Re: [RBW] Play in an unweighted pedal

[Ed Fausto]

Hi Patrick,
I checked for play by moving the axle in different direction and both
left/right pedals are solid.
Ed Fausto

On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 7:04 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

> It sounds to me like a thing that isn't a problem, it's just annoying once
> you've noticed it. WHY DID I NOTICE THIS??
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Re: [RBW] Play in an unweighted pedal

[Ed Fausto]

Hi Patrick,
I just installed a pair of those Catalyst pedals and just did 22km of
pavement going to my office this morning.
But I did not notice any play during that short ride.
Will check my pair and give feedback.
Thanks,
Ed Fausto

On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 5:59 AM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> The axel has play in all directions. More on one pedal, less on the other.
> All innards are in exccellent shape, so a rebuild kit is unnecessary (but
> was offered by Pedaling Innovations).
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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[RBW] Re: Gearing for Quickbeam

['Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hi Alan, Deacon is The Man of course. But here is what I did with my Q 
gearing: I used 39/45 chainrings with a 17/21 Dingle and a 23T on the flip 
side of the hub. That gave me 5 useable gears from 46 to 72 inches. Like 
Minh I most often chose a gear and stayed there for the entire ride.  
https://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/2760281945/in/album-72157607471577085/
Since that picture and description my tires have grown to 32 or 35mm width 
(& thus my gear inches have increased a bit) and I am using freewheels 
instead of fixed. Fixed is pure and all that; freewheels are...well, free.

Joe in GJT

On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 2:06:23 PM UTC-6, alan lavine wrote:

> Hi All,
> Changing a few things on a new to me QB, and was wondering how others have 
> them set up. For the rear I have a 17/21 dingle that I want to use, but 
> haven't decided about the front. Single or double chainring? 
> Would love to hear what others have used, and for what purpose, I.e. 
> around town, touring, climbing, etc.  My use would be mostly around town, 
> occasional 30-40 mile rides with moderate climbs, but no off road use. 
>  Maybe CC tours in the future.
> Also, how often do you actually change the gears? I wonder if I'd be too 
> lazy to do it often, and just use a geared bike when needed.  So maybe a 
> single up front and dingle in the rear would suffice.
>
> Thanks,
> Alan
> NYC
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: IRD 8-speed [13-40] Wide Range Cassette

[dougP]

"I'll bet you mean 12-14-16-18-21-24-28-32."

You win that bet.  Thanks for correction.  Foiled again by fumbling fat 
fingers.

dougP

On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 2:01:39 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
>
>
> On 04/05/2018 12:38 PM, dougP wrote: 
> > "I does make me curious what others may think is the ideal spacing 
> > between cogs when climbing and shifting down while attempting to 
> > maintain a somewhat constant cadence." 
>
> That sure depends a lot on the terrain, how much and how fast it 
> changes, and how much you and your load weigh.I like 1-tooth 
> differences up at the top end, 2-tooth in the middle going to 3 for the 
> last few on most of my bikes, but there are a couple that seem happier 
> with spacing more like 
>
> > 
> > I've never run more than 8 (and always a triple), so pretty far behind 
> > current thinking.  For general use & touring, 2 tooth jumps between 
> > the smallest cogs, going to 3 in the middle & 4 for the last couple 
> > shifts well and doesn't feel like stepping into a hole.  
> > 12-14-26-28-21-24-28-32 (or 34) meets my needs. 
>
> I'll bet you mean 12-14-16-18-21-24-28-32.  I have a customized version 
> of that cassette (substituting a 1st position 13 for the 12) on my Jack 
> Taylor, where it works very nicely. 
>
> > I was cautious about the 28 to 34 being too big but it shifts well and 
> > actually feels like a good change.  Sometimes the 28 to 32 doesn't 
> > feel like much of a change.  Chainrings are 24-34-44, with 700 x 40 
> > tires. 
> > 
>
> It feels fine to me, but then most of mine have 3-tooth steps at the low 
> gear end.  And, as it happens, 36x32 is just fine for most of the steep 
> terrain where I ride.  I have a 24T granny ring, but only get to use it 
> maybe once a month or so. 
>
>
> -- 
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> Alexandria, Virginia 
> USA 
>
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[RBW] Gearing for Quickbeam

[Kainalu V.]

I had a 16/19 W.I. freewheel with 40 up front. I never used the 19.
-Kai
BK NY 

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Re: [RBW] FS: Pashley Clubman 54.5-56

[Joe Bernard]

Thanks, Chris! It's a great traditional road bike, and pretty rare on this side 
of the pond. The original MSRP of almost $3k was a little ridiculous, so I 
doubt they ever sold many..this version seems to be out of production now. 

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[RBW] Re: Newbaums on Sam Hillborne

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Very cool. I like your style!

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Re: [RBW] FS: Pashley Clubman 54.5-56

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Nice bike Joe!  Always liked the Clubman and love your set up. I did my 
Quickbeam like that. Didn’t know you had that bike

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[RBW] FS: MUSA Kinckers

[Shawn Granton]

FOR SALE: MUSA (Rivendell) knickers, grey with blue accents, size XL. Maybe 
five years old, uses Velcro straps for bottom enclosures. In good 
condition, but has a patch and a stain. Asking $30 for local pickup in 
Portland (either in Woodlawn in NE or on Hawthorne in SE.) Or I can ship, 
you pay $8 shipping for anywhere in the US. (I can ship to other countries, 
but it will cost more.) Contact me via PM if you are interested.  

Photos here: 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/urbanadventureleaguepdx/albums/72157667476310518

yours,
Shawn

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 56cm 650b Hunqapillar Frame and Fork

[Stephen W.]

Clayton,
   Got it and responded. 

Best,

Stephen

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Re: [RBW] Play in an unweighted pedal

[Joe Bernard]

It sounds to me like a thing that isn't a problem, it's just annoying once 
you've noticed it. WHY DID I NOTICE THIS??

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[RBW] Re: Gearing for Quickbeam

[Minh]

alan, i don't have much to add from what patrick has posted.  and this is 
my opinion only but this kinda feedback is pretty useless, its one of those 
cases where you have to find what works best for you because it really 
depends on what shape you're in and what style you like to ride.  some 
people hate grinding up hills at a pace you could walk faster at, some 
people hate coasting, etc.  

you just have to find your own zen on the bike, that's the best thing about 
the QB/SO bikes that's different from my other Riv, you can try to force it 
to be something it's not but the best riding is to let it come to you.

that will end my personal philosophy lesson about riding the QB.  

minh, who just walked in after a spirited ride grinding up some hills on 
his QB.  

FWIW i run a 40/32 up front and a 17/19 out back, i almost never change out 
of the 40/17, find the changes enough of a PITA that i don't do it.

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Re: [RBW] Play in an unweighted pedal

[Deacon Patrick]

The axel has play in all directions. More on one pedal, less on the other. All 
innards are in exccellent shape, so a rebuild kit is unnecessary (but was 
offered by Pedaling Innovations).

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Play in an unweighted pedal

[Benz, Sunnyvale, CA]

When you say "play", what do you mean? It is up/down, aka vertical play, or 
lateral play?

If your Pedaling Innovations pedals  are 
anything like the other commonly available VP pedals (and it does look that 
way), there isn't really anything to adjust, because it doesn't use loose 
balls like a MKS pedal (for example). Instead, it uses a few cartridge 
bearings and a sleeve or roller bearing 
 on 
the inboard side. The breakdown of these pedals are explained in this rebuild 
video . From the video, and from inspection of 
my "Clem Smith" pedals 
, 
it is clear that the bearings are held in by the physical dimensions of the 
spindle, and there doesn't appear to be any allowance to adjust the 
bearings, vertically or laterally, by design. It is also clear that the 
dust cap doesn't really do anything structural.

It may be worthwhile for you to see if there's any rebuild kits available 
for your Pedaling Innovations pedals, or if the ones offered by VP fit your 
needs. At least for the inboard side, the spindle is used as a bearing 
surface, so if that part is worn, you may be out of luck (except maybe 
trying to retrofit parts from the aforementioned cheapy Clem Smith pedals 
onto your Pedaling Innovations pedals).

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[RBW] Re: Play in an unweighted pedal

[Lum Gim Fong]

Shoot an email over to Catalyst and ask if it is supposed to be that way.

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[RBW] WTT: my 58 Bosco for your albatross

[A. Nostuh]

I have fairly new 58 aluminum heat treated Bosco bar, looking for aluminum heat 
treated albatross 

For trade


Thanks 
Al

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Re: [RBW] Play in an unweighted pedal

[Deacon Patrick]

Thanks, Jon. They fully disassembled them,inspected all bits, greased, and 
reassembled.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Homer Hilsen stolen in San Francisco

[David Hays]

Certainly doesn't look like a 56 as here's mine. Just looking at the head 
tube.
David Hays
Buffalo, New York




On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 4:43:45 PM UTC-4, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>
> Have to agree - that ad is kind of weird.  Left brake lever is kind of 
> "bonked" in a bit. Even though they specify 56, it looks a tad smaller in 
> the photos. 
>
> I supposed it could be a relative or non-knowledgeable person selling for 
> the original owner, but it's reasonably light on details and Riv-love.  You 
> could cobble the text together after a quick google search or two. 
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 12:10:47 PM UTC-7, Edwin W wrote:
>>
>> What do you find fishy about the ad? Except for their poor understanding 
>> of the difference between "your" and "you're" of course.
>>
>> Priced high, pictures of several potentially unique aspects of the bike, 
>> and a posted serial number.
>>
>> What made you think it might be the stolen one? The "powder blue?" I 
>> couldn't tell on my computer monitor with those pictures if there was 
>> anything unique about the color.
>>
>> Edwin
>>
>> On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 12:56:28 PM UTC-5, C Sharp wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Tom, 
>>>
>>> Is this your bike? This CL ad seems fishy to me. 
>>>
>>>
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/rivendell-homer-hilsen/6549937327.html
>>>  
>>>
>>> Best of luck, 
>>> Cameron 
>>> Brooklyn
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Play in an unweighted pedal

[Jon Dukeman,central Colorado]

Patrick
I hope they didn't just  take off the dust cap and shoot some grease in 
there and called it good. They should of made the adjustment to eliminate 
the play and tighten the nut. I'd take them back and ask.
Jon

On Wednesday, April 4, 2018 at 6:50:28 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

> Thanks, Bill. I will check the dust caps. However the pedals went to the 
> shop with play and returned with play, having been disassembled and 
> serviced inside.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: IRD 8-speed [13-40] Wide Range Cassette

[Steve Palincsar]

On 04/05/2018 12:38 PM, dougP wrote:
"I does make me curious what others may think is the ideal spacing 
between cogs when climbing and shifting down while attempting to 
maintain a somewhat constant cadence."


That sure depends a lot on the terrain, how much and how fast it 
changes, and how much you and your load weigh.    I like 1-tooth 
differences up at the top end, 2-tooth in the middle going to 3 for the 
last few on most of my bikes, but there are a couple that seem happier 
with spacing more like




I've never run more than 8 (and always a triple), so pretty far behind 
current thinking.  For general use & touring, 2 tooth jumps between 
the smallest cogs, going to 3 in the middle & 4 for the last couple 
shifts well and doesn't feel like stepping into a hole.  
12-14-26-28-21-24-28-32 (or 34) meets my needs.


I'll bet you mean 12-14-16-18-21-24-28-32.  I have a customized version 
of that cassette (substituting a 1st position 13 for the 12) on my Jack 
Taylor, where it works very nicely.


I was cautious about the 28 to 34 being too big but it shifts well and 
actually feels like a good change.  Sometimes the 28 to 32 doesn't 
feel like much of a change.  Chainrings are 24-34-44, with 700 x 40 
tires.




It feels fine to me, but then most of mine have 3-tooth steps at the low 
gear end.  And, as it happens, 36x32 is just fine for most of the steep 
terrain where I ride.  I have a 24T granny ring, but only get to use it 
maybe once a month or so.



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[RBW] Two April Events In Portland, Oregon

[John A. Bennett]

*Rivelo, *Rivendell's Portland/OR/NW dealer, is hosting two events at the 
shop in April. Both are on *Saturday*s. 

*April 21 (1-4PM) : Randi Jo Fabrications Trunk Show. *Randi & Eric from 
RJF will be "in the house" with lots of items for immediate sale. We're 
also hoping to debut our 4th Rivelo / Randi Jo Limited Edition cap. This 
one is fully lined waxed cotton. Half with ear flaps, half with an 
adjustable back. We'll be serving Elk Claws from Elkton, Oregon...and 
coffee. 

*April 28 (12-4PM) Grant Petersen visit.* Hand-grip makin' demo. Informal Q 
& A. If the timing works, we'll have the new RBW bike & frame catalog 
available, too! Lite refreshments. Stop by Rivelo to enter a drawing to 
join the Rivelo crew and Grant for dinner immediately afterward. 

Details and regular updates on our Instagram 
account: https://www.instagram.com/rivelo_pdx/

IF you live in these parts, it would be great to see you on *one or both* 
of these Saturdays.

John & Darby

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[RBW] Gearing for Quickbeam

[Deacon Patrick]

Congratulation, Alan! First, for perspective on the numbers I’m about to give 
you, read my review of my QB (pre-fixed though it is). 
http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/quickbeam-sightings/

How, a few details and thoughts, recomendations:

1. Ride what you have. Learn. It will be hard, no matter what the gearing is. 
You’re learning to use one gear instead of 20+.
2. Ride one gear only and you will learn even more. Do this for three months.
3. Ride till you can’t, walk till you can.
4. You are always in the right gear. This is just as true as you are always in 
the wrong gear. But the countanance of joy from always being in the right gear 
greatly exceeds that of always being in the wrong gear.
5. Your 4 tooth dingle cog will give you a reasonable drop in gear. That’s all 
I use on my QB (44 x 17/22) and I ride asphalt, dirt roads, trails, rocks, 
roots, hills. My high is 71”, my low is 57”.
6. My Hunqapillar gearing will have greater range because I will have a double 
chainring and 5t spread in the rear. 34/38 x 17/22 (via a flipflop hub). This 
will give me three ridable gears for loaded bikepacking and errands of: 61”, 
47”, and 42”
7. Try fixed. Try it for a week or two. You’ll love it or hate it, but you’ll 
learn. A lot.
8. Learn to climb in slow cadance without going anaerobic. This takes time, but 
basically I view each pedal stroke as a squat. I don’t do power/speed squats, I 
do slow squats.
9. You’ll be amazed how much stronger your riding gets (on any bike) with 
consistant ss riding, and if you only ride ss for a few weeks, just how fast 
your get stronger.
10. LCG. Lowest Common Gear. Comes with every bike, standard. It is also 
biking, never failure.

Enjoy!

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Homer Hilsen stolen in San Francisco

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Have to agree - that ad is kind of weird.  Left brake lever is kind of 
"bonked" in a bit. Even though they specify 56, it looks a tad smaller in 
the photos. 

I supposed it could be a relative or non-knowledgeable person selling for 
the original owner, but it's reasonably light on details and Riv-love.  You 
could cobble the text together after a quick google search or two. 





On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 12:10:47 PM UTC-7, Edwin W wrote:
>
> What do you find fishy about the ad? Except for their poor understanding 
> of the difference between "your" and "you're" of course.
>
> Priced high, pictures of several potentially unique aspects of the bike, 
> and a posted serial number.
>
> What made you think it might be the stolen one? The "powder blue?" I 
> couldn't tell on my computer monitor with those pictures if there was 
> anything unique about the color.
>
> Edwin
>
> On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 12:56:28 PM UTC-5, C Sharp wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tom, 
>>
>> Is this your bike? This CL ad seems fishy to me. 
>>
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/rivendell-homer-hilsen/6549937327.html
>>  
>>
>> Best of luck, 
>> Cameron 
>> Brooklyn
>
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[RBW] Re: Quick & cheap solution to clear the front derailleur clamp to mount a bottle cage

[Jeffrey Arita]

In a pinch one could also use valve stem nuts.  Inside diameter is good and 
they are decent thickness.  Can 'stack' them for rack mounting off-sets at 
fork braze-on too.

Jeff

On Wednesday, April 4, 2018 at 8:03:20 AM UTC-7, tc wrote:
>
> I wish Riv, and other companies, would ship their bikes with longer bottle 
> cage bolts and spacers to enable one to mount a cage (or whatever) so it 
> will clear/span the front derailleur clamp.  (They do know it's there...).  
> And, to be fair, maybe all bottle cage manufacturers could design cages 
> with mounting tabs that would stick out enough to clear derailleur clamps 
> :)  Anyway, my Velo Orange "Retro" bottle cage has a perfectly flat 
> mounting area, so I needed a solution.
>
> I saw that Problem Solvers provides a bolt+spacer solution ... so 
> obviously this is common enough to warrant some company selling a 
> work-around.  As I thought it might be over-priced, but more importantly 
> because I wanted to get on with it and ride, my solution was to:
> - Go to Performance Bike 10 min away and get two M5 x 0.8 x 20mm socket 
> head stainless bolts (free ... they had a jillion in a plastic jug of diff 
> lengths)
> - Go to Home Depot 5 min from there and get two packs of four M5 stainless 
> flat washers (a little over $1 for both packs total).  They had no suitable 
> 4mm-ish spacers
> - Stack 4 washers behind each mounting hole in the the bottle cage so as 
> to space it out and just clear the protruding derailleur clamp
>
> Including the driving and looking for stuff, I was good to go in about 45 
> min from initial head-scratching.  From 5 feet away, you have to look 
> really hard to discern the diff between washers and single spacer.  Of 
> course the bottle hides everything when it's in the cage.
>
>
> 
>
>
> Anyway, I'm sure others have some up with similar solutions.  This is my 
> quick, cheap solution - hope it helps somebody.  I probably need to look 
> for a bike-oriented metric fastener|washer|spacer "kit" somewhere.  I tend 
> not to need anything metric except for bikes, so I haven't built up a bin 
> full of this stuff yet.
>
> Tom
>

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[RBW] Re: Homer Hilsen stolen in San Francisco

[Joe Bernard]

Eh, the CL bike could pass as a 54 or 55 and powder blue is not a stock AHH 
color. It's a reasonable move to flag it for Tom. 

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[RBW] Re: Homer Hilsen stolen in San Francisco

[C Sharp]

Edwin,

Several things jump out at me. Nothing about this posting suggests that the 
seller knows about and appreciates the bike he’s selling is a Rivendell — which 
is what you’d expect if he had ever spent $3000 on it. Strange color in the 
photos at the very least, but also non-drive side photos and no close ups of 
components. Super generic ad that sounds like someone imitating a bike 
salesman. Bad formatting. 

Ultimately, just a hunch, but a lead that seems worth investigating.

Best,
Cameron

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[RBW] Re: Homer Hilsen stolen in San Francisco

[C Sharp]

Looking back over Edwin’s comment, I realize that e/ correct plus the size is 
noted as 56cm. Apologies to the OP of the CL for my disparagement of his ad and 
to the OP of this post for a false alarm. 

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[RBW] Re: IRD 8-speed [13-40] Wide Range Cassette

[Bill Lindsay]

Back to the OP.  What problem are you looking to solve by getting a new 
cassette?  What are you running up front?  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Tuesday, April 3, 2018 at 11:14:54 AM UTC-7, jandrews wrote:
>
> Greetings, 
> Curious if anyone here has any experience using this cassette.
> I'm currently using the 12-34 version, which is pleasantly spaced like 
> this:  [12-13-15-18-21-24-28-34].  The jumps go 1,2,3,3,3,4,6.
> I'm interested in the 13-40 version, with has some odd-sounding spacing.. 
>  . [13-15-17-21-25-28-34-40].  The jumps go 2,2,4,4,3,6,6.
> I am happy the 8-speed setup on my SH and I don't really want to replace a 
> bunch of parts.  I think I can swap out that cassette and maybe add a 
> RoadLink 
> 
>  
> and be good to go.
> Hoping to hear some direct user experience before purchasing.
> Thanks
> Jason
>
>
>
> http://www.interlocracing.com/cassettes-freewheels/8-speed-elite-road-cassette-shimano-compatible
>

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[RBW] Re: Homer Hilsen stolen in San Francisco

[Paul Choi]

It is not the same size as his bike. 

On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 10:56:28 AM UTC-7, C Sharp wrote:
>
> Hi Tom, 
>
> Is this your bike? This CL ad seems fishy to me. 
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/rivendell-homer-hilsen/6549937327.html 
>
> Best of luck, 
> Cameron 
> Brooklyn

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[RBW] Gearing for Quickbeam

[alan lavine]

Hi All,
Changing a few things on a new to me QB, and was wondering how others have them 
set up. For the rear I have a 17/21 dingle that I want to use, but haven't 
decided about the front. Single or double chainring? 
Would love to hear what others have used, and for what purpose, I.e. around 
town, touring, climbing, etc.  My use would be mostly around town, occasional 
30-40 mile rides with moderate climbs, but no off road use.  Maybe CC tours in 
the future.
Also, how often do you actually change the gears? I wonder if I'd be too lazy 
to do it often, and just use a geared bike when needed.  So maybe a single up 
front and dingle in the rear would suffice.

Thanks,
Alan
NYC

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Re: [RBW] Re: Put her on a Rivendell!

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Unemployed at the moment, so I've been keeping an extra watchful 
eye...bring your A game.

On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 2:22:28 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> BTW, I am amused that others keep better track of my rantings (on 2 lists, 
> no less!) than I do myself.
>
> On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 9:27 AM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> Hey Patrick, you covered this one.
>>
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/internet-bob/cyclist$20trump%7Csort:date/internet-bob/hWBWu0CDAs8/9oh_fe5wBQAJ
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 4, 2018 at 10:36:19 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> Anyone who flips the bird at a political leader has a shot at salvation.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/apr/04/juli-briskman-cyclist-middle-finger-trump-photo-sues-employer
>>>
>>> Patrick "votes the straight ticket: none of the above" Moore
>>>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: 56cm 650b Hunqapillar Frame and Fork

[Clayton.sf]

On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 11:57:49 AM UTC-7, Stephen W. wrote:
> Howdy,
>  I'll have one for sale as soon as my 59 arrives. 
> 
> Stephen

tried PM but not sure if it went though. If you don't mind, could you send me 
an email at clayton.sf(at)gmail(dot)com and we can take it from there. 

thx!
Clayton Scott

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Re: [RBW] IRD 8-speed [13-40] Wide Range Cassette

[Jim Bronson]

When choosing a wide range casette - I would look at percentage jumps
rather than tooth jumps.  The 17 to 21 jump sounds like a pretty big one,
percentage wise speaking.  A 4 tooth jump is much larger in the higher
gears than the lower gears, percentage wise.  $0.02 and YMMV.

I also echo the thoughts of others to go more speeds if you're going
wider.  I switched to 10 speed, using SRAM 12-32 currently with a 44-28
wide low double.  That seems to be a good compromise for me.

On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 1:14 PM, jandrews_nyc 
wrote:

> Greetings,
> Curious if anyone here has any experience using this cassette.
> I'm currently using the 12-34 version, which is pleasantly spaced like
> this:  [12-13-15-18-21-24-28-34].  The jumps go 1,2,3,3,3,4,6.
> I'm interested in the 13-40 version, with has some odd-sounding spacing..
>  . [13-15-17-21-25-28-34-40].  The jumps go 2,2,4,4,3,6,6.
> I am happy the 8-speed setup on my SH and I don't really want to replace a
> bunch of parts.  I think I can swap out that cassette and maybe add a
> RoadLink
> 
> and be good to go.
> Hoping to hear some direct user experience before purchasing.
> Thanks
> Jason
>
>
> http://www.interlocracing.com/cassettes-freewheels/8-speed-
> elite-road-cassette-shimano-compatible
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[RBW] Re: Homer Hilsen stolen in San Francisco

[Edwin W]

What do you find fishy about the ad? Except for their poor understanding of 
the difference between "your" and "you're" of course.

Priced high, pictures of several potentially unique aspects of the bike, 
and a posted serial number.

What made you think it might be the stolen one? The "powder blue?" I 
couldn't tell on my computer monitor with those pictures if there was 
anything unique about the color.

Edwin

On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 12:56:28 PM UTC-5, C Sharp wrote:
>
> Hi Tom, 
>
> Is this your bike? This CL ad seems fishy to me. 
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/rivendell-homer-hilsen/6549937327.html 
>
> Best of luck, 
> Cameron 
> Brooklyn

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[RBW] 2 frames for sale

[Rich Lesnik]

FS: 54cm  "Original" Panasonic green Quickbeam frame/fork/HS. No
decals, assorted nicks and scratches. Rides great. $300 plus Rivendell
shipping charge

FS: 55cm Toyo-built original blue A Homer Hilsen, frame/fork/HS. Takes
700c wheels. $800 plus Rivendell shipping charge.

Photos on request.

Rich Lesnik

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[RBW] WTB: 56cm 650b Hunqapillar Frame and Fork

[Stephen W.]

Howdy,
 I'll have one for sale as soon as my 59 arrives. 

Stephen 

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[RBW] WTB Nitto Choco Norm and/or Dia Compe SS-6 Levers (Possible trade for Soma Portola Bars?)

[Daniel Jackson]

I’ve a nearly new Choco I’d be willing to part with for $79 shipped CONUS. 

Thanks,
Daniel

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Re: [RBW] Re: IRD 8-speed [13-40] Wide Range Cassette

[Patrick Moore]

I have to say that I sit on both extremes of the cadence spectrum, since
(a) most of my riding on pavement is fixed gear, and (b) I hate shifting
only to find that the gear I've shifted to is not exactly the one I wanted.
(But I'm someone who does obsess about gear ratios for fixed gear
drivetrains.)

For multiple gear systems, I prefer to give up high and low ends in order
to get 1 tooth jumps between gears in the cruising range. One of my nicest
gearing systems, back when I rode derailleurs on road, was a
"pseudo-half-step" with very closely spaced 48/45 or 47/44 rings and a 7
speed cassette that was something like (forget exactnesses) this:


*48*

*45*

12

99


13

91

86

15

79

74

*17*

*70*

*66*

19

63

59

22

54

51

30


37

Most of my riding was on the 17 t cog, and, with Kelly Take-Offs, I could
ride comfortably on hoods and in hooks and simply flick the left lever back
and forth for 9/10 of my riding; perfect indexing. The 12 and 30 were used
only with the outer and inner rings, respectively.

More recently, I've got this on my Matthews "road bike for dirt, with 29.5"
actual Big Ones for riding in our ABQ, NM bosque sand:


*42*

*28*

14

89


15

83


16

77


17

*73*


18

*69*

46

19

*65*

43

20

*62*

41

22

56

38

24

52

34

28

44

30

The ratios are perfect for my riding, which is along the acequia roads and
trails paralleling the n/s, flat terrain, Rio Grande, whose surfaces are
composed largely of old river silt. But since any ride is at least partly
pavement, I like the close ratios that allow me just about exactly the
right gear for anything I am likely to encounter on my pavement/dirt
routes; note that all this is also relative to my preference for a high-ish
gear, low-cadence, high-torque pedaling style.

But then, even with these systems, I probably shift less than most riders.


On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 10:00 AM, jandrews  wrote:

> [...]
> I does make me curious what others may think is the ideal spacing between
> cogs when climbing and shifting down while attempting to maintain a somewhat
> constant cadence.
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Re: [RBW] Re: anybody have VO crazy bar?

[Jon Schultz]

He has a dedicated review too

www.cyclingabout.com/velo-orange-crazy-bar-review/

On Thu, Apr 5, 2018, 8:33 AM Bob Lovejoy  wrote:

> I do not have direct experience but I will throw in that Alee from
> CycingAbout is using VO Crazy Bars on a Koga touring bike for a current and
> big adventure.  He mentions the bars at times but the information is more
> about the trip.  Still, maybe useful...
>
> https://www.cyclingabout.com/video-koga-worldtraveller-touring-bike/
>
> Bob Lovejoy
> Galesburg, IL
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 3, 2018 at 8:12:47 PM UTC-5, Matt Beecher wrote:
>>
>> I'm thinking of buying the VO crazy handlebar, but I am looking for
>> reviews.  Has anyone here tried them?  If so, would you share your opinions?
>>
>> Does anyone have one they want to part with?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Matt B
>> Oswego, IL
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Re: [RBW] FS: Pashley Clubman 54.5-56

[Joe Bernard]

Frame-plus-roadie-parts is a deal we could do, too, if y'all aren't interested 
in the 2-speed bits. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Put her on a Rivendell!

[Patrick Moore]

BTW, I am amused that others keep better track of my rantings (on 2 lists,
no less!) than I do myself.

On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 9:27 AM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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> Hey Patrick, you covered this one.
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/internet-bob/
> cyclist$20trump%7Csort:date/internet-bob/hWBWu0CDAs8/9oh_fe5wBQAJ
>
> On Wednesday, April 4, 2018 at 10:36:19 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Anyone who flips the bird at a political leader has a shot at salvation.
>>
>> https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/apr/04/juli-briskma
>> n-cyclist-middle-finger-trump-photo-sues-employer
>>
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Re: [RBW] FS: Pashley Clubman 54.5-56

[Patrick Moore]

I'm glad it's too small for me, otherwise I'd be very tempted, and I've
just had to shell out $1750 for car repair. If my daughter didn't use the
car (I put no more than 1,200 miles/year on it, if that) I'd not bother
with it.

On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 11:57 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Cross-post from BOB: Pashley Clubman set up as a 2-speed, made in England,
> nice light traditional road bike with 531 tubes, listed as a 21.5 inch
> frame on their site. I bought it on the BOB about 18 months ago in pretty
> much new shape and it's still in that condition.
>
> It started as a Clubman Country (link below) which is a standard
> double-chainring dropbar road bike, then slowly morphed into a lighter
> Paul-ified version of their Clubman Urban. Scroll down in that link for
> that one, it's the same frame with 2-speed IGH and drum brakes.
>
> Wheels and seatpost are stock. Sugino wide-low from Riv, 40-26. Some kinda
> Shimano or Tange BB, whichever was on the Cheviot I pulled it from.
> Paul Melvin tensioner, 17t cog with spacers and a Gear Clamp.
> Old Mavic double front derailer shifted with a SunRace clickety-friction
> thumbie.
> Brand new NOS Dia-Compe levers, super nice, I just installed them.
> Paul Racer brakes.
> New V-O Milan bar, new Ergon grips, nice Nitto threadless 12cm stem
> looking horrendous on a V-O quill converter. Quill has some insertion
> marks, but the smudge you see above the headset is grease I forgot to wipe
> off after raising the stem. You'll be changing this anyway; use it to
> decide if you're happy with stem length or need different, then buy the
> appropriate Nitto quill 25.4 stem and sell that threadless thing!
> Grand Bois Cyprés 700 x 30 tires.
>
> Also comes with original derailers (105), cranks, BB and 8-speed cassette.
> No saddle, pedals or bags.
> $1400 shipped Bike Flights or reasonable offer.
>
> Great fast bike, I'm happy to keep it if it doesn't sell but I want to
> snag one of those Lightning Bolts Analog Cycles is selling. Make an offer!
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/IY0iFv6h6LKRxX9l2
>
> http://www.britishbicycle.com/pashley-clubman-country/
>
> Joe Bernard
> Novato CA.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Put her on a Rivendell!

[Patrick Moore]

You got me. I just think it's a wonderful shot; perfect for the logo of
some upstart organization devoted to butting heads with conventions. A
company with Edward Abbey as CEO.

I rather think it is too agressive for Rivendell, though of course
Rivendell came to mind (which is why I posted); but Rivendell is too gentle.

(I disagree with Abbey at very many levels, but I do delight in his
contempt for stupid and corrupt authority -- corrupt because stupid; *and* his
love for the severe beauty of the American Southwest -- beautiful because
severe; the severity is purity.)

Over and out on this one.



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> Hey Patrick, you covered this one.
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/internet-bob/
> cyclist$20trump%7Csort:date/internet-bob/hWBWu0CDAs8/9oh_fe5wBQAJ
>
> On Wednesday, April 4, 2018 at 10:36:19 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Anyone who flips the bird at a political leader has a shot at salvation.
>>
>> https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/apr/04/juli-briskma
>> n-cyclist-middle-finger-trump-photo-sues-employer
>>
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[RBW] Homer Hilsen stolen in San Francisco

[Joe Bernard]

Good call, C Sharp, I can't believe I didn't make the connection. I was just 
looking at this and thinking it was an unusual AHH color. Go get your bike, Tom!

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[RBW] WTB: 56cm 650b Hunqapillar Frame and Fork

[Clayton.sf]

Title says it and yes it is a looong shot, but if anyone is 
entertaining selling theirs LMK.

Cheers,
Clayton Scott
SF, CA

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[RBW] FS: Pashley Clubman 54.5-56

[Joe Bernard]

Cross-post from BOB: Pashley Clubman set up as a 2-speed, made in England, nice 
light traditional road bike with 531 tubes, listed as a 21.5 inch frame on 
their site. I bought it on the BOB about 18 months ago in pretty much new shape 
and it's still in that condition. 

It started as a Clubman Country (link below) which is a standard 
double-chainring dropbar road bike, then slowly morphed into a lighter 
Paul-ified version of their Clubman Urban. Scroll down in that link for that 
one, it's the same frame with 2-speed IGH and drum brakes. 

Wheels and seatpost are stock. Sugino wide-low from Riv, 40-26. Some kinda 
Shimano or Tange BB, whichever was on the Cheviot I pulled it from. 
Paul Melvin tensioner, 17t cog with spacers and a Gear Clamp. 
Old Mavic double front derailer shifted with a SunRace clickety-friction 
thumbie. 
Brand new NOS Dia-Compe levers, super nice, I just installed them. 
Paul Racer brakes. 
New V-O Milan bar, new Ergon grips, nice Nitto threadless 12cm stem looking 
horrendous on a V-O quill converter. Quill has some insertion marks, but the 
smudge you see above the headset is grease I forgot to wipe off after raising 
the stem. You'll be changing this anyway; use it to decide if you're happy with 
stem length or need different, then buy the appropriate Nitto quill 25.4 stem 
and sell that threadless thing! 
Grand Bois Cyprés 700 x 30 tires. 

Also comes with original derailers (105), cranks, BB and 8-speed cassette.
No saddle, pedals or bags. 
$1400 shipped Bike Flights or reasonable offer. 

Great fast bike, I'm happy to keep it if it doesn't sell but I want to snag one 
of those Lightning Bolts Analog Cycles is selling. Make an offer! 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/IY0iFv6h6LKRxX9l2 

http://www.britishbicycle.com/pashley-clubman-country/ 

Joe Bernard 
Novato CA.

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[RBW] Homer Hilsen stolen in San Francisco

[C Sharp]

Hi Tom,

Is this your bike? This CL ad seems fishy to me. 

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/rivendell-homer-hilsen/6549937327.html

Best of luck,
Cameron
Brooklyn

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[RBW] WTB Nitto Choco Norm and/or Dia Compe SS-6 Levers (Possible trade for Soma Portola Bars?)

[Mushroom Man]

The Soma Portola just isn't doing it for me on my faux-Riv 1984 
Stumpjumper, really curious about the Choco bar. Anyone have one they would 
let go of? And perhaps some Dia Compe SS-6 levers to throw on it? 

Maybe the Soma Portola bars would work better for someone else, they are 
nice dirt drop shape I just don't spend a bunch of time using the flare. 
56cm I believe, plenty wide. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Quickbeam *Lower Price* + Misc items

[SpiralCage]

thanks for posting that out! Updated Craigslist ad:

https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/rivendell-quickbeam-58cm/6548824667.html

Also a lot of pictures of it on my Flickr:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/35237104136@N01/albums/72157633309416243

thanks,
Robert

On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 10:29:27 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> FWIW, it appears your original craigslist ad has expired, so the link you 
> posted earlier is not good anymore.  If you have a new link to photos of 
> the bike in question, I'm sure your prospective buyers would be grateful
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 10:21:04 AM UTC-7, SpiralCage wrote:
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> So new lower price on my Quickbeam: $1000 OBO.  Also I have more time now 
>> and could ship it for cost, but definitely a preference for local (Seattle) 
>> pickup.
>>
>> Also I have a couple of other things FS:
>>
>> I have a Big Nitto Front rack for 26" wheels. This one:
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/racks/products/nitto-big-front-rack-34f-20075
>>
>> Riv sells it for $218 I'll sell it for $100 + shipping. It's in good 
>> shape; I had it on my Safari for a few years did one tour with bags on it. 
>>  Some scratches, but in solid shape.
>>
>> I also have a three pairs of Musa shorts in the original butternut size 
>> L. One has a green crotch and is probably later. All are in good shape (no 
>> rips or tears) and are great riding shorts.  They are just too big for me 
>> now. Would trade for a medium or sell for $20 each.
>>
>> One pair the original Musa pants in butternut. There is some oil stains 
>> near the ankle from riding with these and one rear pocket missing the 
>> button. Size Large. No rips or tears and velcro is still solid. Again just 
>> too big for me and I don't really like to ride in pants.  $20
>>
>> On Sunday, March 18, 2018 at 6:29:48 PM UTC-7, SpiralCage wrote:
>>>
>>> My Quickbeam has been sitting around the apartment far too long so it's 
>>> time it found a new owner. I posted about this back in the day when I 
>>> bought the frame and had it repainted, so you can get all the nitty gritty 
>>> of the work that was done on it by searching the archives. Anyway I've 
>>> since converted it to a three speed which makes the Seattle hills easier to 
>>> manage. The original single speed wheel is included with it.  I've got all 
>>> the build info and pictures on the Craigslist ad:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/rivendell-quickbeam-58cm/6521085801.html
>>>
>>> As the ad sez I'm asking $1200 obo.
>>>
>>> I'd like to sell it in Seattle as I'm not able to deal with packaging 
>>> and shipping right now. If you'd like to buy it and aren't local I'd be 
>>> happy to deal with a third party, be they generous individual or a shop.  
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Quickbeam *Lower Price* + Misc items

[Bill Lindsay]

FWIW, it appears your original craigslist ad has expired, so the link you 
posted earlier is not good anymore.  If you have a new link to photos of 
the bike in question, I'm sure your prospective buyers would be grateful

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 10:21:04 AM UTC-7, SpiralCage wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> So new lower price on my Quickbeam: $1000 OBO.  Also I have more time now 
> and could ship it for cost, but definitely a preference for local (Seattle) 
> pickup.
>
> Also I have a couple of other things FS:
>
> I have a Big Nitto Front rack for 26" wheels. This one:
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/racks/products/nitto-big-front-rack-34f-20075
>
> Riv sells it for $218 I'll sell it for $100 + shipping. It's in good 
> shape; I had it on my Safari for a few years did one tour with bags on it. 
>  Some scratches, but in solid shape.
>
> I also have a three pairs of Musa shorts in the original butternut size L. 
> One has a green crotch and is probably later. All are in good shape (no 
> rips or tears) and are great riding shorts.  They are just too big for me 
> now. Would trade for a medium or sell for $20 each.
>
> One pair the original Musa pants in butternut. There is some oil stains 
> near the ankle from riding with these and one rear pocket missing the 
> button. Size Large. No rips or tears and velcro is still solid. Again just 
> too big for me and I don't really like to ride in pants.  $20
>
> On Sunday, March 18, 2018 at 6:29:48 PM UTC-7, SpiralCage wrote:
>>
>> My Quickbeam has been sitting around the apartment far too long so it's 
>> time it found a new owner. I posted about this back in the day when I 
>> bought the frame and had it repainted, so you can get all the nitty gritty 
>> of the work that was done on it by searching the archives. Anyway I've 
>> since converted it to a three speed which makes the Seattle hills easier to 
>> manage. The original single speed wheel is included with it.  I've got all 
>> the build info and pictures on the Craigslist ad:
>>
>>
>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/rivendell-quickbeam-58cm/6521085801.html
>>
>> As the ad sez I'm asking $1200 obo.
>>
>> I'd like to sell it in Seattle as I'm not able to deal with packaging and 
>> shipping right now. If you'd like to buy it and aren't local I'd be happy 
>> to deal with a third party, be they generous individual or a shop.  
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Quickbeam *Lower Price* + Misc items

[SpiralCage]

Hey all,

So new lower price on my Quickbeam: $1000 OBO.  Also I have more time now 
and could ship it for cost, but definitely a preference for local (Seattle) 
pickup.

Also I have a couple of other things FS:

I have a Big Nitto Front rack for 26" wheels. This one:
https://www.rivbike.com/collections/racks/products/nitto-big-front-rack-34f-20075

Riv sells it for $218 I'll sell it for $100 + shipping. It's in good shape; 
I had it on my Safari for a few years did one tour with bags on it.  Some 
scratches, but in solid shape.

I also have a three pairs of Musa shorts in the original butternut size L. 
One has a green crotch and is probably later. All are in good shape (no 
rips or tears) and are great riding shorts.  They are just too big for me 
now. Would trade for a medium or sell for $20 each.

One pair the original Musa pants in butternut. There is some oil stains 
near the ankle from riding with these and one rear pocket missing the 
button. Size Large. No rips or tears and velcro is still solid. Again just 
too big for me and I don't really like to ride in pants.  $20

On Sunday, March 18, 2018 at 6:29:48 PM UTC-7, SpiralCage wrote:
>
> My Quickbeam has been sitting around the apartment far too long so it's 
> time it found a new owner. I posted about this back in the day when I 
> bought the frame and had it repainted, so you can get all the nitty gritty 
> of the work that was done on it by searching the archives. Anyway I've 
> since converted it to a three speed which makes the Seattle hills easier to 
> manage. The original single speed wheel is included with it.  I've got all 
> the build info and pictures on the Craigslist ad:
>
>
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/rivendell-quickbeam-58cm/6521085801.html
>
> As the ad sez I'm asking $1200 obo.
>
> I'd like to sell it in Seattle as I'm not able to deal with packaging and 
> shipping right now. If you'd like to buy it and aren't local I'd be happy 
> to deal with a third party, be they generous individual or a shop.  
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 52cm Rivendell Clem Smith Jr L

[Belopsky]

Fine

Frame $850 because theyre still sold out

Cranks $200 because

Bars and stem $50

Wheels $300

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[RBW] Re: FS: 52cm Rivendell Clem Smith Jr L

[Eric]

Part that thing out. It'd be much simpler. 

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[RBW] Re: IRD 8-speed [13-40] Wide Range Cassette

[dougP]

"I does make me curious what others may think is the ideal spacing between 
cogs when climbing and shifting down while attempting to maintain a 
somewhat constant cadence."

I've never run more than 8 (and always a triple), so pretty far behind 
current thinking.  For general use & touring, 2 tooth jumps between the 
smallest cogs, going to 3 in the middle & 4 for the last couple shifts well 
and doesn't feel like stepping into a hole.  12-14-26-28-21-24-28-32 (or 
34) meets my needs.  I was cautious about the 28 to 34 being too big but it 
shifts well and actually feels like a good change.  Sometimes the 28 to 32 
doesn't feel like much of a change.  Chainrings are 24-34-44, with 700 x 40 
tires.  

dougP


On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 9:00:53 AM UTC-7, jandrews wrote:
>
> Thanks Phil
> I'm glad to hear first hand experience. 
> I don't typically ride in a manner where I'm trying to keep a constant 
> cadence...I feel like I can make adjustments when approaching a climb. 
>  Your feedback is very helpful nonetheless.
> I does make me curious what others may think is the ideal spacing between 
> cogs when climbing and shifting down while attempting to maintain a 
> somewhat constant cadence.
>
> Also, if I go to a 10 speed Sunrace (or other) I'd at least have to get a 
> new chain and potentially derailleur ..so getting a few more teeth in the 
> back might not be worth it to me.
> Love the idea of gaining a 40 low end and keeping everything else the same.
>
> Jason
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 3, 2018 at 2:55:10 PM UTC-4, phil k wrote:
>>
>> If you like to keep your cadence going up hills, I would try the 9 speed 
>> or even the 10 speed made by Sunrace.
>>
>> I had the IRD 8 speed wide low cassette for help with climbing. However, 
>> it didn't help as when I'd go uphill, I would lose cadence because of the 
>> spacing, Climbing got more miserable with the IRD 8 speed wide low. I 
>> enjoyed my 1x9 with 12-36 cassette.
>>
>> I am currently running 1x10 and like it even better. I use friction down 
>> tube 11 speed Dia Compe shifters 
>> 
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 3, 2018 at 2:14:54 PM UTC-4, jandrews wrote:
>>>
>>> Greetings, 
>>> Curious if anyone here has any experience using this cassette.
>>> I'm currently using the 12-34 version, which is pleasantly spaced like 
>>> this:  [12-13-15-18-21-24-28-34].  The jumps go 1,2,3,3,3,4,6.
>>> I'm interested in the 13-40 version, with has some odd-sounding 
>>> spacing..  . [13-15-17-21-25-28-34-40].  The jumps go 2,2,4,4,3,6,6.
>>> I am happy the 8-speed setup on my SH and I don't really want to replace 
>>> a bunch of parts.  I think I can swap out that cassette and maybe add a 
>>> RoadLink 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> and be good to go.
>>> Hoping to hear some direct user experience before purchasing.
>>> Thanks
>>> Jason
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.interlocracing.com/cassettes-freewheels/8-speed-elite-road-cassette-shimano-compatible
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: IRD 8-speed [13-40] Wide Range Cassette

[jandrews]

Thanks Phil
I'm glad to hear first hand experience. 
I don't typically ride in a manner where I'm trying to keep a constant 
cadence...I feel like I can make adjustments when approaching a climb. 
 Your feedback is very helpful nonetheless.
I does make me curious what others may think is the ideal spacing between 
cogs when climbing and shifting down while attempting to maintain a 
somewhat constant cadence.

Also, if I go to a 10 speed Sunrace (or other) I'd at least have to get a 
new chain and potentially derailleur ..so getting a few more teeth in the 
back might not be worth it to me.
Love the idea of gaining a 40 low end and keeping everything else the same.

Jason



On Tuesday, April 3, 2018 at 2:55:10 PM UTC-4, phil k wrote:
>
> If you like to keep your cadence going up hills, I would try the 9 speed 
> or even the 10 speed made by Sunrace.
>
> I had the IRD 8 speed wide low cassette for help with climbing. However, 
> it didn't help as when I'd go uphill, I would lose cadence because of the 
> spacing, Climbing got more miserable with the IRD 8 speed wide low. I 
> enjoyed my 1x9 with 12-36 cassette.
>
> I am currently running 1x10 and like it even better. I use friction down 
> tube 11 speed Dia Compe shifters 
> 
>
> On Tuesday, April 3, 2018 at 2:14:54 PM UTC-4, jandrews wrote:
>>
>> Greetings, 
>> Curious if anyone here has any experience using this cassette.
>> I'm currently using the 12-34 version, which is pleasantly spaced like 
>> this:  [12-13-15-18-21-24-28-34].  The jumps go 1,2,3,3,3,4,6.
>> I'm interested in the 13-40 version, with has some odd-sounding spacing.. 
>>  . [13-15-17-21-25-28-34-40].  The jumps go 2,2,4,4,3,6,6.
>> I am happy the 8-speed setup on my SH and I don't really want to replace 
>> a bunch of parts.  I think I can swap out that cassette and maybe add a 
>> RoadLink 
>> 
>>  
>> and be good to go.
>> Hoping to hear some direct user experience before purchasing.
>> Thanks
>> Jason
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.interlocracing.com/cassettes-freewheels/8-speed-elite-road-cassette-shimano-compatible
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Put her on a Rivendell!

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hey Patrick, you covered this one.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/internet-bob/cyclist$20trump%7Csort:date/internet-bob/hWBWu0CDAs8/9oh_fe5wBQAJ

On Wednesday, April 4, 2018 at 10:36:19 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
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> Anyone who flips the bird at a political leader has a shot at salvation.
>
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Re: [RBW] Quick & cheap solution to clear the front derailleur clamp to mount a bottle cage

[Jim Bronson]

I've never had a water bottle mount interfere with a derailer mount.
Perhaps this is a feature of smaller frames?  My Rivendells are 68, 68 and
65 cm.

On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 10:03 AM, tc  wrote:

> I wish Riv, and other companies, would ship their bikes with longer bottle
> cage bolts and spacers to enable one to mount a cage (or whatever) so it
> will clear/span the front derailleur clamp.  (They do know it's there...).
> And, to be fair, maybe all bottle cage manufacturers could design cages
> with mounting tabs that would stick out enough to clear derailleur clamps
> :)  Anyway, my Velo Orange "Retro" bottle cage has a perfectly flat
> mounting area, so I needed a solution.
>
> I saw that Problem Solvers provides a bolt+spacer solution ... so
> obviously this is common enough to warrant some company selling a
> work-around.  As I thought it might be over-priced, but more importantly
> because I wanted to get on with it and ride, my solution was to:
> - Go to Performance Bike 10 min away and get two M5 x 0.8 x 20mm socket
> head stainless bolts (free ... they had a jillion in a plastic jug of diff
> lengths)
> - Go to Home Depot 5 min from there and get two packs of four M5 stainless
> flat washers (a little over $1 for both packs total).  They had no suitable
> 4mm-ish spacers
> - Stack 4 washers behind each mounting hole in the the bottle cage so as
> to space it out and just clear the protruding derailleur clamp
>
> Including the driving and looking for stuff, I was good to go in about 45
> min from initial head-scratching.  From 5 feet away, you have to look
> really hard to discern the diff between washers and single spacer.  Of
> course the bottle hides everything when it's in the cage.
>
>
> 
>
>
> Anyway, I'm sure others have some up with similar solutions.  This is my
> quick, cheap solution - hope it helps somebody.  I probably need to look
> for a bike-oriented metric fastener|washer|spacer "kit" somewhere.  I tend
> not to need anything metric except for bikes, so I haven't built up a bin
> full of this stuff yet.
>
> Tom
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[RBW] Re: Put her on a Rivendell!

[Garth]

Well gee ... who am I to criticize the finger flicking of anyone . 

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[RBW] Re: Quick & cheap solution to clear the front derailleur clamp to mount a bottle cage

[Marc Irwin]

I've found that a presta valve nut works perfectly as a spacer.

Marc

On Wednesday, April 4, 2018 at 11:03:20 AM UTC-4, tc wrote:
>
> I wish Riv, and other companies, would ship their bikes with longer bottle 
> cage bolts and spacers to enable one to mount a cage (or whatever) so it 
> will clear/span the front derailleur clamp.  (They do know it's there...).  
> And, to be fair, maybe all bottle cage manufacturers could design cages 
> with mounting tabs that would stick out enough to clear derailleur clamps 
> :)  Anyway, my Velo Orange "Retro" bottle cage has a perfectly flat 
> mounting area, so I needed a solution.
>
> I saw that Problem Solvers provides a bolt+spacer solution ... so 
> obviously this is common enough to warrant some company selling a 
> work-around.  As I thought it might be over-priced, but more importantly 
> because I wanted to get on with it and ride, my solution was to:
> - Go to Performance Bike 10 min away and get two M5 x 0.8 x 20mm socket 
> head stainless bolts (free ... they had a jillion in a plastic jug of diff 
> lengths)
> - Go to Home Depot 5 min from there and get two packs of four M5 stainless 
> flat washers (a little over $1 for both packs total).  They had no suitable 
> 4mm-ish spacers
> - Stack 4 washers behind each mounting hole in the the bottle cage so as 
> to space it out and just clear the protruding derailleur clamp
>
> Including the driving and looking for stuff, I was good to go in about 45 
> min from initial head-scratching.  From 5 feet away, you have to look 
> really hard to discern the diff between washers and single spacer.  Of 
> course the bottle hides everything when it's in the cage.
>
>
> 
>
>
> Anyway, I'm sure others have some up with similar solutions.  This is my 
> quick, cheap solution - hope it helps somebody.  I probably need to look 
> for a bike-oriented metric fastener|washer|spacer "kit" somewhere.  I tend 
> not to need anything metric except for bikes, so I haven't built up a bin 
> full of this stuff yet.
>
> Tom
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Put her on a Rivendell!

[Patrick Moore]

It's not political at att, it's aesthetic.

Patrick Moore
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> On Apr 5, 2018, at 6:14 AM, Austin B.  wrote:
> 
> Oh let's please not take it there. This is one of the few remaining online 
> social outlets that hasn't gone totally political.
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[RBW] Re: anybody have VO crazy bar?

[Bob Lovejoy]

I do not have direct experience but I will throw in that Alee from 
CycingAbout is using VO Crazy Bars on a Koga touring bike for a current and 
big adventure.  He mentions the bars at times but the information is more 
about the trip.  Still, maybe useful...

https://www.cyclingabout.com/video-koga-worldtraveller-touring-bike/

Bob Lovejoy
Galesburg, IL


On Tuesday, April 3, 2018 at 8:12:47 PM UTC-5, Matt Beecher wrote:
>
> I'm thinking of buying the VO crazy handlebar, but I am looking for 
> reviews.  Has anyone here tried them?  If so, would you share your opinions?
>
> Does anyone have one they want to part with?
>
> Thanks,
> Matt B
> Oswego, IL
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[RBW] Re: anybody have VO crazy bar?

[Jon BALER]

I have had one on my touring bike for a few years, and like it.  My touring 
bike is currently a Salsa Marrakesh with flat bar geometry.  

In the last year, I trimmed down the forward extensions at the bend.  I 
found I wasn't using the upper portion very often, and now I can rotate my 
wrists over the end to achieve another hand position.

A couple of differences from the Jones Bar:
-There is no forward sweep in the middle section, so a Jones bar would need 
a shorter stem to achieve the same position. 
-The no forward center sweep also results in a straight center section, 
which provides a central hand position similar to drop bars.
-The straight ahead extensions keep the area in front of the bar open, 
which is a benefit if you have a tall rando style bag.

On Wednesday, April 4, 2018 at 7:40:04 AM UTC-4, Jacob wrote:
>
> Matt-
>
> I have used them in the past and really liked them - especially the 
> junction position, where the sweep, straight portion, and horns meet.  They 
> have the same 45 degree sweep as the Jones, which are popular.  Only real 
> drawbacks I encountered: build quality (felt cheap, welds didn't inspire 
> confidence), the width (I commute in high traffic small spaces, creates a 
> twitchy input with so much leverage), and the need for an open-faced stem 
> (hard to find a stubby quill version with the necessary height).  They were 
> comfortable and got a lot of looks/questions, but ultimately it felt like I 
> was solving comfort issues by introducing more problems with compatibility.
>
> I switched to Bosco's on that bike and it was worth it.  Just as many 
> positions, accepts bar-ends, high-quality...
>
> -Jacob
> Brooklyn
>

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[RBW] Re: Put her on a Rivendell!

[Austin B.]

Oh let's please not take it there. This is one of the few remaining online 
social outlets that hasn't gone totally political.

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[RBW] Re: Newbaums on Sam Hillborne

[Alan Pickett]

Those look super-cushy, super-comfy. The orange clearly signifies you as 
someone who says "Yes!" to life. I like, and well done!  

On Monday, April 2, 2018 at 11:05:04 PM UTC-4, Paul Choi wrote:
>
> Decided to try orange Newbaums over my silicone grips. I put three coats 
> of clear shellac and then twine to keep it from unraveling. I like the way 
> it turned out. The clear shellac brings out a deeper color.

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