Background (may be skipped as it may not be fully relevant to answering the
question and is quite wordy):
I purchased albatross bars for a bike my son and I are repainting and building
up for him. While waiting for him to select a frame color, I mounted the
albatross bars on my daily commuter
Ryan and Steve, thank you for your responses.
Steve, the bike takes a tumble on a monthly basis (I am a teacher and park my
bike in the classroom; at home the dogs and children manage to knock it over
regularly). In regard to index shifting on a 6 and 7, here is the product
write up from the
Dear Shoji and Joe, thanks for the response. I have a bike with stem mounted
shifters (friction) that I ride on the weekends. I have commuted with it, but
I did not like the uncertainty of which gear I dropped into nor the time I had
to spend with only one hand on the bar while navigating
Absolutely stunning! Thanks for sharing.
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Wow! Thanks for all the helpful and thoughtful replies; you have all given me
much to consider.
Yes, I shift too much, an accurate diagnosis. I remember that chapter from
Grant's book, though at the time I did not think it applied to me.
Overshifting is a habit I come by honestly. (True
Manny, your photographs are beautiful. Go for it. I use smugmug and I am
quite happy with them. www.smugmug.com It is very easy to set up a site,
customize it, and create public and private galleries. I used to have a domain
name linked to it, but I scaled back my freelancing to focus on
Yesterday was gorgeous day; today it is raining and thundering. After
wrapping the Albatross bars on the Motobecane Super Mirage, I went for an
early morning ride. The weather and the ride were perfect. However this
makeover and ride would not have happened without the inspiration and
Ron, thanks for the verification on fenders.
Ron and Patrick, Thanks for the suggestions for attaching bottle cages. It is
always nice to have options.
Many thanks and safe cycling,
Erl
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Looks nice on her bike. I was tempted; interestingly I was toying with buying
it and placing it on a pletscher rack, too.
I am sure she will like it.
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Ron, Will and Matt, thanks for all the input. Here is a photo of the space
I have between brakes and the top of my 1 1/4 or roughly 32mm tire. The
clearance appears to be about 15mm.
Great pictures. Looks like a wonderful place to ride.
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Nice photo. Looks like everyone is having fun!
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Beautiful bike. Congratulations and happy cycling.
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Patrick, I have the small acorn handlebar bag on albatross bars. I like it.
It holds my cellphone, wallet, keys, cable lock, and Fold-up hex wrench set.
In addition, I can also fit one of the follwing: a bandanna or granola bar or
camera (fuji x100). The elastic closure attaches securely
Patrick,
One more observation: the internal wooden brace is too long to snug up the bag
flush with the Albatross bars, because of the bars bend/curve. This also would
create more sway I think if it weren't for the pressure exerted by my stem
shifters. Without the stem shifters I don't think
My concern is the stabalizer bar which extends the width of the bag. The keeps
bag from being snugged up against the bar as it is pictured on dropbars on
Acorn's website.
Your idea of attaching around the stem is intriguing. I may try the bag on
another bike with albatross bars and no stem
By stabalizer bar I meant wooden brace. Apologies for any confusion.
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Beautiful bikes; I really like the bar tape on the Hunqa. The weather looks
fabulous, too. Thanks for sharing.
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Wow, that is a beautiful restoration! I really like the green saddle/bar tape
with the orange frame.
It appears the powder coating did not obscure the lug details any more than a
paint job would have. Is that accurate when looking at the bike in person? I
ask because I am considering powder
Peter, if Hugh doesn't end up buying them, I am interested in buying the bars,
brakes and interrupters.
Many thanks,
Erl
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Peter, if Hugh doesn't end up buying them, I am interested in buying the bars,
brakes and interrupters.
Many thanks,
Erl
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You have a beautiful bike! Thanks for sharing the great photographs.
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Matt, the frame, fork, stem, and touch up paint arrived safely today. Thanks
for a great transaction. I felt like a kid opening the coolest looking
Christmas present.
My wife had a dubious look on her face as I unpacked the box. In her defense,
our screened porch contains my Surly LHT,
That looked fun. Photos made me smile. Thanks.
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I like the Planet Bike Protege 9. I bought mine at REI. I first learned of it
through reviews on the Crazy Guy on a Bike website:
http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/reviews/board/message/?o=1thread_id=41518page=1nested=0v=1C
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Wow, that looks great. Look forward to photos when you have it built up.
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I enjoyed reading your description of the trip. Thanks for sharing. Great
photos,too.
-Erl
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According to the Riv site...a 110. Link here:
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bbc.htm
Safe cycling, Erl
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A great write-up and photos; that trip looks like it was awesome. I love your
bike as well!
Erl
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Jim, that looks like a beautiful section to commute. Thanks for sharing.
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Kensington, Maryland. Mine is a size 56 with 26 wheels. It is not built up
yet, but you are welcome to see the frame and fork in person. Hope to have it
built up in a few weeks.
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I own a new to me Atlantis that was well loved and used. It could really use
fresh paint. Initially, I was going to have it custom painted red with cream
head tube. However, when it arrived I discovered that I really like the
blue/green standard color. It looks much nicer in person than
I wanted to provide an update after all the helpful responses. I installed
the bar end shifters on the Albatross bars, and the set-up has worked
great. The index shifting is both accurate as well as fast. I have no
trouble switching through several gears when I need to. I also focussed on
Pudge, Kelly, and Brian thanks for sharing those. The red, copper and pewter
are great colors. Your photos really help me visualize color options.
Many thanks,
Erl
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Another vote for the large. I can easily fit two 6 packs of bottled beer, plus
tool roll, u-lock, hat, gloves, frame pump, and much else. Today, I carried a
box o joe from Dunkin Donuts to a meeting; I could have fit two in there and
still had room!
Patrick, if it won't interfere with balance
Manny, those are terrific. Perhaps my favorite set of yours. Please make sure
you are protecting your copyright; I can see cycling related companies wanting
to use those. Make sure they pay you and give proper credit. You possess a
great eye and your photography skills are growing rapidly.
Patrick,
I carry all sorts of loads from a medium backpack full of clothes and a
laptop computer, to six-packs of 12-oz bottled beverages, to box of Dunkin
Coffee, to camping gear. (not all at one time:) ) I could easily exceed
weight limit of wheel and rack before capacity of the bag. I love
Here is a photo of the beverages:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ZaeY65IqQtM/UY7ZZjzdMKI/ANs/SpNq8WJEs_I/s1600/saddlesack2.JPG
Best regards,
Erl
On Saturday, May 11, 2013 7:25:39 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
Once the Large SaddleSacks are back in stock I plan on getting one as
Great stuff. You live in a spectacular region. Thanks for sharing the
adventure and photos.
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I use this one :
http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/seatposts/vo-grand-cru-seat-post-long-setback.html
You will still need to ride with an Allen key, but adjustment is so much easier!
Sage cycling,
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Beautiful bike with a great build. I hope you will have as much fun riding the
bike as you appear to have had collecting parts and building it up.
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Beautiful bike with a great build. I hope you will have as much fun riding the
bike as you appear to have had collecting parts and building it up.
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Great photo. I did 20 miles today in my Musa shorts and Ibex wool t-shirt.
Summer humidity hit the DC area today, and I was cool and comfortable,
relatively!
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Ordered many parts for my new to me Atlantis. I think I hit the double entry
threshold if I remember the original contest wording. ;)
If I were fortunate to win, I would be selecting a bike for my wife to ride.
Her choice.
Not surprised to hear you had a great customer service experience!
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Patrick,
Facebook posting mentioned frame set. Text copied below from Facebook. Good
luck to all!
Best regards, Erl
quoted text from Facebook follows: (couldn't get link to work)
Rebates Out, Raffles In
As I announced last time, the 5% rebate is going away to be replaced with lower
pricing
Patrick,
I forgot to ask how you like the Large Saddlesack?
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Those are great looking bikes. Please share photos as the Atlantis grows up.
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Looks like a fun ride. Thanks for sharing the photos.
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Great photos and write-up. We are still waiting for the cicadas in my part of
Maryland. Guess I better get ready to share my rides with them!
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Michael, I enjoyed the Senility Prayer. It is a new one to me, but similar to
one of my other favorites:
May those who love us, love us.
And those who don't love us,
May God turn their hearts;
And if He doesn't turn their hearts,
May He turn their ankles,
So we will know them by their limping.
Patrick,
That is quite the impressive load! Well done.
I use the large Saddlesack and load outside the store. I would be too stressed
trying to load while checking out, all with impatient folks behind me. I take
my items outside to my bike, analyze what I have, and load accordingly.
Similar
Michael,
I have steel alba bars on two bikes and like them a great deal. I notice no
flex when I stand to pedal. I am about 5'10 and 170lbs. I have no experience
with the aluminum, sorry.
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Patrick,
Glad you were able to enjoy such a wonderful day. The photos are beautiful.
I bike for many reasons, but one reason is rooted in my childhood. On
Saturdays, I would accompany my dad on a leisurely bike ride around our town
that included breakfast at a local diner. Seeing your
Superlatives are inadequate. I am thrilled and contented with my Atlantis.
This bike makes me want to just ride and ride and ride and ride.
My thanks to Matt Gilkey (for a great transaction on the frame, fork,hs, and
stem) and Peter G (handlebars and both sets of brake levers.). Brian
Green.
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A great write up of a fabulous ride. Quite inspirational.
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That is a nice looking LHT. I have a black one with 26 wheels which I enjoy
riding. You gave your brother some good advice. Best wishes on the tour.
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I also like it for all the reasons you stated. I have it installed on my
Atlantis. I ride a Surly LHT with a 22/32/44 crankset and find the Sugino a
better match for my riding.
When I was buying parts for my Atlantis, I contacted Riv and they recommended I
use a 113mm bottom bracket with the
I am interested in the Periscopa if still available.
Thanks,
Erl
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I am hoping the collective wisdom of this group will be able to help me.
I have been interested in the Sackville Toursacks for a long time to replace
my 10 year-old set of Nashbar panniers. I would use them mostly for
carrying clothes and work related items. I need to remove the panniers and
Thomas and Rene,
Thank you both for your thoughtful responses. You both provided the
information I was hoping to learn.
My commute is a little over 8 miles on paved roads. My load is balanced in
terms of weight between my two panniers, but my clothing causes one pannier
to bulge more than the
Steve,
I am in Kensington, too. Though I do not ride a Rivendell (yet), I do commute
with a large Saddlesack and other Rivendell gear! My commute takes me the
length of Kensington Parkway before I head south into DC. If you see me riding
(black Surly LHT, olive, large Saddlesack, yellow
I apologize in advance if I am missing something obvious. My question: does
anyone know why the Build Kit for the 700 Drop Bar Sam (
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/build-05.htm) is $125 more than the build kit
for the 700 Upright Bar Sam (http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/build-02.htm)? I
I thank everyone for their replies and thoughts. I will have to make a call to
Rivendell to learn more. Of course, I worry, if I call, I will end up
purchasing!
Thanks again. This is a great group, and I have learned a great deal from you
all over the last few years.
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Andy, that is a fabulous photo!
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This is probably old news, but is that Andy and his family featured in the
photo on the Adventure Cycling Homepage? http://www.adventurecycling.org/
Beautiful photograph.
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I have equipped an old Motobecane with a periscopa stem and Albatross bars.
I rode the set-up two days ago for about 15 miles and found it quite
comfortable. I did have to move my hand position forward, toward the stem,
on the Albatross bars, otherwise the handling was a bit twitchy. That is
I am glad the photo was helpful. However, the photo is deceiving as to the
saddle; the saddle is a Brooks B68 which they do not appear to make anymore. I
have a Standard B17 on my commuting bike, and it would not be a good choice for
me on a more upright set-up. The B 68 is fine with the
The ride looks like it was fun. I guess it pays to genuinely admire a bike!
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Patrick,
Wonderful images. What a lovely place at which to camp.
How do you like the large Saddlesack?
Erl
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My wife uses the insulated and it fits in the plastic bottle cages sold by
Kleen Kanteen. It also fits in the Iris cages.
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Andy, thanks for sharing that great set of photos! It looks like it was an
awesome trip.
Erl
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Michael, that is a great goal! Be sure to make a photograph when you reach the
top on your 70th.
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Outstanding way to beat the heat or at least adapt to it. I think I may have
to add a hamock to my cycling gear.
-Erl
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Loved the video. I haven't retrieved bike parts from a dump yet, but a great
idea. The gentleman creates the tool, to make the part, to fit on the car.
Awesome!
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Beautiful! I must look away and hope someone buys it fast, before I
reconsider. :)
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Of the two, fwiw, I would vote black. Here is my black Rivified Surly LHT:
On Monday, July 29, 2013 1:54:55 PM UTC-7, Liesl wrote:
Hi Friends,
I anticipate getting closer to the delivery of Appaloosa custom and was
all set on a good WWII type Khaki green, and THEN just as Grant predicted
It reads and looks like an absolute blast! Thanks for the write-ups and
pictures.
-Erl
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Would any 'RBW Friends' be interested in joining me to ride part or all of
the CO Canal http://www.bikewashington.org/canal/ and/or GAP
Trailhttp://www.atatrail.org/ sometime
between August 12-19?
A friend and I had scheduled the week of August 12th to cycle the CO
Canal. We were going to
Congratulations on the accomplishment of the day and the season! Your
photographs really capture the beauty of the area.
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I am sorry to learn about your bike.
While a long shot, you might try entering your bike info here:
http://www.stolenbicycleregistry.com/index.php
Best wishes on recovering your bike,
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I have a 172.5 Sugino XD2 Triple crankset (46X36x24) that I would be
interested in trading for a 170mm. Mine was bought new in May from Rivendell
and has under 500 miles on it. I would also be interested in buying someone's
170 XD2 triple crankset if I don't get any trade offers.
Many
Patrick,
Sounds good to me. If you email me your address, I will mail crankset on
Monday and email you tracking info. (Weather forecast through the weekend is
exceptional for August in D.C., amd I want a few rides on the Atlantis before I
remove the crankset.)
Many thanks,
Erl
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I really enjoyed watching the video. Thanks.
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Tony,
The build looks great. Enjoy the ride. I will keep a look out for you and
your Atlantis in the DC area.
Safe cycling,
Erl
Kensington, MD
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I, too, could bring a 56
Erl
Kensington, MD
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I will reserve the 14th and 15th. Should be fun.
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I am excited about this. I voted for SF, mostly for the dates. As a teacher,
I have more travel flexibility in the summer. Minnesota and California are
both great venues.
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Tom,
Short Answer: another vote for a large Saddlesack.
Long Answer: be sure to think through your commuting process. From personal
experience, I transitioned from panniers to a large Saxdlesack because of my
personal routine and preferences. I commute several days a week by bike and
the
Happy birthday! It looks like a great ride.
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Patrick,
That is a beautiful rack. Definately worth the wait.
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Gorgeous bike. It looks like you are enjoying it already.
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Patrick,
I am glad the 172.5mm cranks are working out. I am enjoying my new 170mm
cranks. :)
Thanks for a great transaction.
-Erl
PS: apologies for temporary thread diversion.
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I am seeking a used 165mm Sugino XD2 Crank, Triple 46x36x24 for a bike I am
building for my wife. Should anyone have one in inventory please be in touch.
Many thanks,
Erl
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You made me laugh on the speed increase, and It was a fair trade. Thanks again.
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Brian,
Thanks for the description and pics of your albastache set-up. I use an
albatross bar on my commuter, but your write-up has me pondering an experiment
with albastaches. Did you change stem lengths or rise when you switched from
albatross to albastache?
Thanks,
Erl
PS: I am refusing to
Tony,
Sounds good to me. I plan on being there. I look forward to meeting you and
others.
Thanks,
Erl
Kensington, MD
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I thoroughly enjoyed your description and the photos of the trip. Thanks for
sharing the link.
-Erl
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It was a great ride and my first ride with other RBW folks. Tony, thanks for
organizing and leading us. It was fun comparing our Atlanti. Ken and Howard,
I enjoyed meeting and riding with you both. Seeing a Ramboullait and an
Allrounder in person was a treat I managed to get in 52 miles of
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