Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse "went to go-fast 700c rando machines many years ago for a good reason"?

Lum: I can't say I've experienced planing either, but I'm curious what you attribute the Ram's feeling of easier pedaling to? It's not setup; overall weight? Wheel weight? Tires? Loads? Position and fit? On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 1:57 PM, lum gim fong wrote: > ... > I have

Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse "went to go-fast 700c rando machines many years ago for a good reason"?

Interesting again. I can't say that my 28 mm actual Elk Passes feel slower than 22 mm actual Conti GPs (559 and 571 versions), or 571 Michelin Pro Race 3s and 4s, or in fact the very nice 559 X1" and 22 mm actual Specialized Turbo, when that was available; in fact, while feeling cushier (and of

Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse "went to go-fast 700c rando machines many years ago for a good reason"?

On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 1:57 PM, lum gim fong wrote: > What does the flexing actually feel like? > > I have ridden a Bleriot, Sam, and Rambouillet. > > When I am fit, they all feel fast. > When I am not, sometimes the Sam and Bleriot felt like I could not get out > of my

Re: [RBW] Re: 3-Speed MTBing Resources?

Brian: As far as I know, the old SA axles work fine in modern dropouts with the old rotation washers; I've used 2 types of these, heavy, serrated washers and the type with extensions that fit into the dropout slot. I don't recall ever having to replace the old ones with new ones. FWIW, I was told

[RBW] Re: WTB 60 Quickbeam or SimpleOne

Will send you a PM on a green one, 60 cm. --Tom On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 3:26:38 PM UTC-5, nathan wrote: > > I got excited about the Frank concept and was ready to buy, but sadly > couldn't snag a 59 in time. > > So… is anyone selling a 60 Quickbeam or SimpleOne? I'd be able to pickup

[RBW] Re: Real ride comparison: Joe Appaloosa vs Sam Hillborne vs Roadini?

On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 3:35:40 PM UTC-5, Jonathan wrote: ..with the Sam I fit right in the middle of the recommended PBH range. On top of that, you get more tire clearance, more braze-ons, and more lugs. I feel like that last bit is important to consider... They're not just any

[RBW] Re: If you have ever lusted after Woody fenders . . .

Ann, How do the components hold up in all that salty riding? Any secrets/tips? I'd like to ride more but fear the road salts. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

[RBW] Re: Real ride comparison: Joe Appaloosa vs Sam Hillborne vs Roadini?

I'm not sure I would characterize the Roadini as fulfilling the role of a "stripped down racing bike" at least not in the modern sense (where that term is redundant). With room for 35mm tires and with fender braze-ons, it's more like a regular sport touring bike from the 1960s, 1970s. And that

[RBW] WTB: 170 or 177.2mm crankset for single speed build

110bcd, 130 or 50.4 if you have a Pro 5 Vis. Japanese would be nice to go along with the Nitto/Suzue/Dia Compe bits that are going on the bike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] Re: Big cassettes/Do I need a wolftooth roadlink or similar

On Wednesday, 20 December 2017 06:40:12 UTC+11, Tim Gavin wrote: > > I agree, Jim. Totally valid but a "pro tip". > > It also depends on the rear derailleur; some MTB RDs have enough chain > takeup for a very long chain. > > On my Riv ('97 Road Standard), I have a 52/42/30 road triple and an

[RBW] If you have ever lusted after Woody fenders . . .

I dig woodies and someone here gave me a pair a couple years ago. I never mounted them before selling that bike and now don't have a 26” wheel bike to put them on. Someday! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

[RBW] Re: If you have ever lusted after Woody fenders . . .

I'd love to see pic of the San Marcos with the Woody fenders. How do the Woodys hold up in the weather? Have you ever ridden with them on a slushy salt treated road? On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 7:30:14 PM UTC-5, Ann L wrote: > > They are having a holiday sale with $27 to $37 off. I have

[RBW] Re: Question about the 'downtube shifter stop washers'

^Correct, they are about 2x. Chris at The Granary may still have the 10 speed for $59 http://www.thegranarybicyclecompany.com/product/dura-ace-sl-7900-down-tube-shifters/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

[RBW] If you have ever lusted after Woody fenders . . .

They are having a holiday sale with $27 to $37 off. I have them on my San Marcos and love them. I just placed an order for my Appaloosa. https://www.woodysfenders.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

[RBW] My low-trail Atlantis is coming up for sale...

A price does seem in order here. Since the bike is posted in detail with pics, it's not really accurate to present as "going to be up for sale." It's for sale. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

[RBW] Re: Question about the 'downtube shifter stop washers'

8-speed. You'll need the much pricier Dura-Ace dt levers for 9 if you can find some. I don't think they're in production anymore. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

[RBW] Re: Question about the 'downtube shifter stop washers'

Will these shifters work with a nine speed cassette? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

[RBW] Re: Question about the 'downtube shifter stop washers'

Shimano Tiagra R550 Flat Bar Brake Levers Shimano Tiagra R451 Road Brake Caliper The 4600 Tiagra line is not bad, the 4700 is a bit more gray/silver but also not bad. On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 7:06:21 PM UTC-5, Belopsky wrote: > > Lets turn this into a "affordable silver parts"

[RBW] Re: Question about the 'downtube shifter stop washers'

Lets turn this into a "affordable silver parts" thread Shimano R400 brake levers Shimano FD-R440 front derailleur R400 downtube shifters What else we got? Is there a crank that fits this group well? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: Real ride comparison: Joe Appaloosa vs Sam Hillborne vs Roadini?

Bill speaks wisely. I also bought a Roadini frameset (pre-order frenzy always gets me), even though I also owned a Black Mountain Cycles road bike. Functionally, they are almost identical. If I could do it all over again, I would probably buy a Sam instead of a Roadini for all of the reasons

[RBW] Re: Frank Jones, latest Knothole post

Glad to hear you pulled the trigger, after all that. Congratulations On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 2:51:23 PM UTC-7, Belopsky wrote: > > they said its a homer blue and thats what i ordered > >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: fs: Brooks B17 Imperial + Nitto Noodles 46cm + Grand Cru seatpost + Dimension stem

Seatpost is SOLD! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Frank Jones, latest Knothole post

I'm just catching up - but that sounds like what i expected to happen with the 59. Glad I didn't want one, because work would have kept me away at the crucial moment - not unlike trying to sign my kids up for after-school clubs. Such a bummer that Grant couldn't get one though. I'm not

[RBW] Re: Frank Jones, latest Knothole post

57cm Blue, I don't understand the preference for silver, but it worked out for me. Now I need to order some rims to lace to the NOS Campy hubs - definitely polished finish on the rims. I also have an NOS Spidel Crankset (French Campy copy that is actually nicer - it is finished on the backside

[RBW] fs: Brooks B17 Imperial + Nitto Noodles 46cm + Grand Cru seatpost + Dimension stem

Four items for sale! *1) **Brooks B17 Imperial*. Very nice shape, approx 1k miles. I'll include a Brooks wrench.* $70 shipped in CONUS*. https://flic.kr/p/HJcXBD https://flic.kr/p/D2HZbX https://flic.kr/p/21kbgSP https://flic.kr/p/HJcXRM https://flic.kr/p/ExFob3 https://flic.kr/p/21kbh64

[RBW] Re: Frank Jones, latest Knothole post

they said its a homer blue and thats what i ordered On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 4:03:53 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: > > The blue is pretty. It reminds me of the old Ram color, although I think > it's an old Hilsen hue. Alas, I'm all full up on on bikes with my 2-speed > Cheviot and Bike

[RBW] Re: Frank Jones, latest Knothole post

The blue is pretty. It reminds me of the old Ram color, although I think it's an old Hilsen hue. Alas, I'm all full up on on bikes with my 2-speed Cheviot and Bike Friday cargo bikes on the way. Enjoy, Jonesers! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] Re: Rene Herse "went to go-fast 700c rando machines many years ago for a good reason"?

What does the flexing actually feel like? I have ridden a Bleriot, Sam, and Rambouillet. When I am fit, they all feel fast. When I am not, sometimes the Sam and Bleriot felt like I could not get out of my own way on hills. With the Rambouillet, I feel like the pedals are easier to turn. Like

[RBW] Re: Frank Jones, latest Knothole post

On Saturday, December 16, 2017 at 4:13:36 PM UTC-8, iamkeith wrote: > > > >"But with long (and slanted!) track ends, why not fixed? What am I > missing?" > > I had to read it a couple of times to understand, not being a fixed gear > rider. Basically, he's saying there's too much chance of

[RBW] Re: Frank Jones, latest Knothole post

I'm too tall for 'em but just wanted to see additional pics and the 59cm showed sold out only about 5 mins past the hour. On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 3:09:26 PM UTC-5, Belopsky wrote: > > Interesting - there were 5 total did the 59 really go that quick? > > On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at

[RBW] My low-trail Atlantis is coming up for sale...

Did I miss the price? Matt B Oswego, IL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

[RBW] Re: Frank Jones, latest Knothole post

they said, absolutely, positively, there will not be another run. This was at least 1 year in the making and Blue Lug for 2/3s of them -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

[RBW] Re: Real ride comparison: Joe Appaloosa vs Sam Hillborne vs Roadini?

I was in a similar situation to you a couple months ago. I have a Joe that I love, but I wanted a Rivendell for longer, faster road rides. I chose to pre-order a Sam mainly because of the sizing issue that you referenced in your other thread. Like you, I have an 89cm PBH. My 58 Appaloosa fits

[RBW] Re: Frank Jones, latest Knothole post

I had my LBS order a 55, but I think I was too late to get the silver one (my preference). That was fast. Oh well, the blue looks nice, too. Now here's the fun question - do I build it up as a single speed or a 3-speed IGH? On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 12:05:07 PM UTC-8, Belopsky wrote: >

Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse "went to go-fast 700c rando machines many years ago for a good reason"?

I'm 210 lbs and just about every bike I get on seems to "plane" for me, and I think its because my weight makes nearly every bike flex for me in the right way. Ty On Monday, December 18, 2017 at 3:13:06 PM UTC-8, M G wrote: > > Eno eccentric for the boulder (i tried for a little while to use

[RBW] Re: Real ride comparison: Joe Appaloosa vs Sam Hillborne vs Roadini?

Hi Bob, Not quite the comparison you requested, but I have a 55cm Joe appaloosa built up with dropbars, a 60cm saluki (which seems functionally similar to the hillborne) and a 61cm Romulus (which seems functionally similar to the roadini). Their respective weights are 37lbs, 32 lbs and 24lbs

[RBW] Re: Frank Jones, latest Knothole post

Maybe they'll do another run. I wonder how many to make it worthwhile? On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 3:06:28 PM UTC-5, Clayton.sf wrote: > > Sucks. Had it in the cart and once I hit submit after entering payment it > said inventory issues. > > Oh well. > > Clayton Scott > SF, CA > >

[RBW] WTB 60 Quickbeam or SimpleOne

I got excited about the Frank concept and was ready to buy, but sadly couldn't snag a 59 in time. So… is anyone selling a 60 Quickbeam or SimpleOne? I'd be able to pickup in SF or Reno-Tahoe, and would consider shipping too. Nathan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[RBW] Re: Frank Jones, latest Knothole post

Interesting - there were 5 total did the 59 really go that quick? On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 3:06:28 PM UTC-5, Clayton.sf wrote: > > Sucks. Had it in the cart and once I hit submit after entering payment it > said inventory issues. > > Oh well. > > Clayton Scott > SF, CA > > On Tuesday,

[RBW] Re: Frank Jones, latest Knothole post

Sucks. Had it in the cart and once I hit submit after entering payment it said inventory issues. Oh well. Clayton Scott SF, CA On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 11:47:01 AM UTC-8, Belopsky wrote: > > well its announced, get your finger ready for the 12pm pst post > > On Tuesday, December 19,

[RBW] Re: Frank Jones, latest Knothole post

Well, I ordered the 53. I was hoping to see geometry for the 55 but I think the 53 is right. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Real ride comparison: Joe Appaloosa vs Sam Hillborne vs Roadini?

Thanks Bill! You do remind me of a friend, a co-worker, in Denver. I would have spent far too long overanalyzing something, usually which bike to keep, sell, modify, build a different way, etc. I would tell him of my dilemma, whatever it was, expecting at least a delay in his response while

[RBW] Re: Frank Jones, latest Knothole post

well its announced, get your finger ready for the 12pm pst post On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 1:44:50 PM UTC-5, Ken Yokanovich wrote: > > Anxiously awaiting any announcement. Finger exercises and stretching for > quick-click reaction time so I can buy one as a LONG awaited replacement > for

Re: [RBW] Re: Big cassettes/Do I need a wolftooth roadlink or similar

I agree, Jim. Totally valid but a "pro tip". It also depends on the rear derailleur; some MTB RDs have enough chain takeup for a very long chain. On my Riv ('97 Road Standard), I have a 52/42/30 road triple and an 11-34 cassette. The Shimano RD-M772-SGS (long cage) can handle enough chain for

[RBW] Re: Real ride comparison: Joe Appaloosa vs Sam Hillborne vs Roadini?

My main 'real world road bike' is my Sam Hillborne. I have a stipped down racing bike that resembles a Roadini, a Black Mountain Road bike. If your application requires a stripped down racing bike, the Roadini is more like that. Let's say hypothetically you built up a Roadini with a light

[RBW] Re: Real ride comparison: Joe Appaloosa vs Sam Hillborne vs Roadini?

Thanks Ed. That helps a lot, as well as the comments from others. Question(s) - From a sizing standpoint, did you fit in the middle of the PBH recommendations for a particular size (of the Roadini) or were you on the outer edge of those recommendations (where you could have gone with either a

Re: [RBW] Re: Big cassettes/Do I need a wolftooth roadlink or similar

Big-Big only if you have a double. On a triple, if you use your gears contentiously, you'd never ride big-big anyway. (This advice for RBWers and other experienced riders only, FWIW). I'm using combinations past the capacity of the my current derailer so the only real requirement in my mind is

[RBW] Re: Real ride comparison: Joe Appaloosa vs Sam Hillborne vs Roadini?

I was in a similar situation: I have a Joe and was looking for "something else" to complement it. I ended up getting a Roadini instead of the Sam since I thought there was too much overlap between the Sam and the Joe. (To be fair, I haven't ridden the Sam.) I peeked at the Roadeo but don't ride

[RBW] Re: Frank Jones, latest Knothole post

Anxiously awaiting any announcement. Finger exercises and stretching for quick-click reaction time so I can buy one as a LONG awaited replacement for my dearly departed Quickbeam. On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 10:32:08 AM UTC-6, Belopsky wrote: > > The real question is - will we see more

[RBW] My low-trail Atlantis is coming up for sale...

Hello all and Happy Holidays! As part of my ongoing journey with life and cycling and other stuff, the next step in downsizing has arrived. The short story is that I'm going to put my custom fork low-trail 61cm Atlantis (custom painted) for sale. I know the odds of selling it complete are very

[RBW] Re: FS: Albastache, Nitto, Brooks, B+M, Sugino, MKS, Tektro, tubes, tires, etc.

Updated list and new deal. 5% off everything. 10% off total if you buy 2 things. 20% if you buy 3 -Clever Cycles Tire Levers/Chain quick link tool- really cool levers that link together to make a chain quick link remover. the company only sells these in sets of three, im offering one set here

Re: [RBW] Re: Big cassettes/Do I need a wolftooth roadlink or similar

Drew- To be clear; you will need to lengthen the chain and possibly the cables when you install the larger cassette. Big cog to big chainring, plus two links. Benz is trying to say that you can do those things without the Roadlink, and that installing the Roadlink shouldn't change those

[RBW] Re: Big cassettes/Do I need a wolftooth roadlink or similar

ah, i didnt realize it wouldn't need chain and cable lengthening. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: WTT - Nitto Dirt Drop 10cm stem (26.0) new in package for 8cm

> > Same specs as the one sold from Riv (i.e. quill length)? Is it in good > shape? Send me a pic. > Thanks, Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

Re: [RBW] Re: 3-Speed MTBing Resources?

> > Revisiting this thread with a slight deviation but still 3 speed related >> and hoping those of you with more Sturmey Archer 3 speeding experience may >> help clarify: >> >> Are vintage SA rear hubs axles compatible with modern 10mm horizontals by >> simply replacing with appropriately

[RBW] Re: WTT - Thompson seatpost

On Monday, December 18, 2017 at 9:54:53 PM UTC-5, Tony DeFilippo wrote: > > I've got a nice silver Thomson Elite setback seatpost and I'd prefer a > zero setback post... Silver or black, doesn't have to be extra long though > my current position is uncut and quite long. > > I can pull it to

[RBW] Re: Frank Jones, latest Knothole post

The real question is - will we see more about the Frank today? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Question about the 'downtube shifter stop washers'

Great, thanks for that Bill. I understand that typically they come with the baggie - I found overseas some shifters for a good price $15-16USD bit without the base washers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

[RBW] Re: Frank Jones, latest Knothole post

Frankly, Jay, Ones enough. Okay, I'm (d)one. On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 8:15:44 AM UTC-8, Mark in Beacon wrote: > > Not completely random. It has a hidden message: Frank J(ones). Frank J. > Ones. One's enough. One speed. Okay, maybe a stretch. I should go do some > bike maintenance. > >

[RBW] Re: Frank Jones, latest Knothole post

Not completely random. It has a hidden message: Frank J(ones). Frank J. Ones. One's enough. One speed. Okay, maybe a stretch. I should go do some bike maintenance. On Saturday, December 16, 2017 at 10:03:53 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: > > I love that the Blue Lug people were like, "Yeah,

[RBW] Re: Question about the 'downtube shifter stop washers'

No. Silver downtube stop washers are not compatible with Shimano downtube shifters. Your photo, of a set of Shimano downtube shifters, has a little baggie of hardware on the left. The curve profile base washers in that baggie serve the function of stop-washers on Shimano downtube shifters.

[RBW] Question about the 'downtube shifter stop washers'

Would they work with the Shimano R400 shifters? These: https://www.rivbike.com/collections/shifting/products/silver-shifter-downtube-stop-washer-pair With these: [image: Image result for r400 sora] I am looking at stocking up on a few bits. I recently bought 4 Tiagra R440 front derailleurs

[RBW] Re: WTT - Thompson seatpost

Julian - Great question. I was thinking about that on my ride in realizing I hadn't given enough info. It's for my Saluki, and the setback one I own is currently installed on that bike so I'll caliper it when I get home to double check. A quick look at Riv's site didn't turn up the seatpost

[RBW] Re: WTT - Thompson seatpost

Tony, what size seat post do you have/want? 26.8? 27.2? 27.4? or? Julian Westerhout Bloomington, IL On Monday, December 18, 2017 at 8:54:53 PM UTC-6, Tony DeFilippo wrote: > > I've got a nice silver Thomson Elite setback seatpost and I'd prefer a > zero setback post... Silver or black,

[RBW] Re: Big cassettes/Do I need a wolftooth roadlink or similar

On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 2:13:38 AM UTC+8, drew wrote: > > Interesting all around. I'm trying to save myself having to set it up and > then order a roadlink, wait for delivery and re set up. I'm just excited to > ride this bike and not wanting to wait. > Anyway, I just ordered the