel? project bike. The
answer is yes - thanks to those bigTektro beach cruiser brakes which have
been mentioned on other
I just bought a used 61cm Riv Atlantis that I've been working on. I would love
to buy a used Albastache handlebar if anyone has one they are not using. I've
had them but sold them to a list member a while back. Hit me up off line. I can
also trade if anybody needs Noodle 44cm or 46cm.
Cheers,
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