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I seem to be unable to send pics as the files are too large

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 4:46 PM Joel Stern  wrote:

> Bleriot Tune Up
>
>
> I had the Bleriot that had not been ridden in 10 years except for 3 rides
> last week to the bike shop, a local shop, all kids, never used this shop
> before. I was told when I brought it in the rear derailleur was bent, but I
> asked them to check the hanger as advised by Rivendell.
>
>
> The bike had been having a rough not smooth feeling when pedaling in many
> gears, almost all. I thought the rear wheel was out of true, etc.
>
>
> So I pick the bike up today and I was told it is great, rear Derailleur
> and hanger are fine. So I take it for a ride and the same rough feeling
> after shifting. They took one link out of the chain and said that it was
> too loose but nothing really changed.
>
> When I came back and talked to them I had a few things to ask them
>
>
>1. The rear brake was rubbing on the rim, I was told it was because of
>my rack and the rack had to come off, when I got home I loosened the quick
>release on the wheel and moved the rim over and it is fine now as far as
>the brake is not rubbing. I was very surprised this your kid who was not
>low level, not a wrench but he should have known.
>
>
> 2. For the rough pedaling feeling I was told the following and I will put
> in quotes as best as I can remember. Now I have a TA Zephyr crank, they
> said I need a whole new drive train, I told them there was no way I was not
> going to use the TA, and that I need a  new FW (I have 2 at home
> that look as new or as close as possible), and I need a new chain (this one
> I buy more than the first two)
>
>
> So here is what I was told.  “the chain needs to be replaced and the
> cassette (he did not know it was a FW) needs replacing and the crank needs
> to be replaced as it is worn”. “We know this because of this little tool we
> have that measure then chain” Maybe it is but the bike was used for 2 or so
> years, and it was not my main bike as my Custom was before the car accident
> the sidelined riding for me. It sat for 10 years with a bit of use on
> rollers with a fork mount, very little use due to my back and knees. So I
> raided my parts bin when I got home.
>
>
> I found my TA BB tool (not sure if they will need that (not this shop but
> another that I will now have to hunt for but I can do that).
>
>
> Here are all of the parts I found
>
>
> 2 13x26 FW’s in almost if not new condition.
>
>
> I use  the TA crank w/ 48/38/24
>
>
> Now I did find one new TA 38 in the basement, all the rest are no brand
>
>
> If anyone has any TA 110 front rings please let me know
>
>
> I found d 38, 36, 28, 26, 24
>
>
> I did not find a 48.
>
>
> OK I need advise on what your thought are. I really want the bike to ride
> smooth again when pedaling, I was told if I had them put a new chain on “it
> would make everything worse”.
>
>
> Also they thought the Deore rear I brought  would not work as it is a 9
> speed, I had to explain to this nice kid it did not matter as I friction
> shift.
>
>
> Bonus, I also found a NOS suntour rear Derailleur in the basement but
> think I will keep the Deore as well as it was not expensive at REI.
>
>
> Please help
>
>
> I am near Springfield MA if anyone knows of a good bike shop in the
> Hartford, Springfield, Nothampton area.
>
>
> I am cross posting to iBob as well.
>
>
> Joel
>
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[RBW] Re: The Sound of Silence - Just Ride Quietly

2020-06-10 Thread Craig Montgomery

After reading some of the comments here, I have to disagree with the basic 
premise of this thread (Silence is Golden) in one instance. Velocipedically 
speaking, there is nothing more mantra-like and soothing than the tick tick 
tick of a Sturmey Archer 3 Speed hub as you roll along on one of the great 
mechanical inventions of the 20th Century. Amen. 

Craig in Tucson

On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 12:12:58 PM UTC-7, Marty Gierke, Stewartstown 
PA wrote:
>
> Might be a first for this topic. I was out on my All Rounder this weekend, 
> a local rail trail that has sections of pavement here and there. My current 
> set up is one speed, using a Paul Melvin matched up to an eight speed 
> cogset on an XT cassette hub out back - one of the middle cogs, (not sure 
> which) and a single TA zephyr ring up front - a 36 I think. Anyway, one of 
> the best things about biking for me, and a goal of mine in general, is to 
> ride as quietly as possible. Similar to sculling on flat water, which I 
> have done my share of, the feeling of self propulsion in total silence 
> intrigues and pleases me. 
>
> On gravel, the Rivendell makes very little sound while pedaling or not, 
> just a light crackle/hiss from the tires. (700c Big Ben's in this case) But 
> on pavement, damn if all sound doesn't evaporate entirely! I love that! 
> Granted, at 64  - and having played drums for many years in my youth - my 
> hearing is diminished somewhat to begin with. Regardless, my mission to 
> ride silently appears to be achieved. Having said that, there may be room 
> to improve. I suppose a fixed gear hub would eliminate any chance of pawl 
> noise, and smooth tires may take it down a notch too. I have a White ENO 
> flipflop hub laced to a rim that would work, so that may be my next 
> experiment. 
>
> Any other ideas for silent running are welcome. 
>
> Marty
>
>

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Re: [RBW] I really need some help, I do not maintain my bikes myself and my old guy is no longer working. Bleriot Content

Thanks John

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 10:03 PM John H.  wrote:

> For what it’s worth, I’m currently running that chain with TA Syrius 9/10
> speed rings and have no issues.
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[RBW] Re: FS - Nitto, VO Racks, Paul Centerpulls, Misc.

Update: It looks like the rear Nitto Rack is the R-26. Like this: 
https://www.benscycle.com/nitto-r-26-rear-rack/rear_mount_rack_nitto__870-384-11/product
Still available, btw.

MM

On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 3:21:12 PM UTC-7, velomann wrote:
>
> Stuff I really like but realistically am not going to use in foreseeable 
> future:
>
> All prices are plus shipping in the 48.
>
> Nitto Campee Front Rack with detachable lowriders - $120. I love this rack 
> and ran it for several years and a few tours on my Rambler. That bike is 
> dead and the replacement has custom racks so I no longer have a bike for 
> this.  * for what it's worth I bought this rack from Manny, so you KNOW 
> it's bombproof.
>
> Nitto Rear Rack - $110. Not sure of the model. It's similar to the 32R/33R 
> but it's neither. Most closely resembles the Simworks On the Road Rack 
> https://www.sim.works/products/on-the-road-carrier?variant=16532776835 but 
> not exactly. Note the last hole on the dropout tang is cut off, there's a 
> chance if you wanted to mount this on a tall 700c bike it wouldn't fit. 
> Otherwise you should be fine. I'm not a rear rack guy so only used this a 
> couple times.
>
> Velo Orange Front and Rear Constructeur Racks - $50/each - Excellent 
> condition.
>
> Paul Racer Centerpull Brakes 2 pairs (one bike's worth) $150. These also 
> came off the Rambler. Excellent brakes. I ran them with 650x42 tires with 
> fenders. NOTE: These are NOT the ones with the center mount. You need posts 
> designed for centerpulls or mod your bike or build a custom for these 
> brakes.
>
> Paul anodized Brake Adjuster nuts - 2 red, 2 blue, $30. I used these to 
> bling the Centerpulls, but they will go on any Paul nutted brakes.
>
> Check the flickr album here for pics and other goodies for sale (brake 
> levers, derailleurs, Bridgestone saddle, B.O.B coin purse...)
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/8199310@N04/49992315273/in/dateposted-public/
>
> Mike M
>

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Re: [RBW] I really need some help, I do not maintain my bikes myself and my old guy is no longer working. Bleriot Content

2020-06-10 Thread John H.

For what it’s worth, I’m currently running that chain with TA Syrius 9/10 speed 
rings and have no issues. 

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[RBW] Re: FS - Nitto, VO Racks, Paul Centerpulls, Misc.

Nitto Campee Front Rack is SOLD.

MM

On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 3:21:12 PM UTC-7, velomann wrote:
>
> Stuff I really like but realistically am not going to use in foreseeable 
> future:
>
> All prices are plus shipping in the 48.
>
> Nitto Campee Front Rack with detachable lowriders - $120. I love this rack 
> and ran it for several years and a few tours on my Rambler. That bike is 
> dead and the replacement has custom racks so I no longer have a bike for 
> this.  * for what it's worth I bought this rack from Manny, so you KNOW 
> it's bombproof.
>
> Nitto Rear Rack - $110. Not sure of the model. It's similar to the 32R/33R 
> but it's neither. Most closely resembles the Simworks On the Road Rack 
> https://www.sim.works/products/on-the-road-carrier?variant=16532776835 but 
> not exactly. Note the last hole on the dropout tang is cut off, there's a 
> chance if you wanted to mount this on a tall 700c bike it wouldn't fit. 
> Otherwise you should be fine. I'm not a rear rack guy so only used this a 
> couple times.
>
> Velo Orange Front and Rear Constructeur Racks - $50/each - Excellent 
> condition.
>
> Paul Racer Centerpull Brakes 2 pairs (one bike's worth) $150. These also 
> came off the Rambler. Excellent brakes. I ran them with 650x42 tires with 
> fenders. NOTE: These are NOT the ones with the center mount. You need posts 
> designed for centerpulls or mod your bike or build a custom for these 
> brakes.
>
> Paul anodized Brake Adjuster nuts - 2 red, 2 blue, $30. I used these to 
> bling the Centerpulls, but they will go on any Paul nutted brakes.
>
> Check the flickr album here for pics and other goodies for sale (brake 
> levers, derailleurs, Bridgestone saddle, B.O.B coin purse...)
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/8199310@N04/49992315273/in/dateposted-public/
>
> Mike M
>

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Re: [RBW] I really need some help, I do not maintain my bikes myself and my old guy is no longer working. Bleriot Content

Peter White recommended Connex Chain model 908. any thoughts?

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 7:23 PM Joel Stern  wrote:

> Quick update.  So I took the wheel I had on the bike for when I put it on
> the rollers, the one I used on the first ride that felt the way I
> remembered the Bleriot feeling. Well it is perfect, I don't like the tire
> but that I will change and still get my drivetrain looked at. So here is my
> limited assumption, the FW and chain have to be replaced, maybe the chain
> rings on the TA, I have one new in package so I would just need 2. The
> whole drive trains is just gunked up and the shop led me to believe they
> would be cleaning the entire bike, did not happen. Too bad, on the lookout
> for a good bobish shop. There may be one in Northampton, not too far from
> home, there will of course be something further away, Harris may be one,
> and there is one other I am thinking of. The good news is I know what the
> problem is and now I can deal with it. I do have to clean my Freewheels
> that are on the 2 rear wheels I have, and the front rings, maybe not till I
> get my new chain, and they said they would be cleaning the chain too, so
> much for words. Thanks all.
>
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 4:46 PM Joel Stern  wrote:
>
>> Bleriot Tune Up
>>
>>
>> I had the Bleriot that had not been ridden in 10 years except for 3 rides
>> last week to the bike shop, a local shop, all kids, never used this shop
>> before. I was told when I brought it in the rear derailleur was bent, but I
>> asked them to check the hanger as advised by Rivendell.
>>
>>
>> The bike had been having a rough not smooth feeling when pedaling in many
>> gears, almost all. I thought the rear wheel was out of true, etc.
>>
>>
>> So I pick the bike up today and I was told it is great, rear Derailleur
>> and hanger are fine. So I take it for a ride and the same rough feeling
>> after shifting. They took one link out of the chain and said that it was
>> too loose but nothing really changed.
>>
>> When I came back and talked to them I had a few things to ask them
>>
>>
>>1. The rear brake was rubbing on the rim, I was told it was because
>>of my rack and the rack had to come off, when I got home I loosened the
>>quick release on the wheel and moved the rim over and it is fine now as 
>> far
>>as the brake is not rubbing. I was very surprised this your kid who was 
>> not
>>low level, not a wrench but he should have known.
>>
>>
>> 2. For the rough pedaling feeling I was told the following and I will put
>> in quotes as best as I can remember. Now I have a TA Zephyr crank, they
>> said I need a whole new drive train, I told them there was no way I was not
>> going to use the TA, and that I need a  new FW (I have 2 at home
>> that look as new or as close as possible), and I need a new chain (this one
>> I buy more than the first two)
>>
>>
>> So here is what I was told.  “the chain needs to be replaced and the
>> cassette (he did not know it was a FW) needs replacing and the crank needs
>> to be replaced as it is worn”. “We know this because of this little tool we
>> have that measure then chain” Maybe it is but the bike was used for 2 or so
>> years, and it was not my main bike as my Custom was before the car accident
>> the sidelined riding for me. It sat for 10 years with a bit of use on
>> rollers with a fork mount, very little use due to my back and knees. So I
>> raided my parts bin when I got home.
>>
>>
>> I found my TA BB tool (not sure if they will need that (not this shop but
>> another that I will now have to hunt for but I can do that).
>>
>>
>> Here are all of the parts I found
>>
>>
>> 2 13x26 FW’s in almost if not new condition.
>>
>>
>> I use  the TA crank w/ 48/38/24
>>
>>
>> Now I did find one new TA 38 in the basement, all the rest are no brand
>>
>>
>> If anyone has any TA 110 front rings please let me know
>>
>>
>> I found d 38, 36, 28, 26, 24
>>
>>
>> I did not find a 48.
>>
>>
>> OK I need advise on what your thought are. I really want the bike to ride
>> smooth again when pedaling, I was told if I had them put a new chain on “it
>> would make everything worse”.
>>
>>
>> Also they thought the Deore rear I brought  would not work as it is a 9
>> speed, I had to explain to this nice kid it did not matter as I friction
>> shift.
>>
>>
>> Bonus, I also found a NOS suntour rear Derailleur in the basement but
>> think I will keep the Deore as well as it was not expensive at REI.
>>
>>
>> Please help
>>
>>
>> I am near Springfield MA if anyone knows of a good bike shop in the
>> Hartford, Springfield, Nothampton area.
>>
>>
>> I am cross posting to iBob as well.
>>
>>
>> Joel
>>
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[RBW] FS - Nitto, VO Racks, Paul Centerpulls, Misc.

Reid,
I didn’t receive PM. 

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Re: [RBW] I really need some help, I do not maintain my bikes myself and my old guy is no longer working. Bleriot Content

Quick update.  So I took the wheel I had on the bike for when I put it on
the rollers, the one I used on the first ride that felt the way I
remembered the Bleriot feeling. Well it is perfect, I don't like the tire
but that I will change and still get my drivetrain looked at. So here is my
limited assumption, the FW and chain have to be replaced, maybe the chain
rings on the TA, I have one new in package so I would just need 2. The
whole drive trains is just gunked up and the shop led me to believe they
would be cleaning the entire bike, did not happen. Too bad, on the lookout
for a good bobish shop. There may be one in Northampton, not too far from
home, there will of course be something further away, Harris may be one,
and there is one other I am thinking of. The good news is I know what the
problem is and now I can deal with it. I do have to clean my Freewheels
that are on the 2 rear wheels I have, and the front rings, maybe not till I
get my new chain, and they said they would be cleaning the chain too, so
much for words. Thanks all.

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 4:46 PM Joel Stern  wrote:

> Bleriot Tune Up
>
>
> I had the Bleriot that had not been ridden in 10 years except for 3 rides
> last week to the bike shop, a local shop, all kids, never used this shop
> before. I was told when I brought it in the rear derailleur was bent, but I
> asked them to check the hanger as advised by Rivendell.
>
>
> The bike had been having a rough not smooth feeling when pedaling in many
> gears, almost all. I thought the rear wheel was out of true, etc.
>
>
> So I pick the bike up today and I was told it is great, rear Derailleur
> and hanger are fine. So I take it for a ride and the same rough feeling
> after shifting. They took one link out of the chain and said that it was
> too loose but nothing really changed.
>
> When I came back and talked to them I had a few things to ask them
>
>
>1. The rear brake was rubbing on the rim, I was told it was because of
>my rack and the rack had to come off, when I got home I loosened the quick
>release on the wheel and moved the rim over and it is fine now as far as
>the brake is not rubbing. I was very surprised this your kid who was not
>low level, not a wrench but he should have known.
>
>
> 2. For the rough pedaling feeling I was told the following and I will put
> in quotes as best as I can remember. Now I have a TA Zephyr crank, they
> said I need a whole new drive train, I told them there was no way I was not
> going to use the TA, and that I need a  new FW (I have 2 at home
> that look as new or as close as possible), and I need a new chain (this one
> I buy more than the first two)
>
>
> So here is what I was told.  “the chain needs to be replaced and the
> cassette (he did not know it was a FW) needs replacing and the crank needs
> to be replaced as it is worn”. “We know this because of this little tool we
> have that measure then chain” Maybe it is but the bike was used for 2 or so
> years, and it was not my main bike as my Custom was before the car accident
> the sidelined riding for me. It sat for 10 years with a bit of use on
> rollers with a fork mount, very little use due to my back and knees. So I
> raided my parts bin when I got home.
>
>
> I found my TA BB tool (not sure if they will need that (not this shop but
> another that I will now have to hunt for but I can do that).
>
>
> Here are all of the parts I found
>
>
> 2 13x26 FW’s in almost if not new condition.
>
>
> I use  the TA crank w/ 48/38/24
>
>
> Now I did find one new TA 38 in the basement, all the rest are no brand
>
>
> If anyone has any TA 110 front rings please let me know
>
>
> I found d 38, 36, 28, 26, 24
>
>
> I did not find a 48.
>
>
> OK I need advise on what your thought are. I really want the bike to ride
> smooth again when pedaling, I was told if I had them put a new chain on “it
> would make everything worse”.
>
>
> Also they thought the Deore rear I brought  would not work as it is a 9
> speed, I had to explain to this nice kid it did not matter as I friction
> shift.
>
>
> Bonus, I also found a NOS suntour rear Derailleur in the basement but
> think I will keep the Deore as well as it was not expensive at REI.
>
>
> Please help
>
>
> I am near Springfield MA if anyone knows of a good bike shop in the
> Hartford, Springfield, Nothampton area.
>
>
> I am cross posting to iBob as well.
>
>
> Joel
>
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Re: [RBW] I really need some help, I do not maintain my bikes myself and my old guy is no longer working. Bleriot Content

Hugh, thank you. How are things with you?  I will call him now although he
may not be in.

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 6:20 PM hugh flynn  wrote:

> Hey Joel!
>
> I would give Parker at Laughing Dog in Amherst a call. He'll be able to
> help diagnose the problem.
>
> Hugh
>
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 4:46 PM Joel Stern  wrote:
>
>> Bleriot Tune Up
>>
>>
>> I had the Bleriot that had not been ridden in 10 years except for 3 rides
>> last week to the bike shop, a local shop, all kids, never used this shop
>> before. I was told when I brought it in the rear derailleur was bent, but I
>> asked them to check the hanger as advised by Rivendell.
>>
>>
>> The bike had been having a rough not smooth feeling when pedaling in many
>> gears, almost all. I thought the rear wheel was out of true, etc.
>>
>>
>> So I pick the bike up today and I was told it is great, rear Derailleur
>> and hanger are fine. So I take it for a ride and the same rough feeling
>> after shifting. They took one link out of the chain and said that it was
>> too loose but nothing really changed.
>>
>> When I came back and talked to them I had a few things to ask them
>>
>>
>>1. The rear brake was rubbing on the rim, I was told it was because
>>of my rack and the rack had to come off, when I got home I loosened the
>>quick release on the wheel and moved the rim over and it is fine now as 
>> far
>>as the brake is not rubbing. I was very surprised this your kid who was 
>> not
>>low level, not a wrench but he should have known.
>>
>>
>> 2. For the rough pedaling feeling I was told the following and I will put
>> in quotes as best as I can remember. Now I have a TA Zephyr crank, they
>> said I need a whole new drive train, I told them there was no way I was not
>> going to use the TA, and that I need a  new FW (I have 2 at home
>> that look as new or as close as possible), and I need a new chain (this one
>> I buy more than the first two)
>>
>>
>> So here is what I was told.  “the chain needs to be replaced and the
>> cassette (he did not know it was a FW) needs replacing and the crank needs
>> to be replaced as it is worn”. “We know this because of this little tool we
>> have that measure then chain” Maybe it is but the bike was used for 2 or so
>> years, and it was not my main bike as my Custom was before the car accident
>> the sidelined riding for me. It sat for 10 years with a bit of use on
>> rollers with a fork mount, very little use due to my back and knees. So I
>> raided my parts bin when I got home.
>>
>>
>> I found my TA BB tool (not sure if they will need that (not this shop but
>> another that I will now have to hunt for but I can do that).
>>
>>
>> Here are all of the parts I found
>>
>>
>> 2 13x26 FW’s in almost if not new condition.
>>
>>
>> I use  the TA crank w/ 48/38/24
>>
>>
>> Now I did find one new TA 38 in the basement, all the rest are no brand
>>
>>
>> If anyone has any TA 110 front rings please let me know
>>
>>
>> I found d 38, 36, 28, 26, 24
>>
>>
>> I did not find a 48.
>>
>>
>> OK I need advise on what your thought are. I really want the bike to ride
>> smooth again when pedaling, I was told if I had them put a new chain on “it
>> would make everything worse”.
>>
>>
>> Also they thought the Deore rear I brought  would not work as it is a 9
>> speed, I had to explain to this nice kid it did not matter as I friction
>> shift.
>>
>>
>> Bonus, I also found a NOS suntour rear Derailleur in the basement but
>> think I will keep the Deore as well as it was not expensive at REI.
>>
>>
>> Please help
>>
>>
>> I am near Springfield MA if anyone knows of a good bike shop in the
>> Hartford, Springfield, Nothampton area.
>>
>>
>> I am cross posting to iBob as well.
>>
>>
>> Joel
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[RBW] FS - Nitto, VO Racks, Paul Centerpulls, Misc.

2020-06-10 Thread Reid Echols

PM sent re: the Racers 

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[RBW] Re: FS - Nitto, VO Racks, Paul Centerpulls, Misc.

Sorry - try this link: 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/8199310@N04/albums/72157714655122882



On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 3:21:12 PM UTC-7, velomann wrote:
>
> Stuff I really like but realistically am not going to use in foreseeable 
> future:
>
> All prices are plus shipping in the 48.
>
> Nitto Campee Front Rack with detachable lowriders - $120. I love this rack 
> and ran it for several years and a few tours on my Rambler. That bike is 
> dead and the replacement has custom racks so I no longer have a bike for 
> this.  * for what it's worth I bought this rack from Manny, so you KNOW 
> it's bombproof.
>
> Nitto Rear Rack - $110. Not sure of the model. It's similar to the 32R/33R 
> but it's neither. Most closely resembles the Simworks On the Road Rack 
> https://www.sim.works/products/on-the-road-carrier?variant=16532776835 but 
> not exactly. Note the last hole on the dropout tang is cut off, there's a 
> chance if you wanted to mount this on a tall 700c bike it wouldn't fit. 
> Otherwise you should be fine. I'm not a rear rack guy so only used this a 
> couple times.
>
> Velo Orange Front and Rear Constructeur Racks - $50/each - Excellent 
> condition.
>
> Paul Racer Centerpull Brakes 2 pairs (one bike's worth) $150. These also 
> came off the Rambler. Excellent brakes. I ran them with 650x42 tires with 
> fenders. NOTE: These are NOT the ones with the center mount. You need posts 
> designed for centerpulls or mod your bike or build a custom for these 
> brakes.
>
> Paul anodized Brake Adjuster nuts - 2 red, 2 blue, $30. I used these to 
> bling the Centerpulls, but they will go on any Paul nutted brakes.
>
> Check the flickr album here for pics and other goodies for sale (brake 
> levers, derailleurs, Bridgestone saddle, B.O.B coin purse...)
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/8199310@N04/49992315273/in/dateposted-public/
>
> Mike M
>

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[RBW] FS - Nitto, VO Racks, Paul Centerpulls, Misc.

2020-06-10 Thread WETH

PM sent in Campee rack.
Thanks.

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[RBW] FS - Nitto, VO Racks, Paul Centerpulls, Misc.

Stuff I really like but realistically am not going to use in foreseeable
future:

All prices are plus shipping in the 48.

Nitto Campee Front Rack with detachable lowriders - $120. I love this rack
and ran it for several years and a few tours on my Rambler. That bike is
dead and the replacement has custom racks so I no longer have a bike for
this. * for what it's worth I bought this rack from Manny, so you KNOW
it's bombproof.

Nitto Rear Rack - $110. Not sure of the model. It's similar to the 32R/33R
but it's neither. Most closely resembles the Simworks On the Road Rack
https://www.sim.works/products/on-the-road-carrier?variant=16532776835 but
not exactly. Note the last hole on the dropout tang is cut off, there's a
chance if you wanted to mount this on a tall 700c bike it wouldn't fit.
Otherwise you should be fine. I'm not a rear rack guy so only used this a
couple times.

Velo Orange Front and Rear Constructeur Racks - $50/each - Excellent
condition.

Paul Racer Centerpull Brakes 2 pairs (one bike's worth) $150. These also
came off the Rambler. Excellent brakes. I ran them with 650x42 tires with
fenders. NOTE: These are NOT the ones with the center mount. You need posts
designed for centerpulls or mod your bike or build a custom for these
brakes.

Paul anodized Brake Adjuster nuts - 2 red, 2 blue, $30. I used these to
bling the Centerpulls, but they will go on any Paul nutted brakes.

Check the flickr album here for pics and other goodies for sale (brake
levers, derailleurs, Bridgestone saddle, B.O.B coin purse...)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/8199310@N04/49992315273/in/dateposted-public/

Mike M

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Re: [RBW] I really need some help, I do not maintain my bikes myself and my old guy is no longer working. Bleriot Content

2020-06-10 Thread hugh flynn

Hey Joel!

I would give Parker at Laughing Dog in Amherst a call. He'll be able to
help diagnose the problem.

Hugh

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 4:46 PM Joel Stern  wrote:

> Bleriot Tune Up
>
>
> I had the Bleriot that had not been ridden in 10 years except for 3 rides
> last week to the bike shop, a local shop, all kids, never used this shop
> before. I was told when I brought it in the rear derailleur was bent, but I
> asked them to check the hanger as advised by Rivendell.
>
>
> The bike had been having a rough not smooth feeling when pedaling in many
> gears, almost all. I thought the rear wheel was out of true, etc.
>
>
> So I pick the bike up today and I was told it is great, rear Derailleur
> and hanger are fine. So I take it for a ride and the same rough feeling
> after shifting. They took one link out of the chain and said that it was
> too loose but nothing really changed.
>
> When I came back and talked to them I had a few things to ask them
>
>
>1. The rear brake was rubbing on the rim, I was told it was because of
>my rack and the rack had to come off, when I got home I loosened the quick
>release on the wheel and moved the rim over and it is fine now as far as
>the brake is not rubbing. I was very surprised this your kid who was not
>low level, not a wrench but he should have known.
>
>
> 2. For the rough pedaling feeling I was told the following and I will put
> in quotes as best as I can remember. Now I have a TA Zephyr crank, they
> said I need a whole new drive train, I told them there was no way I was not
> going to use the TA, and that I need a  new FW (I have 2 at home
> that look as new or as close as possible), and I need a new chain (this one
> I buy more than the first two)
>
>
> So here is what I was told.  “the chain needs to be replaced and the
> cassette (he did not know it was a FW) needs replacing and the crank needs
> to be replaced as it is worn”. “We know this because of this little tool we
> have that measure then chain” Maybe it is but the bike was used for 2 or so
> years, and it was not my main bike as my Custom was before the car accident
> the sidelined riding for me. It sat for 10 years with a bit of use on
> rollers with a fork mount, very little use due to my back and knees. So I
> raided my parts bin when I got home.
>
>
> I found my TA BB tool (not sure if they will need that (not this shop but
> another that I will now have to hunt for but I can do that).
>
>
> Here are all of the parts I found
>
>
> 2 13x26 FW’s in almost if not new condition.
>
>
> I use  the TA crank w/ 48/38/24
>
>
> Now I did find one new TA 38 in the basement, all the rest are no brand
>
>
> If anyone has any TA 110 front rings please let me know
>
>
> I found d 38, 36, 28, 26, 24
>
>
> I did not find a 48.
>
>
> OK I need advise on what your thought are. I really want the bike to ride
> smooth again when pedaling, I was told if I had them put a new chain on “it
> would make everything worse”.
>
>
> Also they thought the Deore rear I brought  would not work as it is a 9
> speed, I had to explain to this nice kid it did not matter as I friction
> shift.
>
>
> Bonus, I also found a NOS suntour rear Derailleur in the basement but
> think I will keep the Deore as well as it was not expensive at REI.
>
>
> Please help
>
>
> I am near Springfield MA if anyone knows of a good bike shop in the
> Hartford, Springfield, Nothampton area.
>
>
> I am cross posting to iBob as well.
>
>
> Joel
>
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[RBW] Cracked Tension Bolt on B17

2020-06-10 Thread Brady Smith

I know there are a few old threads on this but I thought I’d ask if anyone had 
recent experiences of replacing the tension bolt on a B17 saddle. Mine has 
snapped after about 3000 miles, or roughly a year. I haven’t heard back from 
Brooks customer service yet and the only replacement I could find on the webs 
will take about 3 weeks to get to me (odd thing to be sold out everywhere...). 
Is this doable at home? Has anyone successfully substituted something from the 
hardware store? I’ll be riding my backup bike with a Cambium in the meantime 
and after today’s ride I can confirm that the Cambium is not nearly as 
comfortable...

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Re: [RBW] I really need some help, I do not maintain my bikes myself and my old guy is no longer working. Bleriot Content

Yup, I think you are 100% correct Joe, I will address this as soon as I
find a shop I trust.

Thanks

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 5:01 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> I think you'll be good with the new FW, 8-speed chain and chainrings. It
> sounds like your old chain stretched, then ground away on your old cogs and
> rings.
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[RBW] Re: The Sound of Silence - Just Ride Quietly

2020-06-10 Thread William deRosset

Dear Marty,

Interestingly enough, none of my fixed wheels were quieter than bikes with 
freewheels (while pedaling). I value my fixed wheel machine for its overall 
quiet simplicity, ease of maintenance, lovely lines--but the light crackle 
of the 1/8" chain over the crankset cannot be denied when on smooth 
pavement.  Two of my geared machines are actually quieter (when pedaling). 
Once coasting, of course, no freewheel machine need apply for the 
silent-running race. Shimano freewheels and cassette hub bodies win the 
quiet award there, and I think there is a roller-clutch (onyx?) that is 
very close to completely silent. 

proper fat tubulars sing on pavement. The quietest tires I have used are 
the Stampede Pass tires.

There is a tire noise hierarchy on pavement, anyway:

Sing,
Hiss,
Hum,
Growl,
Buzz,
Rumble, and
Clatter.

Unless you're driving studs, no tire should clatter.

I try to avoid tires that Growl, Buzz, Rumble, or Clatter for paved 
road-going use. Life is too short. 

Best Regards,

Will
William M. deRosset
Fort Collins, CO

On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 1:12:58 PM UTC-6, Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA 
wrote:
>
> Might be a first for this topic. I was out on my All Rounder this weekend, 
> a local rail trail that has sections of pavement here and there. My current 
> set up is one speed, using a Paul Melvin matched up to an eight speed 
> cogset on an XT cassette hub out back - one of the middle cogs, (not sure 
> which) and a single TA zephyr ring up front - a 36 I think. Anyway, one of 
> the best things about biking for me, and a goal of mine in general, is to 
> ride as quietly as possible. Similar to sculling on flat water, which I 
> have done my share of, the feeling of self propulsion in total silence 
> intrigues and pleases me. 
>
> On gravel, the Rivendell makes very little sound while pedaling or not, 
> just a light crackle/hiss from the tires. (700c Big Ben's in this case) But 
> on pavement, damn if all sound doesn't evaporate entirely! I love that! 
> Granted, at 64  - and having played drums for many years in my youth - my 
> hearing is diminished somewhat to begin with. Regardless, my mission to 
> ride silently appears to be achieved. Having said that, there may be room 
> to improve. I suppose a fixed gear hub would eliminate any chance of pawl 
> noise, and smooth tires may take it down a notch too. I have a White ENO 
> flipflop hub laced to a rim that would work, so that may be my next 
> experiment. 
>
> Any other ideas for silent running are welcome. 
>
> Marty
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Question for Deacon Patrick

Thanks, Patrick. As it stands, with more advice and research, I have asked
the shop to order me the latest Surly fixed/fixed hub; I have Phils on the
gofast, but IME, the Surly bearings seem to be as long lasting*, at least
in my conditions. I am tempted by the just-plain-niceness of the Phils,
thought, and after hearing your report on the Pauls, would probably choose
Phil if I decide/decided to order for looks.

* I preemptively replaced the Phil's bearings at about 13K when I had the
Phil bb bearings replaced and the frame altered; the (130 mm
hub) Surlys have ~11K and more dirt and rain and still feel new.

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 1:31 PM 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Paul and Phil. The Paul needed the bearings replaced after a year, so I
> put in Phil bearings. Grin. Doing it again, I'd go Phil. Surly is
> attractive for the price, but the price of having to redo a wheel dissuaded
> me from testing it out for my riding.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 9:20:24 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Sorry for broadcasting this, but I don't have Patrick's email address.
>>
>> Patrick: What fixed gear hubs have you had most success with offroad? I'd
>> like to replace the Surly 130 mm OL hub with some 120 OL hub, but I've not
>> bought a fixed hub except for 2 ENOs since 2006.
>>
>> The newer model of the Surly (with the replacement axle) seems
>> bulletproof, but I daresay yours might be even more bullet proof.
>>
>> SIlver, 120 mm, 32 hole, hollow axle for QR or allen bolts. Fixed/fixed
>> preferred but fixed/free or even fixed/nothing acceptable.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
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[RBW] Free for pick-up: 14 issues of BQ

2020-06-10 Thread Conway Bennett

I have 14 issues be of Bicycle Quarterly from between 2005 and 2016 that I have 
not, so probably will not read.  Anyone who wants them and can come get them 
can have them.  They are located in La Grange Park just west of Chicago.  
Thanks.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Suggestions for best-value 120 mm, 32-hole, silver, sealed-bearing fixed hub?

Thanks. I have offers or sources for hollow axle models.

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 2:27 PM S  wrote:

> My name isn't Steve, but no worries.
>
> I don't know who makes the Dia Compe hubs, but I also have some Formula
> hubs and the Dia Compes are noticeably nicer.
>
> I suggested these because I wasn't sure if QR compatibility was an
> absolute requirement or not. They have two out of three -- sealed and good
> bearings.
>
> On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 11:09:49 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Steve. Do you know if these are made by Formula?
>>
>> At any rate, they're nice, but I would prefer a QR-compatible axle.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 11:21 AM S  wrote:
>>
>>> These don't take a QR skewer, but I have used them on my last two builds
>>> and I like them a lot:
>>>
>>> http://www.diacompe.com.tw/product/gran-compe-ii-hub/
>>>
>>> Around $50-65 for the rear, depending on where you buy them.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 6:48:46 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I have to buy a new fixed road hub since the Surly I've been using
 apparently can't  be respaced to the required 120 mm.

 I've not bought a fixed hub since 2006 or so, tho' I did upgrade my
 Surly axle and bearings about 2010, so I'm interested in suggestions.

 I'd like:

 Adequate sealing against dust and occasional rain;
 Hollow axle for QR or allen bolts;
 Decent bearings.

 I know and own Phil, but I am trying in this case to buy on merit or
 value and not on status. If Phil or Paul don't add 50% or 100% more value
 (metaphor) then I'd rather not pay half or all again as much as necessary.

 I see that Surly still makes a 120 OL silver 32 hole hub and that you
 can buy a hollow, threaded axle for it.

 Miche, Velo Orange, DT, Formula: I've looked at all of these, but not
 all take QR skewers.

 Your (singular and plural) recommendations?

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Clem H or L 52

2020-06-10 Thread Chad

I have a barely ridden 52 H complete that I planning to sell if you haven’t 
already found one.  I would consider selling it as frame only.

On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 6:43:38 AM UTC-5, Mark Roland wrote:
>
> Did you give Riv a call to see if they have anything kicking around the 
> warehouse? I've heard stories.
>
> On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 at 5:21:52 PM UTC-4, Doug Hansford wrote:
>>
>> I'll try again even though these are hard to find. I'm wanting a frame 
>> but will take a complete bike. I plan to buy the upcoming Platypus but 
>> since that won't be until years end I would like a frame to build up. If 
>> you have a Clem H, or Clem L in 52 and are looking to sell, let me know. 
>> Would also consider aCheviot, Atlantis or Rosco Bubbe. I'm really just 
>> itching to build a bike up.
>> Doug Hansford
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Commuter Tire for Hunq

True, Edwin, my comment can't possibly apply to every variation that moniker 
has been applied to. In the words of Neil Young, "Take my advice, don't listen 
to me." 路

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[RBW] I really need some help, I do not maintain my bikes myself and my old guy is no longer working. Bleriot Content

I think you'll be good with the new FW, 8-speed chain and chainrings. It sounds 
like your old chain stretched, then ground away on your old cogs and rings. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Commuter Tire for Hunq

2020-06-10 Thread Edwin W

Joe,

I don't think my marathon supremes are bricks, so I went to see what 
Schwalbe offers and found so many marathons!! The heaviest Marathon plus 
MTB is listed at 1270g* per tire (how much does a brick weigh, anyway?), to 
the Marathon E plus (930g), Marathon Plus HS440 (900g), Marathon Plus Tour 
HS404 (890g), Marathn GT HS480, GT Tour HS 485, and GT 365 HS475 (all 
listed as 765g),  is your mind spinning yet, mine is, to the Marathon HS420 
(the original, 730g), Marathon Mondial HS 428 (570g), Marathon Almotion 
HS453 (500g), Marathon Almotion HS603 (490g), Marathon Racer HS429 (465g - 
called on their webpage the "lightest marathon," but apparently not in this 
size) and the Marathon Supreme HS469 (440g). 

Whew!! Who thinks that many models is a good idea

Liking my marathon supreme 50-622 640g evolution line, folding bead tire 
for the rear of my bike,

Edwin
Edwin

*all weights are for 35-622 ex the MTB doesn't have that size

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> For the OP, I've never used Big Bens to compare but Marathons are bricks. 
> They will get you through the post-apocalyptic dystopia without many flats, 
> but light and fun they are not. 

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[RBW] I really need some help, I do not maintain my bikes myself and my old guy is no longer working. Bleriot Content

Bleriot Tune Up

I had the Bleriot that had not been ridden in 10 years except for 3 rides
last week to the bike shop, a local shop, all kids, never used this shop
before. I was told when I brought it in the rear derailleur was bent, but I
asked them to check the hanger as advised by Rivendell.

The bike had been having a rough not smooth feeling when pedaling in many
gears, almost all. I thought the rear wheel was out of true, etc.

So I pick the bike up today and I was told it is great, rear Derailleur and
hanger are fine. So I take it for a ride and the same rough feeling after
shifting. They took one link out of the chain and said that it was too
loose but nothing really changed.

When I came back and talked to them I had a few things to ask them

1. The rear brake was rubbing on the rim, I was told it was because of
my rack and the rack had to come off, when I got home I loosened the quick
release on the wheel and moved the rim over and it is fine now as far as
the brake is not rubbing. I was very surprised this your kid who was not
low level, not a wrench but he should have known.

2. For the rough pedaling feeling I was told the following and I will put
in quotes as best as I can remember. Now I have a TA Zephyr crank, they
said I need a whole new drive train, I told them there was no way I was not
going to use the TA, and that I need a new FW (I have 2 at home
that look as new or as close as possible), and I need a new chain (this one
I buy more than the first two)

So here is what I was told. “the chain needs to be replaced and the
cassette (he did not know it was a FW) needs replacing and the crank needs
to be replaced as it is worn”. “We know this because of this little tool we
have that measure then chain” Maybe it is but the bike was used for 2 or so
years, and it was not my main bike as my Custom was before the car accident
the sidelined riding for me. It sat for 10 years with a bit of use on
rollers with a fork mount, very little use due to my back and knees. So I
raided my parts bin when I got home.

I found my TA BB tool (not sure if they will need that (not this shop but
another that I will now have to hunt for but I can do that).

Here are all of the parts I found

2 13x26 FW’s in almost if not new condition.

I use the TA crank w/ 48/38/24

Now I did find one new TA 38 in the basement, all the rest are no brand

If anyone has any TA 110 front rings please let me know

I found d 38, 36, 28, 26, 24

I did not find a 48.

OK I need advise on what your thought are. I really want the bike to ride
smooth again when pedaling, I was told if I had them put a new chain on “it
would make everything worse”.

Also they thought the Deore rear I brought would not work as it is a 9
speed, I had to explain to this nice kid it did not matter as I friction
shift.

Bonus, I also found a NOS suntour rear Derailleur in the basement but think
I will keep the Deore as well as it was not expensive at REI.

Please help

I am near Springfield MA if anyone knows of a good bike shop in the
Hartford, Springfield, Nothampton area.

I am cross posting to iBob as well.

Joel

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Re: [RBW] Re: Next Level Clementine

2020-06-10 Thread Doug Hansford

I've spent more than I care to admit on bicycles and bicycle upgrades over 
the years. But, that's part of the fun of it as a hobby and I would not 
begrudge anyone spending on their bikes. We aren't all bike mechanics or 
know how to install parts, etc. And, that's okay. LBShops can certainly use 
the business. I've dabbled in installing parts and adjusting brakes and can 
do a decent job. I'm even considering building up an Atlantis soon but have 
my LBS as a backup and I suspect I'll need their help. 
Doug Hansford

On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 2:30:52 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> First, that price for that much labor - and how well it came out - is 
> practically free! Second, remind me to pay up next time instead of doing 
> the build myself. After finishing up my custom - which took AGES - and 
> dealing with the results of my arthritic wrenching hand doing stuff it 
> would rather not anymore, I remembered Mark @ Riv asking, "Am I building it 
> or you?" Next time I'm paying up. I'm over it.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Commuter Tire for Hunq

2020-06-10 Thread ANDREW ERMAN

Marathon Plus tires are great on an E bike with a lot of power.

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 1:20 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> For the OP, I've never used Big Bens to compare but Marathons are bricks.
> They will get you through the post-apocalyptic dystopia without many flats,
> but light and fun they are not.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Suggestions for best-value 120 mm, 32-hole, silver, sealed-bearing fixed hub?

2020-06-10 Thread S

My name isn't Steve, but no worries. 

I don't know who makes the Dia Compe hubs, but I also have some Formula 
hubs and the Dia Compes are noticeably nicer. 

I suggested these because I wasn't sure if QR compatibility was an absolute 
requirement or not. They have two out of three -- sealed and good bearings. 

On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 11:09:49 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Thanks, Steve. Do you know if these are made by Formula?
>
> At any rate, they're nice, but I would prefer a QR-compatible axle.
>
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 11:21 AM S > wrote:
>
>> These don't take a QR skewer, but I have used them on my last two builds 
>> and I like them a lot:
>>
>> http://www.diacompe.com.tw/product/gran-compe-ii-hub/
>>
>> Around $50-65 for the rear, depending on where you buy them. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 6:48:46 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> I have to buy a new fixed road hub since the Surly I've been using 
>>> apparently can't  be respaced to the required 120 mm. 
>>>
>>> I've not bought a fixed hub since 2006 or so, tho' I did upgrade my 
>>> Surly axle and bearings about 2010, so I'm interested in suggestions.
>>>
>>> I'd like:
>>>
>>> Adequate sealing against dust and occasional rain;
>>> Hollow axle for QR or allen bolts;
>>> Decent bearings.
>>>
>>> I know and own Phil, but I am trying in this case to buy on merit or 
>>> value and not on status. If Phil or Paul don't add 50% or 100% more value 
>>> (metaphor) then I'd rather not pay half or all again as much as necessary.
>>>
>>> I see that Surly still makes a 120 OL silver 32 hole hub and that you 
>>> can buy a hollow, threaded axle for it.
>>>
>>> Miche, Velo Orange, DT, Formula: I've looked at all of these, but not 
>>> all take QR skewers.
>>>
>>> Your (singular and plural) recommendations?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Commuter Tire for Hunq

For the OP, I've never used Big Bens to compare but Marathons are bricks. They 
will get you through the post-apocalyptic dystopia without many flats, but 
light and fun they are not. 

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[RBW] Re: The Sound of Silence - Just Ride Quietly

It's definitely a thing, Chris King's Instagram is called ChrisKingBuzz. 
Personally I like it, my WI cassette hub and the Dos freewheel on my Frank 
Jones are buzzy and I think it's cool. But I'm clearly a rad hipster 藍

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[RBW] Re: Question for Deacon Patrick

2020-06-10 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch

Paul and Phil. The Paul needed the bearings replaced after a year, so I put 
in Phil bearings. Grin. Doing it again, I'd go Phil. Surly is attractive 
for the price, but the price of having to redo a wheel dissuaded me from 
testing it out for my riding.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 9:20:24 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
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> Sorry for broadcasting this, but I don't have Patrick's email address.
>
> Patrick: What fixed gear hubs have you had most success with offroad? I'd 
> like to replace the Surly 130 mm OL hub with some 120 OL hub, but I've not 
> bought a fixed hub except for 2 ENOs since 2006. 
>
> The newer model of the Surly (with the replacement axle) seems 
> bulletproof, but I daresay yours might be even more bullet proof.
>
> SIlver, 120 mm, 32 hole, hollow axle for QR or allen bolts. Fixed/fixed 
> preferred but fixed/free or even fixed/nothing acceptable.
>
> Thanks.
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[RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

2020-06-10 Thread Michael / SF

If you decide to DIY, this video really helped me out with my SimWorks x 
Honjo install: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WSq1DTvHOI

Highly recommend this fella's other videos if you want to watch beautiful 
rando bikes cruising around the San Francisco Bay Area.

Michael
SF / CA

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>
> These are on the list to do in the near future. However, if I have to get 
> into metal drilling or cutting, I'm going to need to make arrangements for 
> someone to help/do the install.
>
> What non-standard issues will I run into installing these:
>
> https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/fenders/rene-herse-smooth-fenders-700c-for-48-52-mm-tires-h80-700c/
> on a 66cm silver (final run) QB?
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
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[RBW] Re: The Sound of Silence - Just Ride Quietly

2020-06-10 Thread Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY

The folks at the local bike boutique told me that that sound is "the sweet 
sweet sound of engagement". I wanted one for avoiding bell soundings, but my 
$50 bell has settled my fears. 
DIIing...
-Kai

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[RBW] Re: In Praise of Road Bikes with Road Tires

2020-06-10 Thread Fryfam

Super Tourist tubing or not, no doubt that long TT enhances the flex-magic 
for your 165-lb, long torso-ed body geo. nice ride!

On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 2:01:01 PM UTC-7, Garth wrote:
>
> Yeah Ted it seems I do prefer frames that have some flex in the right 
> places. The 531ST tubes are intended for touring, slightly thicker wall 
> diameter than the regular 531. OF course I know nothing of designing bikes, 
> but thankfully the designer/builder does and he would not do something he 
> wasn't comfortable with. Tall head tube, yes, I've seen taller ! Fork flex 
> is in the blades. 
>
> In regards to the tubing, 531 seems to have a kind of PFM status... pure 
> f'n magic for their ride characteristics. 
>
> https://www.bretonbikes.com/homepage/cycling-article-blog/87-reynolds-531-tubing-the-cycle-tourists-friend
>
> My takeaway from all this is that in this case a "lively" frame will feel 
> that way with large of range of tire quality whereas a frame that isn't 
> so lively, even with specifically "supple" tires isn't going to compensate 
> for it's not so liveliness. Improve the ride, yes. 
>
> I can see how those that have both a lively frame and supple tires would 
> find it blissful !  
>
> At 165lbs or so I would have to go really low on the Bomba to get a pinch 
> flat as I naturally ride "light" over things. I have Big Ben 50 on there 
> now @25-30 psi. I'll try lowering them off the pavement and see how it 
> goes. As for other tires  man it's like pie in the sky. They all look 
> good from afar ! Ahahaha !
>
> In regards to George's mishap, I've heard him account what happened a 
> couple of times and what failed was the Trek frames carbon steering tube. 
> He was trying to land softly to the left when it was happening but since 
> the failure happened so fast he was a mere passenger. This was the early 
> days of carbon frame construction. 
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 1:15:53 PM UTC-4, ted wrote:
>>
>> My Bombadil has Pacenti Quasi-Moto tires. I would think any non uber 
>> stout 2 inch tire would behave much the same in this respect.
>> I have another more roadish bike with 47mm tires (wtb byway) I run at 
>> ~25psi when I want things cushy. That one does fairly well off road as well.
>> Keep in mind at 20 psi, 2 psi is 10%. Do the fat bike crowd run pressures 
>> down in the single digits?
>> My rules of thumb are: 
>>If your tires aren't soaking up bumps the way you want, lower the 
>> pressure, then lower it some more until they are. (too low may not be low 
>> enough)
>>If you start getting pinch flats in the process, get bigger tires. 
>> (got the first classic pinch flat of my life yesterday, guess I should try 
>> 28mm tires on that bike)
>>If you feel like your tires have too much rolling resistance, shop for 
>> more supple tires.
>> I think that approach can produce satisfactory results for a lot of folks 
>> without going beyond 28-33 mm tires. Despite the current popularity of 
>> "wider is better" and asking "how wide is too wide?" there can be wisdom in 
>> asking "how wide is wide enough?".
>> Typically it seems like tires are so much more compliant than even "std. 
>> diameter" thin wall tubing, that softer tires dominate wrt vertical 
>> compliance. Sounds like for you, not so much. First time for everything I 
>> suppose.
>> I expect you are aware there are folks who only like more flexible extra 
>> thin walled "standard" diameter tubed frames. Perhaps you do too. It's good 
>> to know what one likes.
>> I hope the stress levels in your fork blades are well below the fatigue 
>> limit for steel. Also that's a tall head tube, perhaps some of the flex in 
>> your fork is in the steerer tube?
>> Have you seen the video of Hincapie in Paris Roubaix sitting bolt upright 
>> with his disconnected bars in his hand as he veered into the ditch and 
>> separated his shoulder?
>>
>> I think the handling of my Bombadil is somewhat different than my other 
>> bikes, I like it a lot for riding the hills in my local open spaces. Prefer 
>> other bikes for riding on roads though.
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Suggestions for best-value 120 mm, 32-hole, silver, sealed-bearing fixed hub?

2020-06-10 Thread Jeffrey Arita

Yes, true.  I think that is why the use of the nuts make the VO flexible 
for various dropout widths.

VO really did their homework on this hub, IMHO.  Both sides of the hub are 
the exact same, so running two different freewheels with lockrings is 
possible.  Or, obviously two fixed gears.

Good luck,

Jeff

On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 11:09:11 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Just realized: One would have to trim the axles to fit a 120 MM hub with 
> QR skewer, right? Not a huge obstacle, but something to include in the 
> pro/con mix.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 12:07 PM Patrick Moore  > wrote:
>
>> Thank you, Jeff; this is exactly the kind information I was hoping for. I 
>> just looked again at the VO hub and it does indeed have hollow axles; 
>> missed that before. It is now #1 tied with Surly.
>>
>> Noted about Shimano QRs; that's what I've been using myself; agree they 
>> work better than many others.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 10:18 AM Jeffrey Arita > > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Patrick,
>>>
>>> I will offer up my 2 cents: I own a Surly Cross-Check (132.5mm rear 
>>> dropout spacing) and I converted it to SS/fixed gear about 18 months ago.  
>>> Never having such a drivetrain, I researched rear hubs.  I settled on the 
>>> VO fixed/freewheel hub (32 hole drilling only).  I installed a Shimano 
>>> freewheel cog on one side and a Surly fixed cog on the other.  The VO hub 
>>> came with various spacers so the hub will fit 126, 130 or 135 dropouts.  It 
>>> does have a hollow axle but I've only used the bolts to secure it to the 
>>> horizontal dropouts on the CC.  One could use a QR if desired.  FWIW: Mike 
>>> Varley (BMC) recommends use of Shimano only QRs for the rear.  He states 
>>> they clamp very well vs. other QRs on the market.
>>>
>>> BTW: I recently purchased a Fuji Team road bike frame & fork.  The 
>>> mid-80's frame had 126 spacing.  Wanting to put it together quickly to see 
>>> how it rode I put the VO hub with the 126 spacers on it.  
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 7:11:57 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I should add that the default is the Surly, if currently available; it 
 has been perfectly trouble free for thousands of miles and looks good. A 
 fixed/fixed would be nice, though. And I'd like opinions on others.

 On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 7:48 AM Patrick Moore  
 wrote:

> I have to buy a new fixed road hub since the Surly I've been using 
> apparently can't  be respaced to the required 120 mm. 
>
> I've not bought a fixed hub since 2006 or so, tho' I did upgrade my 
> Surly axle and bearings about 2010, so I'm interested in suggestions.
>
> I'd like:
>
> Adequate sealing against dust and occasional rain;
> Hollow axle for QR or allen bolts;
> Decent bearings.
>
> I know and own Phil, but I am trying in this case to buy on merit or 
> value and not on status. If Phil or Paul don't add 50% or 100% more value 
> (metaphor) then I'd rather not pay half or all again as much as necessary.
>
> I see that Surly still makes a 120 OL silver 32 hole hub and that you 
> can buy a hollow, threaded axle for it.
>
> Miche, Velo Orange, DT, Formula: I've looked at all of these, but not 
> all take QR skewers.
>
> Your (singular and plural) recommendations?
>
> Thanks.
>
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> ---
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[RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

2020-06-10 Thread somervillebikes

Aside from any QB-specific issues, I wrote a generic 4-part series for 
installing metal fenders:

https://somervillebikes.wordpress.com/2020/03/01/how-to-install-metal-fenders-part-i-achieving-a-proper-arc-radius/

Anton
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>
> These are on the list to do in the near future. However, if I have to get 
> into metal drilling or cutting, I'm going to need to make arrangements for 
> someone to help/do the install.
>
> What non-standard issues will I run into installing these:
>
> https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/fenders/rene-herse-smooth-fenders-700c-for-48-52-mm-tires-h80-700c/
> on a 66cm silver (final run) QB?
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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Re: [RBW] Re: Commuter Tire for Hunq

The Speed is undoubtedly, the version I want, and that's why I'd like to
know from the seller what model is being sold. I use the Speed equivalent
in my present Big Ones; wonderful.

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 12:46 PM Fryfam  wrote:

> Have you looked at the Schwalbe G One Speed version? Love these light and
> supple tires (I use 35 and 38 widths); have yet to experience a flat.
> OneStar compound far superior ime:
> https://www.schwalbetires.com/bike_tires/G-ONE_Speed
>
> On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 11:20:32 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Jonathan: If the OP doesn't want them, I may want them.
>>
>> Questions:
>>
>> 1. Are these 700C or 650B?
>>
>> 2. What model of G One are these? I am looking for the very lightest,
>> thinnest, most flat-prone model.
>>
>> 3. If 700C and lightest, and if you should consider selling to me, how
>> much would you want shipped to 87120?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Patrick Moore
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 11:18 AM Jonathan D.  wrote:
>>
>>> I have an unused pair of Schwalbe G ones, 60 mm if interested and they
>>> fit.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Commuter Tire for Hunq

2020-06-10 Thread Fryfam

Have you looked at the Schwalbe G One Speed version? Love these light and 
supple tires (I use 35 and 38 widths); have yet to experience a flat. 
OneStar compound far superior ime: 
https://www.schwalbetires.com/bike_tires/G-ONE_Speed

On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 11:20:32 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Jonathan: If the OP doesn't want them, I may want them.
>
> Questions:
>
> 1. Are these 700C or 650B?
>
> 2. What model of G One are these? I am looking for the very lightest, 
> thinnest, most flat-prone model.
>
> 3. If 700C and lightest, and if you should consider selling to me, how 
> much would you want shipped to 87120?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Patrick Moore
>
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 11:18 AM Jonathan D.  > wrote:
>
>> I have an unused pair of Schwalbe G ones, 60 mm if interested and they 
>> fit. 
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[RBW] WTB: Chris King 1" headset misc. bits

2020-06-10 Thread Brian Campbell

Joe,

I have a King 1” threaded in silver. It’s missing the crown race but has 
everything else. Is that what you are looking for?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Next Level Clementine

First, that price for that much labor - and how well it came out - is 
practically free! Second, remind me to pay up next time instead of doing the 
build myself. After finishing up my custom - which took AGES - and dealing with 
the results of my arthritic wrenching hand doing stuff it would rather not 
anymore, I remembered Mark @ Riv asking, "Am I building it or you?" Next time 
I'm paying up. I'm over it.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Commuter Tire for Hunq

Jonathan: If the OP doesn't want them, I may want them.

Questions:

1. Are these 700C or 650B?

2. What model of G One are these? I am looking for the very lightest,
thinnest, most flat-prone model.

3. If 700C and lightest, and if you should consider selling to me, how much
would you want shipped to 87120?

Thanks.

Patrick Moore

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> fit.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Next Level Clementine

One of Euclid's axioms: "Every bike project, be it vanishingly small, will
ineluctably grow in cost to exceed the cost of the previous bike project,
no matter how large."

Patrick "axiom empirically verified" Moore

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> ...
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Re: [RBW] Re: Suggestions for best-value 120 mm, 32-hole, silver, sealed-bearing fixed hub?

Thanks, Steve. Do you know if these are made by Formula?

At any rate, they're nice, but I would prefer a QR-compatible axle.

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 11:21 AM S  wrote:

> These don't take a QR skewer, but I have used them on my last two builds
> and I like them a lot:
>
> http://www.diacompe.com.tw/product/gran-compe-ii-hub/
>
> Around $50-65 for the rear, depending on where you buy them.
>
> On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 6:48:46 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> I have to buy a new fixed road hub since the Surly I've been using
>> apparently can't  be respaced to the required 120 mm.
>>
>> I've not bought a fixed hub since 2006 or so, tho' I did upgrade my Surly
>> axle and bearings about 2010, so I'm interested in suggestions.
>>
>> I'd like:
>>
>> Adequate sealing against dust and occasional rain;
>> Hollow axle for QR or allen bolts;
>> Decent bearings.
>>
>> I know and own Phil, but I am trying in this case to buy on merit or
>> value and not on status. If Phil or Paul don't add 50% or 100% more value
>> (metaphor) then I'd rather not pay half or all again as much as necessary.
>>
>> I see that Surly still makes a 120 OL silver 32 hole hub and that you can
>> buy a hollow, threaded axle for it.
>>
>> Miche, Velo Orange, DT, Formula: I've looked at all of these, but not all
>> take QR skewers.
>>
>> Your (singular and plural) recommendations?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Suggestions for best-value 120 mm, 32-hole, silver, sealed-bearing fixed hub?

Just realized: One would have to trim the axles to fit a 120 MM hub with QR
skewer, right? Not a huge obstacle, but something to include in the pro/con
mix.

Thanks again.

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 12:07 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Thank you, Jeff; this is exactly the kind information I was hoping for. I
> just looked again at the VO hub and it does indeed have hollow axles;
> missed that before. It is now #1 tied with Surly.
>
> Noted about Shimano QRs; that's what I've been using myself; agree they
> work better than many others.
>
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 10:18 AM Jeffrey Arita 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Patrick,
>>
>> I will offer up my 2 cents: I own a Surly Cross-Check (132.5mm rear
>> dropout spacing) and I converted it to SS/fixed gear about 18 months ago.
>> Never having such a drivetrain, I researched rear hubs.  I settled on the
>> VO fixed/freewheel hub (32 hole drilling only).  I installed a Shimano
>> freewheel cog on one side and a Surly fixed cog on the other.  The VO hub
>> came with various spacers so the hub will fit 126, 130 or 135 dropouts.  It
>> does have a hollow axle but I've only used the bolts to secure it to the
>> horizontal dropouts on the CC.  One could use a QR if desired.  FWIW: Mike
>> Varley (BMC) recommends use of Shimano only QRs for the rear.  He states
>> they clamp very well vs. other QRs on the market.
>>
>> BTW: I recently purchased a Fuji Team road bike frame & fork.  The
>> mid-80's frame had 126 spacing.  Wanting to put it together quickly to see
>> how it rode I put the VO hub with the 126 spacers on it.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 7:11:57 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> I should add that the default is the Surly, if currently available; it
>>> has been perfectly trouble free for thousands of miles and looks good. A
>>> fixed/fixed would be nice, though. And I'd like opinions on others.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 7:48 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>>
 I have to buy a new fixed road hub since the Surly I've been using
 apparently can't  be respaced to the required 120 mm.

 I've not bought a fixed hub since 2006 or so, tho' I did upgrade my
 Surly axle and bearings about 2010, so I'm interested in suggestions.

 I'd like:

 Adequate sealing against dust and occasional rain;
 Hollow axle for QR or allen bolts;
 Decent bearings.

 I know and own Phil, but I am trying in this case to buy on merit or
 value and not on status. If Phil or Paul don't add 50% or 100% more value
 (metaphor) then I'd rather not pay half or all again as much as necessary.

 I see that Surly still makes a 120 OL silver 32 hole hub and that you
 can buy a hollow, threaded axle for it.

 Miche, Velo Orange, DT, Formula: I've looked at all of these, but not
 all take QR skewers.

 Your (singular and plural) recommendations?

 Thanks.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Suggestions for best-value 120 mm, 32-hole, silver, sealed-bearing fixed hub?

Thank you, Jeff; this is exactly the kind information I was hoping for. I
just looked again at the VO hub and it does indeed have hollow axles;
missed that before. It is now #1 tied with Surly.

Noted about Shimano QRs; that's what I've been using myself; agree they
work better than many others.

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 10:18 AM Jeffrey Arita 
wrote:

> Hi Patrick,
>
> I will offer up my 2 cents: I own a Surly Cross-Check (132.5mm rear
> dropout spacing) and I converted it to SS/fixed gear about 18 months ago.
> Never having such a drivetrain, I researched rear hubs.  I settled on the
> VO fixed/freewheel hub (32 hole drilling only).  I installed a Shimano
> freewheel cog on one side and a Surly fixed cog on the other.  The VO hub
> came with various spacers so the hub will fit 126, 130 or 135 dropouts.  It
> does have a hollow axle but I've only used the bolts to secure it to the
> horizontal dropouts on the CC.  One could use a QR if desired.  FWIW: Mike
> Varley (BMC) recommends use of Shimano only QRs for the rear.  He states
> they clamp very well vs. other QRs on the market.
>
> BTW: I recently purchased a Fuji Team road bike frame & fork.  The
> mid-80's frame had 126 spacing.  Wanting to put it together quickly to see
> how it rode I put the VO hub with the 126 spacers on it.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Jeff
>
>
> On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 7:11:57 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> I should add that the default is the Surly, if currently available; it
>> has been perfectly trouble free for thousands of miles and looks good. A
>> fixed/fixed would be nice, though. And I'd like opinions on others.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 7:48 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> I have to buy a new fixed road hub since the Surly I've been using
>>> apparently can't  be respaced to the required 120 mm.
>>>
>>> I've not bought a fixed hub since 2006 or so, tho' I did upgrade my
>>> Surly axle and bearings about 2010, so I'm interested in suggestions.
>>>
>>> I'd like:
>>>
>>> Adequate sealing against dust and occasional rain;
>>> Hollow axle for QR or allen bolts;
>>> Decent bearings.
>>>
>>> I know and own Phil, but I am trying in this case to buy on merit or
>>> value and not on status. If Phil or Paul don't add 50% or 100% more value
>>> (metaphor) then I'd rather not pay half or all again as much as necessary.
>>>
>>> I see that Surly still makes a 120 OL silver 32 hole hub and that you
>>> can buy a hollow, threaded axle for it.
>>>
>>> Miche, Velo Orange, DT, Formula: I've looked at all of these, but not
>>> all take QR skewers.
>>>
>>> Your (singular and plural) recommendations?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> ---
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>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Next Level Clementine

2020-06-10 Thread Leah Peterson

Thanks, I’m glad you like it. A lot of care went into putting it all together, 
and especially since the shop hadn’t seen parts like these come to their work 
stand before.

I consider it generally bad form to delve into one’s income level, so I will 
steer the conversation in a different direction. I will say that I enjoy 
supporting small businesses and that the $225 spent on labor was money well 
spent. Just a thought.

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 10, 2020, at 10:15 AM, Adam Leibow  wrote:
> 
> 
> Cool story! It's awesome that that shop was able to appreciate the bike, and 
> took such care in doing the work. That is a really nice build. That being 
> said, I can't imagine how much you spent on all this! One reason I am able to 
> afford the bikes I have is I can build them myself, which is a huge savings. 
> Just a thought. 
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[RBW] Re: Suggestions for best-value 120 mm, 32-hole, silver, sealed-bearing fixed hub?

2020-06-10 Thread S

These don't take a QR skewer, but I have used them on my last two builds 
and I like them a lot:

http://www.diacompe.com.tw/product/gran-compe-ii-hub/

Around $50-65 for the rear, depending on where you buy them. 

On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 6:48:46 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I have to buy a new fixed road hub since the Surly I've been using 
> apparently can't  be respaced to the required 120 mm. 
>
> I've not bought a fixed hub since 2006 or so, tho' I did upgrade my Surly 
> axle and bearings about 2010, so I'm interested in suggestions.
>
> I'd like:
>
> Adequate sealing against dust and occasional rain;
> Hollow axle for QR or allen bolts;
> Decent bearings.
>
> I know and own Phil, but I am trying in this case to buy on merit or value 
> and not on status. If Phil or Paul don't add 50% or 100% more value 
> (metaphor) then I'd rather not pay half or all again as much as necessary.
>
> I see that Surly still makes a 120 OL silver 32 hole hub and that you can 
> buy a hollow, threaded axle for it.
>
> Miche, Velo Orange, DT, Formula: I've looked at all of these, but not all 
> take QR skewers.
>
> Your (singular and plural) recommendations?
>
> Thanks.
>
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[RBW] Re: Commuter Tire for Hunq

2020-06-10 Thread Jonathan D.

I have an unused pair of Schwalbe G ones, 60 mm if interested and they fit. 

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[RBW] Re: Next Level Clementine

2020-06-10 Thread Adam Leibow

Cool story! It's awesome that that shop was able to appreciate the bike, 
and took such care in doing the work. That is a really nice build. That 
being said, I can't imagine how much you spent on all this! One reason I am 
able to afford the bikes I have is I can build them myself, which is a huge 
savings. Just a thought. 

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[RBW] Re: FS- fenders, Brooks Saddle, Baggins Trunk bag, Nitto lugged seat post

2020-06-10 Thread Paul Brodek

[offlist]

Hey Andy, I pinged you as well, would like to buy the Baggins Rack Trunk if 
it's still available.

You can reply directly here, or to p...@skyweb.net

I'm in Jersey, 07642.

Cheers,

Paul Brodek

On Sunday, June 7, 2020 at 9:43:00 PM UTC-4, Andy L wrote:
>
> Hey Ryan,
> Sorry about the darkness-  I tried to contact you yesterday- I'm not sure 
> I got your pm, but anyway, they're all yours- I hope this gets through-
> Andy
>
> On Sunday, June 7, 2020 at 5:01:21 PM UTC-4, Abcyclehank wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone heard back from Andy?
>> Been dark since my early inquires and offers to buy?
>>
>> Ryan Hankinson
>> West Michigan
>>
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[RBW] Re: Suggestions for best-value 120 mm, 32-hole, silver, sealed-bearing fixed hub?

2020-06-10 Thread Jeffrey Arita

Hi Patrick,

I will offer up my 2 cents: I own a Surly Cross-Check (132.5mm rear dropout 
spacing) and I converted it to SS/fixed gear about 18 months ago.  Never 
having such a drivetrain, I researched rear hubs.  I settled on the VO 
fixed/freewheel hub (32 hole drilling only).  I installed a Shimano 
freewheel cog on one side and a Surly fixed cog on the other.  The VO hub 
came with various spacers so the hub will fit 126, 130 or 135 dropouts.  It 
does have a hollow axle but I've only used the bolts to secure it to the 
horizontal dropouts on the CC.  One could use a QR if desired.  FWIW: Mike 
Varley (BMC) recommends use of Shimano only QRs for the rear.  He states 
they clamp very well vs. other QRs on the market.

BTW: I recently purchased a Fuji Team road bike frame & fork.  The mid-80's 
frame had 126 spacing.  Wanting to put it together quickly to see how it 
rode I put the VO hub with the 126 spacers on it.  

Good luck!

Jeff

On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 7:11:57 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I should add that the default is the Surly, if currently available; it has 
> been perfectly trouble free for thousands of miles and looks good. A 
> fixed/fixed would be nice, though. And I'd like opinions on others.
>
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 7:48 AM Patrick Moore  > wrote:
>
>> I have to buy a new fixed road hub since the Surly I've been using 
>> apparently can't  be respaced to the required 120 mm. 
>>
>> I've not bought a fixed hub since 2006 or so, tho' I did upgrade my Surly 
>> axle and bearings about 2010, so I'm interested in suggestions.
>>
>> I'd like:
>>
>> Adequate sealing against dust and occasional rain;
>> Hollow axle for QR or allen bolts;
>> Decent bearings.
>>
>> I know and own Phil, but I am trying in this case to buy on merit or 
>> value and not on status. If Phil or Paul don't add 50% or 100% more value 
>> (metaphor) then I'd rather not pay half or all again as much as necessary.
>>
>> I see that Surly still makes a 120 OL silver 32 hole hub and that you can 
>> buy a hollow, threaded axle for it.
>>
>> Miche, Velo Orange, DT, Formula: I've looked at all of these, but not all 
>> take QR skewers.
>>
>> Your (singular and plural) recommendations?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> ---
>> Patrick Moore
>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>
>>
>
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[RBW] Re: Commuter Tire for Hunq

2020-06-10 Thread Marc Irwin

I did not enjoy Marathon's or Marathon Supreme's when I used them.  The 
Marathon's were heavy, slow and I had quite a few flats.  I think the Big 
Ben is the perfect tire for my Hunq to do anything I care to do, including 
commuting.


Marc

On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 10:06:52 PM UTC-4, Dave Grossman wrote:
>
> I want to replace the 28x2 Big Ben's on my Hunq.  I use it primarily for 
> errands and commuting right now.  I was debating getting a set of Marathon 
> Supremes.  As I haven't purchased "commuter" tires in a while, I'm 
> wondering if there is something better out there.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-10 Thread Bruce Herbitter

Nifty summary Edwin, missing the Road and Road Standard bikes of ‘94-98.   Long 
time RBW followers know that if you see something you like, buy it.  EVERYTHING 
gets replaced after a short while due to a number of constraints. Some long 
term projects like Atlantis keep the name but the new version is not like the 
former one.  Similar for clothes, saddles, parts, etc.

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 10, 2020, at 9:54 AM, Edwin W  wrote:
> 
> 
> Doug, looking at Marty's awesome google doc, it looks like:
> 1994-1998: 6 - All Rounder, Mountain Expedition, Long Low, Cyclo Cross, Heron
> 1999-2003: 5 - Atlantis, Rambo, Quickbeam, Romulus, Redwood
> 2004-2008: 6 - Saluki, Glorius, Wilbury Bleriot, AHH, Legolas
> 2009-2013: 7 - Bomba, Sam, Roadeo, Simpleone, Betty Foy, Yves Gomez (really 
> one bike), Hunqa
> 2014-2018: 8: Joe A, Cheviot, Clem, Rosco, Hubbu, Roadini, Frank Jones, Gus
> 
> So, I guess there is a slight trend toward new models. I don't think you can 
> say Betty and Yves are different models and Clem and Clementine are the same.
> 
> Edwin 
> 
>> On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 8:16:38 AM UTC-5, Doug Hansford wrote:
>> I've not been a Rivendell consumer and fan for as long as many of you, just 
>> about 4 or 5 years. Does Grant usually come out with new frame designs every 
>> year or two or has he been stepping it up lately with more offerings?
>> Doug Hansford
>> 
>>> On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 9:00:19 AM UTC-4, Mark Roland wrote:
>>> Yes, it's more road oriented than the Hillibikes, with shorter front 
>>> center, more bb drop. I think it's hard to judge the aesthetics of the 
>>> joints with the snapshot we have--those shadows don't help. Still, I don't 
>>> see a problem with it, and for road riding it gives plenty of extra 
>>> clearance. I like that it's not the same as the Hilli in that regard, 
>>> though there is the rumor that potentially significant changes could be 
>>> made.
>>> 
>>> Also looks like different fork. Hoping it will be tig-welded, or, as the 
>>> Hillibikes were first conceived, some of both (but that seems unlikely). I 
>>> just bought a Susie, so not flush, but I would buy a $900 f/f  tig version* 
>>> when it comes out. Just because it looks cool, and I know the ride will be 
>>> lots of fun. And I probably have all the parts I would need.
>>> 
>>> On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 2:05:42 AM UTC-4, Hetchins52 wrote:
 
> What looks bad to me is the curved top tube of the Gallop joining the 
> seat tube at a significantly higher point than on the Gus/Susie. It 
> almost merges with the seat cluster of the Gallop and that detracts from 
> each element. If you're going to drop the top tube you might as well 
> provide a little more clearance.
  
> How is it different from the Gus/Susie? Tig welding versus fillet 
> brazing? That may allow for a major price break. The Gus/Susie family are 
> now $1800 for a frameset.
  
> Shorter top tube to allow for drops?
  
> And, we don't know if there will be 650b and 700c variants in the size 
> ranges.
 
 David Lipsky
> 
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[RBW] Question for Deacon Patrick

Sorry for broadcasting this, but I don't have Patrick's email address.

Patrick: What fixed gear hubs have you had most success with offroad? I'd
like to replace the Surly 130 mm OL hub with some 120 OL hub, but I've not
bought a fixed hub except for 2 ENOs since 2006.

The newer model of the Surly (with the replacement axle) seems bulletproof,
but I daresay yours might be even more bullet proof.

SIlver, 120 mm, 32 hole, hollow axle for QR or allen bolts. Fixed/fixed
preferred but fixed/free or even fixed/nothing acceptable.

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[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-10 Thread Bill Schairer

You mean like this?  Sorry, I couldn’t resist, a craigslist item


Bill S

On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 11:43:20 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> That Polyvalent Low-Kicker is a great looking bike, in my opinion.  I 
> think it illustrates how much better the Gallop may look with drop bars 
> closer to level with the saddle.  Some of you think a bike looks weird when 
> a tube curves.  Some of you don't like gaps that are bigger than you are 
> used to.  Some don't like to see drop bars way above the saddle (or way 
> below). 
>
> I'll give both machines (Gallup and Polyvalent low-kicker) a serious look 
> when their respective Geo charts come out.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 11:09:22 AM UTC-7, Brian Campbell wrote:
>>
>> VO is offering something similar:
>>
>> https://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2020/05/mega-list-of-project-updates.html
>>
>> Drop tube/drop bar bikes are a " thing" now.
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Next Level Clementine

2020-06-10 Thread 'Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch

Clark,
They will be available.  Rivendell as part of their stellar customer service 
always gets extra frames and forks to compensate for issues or damage in 
shipping.  Once the full bikes get out to their new owners they will release 
the extras.  Sometimes quickly sometimes slowly sometimes never and they find 
their way into a hot corner or rafter at RBW.  
Vince is the memory King if you have a random question about number of a 
particular size, color, etc it is probably locked away in his brain simply 
waiting for a reasonable inquiry.
That said they are swamped and short handed currently getting bikes out as fast 
and they can to the individuals who have fully paid for a bike or frame already 
(Gus and Susies) doing their stellar job of preparing and checking them first.
Their IG account also says they are hiring another person so they are doing 
what they can.  

Sincerely,
Ryan Hankinson
West Michigan

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[RBW] Re: Commuter Tire for Hunq

2020-06-10 Thread Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)

I love the Continental Sport Contact tire for commuting (what Riv calls the 
"basketball tire"), but I think the largest size is 700cx42. 

On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 10:06:52 PM UTC-4, Dave Grossman wrote:
>
> I want to replace the 28x2 Big Ben's on my Hunq.  I use it primarily for 
> errands and commuting right now.  I was debating getting a set of Marathon 
> Supremes.  As I haven't purchased "commuter" tires in a while, I'm 
> wondering if there is something better out there.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2020-06-10 Thread Edwin W

Doug, looking at Marty's awesome google doc, it looks like:
1994-1998: 6 - All Rounder, Mountain Expedition, Long Low, Cyclo Cross, 
Heron
1999-2003: 5 - Atlantis, Rambo, Quickbeam, Romulus, Redwood
2004-2008: 6 - Saluki, Glorius, Wilbury Bleriot, AHH, Legolas
2009-2013: 7 - Bomba, Sam, Roadeo, Simpleone, Betty Foy, Yves Gomez (really 
one bike), Hunqa
2014-2018: 8: Joe A, Cheviot, Clem, Rosco, Hubbu, Roadini, Frank Jones, Gus

So, I guess there is a slight trend toward new models. I don't think you 
can say Betty and Yves are different models and Clem and Clementine are the 
same.

Edwin 

On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 8:16:38 AM UTC-5, Doug Hansford wrote:
>
> I've not been a Rivendell consumer and fan for as long as many of you, 
> just about 4 or 5 years. Does Grant usually come out with new frame designs 
> every year or two or has he been stepping it up lately with more offerings?
> Doug Hansford
>
> On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 9:00:19 AM UTC-4, Mark Roland wrote:
>>
>> Yes, it's more road oriented than the Hillibikes, with shorter front 
>> center, more bb drop. I think it's hard to judge the aesthetics of the 
>> joints with the snapshot we have--those shadows don't help. Still, I don't 
>> see a problem with it, and for road riding it gives plenty of extra 
>> clearance. I like that it's not the same as the Hilli in that regard, 
>> though there is the rumor that potentially significant changes could be 
>> made.
>>
>> Also looks like different fork. Hoping it will be tig-welded, or, as the 
>> Hillibikes were first conceived, some of both (but that seems unlikely). I 
>> just bought a Susie, so not flush, but I would buy a $900 f/f  tig version* 
>> when it comes out. Just because it looks cool, and I know the ride will be 
>> lots of fun. And I probably have all the parts I would need.
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 2:05:42 AM UTC-4, Hetchins52 wrote:
>>>
>>> What looks bad to me is the curved top tube of the Gallop joining the 
 seat tube at a significantly higher point than on the Gus/Susie. It almost 
 merges with the seat cluster of the Gallop and that detracts from each 
 element. If you're going to drop the top tube you might as well provide a 
 little more clearance.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
 How is it different from the Gus/Susie? Tig welding versus fillet 
 brazing? That may allow for a major price break. The Gus/Susie family are 
 now $1800 for a frameset.

>>>  
>>>
 Shorter top tube to allow for drops?

>>>  
>>>
 And, we don't know if there will be 650b and 700c variants in the size 
 ranges.

>>>
>>> David Lipsky
>>>



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[RBW] Re: FS- 53cm Atlantis with s couplers (26” wheels)

2020-06-10 Thread 'Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch

Benz,
I am not the most tech savvy.  This was only the 2nd time I have successfully 
posted pics I believe.  Not sure what the thumbnail reference is other than I 
choose small size pics since I attached 22 images.

Happy to send larger pics in a DM or text them to you.

Ryan Hankinson
(616)928-4226

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[RBW] Re: Suggestions for best-value 120 mm, 32-hole, silver, sealed-bearing fixed hub?

I should add that the default is the Surly, if currently available; it has
been perfectly trouble free for thousands of miles and looks good. A
fixed/fixed would be nice, though. And I'd like opinions on others.

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 7:48 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I have to buy a new fixed road hub since the Surly I've been using
> apparently can't  be respaced to the required 120 mm.
>
> I've not bought a fixed hub since 2006 or so, tho' I did upgrade my Surly
> axle and bearings about 2010, so I'm interested in suggestions.
>
> I'd like:
>
> Adequate sealing against dust and occasional rain;
> Hollow axle for QR or allen bolts;
> Decent bearings.
>
> I know and own Phil, but I am trying in this case to buy on merit or value
> and not on status. If Phil or Paul don't add 50% or 100% more value
> (metaphor) then I'd rather not pay half or all again as much as necessary.
>
> I see that Surly still makes a 120 OL silver 32 hole hub and that you can
> buy a hollow, threaded axle for it.
>
> Miche, Velo Orange, DT, Formula: I've looked at all of these, but not all
> take QR skewers.
>
> Your (singular and plural) recommendations?
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
>
> ---
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> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>
>

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[RBW] Suggestions for best-value 120 mm, 32-hole, silver, sealed-bearing fixed hub?