[RBW] Re: 650b tires: the fat and the skinny about them?

[lum gim fong]

I like 38-42mm wide 650b for safety reasons.

I have fallen and been injured when using skinnier tires that got hung up in 
longitudinal road and sidewalk cracks. The wide 38-42 tires dont get caught on 
the cracks .They roll over.
Would have to be pretty wide for them to get stuck in a crack. More safety fir 
me.
Plus, they can be run at lower pressures and that helps tires up and over lips 
between asphalt and concrete gutter, instead of a 120psi tire not rolling up 
over tge lip and staying on asphalt while the bike dumps you over. Not that one 
should be riding this way but sometimes you find yourself among these road 
hazards.

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[RBW] Re: 650b tires: the fat and the skinny about them?

[Evan E.]

Tom,

If you really want narrow 650B tires, you can buy Grand Bois Cypres 650Bx32 
tires from the company's website 

 
in Japan. But I think that, yes, if you go wider, such as the 650Bx38 Loup 
Loup Pass from Compass, or the 650Bx38 Pari-Moto, you'll get the 
combination of comfort, speed, and traction that 650B tires offer. (Col de 
La Vies are far less supple and plush.) And in fact, I think that a few 
years ago Jan Heine of Bicycle Quarterly/Compass determined, through 
testing, that 42mm is the optimum width for performance on 650B tires. This 
is especially true on rough roads where a wide tire soaks up bumps that 
would, on narrower tires, cause "suspension losses" that slow you down. So: 
your current tires might be the ideal width, after all.

Evan E.
SF, CA



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[RBW] Random OT impressions sought: BF Haul-a-Day

[Joe Bernard]

Btw, apologies for posting on the wrong forum. It's already off-topic for 
internet-bob - which is where I intended to go - but WAY OT here. Whoops.

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[RBW] Random OT impressions sought: BF Haul-a-Day

[Joe Bernard]

Yes, I had an NWT for a while. I overestimated its folding ability - it's 
really a take-apart travel bike, as advertised - but it was a nice ride. 

Thanks for the heads up about Lovely Bike, I'll check it out. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fixed Flywheel for the Brain

[Christopher Murray]

I may be inclined to ride platform pedals on a fixed but definitely not without 
brakes. 

chris

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[RBW] Random OT impressions sought: BF Haul-a-Day

[Christopher Murray]

I don't have a Haul-a-day but I've had four Bike Fridays. The one I have 
currently has the same type of adjustable frame as the haul-a-day. The frame 
feels as stiff and as well made as any of the other BFs I've owned. The 
versatility of adjusting the frame is very cool even if not used often. You can 
easily adjust the frame for a 5 foot rider from a 6 footer in about 5 minutes. 
Have you had/ do you have a Bike Friday? If you have any questions I can help 
with, please let me know. 

Lovelybicycle wrote a good review of the haul-a-day not too long before she 
vanished. 

Cheers!
Chris

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[RBW] Random OT impressions sought: BF Haul-a-Day

[Joe Bernard]

Anybody out there in Bobland own one? I'm thinking of building one up as an 
e-assist shopping bike..interested in hearing impressions of the regular 
version. 

Joe Bernard
Novato CA. 

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[RBW] Assorted FS, bit of a clear out.

[Julian Westerhout]

For Sale: 


Mustache cockpit — bars, cloth tape, Nitto technomic stem, Cane Creek brake 
levers, Rivendell Silver barend shifters.  $130 plus shipping. 


Shimano Deore V-brakes, — black — new in boxes - one bike’s worth. $40 
shipped w/in CONUS.


RBW wool brimmed soft cap with pull down ear covering — burgundy with white 
embroidered logo, new. $30 shipped w/in CONUS.


Windstopper fleece skullcap, no name — black outside, yellow inside. New. 
Free with other purchase. 


Jandd expander seat wedge, black, in very good condition, a bit shelf 
dusty. $15 shipped w/in CONUS.


Panaracer Pasela Tourguard folding tire 700 x 35. New. $20 shipped w/in 
CONUS.


Pair of SR SP-150 pedals with Christophe Special toeclips and nylon toe 
straps.  Used, but in good condition. $25 shipped w/in CONUS.


Mustache bar - 26.0 heat treated, with tape residue, little use. $30 sipped 
w/in CONUS.


Older Shimano cantilevers with newer replaceable pad holders with newish 
pads. All there, a bit dirty, one bike’s worth. $25 shipped w/in CONUS.


Suntour XC Pro Cantilevers — one bike’s worth — good shape, with modern 
replaceable pads - -a  bit dirty. $50 shipped w/in CONUS. I have another 
set with older pads, similar condition, no photo. $40 shipped w/in CONUS.


Newer Shimano cantilevers, currently on my Atlantis, with newish Koolstop 
salmon pads. One bike’s worth. $30 shipped w/in CONUS. 


Paypal preferred. F (no fees) if you’re ok with that, regular if not. 


Photos at https://flic.kr/s/aHsmaHuYSC


Please respond off list

Julian Westerhout

Bloomington, IL 


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[RBW] 650b tires: the fat and the skinny about them?

[Tom Goodmann]

I'm the current happy rider of a Curt Goodrich-built Proto Saluki (my 
friend from this list and I have already traded the bike back and forth 
once between us) shod with Gran Bois 42s.  It's a nimble and quick-turning, 
and I'd like to play around with tire sizes a bit to see how "roady" I can 
ride it.  I would like to have tried the 32s once offered from Compass, and 
wonder why 650b tires of that dimension proved undesirable. Those tires, at 
least, are currently unavailable, although I know there are nominal 38s 
(Pacenti Moro; Col la Vie) and a few 35s out there too. Is the general 
thinking that I'd be giving up too much of the advantage of this wheel size 
in pushing the lower limits of tire dimensions?  Thanks for views and 
advice. Tom--in Miami where it is perfect riding weather right now

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[RBW] Re: FS: 58 cm Hunqapillar fork for 26" wheels

[Tony DeFilippo]

Thanks Keith I have been keeping my eye out for something like this!

Conway I'll hit you up off list.

Thanks,
Tony

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Re: [RBW] Spitballing: Hunqabeam fixed conversion ideas

[ted]

Is the novara buz one available new today? Looked to me like only multi speeds 
on the rei site.

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Re: [RBW] Spitballing: Hunqabeam fixed conversion ideas

[ted]

Fair enough, but is the novara buzz one currently in production? Looked like 
just multi speed on the rei site.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Panniers / H'Bar Bags / Rack -- Ortlieb / Tubus / Jandd

[Jack K]

Ortlieb Backrollers and h'bar bag are sold. All else still looking for a 
new home!

-Jack

On Tuesday, December 12, 2017 at 2:41:46 PM UTC-5, Jack K wrote:
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> Hey Riv-folk,
>
>
> Hoping to convert my excess touring gear into cash for other cycling 
> goodies. What cyclist wouldn't want to wake up to Ortlieb under the tree on 
> Christmas morning?  Also the perfect Christmas gift for your spouse (if you 
> like sleeping on the couch)!  ;)
>
>
> I'll try to do actual shipping, if that doesn't get too complicated. 
> Should be $10-ish for bar bags and $15-ish for panniers to most points in 
> the ConUS. Less if you're close to NC, more if you're in Hawaii or Alaska.
>
>
> The stuff ...
>
>
> *Handlebar Bags:*
>
>
>- *LN Ortlieb Ultimate 6 M Classic Handlebar Bag*: Highly visible 
>yellow/black color, indistinguishable from new other than installation 
>cable has normal kink from being installed, 1 key for bar lock. Installed 
>and rode a few times with it empty to test, has never carried a load, been 
>wet or even slightly dusty. *$80 + shipping*
>- *E**C** Jandd Touring Handlebar Bag*: Used on a couple of weeklong 
>tours, but in great shape. Mounting system is brilliant, goes on or off in 
>seconds. Current mount fits quill stems and standard size bars, but an 
>inexpensive adapter for threadless stems and oversized bars is readily 
>available from Jandd.  No shoulder strap is supplied by Jandd, but I'll 
>include the very nice one I purchased for it at a luggage shop. MSRP $105. 
>  *$65 
>+ shipping*
>
> *Panniers:*
>
>
>- *NEW-IN-BOX Ortlieb Back-Roller Classic Panniers:* Highly visible 
>yellow/black color, matches Ortlieb handlebar bag above. New-in-box, 
>current model with QL2.1 mounting system, 40 L, super waterproof roll top 
>closure and just about indestructible. MSRP $180.  *$150 + shipping*
>- *NEW “Old Style” Ortlieb Bikepacker Plus Rear Panniers:* Black, 
>extra $ “Plus” model with lighter weight 100% waterproof fabric. Older 
>version with very useful exterior mesh pockets and 2 horizontal + 2 
>vertical compression straps that are lacking on current model. 42 liters, 
>QL1 mounting hardware. Current MSRP $240.  *$170 + shipping*
>- *NEW “Old Style” Ortlieb Mini-Biker Lite Front Panniers:* Front 
>pannier matching the “Old Style” Bikepacker Plus listed above. Black, 
> extra 
>$ lightweight “Plus” fabric. Older version that’s very similar to the 
>current Sport-Packer Plus model, but with very useful horizontal & 
> vertical 
>compression straps that are lacking on current model. 20-25 liters, QL1 
>mounting hardware.  MSRP $165 when they were available.  *$140 + 
>shipping*
>
> *Racks:*
>
>
>- *LN Tubus Cosmo Stainless Rear Rack (with low-ish rider mounts):* 
> Installed, 
>then removed without ever having a pannier mounted on it less than 100 
>miles later. Indistinguishable from new other than marking on adjustable 
>seat-stay mounting arms where they were clamped by the rack hardware. 
>Original version of the Cosmo, so slightly different than current model. 
>Included is the $13 Tubus "Lower Rack Mounting Kit", which can be used to 
>position the rack slightly further back to increase clearance for heels or 
>disc brakes, or help on bikes with short-ish chainstays. Paid 
> $210+$13=$223 
>at TheTouringStore.Com a couple of years ago.  *$135 + shipping for 
>everything*
>
> Cheers and safe riding,
>
> -Jack K.
> Raleigh, NC
>

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[RBW] Re: Adam's Chev on the BLUG

[Joe Bernard]

I'm getting custom paint..it's going to be Candy Apple Red. Hey, I'll bet it 
would look great with cream tires!

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Re: [RBW] Spitballing: Hunqabeam fixed conversion ideas

[Bill Lindsay]

Novarra  Buzz!  Yes, I'm satisfied.  There is at least one

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Thursday, December 14, 2017 at 12:20:03 PM UTC-8, Eric Daume wrote:
>
> Pardon my interrupted message earlier.
>
> Bill asked if there was any "good" production bike that was single speed 
> only, forward facing dropouts, and not a beach cruiser.
>
> Good is a debatable concept, but I will submit my old Novara Buzz as 
> exhibit one:
>
>
> https://bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2013/07/bike-66-intro-rei-novara-buzz-one.html
>
> No derailer hanger, 120mm spacing, and forward facing dropouts.
>
> For something that cost $200, half off of the original list of $400, it 
> was a good enough bike that I quite enjoyed riding.
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Eric Daume  > wrote:
>
>> Bill asked if there was any "good" production bike that was single speed 
>> only, forward facing dropouts, and not a beach cruiser.
>>
>> Good is a debatable concept, but I will submit my old Novara Buzz as 
>> exhibit one:
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Bill Lindsay > > wrote:
>>
>>> Is there any "good" production bicycle available on planet Earth that is:
>>>
>>> 1.  Designed specifically to be a single speed
>>> 2.  Designed with forward facing rear dropouts
>>>
>>> The only bikes I know of that are designed to be single speed and 
>>> designed with forward facing rear dropouts are beach cruisers.  Are there 
>>> any 'good' bikes designed that way?
>>>
>>> I approve of Deacon Patrick's general plan to trust Riv and trust 
>>> Nobilette.  I also approve of DP's specific plan to run QB-style track 
>>> ends.  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 14, 2017 at 2:48:24 AM UTC-8, Eric Daume wrote:

 My Karate Monkey has rear facing track ends. Changing the wheel ranges 
 from a hassle (single speed) to very frustrating (geared) to probably 
 howling anger (gears + fenders, though I've never used this setup). On the 
 KM, it's sort of worthwhile for the short chainstays. That's not a concern 
 on the Hunq.


 Eric

 On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 11:37 PM, Philip Williamson <
 philip.w...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I can see that if the stays allow the room to exit fat tires easily, 
> then there’s no downside to front facing dropouts over rear facing track 
> ends (my bike does not, so I’m biased). What are the downsides of rear 
> facing track ends with fat tires? I’ve never encountered any.
>
> Philip
> Santa Rosa, CA
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[RBW] Re: Adam's Chev on the BLUG

[Paul Choi]

Joe, would love to see a picture of your 55 Chev in blue. 

On Thursday, December 14, 2017 at 12:16:22 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> I dig the slammed Bullmoose and fistful of seatpost, it gives the bike an 
> "it's all frame" look that really works for me. I'll have the same seatpost 
> height on my 55cm Chev, so I might get the same look with Jones 2.5 Loop 
> bars. It's gonna be rad!

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Re: [RBW] Spitballing: Hunqabeam fixed conversion ideas

[Eric Daume]

Pardon my interrupted message earlier.

Bill asked if there was any "good" production bike that was single speed
only, forward facing dropouts, and not a beach cruiser.

Good is a debatable concept, but I will submit my old Novara Buzz as
exhibit one:

https://bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2013/07/bike-66-intro-rei-novara-buzz-one.html

No derailer hanger, 120mm spacing, and forward facing dropouts.

For something that cost $200, half off of the original list of $400, it was
a good enough bike that I quite enjoyed riding.

Eric


On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Eric Daume  wrote:

> Bill asked if there was any "good" production bike that was single speed
> only, forward facing dropouts, and not a beach cruiser.
>
> Good is a debatable concept, but I will submit my old Novara Buzz as
> exhibit one:
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
>> Is there any "good" production bicycle available on planet Earth that is:
>>
>> 1.  Designed specifically to be a single speed
>> 2.  Designed with forward facing rear dropouts
>>
>> The only bikes I know of that are designed to be single speed and
>> designed with forward facing rear dropouts are beach cruisers.  Are there
>> any 'good' bikes designed that way?
>>
>> I approve of Deacon Patrick's general plan to trust Riv and trust
>> Nobilette.  I also approve of DP's specific plan to run QB-style track
>> ends.
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Thursday, December 14, 2017 at 2:48:24 AM UTC-8, Eric Daume wrote:
>>>
>>> My Karate Monkey has rear facing track ends. Changing the wheel ranges
>>> from a hassle (single speed) to very frustrating (geared) to probably
>>> howling anger (gears + fenders, though I've never used this setup). On the
>>> KM, it's sort of worthwhile for the short chainstays. That's not a concern
>>> on the Hunq.
>>>
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 11:37 PM, Philip Williamson <
>>> philip.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 I can see that if the stays allow the room to exit fat tires easily,
 then there’s no downside to front facing dropouts over rear facing track
 ends (my bike does not, so I’m biased). What are the downsides of rear
 facing track ends with fat tires? I’ve never encountered any.

 Philip
 Santa Rosa, CA

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Re: [RBW] Spitballing: Hunqabeam fixed conversion ideas

[Eric Daume]

Bill asked if there was any "good" production bike that was single speed
only, forward facing dropouts, and not a beach cruiser.

Good is a debatable concept, but I will submit my old Novara Buzz as
exhibit one:


On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Is there any "good" production bicycle available on planet Earth that is:
>
> 1.  Designed specifically to be a single speed
> 2.  Designed with forward facing rear dropouts
>
> The only bikes I know of that are designed to be single speed and designed
> with forward facing rear dropouts are beach cruisers.  Are there any 'good'
> bikes designed that way?
>
> I approve of Deacon Patrick's general plan to trust Riv and trust
> Nobilette.  I also approve of DP's specific plan to run QB-style track
> ends.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Thursday, December 14, 2017 at 2:48:24 AM UTC-8, Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>> My Karate Monkey has rear facing track ends. Changing the wheel ranges
>> from a hassle (single speed) to very frustrating (geared) to probably
>> howling anger (gears + fenders, though I've never used this setup). On the
>> KM, it's sort of worthwhile for the short chainstays. That's not a concern
>> on the Hunq.
>>
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 11:37 PM, Philip Williamson <
>> philip.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I can see that if the stays allow the room to exit fat tires easily,
>>> then there’s no downside to front facing dropouts over rear facing track
>>> ends (my bike does not, so I’m biased). What are the downsides of rear
>>> facing track ends with fat tires? I’ve never encountered any.
>>>
>>> Philip
>>> Santa Rosa, CA
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[RBW] Re: Adam's Chev on the BLUG

[Joe Bernard]

I dig the slammed Bullmoose and fistful of seatpost, it gives the bike an "it's 
all frame" look that really works for me. I'll have the same seatpost height on 
my 55cm Chev, so I might get the same look with Jones 2.5 Loop bars. It's gonna 
be rad!

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[RBW] Re: FS: Compass Snoqualmie Pass Tires - Pair - Standard Casing - $90 US Shipped

[David B]

Ah! Meant to post on iBOB and not jumble up this list. Oh well, since it's 
posted already, apologies for FS postings lately.
David
River Grove, IL

On Thursday, December 14, 2017 at 2:02:41 PM UTC-6, David B wrote:
>
> Title says it all:
> FS: Compass Snoqualmie Pass Tires - Pair - Standard Casing - $90 shipped 
> conUS
>
> Standard casing, so tan sidewalls, which could use a quick scrub if you 
> need pristine sidewalls, which is to say they're showing a little dirt.
> Minimal tread wear.
>
> $90 shipped, within US, sent USPS Priority.
> Paypal for payment - regular goods method is fine.
> Thanks,
> David
> River Grove, IL
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[RBW] FS: Compass Snoqualmie Pass Tires - Pair - Standard Casing - $90 US Shipped

[David B]

Title says it all:
FS: Compass Snoqualmie Pass Tires - Pair - Standard Casing - $90 shipped 
conUS

Standard casing, so tan sidewalls, which could use a quick scrub if you 
need pristine sidewalls, which is to say they're showing a little dirt.
Minimal tread wear.

$90 shipped, within US, sent USPS Priority.
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Re: [RBW] Thoughts on the new SON Connector-less Dynamo Hub?

[masmojo]

It's really not hard at all to disconnect a dynamo hub, but I still prefer to 
avoid it if at all possible. I'll lay the bike down in the back of my truck, 
rather than remove the wheel & clamp the fork in the bike carrier. Sounds 
ridiculous I know, but there's just that small amount of hassle I choose to 
avoid.

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Re: [RBW] Spitballing: Hunqabeam fixed conversion ideas

[Deacon Patrick]

Justin, Fixed lifestyle? Ha. I’ve no idea what that means. Naught ‘bout me 
lifestyle is changing because me dropouts are rotating 90ish˚. Double grin. The 
shift is entirely selfish, given the benifits to my brain and body. I jest, but 
I think I know what you mean, taking “lifestyle” to be “riding style.” And 
there is a definate difference in style of riding, though in my experience so 
far no particularly significant (to anyone but a racer) difference in time for 
each ride. I suspect I am faster climbing (smoother ride increases traction and 
less having to compensate for deceleration of a freewheel. I also suspect the 
speed difference is small, but of course on a 10 mile climb/descent, 2/3 to 3/4 
of riding time will be on the climb. I know I ride slower down hill, but again 
that has minimal impact on average speed, because dropping from a 30mph average 
to a 25mph average is negligable to anyone but a racer, especially given the 
gains climbing.

Numbers from the Tour de France bear this out. I read somewhere on the 
interwebs (so you know it’s true) that the first year the Tour de France 
allowed freewheels (singlespeed) in addition to fixed the average speed jumped 
a whopping 0.3 or 0.4 mph (or close to that) over the entire 1,500 whatever 
miles of the race. For me, nothing important is lost by losing the freewheel 
and a lot is gained.

I’ve actually considered this jump (to either all ss or fixed) for a number of 
years, but never pulled the trigger because just shifting less on the 
Hunqapillar made it a singlespeed that could shift on the fly. Not the same, 
but close. I didn’t try fixed because I had to try it on a bike I know (even 
handlebars can mess with my brain and I need days to recover, so a whole new 
bike that was fixed? No what to know what was due to what.). So when I did try 
fixed on the Quickbeam, I was ready to jump all in if it worked. It did, and 
here I am. Grin.

Philip, Ha! Aye. Well, I wondered as I confidently rode over miles of slick 
snow on today’s ride if these were conditions that I would have ben far more 
trepedatious in with a freewhell. I make it through 99% of the technical stuff 
that I did on the SS plus I can climb 2% more of the stuff I couldn’t SS, so I 
come out ahead in a way noone cares about. Grin.

Bill, I appreciate the vote of confidence. Grin.  I’d add to that list 
clearence for widish tires of 2.1”. As someone mentioned, I’m getting the 
equivilant of my ideal custom frame for bikepacking and hauling.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: How do you like your Catalyst pedals?

[Jon Dukeman,central Colorado]

I have size 13 shoes and need all the support I can get.
But is gaining .5" in overall length worth the $ 50 more than I paid for my 
MKS Grip Kings??? Maybe I'll give the 30 day guarantee a try in the spring 
if it's still offered.
Jon

On Thursday, December 14, 2017 at 9:18:08 AM UTC-7, Clayton.sf wrote:

> they come with a 30 day money back guarantee.
>
> Clayton Scott
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Re: [RBW] Spitballing: Hunqabeam fixed conversion ideas

[Justin August]

BMC Monstercross but it’s not specifically SS.

-J

On Dec 14, 2017, 10:15 AM -0800, Bill Lindsay , wrote:
> Is there any "good" production bicycle available on planet Earth that is:
>
> 1.  Designed specifically to be a single speed
> 2.  Designed with forward facing rear dropouts
>
> The only bikes I know of that are designed to be single speed and designed 
> with forward facing rear dropouts are beach cruisers.  Are there any 'good' 
> bikes designed that way?
>
> I approve of Deacon Patrick's general plan to trust Riv and trust Nobilette.  
> I also approve of DP's specific plan to run QB-style track ends.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Thursday, December 14, 2017 at 2:48:24 AM UTC-8, Eric Daume wrote:
> > My Karate Monkey has rear facing track ends. Changing the wheel ranges from 
> > a hassle (single speed) to very frustrating (geared) to probably howling 
> > anger (gears + fenders, though I've never used this setup). On the KM, it's 
> > sort of worthwhile for the short chainstays. That's not a concern on the 
> > Hunq.
> >
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > > On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 11:37 PM, Philip Williamson 
> > >  wrote:
> > > > I can see that if the stays allow the room to exit fat tires easily, 
> > > > then there’s no downside to front facing dropouts over rear facing 
> > > > track ends (my bike does not, so I’m biased). What are the downsides of 
> > > > rear facing track ends with fat tires? I’ve never encountered any.
> > > >
> > > > Philip
> > > > Santa Rosa, CA
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Re: [RBW] Spitballing: Hunqabeam fixed conversion ideas

[Bill Lindsay]

Is there any "good" production bicycle available on planet Earth that is:

1.  Designed specifically to be a single speed
2.  Designed with forward facing rear dropouts

The only bikes I know of that are designed to be single speed and designed 
with forward facing rear dropouts are beach cruisers.  Are there any 'good' 
bikes designed that way?

I approve of Deacon Patrick's general plan to trust Riv and trust 
Nobilette.  I also approve of DP's specific plan to run QB-style track 
ends.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Thursday, December 14, 2017 at 2:48:24 AM UTC-8, Eric Daume wrote:
>
> My Karate Monkey has rear facing track ends. Changing the wheel ranges 
> from a hassle (single speed) to very frustrating (geared) to probably 
> howling anger (gears + fenders, though I've never used this setup). On the 
> KM, it's sort of worthwhile for the short chainstays. That's not a concern 
> on the Hunq.
>
>
> Eric
>
> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 11:37 PM, Philip Williamson  > wrote:
>
>> I can see that if the stays allow the room to exit fat tires easily, then 
>> there’s no downside to front facing dropouts over rear facing track ends 
>> (my bike does not, so I’m biased). What are the downsides of rear facing 
>> track ends with fat tires? I’ve never encountered any.
>>
>> Philip
>> Santa Rosa, CA
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Re: [RBW] Spitballing: Hunqabeam fixed conversion ideas

[Justin August]

I’m impressed at your commitment to the fixed lifestyle and going all in with 
no derailleur option.

-Justin

On Dec 14, 2017, 9:40 AM -0800, Deacon Patrick , wrote:
> “Resale value to consider.” You lot are FUNNY! Grin.
>
> Talked with Mark Nobilette. Rear facing dropouts are stronger and he’s going 
> to make them longer (old style), so I’m going with them despite the horror it 
> will cause here. Feel free to ruminate among yourselves. Grin.
>
> I’ve never had an issue with the rear facing drop outs of the Quickbeam and 
> found them easy and convienent, both freewheel and fixed (of course there is 
> a learning curve to “shifting” fixed, but that is true no matter the 
> direction of the dropouts). My guess is anyone daft enough to ride fixed on a 
> loaded Hunqabeam will feel the same way. Grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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Re: [RBW] Spitballing: Hunqabeam fixed conversion ideas

[Deacon Patrick]

“Resale value to consider.” You lot are FUNNY! Grin.

Talked with Mark Nobilette. Rear facing dropouts are stronger and he’s going to 
make them longer (old style), so I’m going with them despite the horror it will 
cause here. Feel free to ruminate among yourselves. Grin.

I’ve never had an issue with the rear facing drop outs of the Quickbeam and 
found them easy and convienent, both freewheel and fixed (of course there is a 
learning curve to “shifting” fixed, but that is true no matter the direction of 
the dropouts). My guess is anyone daft enough to ride fixed on a loaded 
Hunqabeam will feel the same way. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick 

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[RBW] Re: FS Nitto, Schwalbe, Dura Ace, KMC, WTB, Paul, King Cage

[Bruce Smitham]

All these items are SOLD

On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 12:36:29 PM UTC-8, Bruce Smitham wrote:
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> Another SOLD update and still available
>
> On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 10:52:29 AM UTC-8, Bruce Smitham wrote:
>>
>> Update on SOLD items:
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 8:17:25 AM UTC-8, Bruce Smitham wrote:
>>>
>>> For sale are some components that I was going to use to build up a 
>>> project but never got around to it. Prices don't include shipping in the 
>>> CONUS but I'll do my best to keep them low with my expert packing.
>>>
>>> SOLD Nitto Albatross handlebars (steel) in great shape with small amount 
>>> of bar tape residue $45
>>> SOLD Schwalbe G-One pair(2) tires in good condition. 700 x 38mm tubeless 
>>> ready in good condition. Some tread wear in center (little more on the 
>>> rear) $40
>>> SOLD Shimano Dura Ace 9 speed bar end shifters (New in package) $75
>>> SOLD KMC X10.93 10 speed chain (New in package) $15
>>> SOLD WTB saddle (New) $35
>>> SOLD Paul Thumbies silver 22.2mm (New in package) $45
>>> Jagwire road brake cables (front & rear) for Campagnolo (New in package) 
>>> $5 for both
>>> SOLD Shimano Mountain brake levers R550 sliver in great condition with 
>>> some shelacking on underside $5
>>> Ritchey Snap On rim tap (for 2 wheels) 700 c 17mm (New in package) $3
>>> King Cage Top Cap Cage Mount (New) $6
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Bruce in San Diego
>>>
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[RBW] Re: How do you like your Catalyst pedals?

[Clayton.sf]

they come with a 30 day money back guarantee.

Clayton Scott
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[RBW] Re: Adam's Chev on the BLUG

[RichS]

Kudos to Adam on his Chev. Wow! That is a truly distinctive and fun looking 
bike.

Best,
Richard

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[RBW] Re: Roadinis could be arriving any day now?

[lum gim fong]

 I wish that they would run a short run of a super lightweight Flexi road 
model. They do short runs of bikes like this and the Bubbe it would be cool if 
they did a super Flexi light one one day. Would be cool to see what they make 
in that style.
 Yes I know that's not their thing so please don't flame I already know. Just 
expressing a wish.

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Re: [RBW] Thoughts on the new SON Connector-less Dynamo Hub?

[lum gim fong]

I like the widebody deluxe. Works really well and has that nice feature that 
keeps the damp out of the works. Looks really nice too.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fixed Flywheel for the Brain

[Patrick Moore]

When climbing very steep hills, the actual advantage is 100% of the imagined 
advantage, ime.

Patrick Moore
iPhone

> On Dec 13, 2017, at 9:53 PM, Philip Williamson wrote:
> 
> Clipped in, Patrick, you can absolutely generate more forward progress by 
> pulling up on the back foot  The actual advantage is about 20% of the 
> imagined advantage. 

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Re: [RBW] Thoughts on the new SON Connector-less Dynamo Hub?

[Peter White]

I've been importing, selling and using them since 1998 and I still
occasionally forget to disconnect the wires before flipping the QR and
dropping the wheel out, leaving it hanging by the wires. Duh.

PJW

On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 8:50 AM, 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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> My custom MAP has a connectionless SON. Quick release type. It does
> require a custom fork. The jury is still out on mine but I definitely love
> the ease of wheel removal, although my wired SON on the Hilsen is not a
> problem. It takes a second to make sure the wire connections are oriented
> correctly when changing the tire but it's not an issue at all. However,
> when very tired, while riding a brevet, it can be easy to forget there are
> connectors (at least for someone as dumb as me) and you can forget to
> disconnect/connect them. But a custom fork is required for the
> connectionless, no matter how you slice it.
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[RBW] Re: How do you like your Catalyst pedals?

[lum gim fong]

Interesting question.
Would be interested to know why they fell out of use if they were around 
before. That might save time and $$$ in trying them today  if it was a legit 
reason

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[RBW] Re: How do you like your Catalyst pedals?

[EasyRider]

I'm not quite ready to give these a go, though I'm sure I'd dig them. For 
the time being, I'm a little more curious about their antecedents. Most of 
my favorite things about my bikes, much of which I learned about via 
Rivendell, are "old" innovations. Were pedals like the Catalyst around 
before, and fall out of favor?

On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 11:26:26 AM UTC-5, Palmer wrote:
>
> Hi Jon,
> I had grip kings a few years ago and did not like them when wet in the 
> least. Th ecatalyst are much better even when dry.
> Tom Palmer
> Twin Lake, MI
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 10:27:17 AM UTC-5, Jon Dukeman,central 
> Colorado wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone switched from MKS Grip King to Catalyst?
>
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[RBW] Thoughts on the new SON Connector-less Dynamo Hub?

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

My custom MAP has a connectionless SON. Quick release type. It does require a 
custom fork. The jury is still out on mine but I definitely love the ease of 
wheel removal, although my wired SON on the Hilsen is not a problem. It takes a 
second to make sure the wire connections are oriented correctly when changing 
the tire but it's not an issue at all. However, when very tired, while riding a 
brevet, it can be easy to forget there are connectors (at least for someone as 
dumb as me) and you can forget to disconnect/connect them. But a custom fork is 
required for the connectionless, no matter how you slice it.

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[RBW] Re: Roadinis could be arriving any day now?

[Belopsky]

What I wish was also mentioned was 'stack and reach'.
It's 'easy' to plug these numbers into a CAD program (bikecad, rattlecad) 
to find them, but seems like a really quick thing for RBW to start 
including as well.

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Re: [RBW] Spitballing: Hunqabeam fixed conversion ideas

[Eric Daume]

My Karate Monkey has rear facing track ends. Changing the wheel ranges from
a hassle (single speed) to very frustrating (geared) to probably howling
anger (gears + fenders, though I've never used this setup). On the KM, it's
sort of worthwhile for the short chainstays. That's not a concern on the
Hunq.


Eric

On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 11:37 PM, Philip Williamson <
philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I can see that if the stays allow the room to exit fat tires easily, then
> there’s no downside to front facing dropouts over rear facing track ends
> (my bike does not, so I’m biased). What are the downsides of rear facing
> track ends with fat tires? I’ve never encountered any.
>
> Philip
> Santa Rosa, CA
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