Re: [RBW] Re: lock ring too tight

[David Hallerman]

I think, Luke, part of my response was colored by years of reading some 
fellows -- whether here or other digital bike spaces -- disparage the 
use of torque wrenches. But even though I didn't mean tough guy by my 
use of "masculine," I failed when I put it in gender terms. I'm sorry.


But o'wise, sure, torque wrenches are another tool. And I can see how 
there's virtue in having fewer tools. But since torque wrenches help 
insure correct installation of parts, even with experienced hands, I 
would think many hobbyists who are often less experienced would benefit 
from that kind of accuracy.


Then again, I value accuracy.

Dave, who has carefully assembled over 100 bicycle frames over the years 
for myself my wife and friends and so that's where part of my 
perspective comes from


==

On 5/1/23 12:49 PM, Luke Hendrickson wrote:

Dave -

I guess my comment might have led you to believe that I have a tough 
guy mechanic attitude which just isn’t the case. I have over-torqued 
lockrings, but it’s easy to back off and the issue of over-torquing 
isn’t dire like with over-torquing a threaded bb (I always use a 
torque wrench for that).


Be that as it may, most (not all) bike mechanics I’ve met are not 
tough guys looking to prove a point. My aim with my comment was to 
share my opinion that most hobbyists spend too much time faffing with 
tools and buying tools when that often isn’t needed/is overly expensive.


Luke, a sensitive, approachable bike mechanic who wishes to lower the 
economic entry point for at-home mechanics as much as possible

On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 4:19:20 AM UTC-7 David Hallerman wrote:

40Nm doesn’t seem crazy high in practice. I regularly use a torque
wrench to reach that cassette lockring value. And yet the ring is
typically quite easy to take off, with greased threads of course.

While most of us have a good feel for the needed tightness of
various bike threads, I often prefer a torque wrench since it gets
me closer to exact than hand feel might. For me, the higher the
required Nm value, like a lockring’s 40Nm, the more difficult it
can be to get exact (or close to) without a torque wrench.

Dave, who sometimes gets the impression that some bike mechanics
think working without a torque wrench is somehow more masculine

On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 3:43 AM Joe Bernard  wrote:

I just installed one tonight by feel and noted the torque
recommended is 40Nm, that seems crazy high. I hope I never
have to remove one torqued to that number!

On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 12:25:50 AM UTC-7 Luke Hendrickson
wrote:

Also… we don’t use a torque wrench at my shop for
cassettes and tighten by feel. A torque wrench isn’t a
must for everything in my experience.

On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 12:24:31 AM UTC-7 Luke
Hendrickson wrote:

30E3AEA4-5CBE-428E-9C34-ECC1F1826857.pngAdam,

I just purchased the attached which can be had for
about $40-50.

On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 10:47:06 AM UTC-7 Adam wrote:

Thanks everyone,

I managed to make time to sort it out (can't stand
not to have things riding shape) and the case is
closed for now.

It came off with a bit of a struggle. There were a
few bits of aluminum, which I cleaned off.
Everything looks fine, so I re-greased,
re-installed and took it a little easier on the
tightening. All seems good to ride.

Thanks all!

Adam

On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 12:34:11 PM UTC-5 Joe
Bernard wrote:

Agreed with Ian, when it comes to reinstalling
my procress is to give it a good extra tug
after the clattering "it's tight" sounds start
and call it a day. I've tried removing the
way-too-tight ones and it ain't pretty!

On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 8:26:50 AM UTC-7
Ian A wrote:

I'd be inclined to unscrew the lockring
now, while the grease is fresh. I've
always erred on the side of not tight
enough with lockrings because if they do
unscrew in use the only thing that has
happened for me is the shifting has gone
weird.

When you unscrew it, just be careful the
removal tool is firmly seated. If needed
and just to get it broken loose, you could
   

Re: [RBW] Re: lock ring too tight

[David Hallerman]

Of course that was an opinion Joe. And because you also noted concern 
about having "to remove one torqued to that number," I thought it useful 
to introduce my direct experience with lockrings, measured torque 
values, and good old Phil grease. Heck, for some reason lately I've been 
installing and removing several. So I come from that.


Anyway, I'm not sure why my experience with these parts and tools made 
my comments seem unaware of your perspective. Sorry about that.


Dave, who finds that using a torque wrench more and more after 30 years 
of wrenching mainly without is like a .725 free throw shooter in the NBA 
working to make himself a .900 shooter on freebies since my hands are 
good enough now but they could be significantly better and in fact my 
hands better learn the various common torques even as I use the tool


P.S. Can you tell I have playoff basketball on my mind?

==

On 5/1/23 1:29 PM, Joe Bernard wrote:
Also my "seems crazy high" is an opinion. I didn't realize I needed to 
specify "seems to ME" but here we are.


On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 9:49:31 AM UTC-7 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

Dave -

I guess my comment might have led you to believe that I have a
tough guy mechanic attitude which just isn’t the case. I have
over-torqued lockrings, but it’s easy to back off and the issue of
over-torquing isn’t dire like with over-torquing a threaded bb (I
always use a torque wrench for that).

Be that as it may, most (not all) bike mechanics I’ve met are not
tough guys looking to prove a point. My aim with my comment was to
share my opinion that most hobbyists spend too much time faffing
with tools and buying tools when that often isn’t needed/is overly
expensive.

Luke, a sensitive, approachable bike mechanic who wishes to lower
the economic entry point for at-home mechanics as much as possible
On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 4:19:20 AM UTC-7 David Hallerman wrote:

40Nm doesn’t seem crazy high in practice. I regularly use a
torque wrench to reach that cassette lockring value. And yet
the ring is typically quite easy to take off, with greased
threads of course.

While most of us have a good feel for the needed tightness of
various bike threads, I often prefer a torque wrench since it
gets me closer to exact than hand feel might. For me, the
higher the required Nm value, like a lockring’s 40Nm, the more
difficult it can be to get exact (or close to) without a
torque wrench.

Dave, who sometimes gets the impression that some bike
mechanics think working without a torque wrench is somehow
more masculine

On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 3:43 AM Joe Bernard 
wrote:

I just installed one tonight by feel and noted the torque
recommended is 40Nm, that seems crazy high. I hope I never
have to remove one torqued to that number!

On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 12:25:50 AM UTC-7 Luke
Hendrickson wrote:

Also… we don’t use a torque wrench at my shop for
cassettes and tighten by feel. A torque wrench isn’t a
must for everything in my experience.

On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 12:24:31 AM UTC-7 Luke
Hendrickson wrote:

30E3AEA4-5CBE-428E-9C34-ECC1F1826857.pngAdam,

I just purchased the attached which can be had for
about $40-50.

On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 10:47:06 AM UTC-7
Adam wrote:

Thanks everyone,

I managed to make time to sort it out (can't
stand not to have things riding shape) and the
case is closed for now.

It came off with a bit of a struggle. There
were a few bits of aluminum, which I cleaned
off. Everything looks fine, so I re-greased,
re-installed and took it a little easier on
the tightening. All seems good to ride.

Thanks all!

Adam

On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 12:34:11 PM UTC-5
Joe Bernard wrote:

Agreed with Ian, when it comes to
reinstalling my procress is to give it a
good extra tug after the clattering "it's
tight" sounds start and call it a day.
I've tried removing the way-too-tight ones
and it ain't pretty!

On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 8:26:50 AM
UTC-7 Ian A wrote:

  

Re: [RBW] Re: lock ring too tight

[David Hallerman]

40Nm doesn’t seem crazy high in practice. I regularly use a torque wrench
to reach that cassette lockring value. And yet the ring is typically quite
easy to take off, with greased threads of course.

While most of us have a good feel for the needed tightness of various bike
threads, I often prefer a torque wrench since it gets me closer to exact
than hand feel might. For me, the higher the required Nm value, like a
lockring’s 40Nm, the more difficult it can be to get exact (or close to)
without a torque wrench.

Dave, who sometimes gets the impression that some bike mechanics think
working without a torque wrench is somehow more masculine

On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 3:43 AM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> I just installed one tonight by feel and noted the torque recommended is
> 40Nm, that seems crazy high. I hope I never have to remove one torqued to
> that number!
>
> On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 12:25:50 AM UTC-7 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>
>> Also… we don’t use a torque wrench at my shop for cassettes and tighten
>> by feel. A torque wrench isn’t a must for everything in my experience.
>>
>> On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 12:24:31 AM UTC-7 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>>
>>> [image: 30E3AEA4-5CBE-428E-9C34-ECC1F1826857.png]Adam,
>>>
>>> I just purchased the attached which can be had for about $40-50.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 10:47:06 AM UTC-7 Adam wrote:
>>>
 Thanks everyone,

 I managed to make time to sort it out (can't stand not to have things
 riding shape) and the case is closed for now.

 It came off with a bit of a struggle. There were a few bits of
 aluminum, which I cleaned off. Everything looks fine, so I re-greased,
 re-installed and took it a little easier on the tightening. All seems good
 to ride.

 Thanks all!

 Adam

 On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 12:34:11 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Agreed with Ian, when it comes to reinstalling my procress is to give
> it a good extra tug after the clattering "it's tight" sounds start and 
> call
> it a day. I've tried removing the way-too-tight ones and it ain't pretty!
>
> On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 8:26:50 AM UTC-7 Ian A wrote:
>
>> I'd be inclined to unscrew the lockring now, while the grease is
>> fresh. I've always erred on the side of not tight enough with lockrings
>> because if they do unscrew in use the only thing that has happened for me
>> is the shifting has gone weird.
>>
>> When you unscrew it, just be careful the removal tool is firmly
>> seated. If needed and just to get it broken loose, you could use a QR 
>> and a
>> couple of washers to make sure it can't slip and strip the female splines
>> on the lockring.
>>
>> IanA
>>
>> On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 8:06:35 AM UTC-6 Adam wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Asking for thoughts on a silly mistake that I made last night.
>>>
>>> I was in the process of replacing a cassette (had not tried this
>>> myself before) and I cranked way too hard on a fairly long wrench and
>>> over-tightened the lock ring. It dug into the cassette and produced some
>>> little shards. (I did grease the threads, and don't think it's
>>> cross-threaded, all was fine until the END)
>>>
>>> The question: does it make better sense to try to fix this now
>>> (loosen and re-tighten), or should I just save this problem for an 
>>> older,
>>> wiser me in a year or two when I change the cassette again?
>>>
>>> I know I should get a torque wrench, but . . .
>>>
>>> THANKS!
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ramouillet max tire

[David Hallerman]

Thanks Keith, all this is helpful as I’m still tweaking things. I don’t
need fenders right now, so non-rubbing space is my main focus.

Also, I’ve been having fun measuring the same tire on different rims, since
we all know that tire fit depends on more than just the nominal size on the
side of the tire. Here are the actual widths I found for a 700x32 Gravel
King SS tire installed on three different inner diameter rims (in
parentheses), each inflated to 60 psi with tubes.

Mavic Open Pro (15mm) - 30mm wide tire
Velocity A23 (18mm) - 31mm
Velocity Quill (21mm) - 32mm

Obviously, with the exact same amount of rubber, the Quill install that
measured 32 mm wide was less high (I didn’t measure that) than the Open Pro
install at a narrow 30 mm.

Dave, who thinks 700x32 tires are a definite sweet spot

On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 5:48 PM iamkeith  wrote:

> David,
>
> You're probably right that they didn't give me more vertical clearance or
> tire clearance for tires "directly."  My recollection is that they gave me
> more room for the fenders, so I could shove them higher, which IN TURN gave
> me more room for the taller tires.  Basically, the shape of the space below
> and between the arms is better.  It's been many years, so all I remenber is
> that I could NOT fit both the 33.33 tires and fenders until I switched from
> the stock shimano brakes.  It might not matter to someone who doesn't want
> to run fenders, but that's not me.
>
> (My wife's bike still has the stock brakes, so I could find the model
> number if ti matters to anyone.  I think they were pretty standard 105
> series medium reach calipers)
>
> On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 12:16:09 PM UTC-6 David Hallerman wrote:
>
>> Hi. Not clear how the Tektro R539s give more clearance than, say, Shimano
>> R-600 brakes. Or were you talking about other Shimano brakes?
>>
>> Dave, who has R-600s on his Rambouillet but is always looking for more
>> tire space
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 12:57 PM iamkeith  wrote:
>>
>>> Forgot to mention: I upgraded to the Tektro R539 brakes on my bike which
>>> help alot.  Wife's still has the stock Shmano brakes.  I'm not sure why Riv
>>> doesn't still sell the Tektros.  I thougth that, like the R559, they were
>>> their own design.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 10:28:04 AM UTC-6 iamkeith wrote:
>>>
>>>> It changed a little over time, with the later  ones having a bit more
>>>> clearance than the first-run orange ones.   I think the green ones were the
>>>> last (?) so, presumably, they have at least as good as the blue ones.
>>>> Additionally, my own experience tells me that there is a bit of
>>>> difference between the 700c and 559 wheel size frames.
>>>>
>>>> My 60 cm / 700c 2006 blue one has 33.33 jack browns and sks (esge)
>>>> fenders with plenty of clearance.  That's the most I could do though, and
>>>> the brakes are the limiting factor.  As the literature at the time
>>>> suggested, I think it would fit a 37 mm without a fender
>>>>
>>>> My wife has a same-year 50 cm / 559 frame and it would have a little
>>>> less clearance because the rear brake bridge is installed sliightly lower
>>>> relative to the rim.  She's happy with a 1" (28mm) tire and no fenders
>>>> though.   It might fit a 32mm.
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 10:07:58 AM UTC-6 cdres...@gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I know this has been covered before but still not quite sure what the
>>>>> max tire size is for a Rambouillet. Mine is a 2003 and right now I run
>>>>> 700x25 with plastic fenders. When I replace those tires with larger ones
>>>>> but it looks pretty tight to go no more than a 28. Herse has the Chinook
>>>>> (28) and the Cayuse Pass (26).
>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ramouillet max tire

[David Hallerman]

Hi. Not clear how the Tektro R539s give more clearance than, say, Shimano
R-600 brakes. Or were you talking about other Shimano brakes?

Dave, who has R-600s on his Rambouillet but is always looking for more tire
space

On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 12:57 PM iamkeith  wrote:

> Forgot to mention: I upgraded to the Tektro R539 brakes on my bike which
> help alot.  Wife's still has the stock Shmano brakes.  I'm not sure why Riv
> doesn't still sell the Tektros.  I thougth that, like the R559, they were
> their own design.
>
> On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 10:28:04 AM UTC-6 iamkeith wrote:
>
>> It changed a little over time, with the later  ones having a bit more
>> clearance than the first-run orange ones.   I think the green ones were the
>> last (?) so, presumably, they have at least as good as the blue ones.
>> Additionally, my own experience tells me that there is a bit of
>> difference between the 700c and 559 wheel size frames.
>>
>> My 60 cm / 700c 2006 blue one has 33.33 jack browns and sks (esge)
>> fenders with plenty of clearance.  That's the most I could do though, and
>> the brakes are the limiting factor.  As the literature at the time
>> suggested, I think it would fit a 37 mm without a fender
>>
>> My wife has a same-year 50 cm / 559 frame and it would have a little less
>> clearance because the rear brake bridge is installed sliightly lower
>> relative to the rim.  She's happy with a 1" (28mm) tire and no fenders
>> though.   It might fit a 32mm.
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 10:07:58 AM UTC-6 cdres...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I know this has been covered before but still not quite sure what the
>>> max tire size is for a Rambouillet. Mine is a 2003 and right now I run
>>> 700x25 with plastic fenders. When I replace those tires with larger ones
>>> but it looks pretty tight to go no more than a 28. Herse has the Chinook
>>> (28) and the Cayuse Pass (26).
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Some really nice Rivendell wool…

[David Hallerman]

Yeah, that relisting makes me suspicious about what might have happened the
first time around.

That said, I still love it. Maybe I should buy it and just lose 10 pounds
or so off my already skinny bod. Nah.

On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 11:32 AM Eric Marth  wrote:

> Well, for those of us who missed the jersey now we have the opportunity to
> buy it! For $200 more than before!
>
> They didn't even take new pictures.
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/334693544769
>
> On Monday, January 2, 2023 at 3:34:12 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:
>
>> According to Jim's page on the jerseys these were produced in 2007
>>
>> http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/preview_jersey_olive.html
>>
>> I'm not a jersey guy but I'd like to have one of these.
>>
>> On Monday, January 2, 2023 at 2:47:25 PM UTC-5 Hetchins52 wrote:
>>
>>> That was VERY nice! Would have worked with my green Platypus!
>>> When were those made and sold?
>>> David Lipsky
>>> Berkeley
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 1, 2023 at 2:38:22 PM UTC-8 David Hallerman wrote:
>>>
>>>> …for the smaller among us. I love the color, would have bought the
>>>> jersey if its fit favored my body.
>>>>
>>>> Dave, who has no connection whatsoever with the seller
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/155338119505?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=xVErmBxvSyK=2349624=8RYRb3KuTHC=_ver=artemis=COPY
>>>>
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[RBW] Some really nice Rivendell wool…

[David Hallerman]

…for the smaller among us. I love the color, would have bought the jersey
if its fit favored my body.

Dave, who has no connection whatsoever with the seller

https://www.ebay.com/itm/155338119505?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=xVErmBxvSyK=2349624=8RYRb3KuTHC=_ver=artemis=COPY

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Re: [RBW] Is there a 31.8 clamp drop bar comparable to a Nitto Noodle 54cm?

[David Hallerman]

Scott, the Nitto M151 is a new favorite. Somewhat shallower with less reach
than Noodles, but still same basic effects for me.

I have the 31.8 version on my Gunnar Sport, and the 26.0 clamp size
(everything else the same) on my Rambouillet.

https://www.retro-gression.com/products/nitto-m151f-ssb-handlebar

That’s where I bought the bars. Interesting online presence.

Dave

Hudson Valley NY

On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 10:07 PM 'Scott' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hey, all:
>
> I'm wanting to try a 54cm Nitto Noodle drop, but I want to keep my 31.8
> Faceplater to facilitate cockpit changes.
>
> Anyone know of a comparable bar or solution? Maybe I should just get a
> Noodle and stem for change outs...
>
> Also, am I on the right track going with a Noodle (54cm cuz I'm tall)? I
> plan on using it as a cockpit option for my Atlantis build.
>
> Happy Holidays,
>
> Scott
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Re: [RBW] Dura-Ace and Japanese Recycling

[David Hallerman]

That’s much like how I’ve found Dura-Ace FDs of that era, the originally
8-speed 7410 in specific, are perfect for the 48/34 compact doubles I run
on many of my bikes.

I wonder how those late 20th century FDs would do with subcompact doubles,
like a 46/30. Has anyone here done that?

Dave, who has his first 46/30 crankset incoming which sparks curiosity
+
Hudson Valley NY

On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 9:42 PM Mike Godwin  wrote:

> John discovered the older FD magic. All my bikes have older (late 20th
> century) generally two-ring FDs - Campy, Suntour, Shimano - shifting
> triples. I really like the aesthetics and function.
>
> Mike "scrounging the bike kitchen for gems" Godwin SLO CA
> On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 5:48:30 PM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> Hey Aaron and Scott,
>>
>> I'll snap a photo when I'm out and about tomorrow. The Atlantis is a 2005
>> (I believe)Toyo Scott, regarding the FD, it was a braze-on mounted one so I
>> bought an 28.6 clamp for it. No fussing around with it and it shifts
>> beautifully.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> John
>>
>> On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 5:34:58 PM UTC-8 Scott wrote:
>>
>>> I wanna see a full size pic, too, please! Toyo or MIT? Judging by space
>>> between rear wheel and seat tube, probably Toyo?
>>>
>>> Such a handsome FD! Clamp size is 31.8? No fussing to mount it? I'm
>>> building a new 62cm MIT Atlantis right now and am on hunt for a FD for it.
>>> Think I just found some direction...
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>> 
>>>
>>> John,
>>>
>>> Thanks for sharing and teaching me about Gomi. Sometimes small reminders
>>> are the best.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Aaron in El Paso
>>>
>>>
>>> p.s. a full size photo of the Atlantis is now expected.
>>>
>>> On Dec 2, 2022, at 17:34, John Rinker  wrote:
>>>
>>> One interesting thing about living in Japan is the gomi. 'Gomi' is any
>>> trash/refuse/garbage that is bigger than a toaster oven and must have a
>>> special tag in order for it to be disposed of. Japan's recycling system is
>>> complicated but effective, and the gomi is just one aspect of it.
>>>
>>> It never ceased to amaze me what can be found in the gomi- beautiful
>>> furniture, golf clubs, karaoke machines, and, yes, bicycles. While
>>> technically one is not supposed to take things from the gomi, during my two
>>> years in Japan, I couldn't resist pulling a number of bicycles from the
>>> gomi including a brand new Tern folding bicycle and a 1990s-era Bottechia
>>> racing bicycle, handmade with Columbus tubing and a Dura-ace groupset. The
>>> Bottechia looked as though it had been ridden less than a dozen times, and
>>> the Dura-Ace (7400) is in mint condition. The Japanese tend to treat their
>>> goods with care and respect, and the Bottechia was no exception.
>>>
>>> Alas, the frame was far too small for me and Italian racing bikes, while
>>> very beautiful don't really fit my style of riding. Before offering up the
>>> frame to a local shop, I did strip all the parts and was left with a
>>> beautiful group of Shimano's finest road mech.
>>>
>>> Fast forward to last week, when I swapped out the crankset on my
>>> Atlantis and found that the beautiful Dura-Ace front derailleur works
>>> beautifully with the Rene Herse triple...even in the snow.
>>>
>>> I miss so much about living in Japan, to my mind the most civilized of
>>> countries, but I'm delighted to know that as I pedal about exploring the
>>> mountains of BC I'll have a bit of Japanese trash adorning my bicycle.
>>>
>>> Cheers, John
>>> [image: IMG_0058.jpeg]
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Re: [RBW] Re: Your cyclist vs. motorist war/horror stories

[David Hallerman]

I entirely agree. I mostly successfully avoid giving those unskilled auto
drivers the finger. However, as I wave in a friendly way, but with my heart
burning, I think how I’m still giving the rotten person my middle finger,
just camouflaged by its four friends.

Dave, who does not trust any driver even in this relatively calm section of
exurbia

On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 1:40 AM Pam Bikes  wrote:

> I never use the one finger salute, I always use the friendly wave and
> smile tactic.  (I don't give anyone the power to ruin my ride.) … [lots of
> good stuff]


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Re: [RBW] Re: Long reach brake options for AHH

[David Hallerman]

Maybe kick-ass long reach caliper brakes are inherently unlikely because
the needed length alone - no matter what great brake pads are installed -
makes the brake arms less forceful than, say, medium reach brakes (like on
my Ram).

On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 7:50 AM Daniel MacPherson 
wrote:

> I agree with the sentiment that road bikes look better with calipers on
> them. Though I find the long-reach caliper brakes (Tektro R559) to be
> rather ugly looking. Road bikes with disc brakes or v-brakes still look odd
> to me. I assume they must be gravel or cyclocross bikes. Maybe Rivendell
> should develop some kick-ass long reach caliper brakes.
>
>
> Daniel M
>
> Tallahassee Fl
>
> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 10:31:46 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Part of the Riv association with long-reach calipers (my opinion) is
>> Grant had them made back in the days when road bikes were closely
>> associated with calipers and he wanted more room for big tires. We don't
>> think anything of it now but at the time if your bike had canti posts it
>> was a tourer or mtb, you couldn't sell it to folks looking for a road
>> frame.
>>
>> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 6:24:33 PM UTC-7 A. D. M. wrote:
>>
>>> I assume the folks at Rivendell find them adequate. I’ve used the 559s
>>> (with kook stop pads) on a fixed gear with a front brake only in the
>>> mountains and found it worked fine. I’ve actually done this on multiple
>>> 650b fixed conversions. I’ve even used DC750s in this setup.
>>>
>>> I’ve also used the Mafac Raids and thought they were fine (but finicky
>>> to set up sans squealing).
>>>
>>> I like v brakes the most for ease of setup and stopping power but many
>>> people find them “grabby.” I have yet to find a brake I find inadequate
>>> (with kool stop pads).
>>>
>>> I think brake performance expectations vary quite a bit.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Aaron in El Paso
>>>
>>> On Jul 9, 2022, at 18:52, Johnny Alien  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> I didn't realize those brakes would not work. They were marked as long
>>> reach. I can't remember what I used them on before but it must have been
>>> something for mid-reach brakes.
>>>
>>> IMO I am just baffled they keep making bikes for those brakes when there
>>> are no great options with great stopping power. Especially when there are
>>> so many nice V, mini-V and canti brakes out there.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 8:28:16 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>>>
 Yes, the AHH in question uses long reach calipers, not mid reach like
 the VO.

 My experience with long reach calipers has been universally bad
 (Tektro, DC centerpulls). They're adequate in the dry, but with wet rims,
 there is no stopping power at all.

 I like a lot about the AHH, but I wouldn't get it due to the brakes.

 Eric
 Plain City, OH
 where I'm not really satisfied with the mid reach Tektros on my current
 Trek,either

 On Sat, Jul 9, 2022 at 8:21 PM  wrote:

> The issue with the VO is they are only midreach (47-57). Many Riv
> bikes require longer reach.
>
> Best,
>
> Aaron in El Paso
>
> On Jul 9, 2022, at 17:55, Forrest  wrote:
>
> Johnny, I had those brakes on a bike once. Very good stopping power;
> they seemed a little stouter than other sidepulls.
>
> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 6:43:41 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> Forgot the link.
>>
>>
>> https://velo-orange.com/collections/brakes/products/grand-cru-long-reach-brakes
>>
>> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 7:43:25 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> If I had a bike that needed long sidepulls these are the ones I
>>> would have. I have used them before and I don't think there is a long 
>>> reach
>>> that is as strong.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 6:58:27 PM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote:
>>>
 On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 8:37:19 AM UTC-5 Pierre wrote:

> Not super happy with the original Silver calipers raw stopping
> power (admittedly quite spoiled by excellent hydro discs on other 
> bikes).
>

 I had mixed results with Silver/Tektro long-reach dual-pivot
 brakes. On my Bleriot, with some dual-compound pads, they were 
 brilliant.
 On other bikes I had less brilliant experiences. I suspect it had 
 something
 to do with the levers I was using, but I never did a full, controlled
 experiment. The levers on my Bleriot were older Aero Gran Compe. I 
 also can
 suggest that low-compression cable housing made a difference for me.

 That said, the Yokozuna hybrid disc brakes on my newest bike (which
 replaced the Bleriot) are a very different feel. I can't definitely say
 they have more ultimate power, but it takes a lot less hand power to 
 get to
 max.

 I have the Dia Compe 610-N calipers 

Re: [RBW] Prescription sunglasses with progressive lenses

[David Hallerman]

My wife and I have been wearing Rudy Project Rydon glasses for years now,
she with progressives (and happy with them).

Just go to the company site to find local opticians that work with RP for
doing progressives. Wide range of lens color choices and types,
photochromic and polarized, for example.

Dave, who is fascinated by product models such as the Rydon or the Ikea
Poang chair which stay in their company line for decades and what that says
about excellent design

On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 2:27 AM Jamie Kaplan  wrote:

> Can anyone recommend sunglasses brand that is good for progressive
> prescription lens with optimal coverage?
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Re: [RBW] FS: Spurcycle bell

[David Hallerman]

Sometimes I ring my resonant Spurcycle bell at other people. But just as
often, I ring the musical long-decay sound simply reacting to that
ride-moment’s delight. Ah….

On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 2:25 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Super blingy, made in Sausalito CA., I just don't seem to ever ring it so
> I didn't put it back when I swapped bars a couple years ago.
> $25 shipped.
>
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Re: [RBW] Beausage

[David Hallerman]

Yup, my memory says Grant, too.

Beautiful Usage

On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 5:55 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I think it was Grant who made up this word, way back in the 1990s -- can
> anyone confirm (or correct)?
>
> At any rate, it has made the big time, listed in a real, online urban
> dictionary (if it's online, it must be real):
> https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Beausage
>
> I was perusing Craig Montgomery's touring Flickr album (wonderful, and I
> generally get bored after a few photos) where he used the term, so I
> Googled it and found the Urban Dictionary link. Yes, I'd heard about it
> long before this.
>
> I know that Grant says that the word is pronounced "BEW-sij," but he's
> wrong. It is pronounced bow-SAHHJ, in the French manner, which is much more
> impressive.
>
> Patrick "not much beausage on my bikes, but plenty on my person" Moore
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Re: [RBW] Re: How do you track mileage?

[David Hallerman]

Kinda like me, except my biggest challenge using Ride With GPS is 
turning it off at the end of a ride.


On 3/2/22 1:20 PM, MoVelo wrote:
I use Ride with GPS on my iPhone. It keeps track of yearly mileage and 
all the other stats, pauses when I pause and can run it the background 
whilst I surf other apps.


Also there is a pretty big library of rides from others who have 
shared with the app.


Remembering to turn it on at the beginning of a ride is my biggest 
challenge.


JP

On Wednesday, March 2, 2022 at 10:04:49 AM UTC-6 philipr...@gmail.com 
wrote:


GPS mapping software is smart enough to understand a brief break
for tunnels. Bridges & underpasses are not a problem as there are
multiple satellites feeding the data all the way across the
horizon so you may lose a more overhead signal but not one coming
at you from in front or behind. As for accuracy, I'm not sure how
much closer you want than the typical 16' which the standard GPS
receivers like your phone or Garmin deliver? Since you're
traveling rather than static you are giving the mapping software
flowing data points to extrapolate against for better accuracy
than standing still too.

There's no way a cycle computer could be calibrated that
accurately & the margin of error will increase with the mileage.

I use Strava combined with a Wahoo Tickr wrist strap as I like to
be mix up my HR efforts & I tend to ride too hard. I don't
slavishly follow the data but Strave lets you input which bike you
rode that day which is a great way of keeping overall mileage records.




On Wednesday, March 2, 2022 at 9:46:12 AM UTC-6 George Schick wrote:

Reading through the blog post makes me wonder if anyone has
ridden a bike with a carefully calibrated cycle odometer -
maybe using the "roll out" method to determine accuracy -
along with one of these GPS units to see how accurate the GPS
really is. Seems like riding through areas where the sky is
blocked temporarily by tall buildings, underpasses, heavy
forestation, etc. would have to have some effect on overall
mileage tracked.  Plus, the run-of-the-mill GPS units that
individuals can use, be it a specific device (Garmin) or a
cell phone,  aren't as accurate to begin with as the high
quality equipment that people like surveyors use.

Just curious.  I have a friend who will be riding in the Great
Cycle Challenge, a fundraiser for the Children's Cancer
Research Fund, again this year and I've carefully calibrated
her cycle computer - which I'm not even sure she's used - so
she can compare the results with the GPS info that the
fundraiser uses to track participant's mileage.


On Wednesday, March 2, 2022 at 8:38:52 AM UTC-6 aeroperf wrote:

I use a Sigma BC 12.12 Bike Computer, wired, and read it
into a spreadsheet with the Sigma DataCenter program.
I bought a bunch of them years ago and calibrate them for
each bike on the trail I ride.

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[RBW] FS :: Wool bike clothing Ibex Woolistic + other [long]

[David Hallerman]

Hi. A combination of downsizing and inadvertent weight loss over the 
past few years (for reasons neither bad nor good), on top of my huge 
love of Ibex clothing (I believe purchases by me and my wife were often 
cited at their annual board meetings), means some really nice wool men’s 
clothing for sale today. Also some Woolistic jerseys, knickers, Pearl 
Izumi arm & leg warmers, and…well, please look below.


Sizing help: The 15 items are nominally size medium or large, and most 
actually are. I’m 5’10” and now about 145 lbs. and when pieces like the 
sky blue wool jersey fit me in a relaxed but not loose way, “club fit” 
it’s often called, I was about 165 lbs.


Quick note about condition. New is tried on, never worn. Near-new was 
worn only about a handful of times. And excellent was worn more than 
that. But all these pieces are free of holes and stains and fading, 
which would be less than excellent.


Wool fashion pictures, click here 
(https://photos.app.goo.gl/CpEBxFJsa5ta3SzY8) and all non-fashion 
questions quickly answered. As before, prices cover shipping if buyers 
cover the Paypal fee. Thanks for looking!


Dave, who welcomes questions about specific dimensions especially for 
some odd pieces but for now wanted to gather the photos write up the 
notes and post the items

==
Hudson Valley NY

/Notes following. Photos here://
//https://photos.app.goo.gl/CpEBxFJsa5ta3SzY8/

1.   Ibex Climawool hooded jacket, grey M, near-new = $165
2.   Ibex Loden wool coat, charcoal M, near-new = $235
3.   SportHill XC winter pants, black M, near-new = $75
4.   Woolistic/Bouré long-sleeve jersey, red/black L, exc. = $53
5.   Los Angeles wool knickers, black 34, NEW = $85
6.   Pearl Izumi arm warmers, black L, near-new = $21
7.   Ibex bouclé wool jacket, black M, exc. = $75
8.   Pr’Ana cotton/spandex (2%) knickers, brown L, exc. = $35
9.   Woolistic/Bouré long-sleeve jersey, sky blue L, exc. = $68
10.   Woolistic Molteni long-sleeve sweater jersey, rust/black M, NEW = $155
11.   Ibex wool sweater/layer, charcoal M, near-new = $45
12.   Pearl Izumi leg warmers, black L, near-new = $27
13.   Ibex bouclé wool sweater/layer, charcoal M, near-new = $110
14.   Unis-Sport short-sleeve summer wool, white/red L, NEW = $58
15.   Ibex bouclé wool sweater/layer, black M, exc. = $80

_*NOTES*_
/All wool items washed only cold water, Kookaburra detergent./
1.   Ibex Climawool makes for a nicely wind-resistant top layer.
2.   Ibex Loden is very heavy wool, will last you forever. Easy to layer 
under.
3.   SportHill pants fit like a medium should. If I liked winter sports 
more, I’d keep ‘em.

4.   This red wool jersey is a richer red than the photos show
5.   No brand markings on the elegant Los Angeles wool knickers with 
satin lining, styled like dress pants, but I remember it’s from an LA 
company. They’re a real 34; I’m not.

6.   PI arm warmers, classic.
7.   Ibex bouclé offers that extra warmth from the looped, curled yarn.
8.   Pr’Ana knickers, while marked size large, fit more like a 34 (aka, 
medium).
9.   The bright simplicity of this sky blue Woolistic jersey is peak 
cycling fashion in my eyes.
10.   Woolistic made this particular brand-new Molteni sweater jersey so 
that it’s a bit small for the size medium it’s marked, a bit short and a 
bit tight on me.

11.   An Ibex wool garment with thin wool great for layering.
12.   PI leg warmers, also classic.
13.   This bouclé wool Ibex sweater is heavier weight than #7.
14.   Unis-Sport (which I believe was connected with Woolistic) made 
this delightful, super-lightweight, 100% wool Faema-sponsored garment. 
Wear it in summer!

15.   The black bouclé Ibex sweater brother of #13.

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[RBW] FS :: Single-Speed Freewheels & Fixed Cogs Shimano Suntour NEW

[David Hallerman]

Hello!

I still love my single-speed bike, a Gunnar Streetdog that was one of 
the first frames built by that Wisconsin brand at the close of the 20th 
century. But I don’t futz around with its gearing as much. So perhaps 
you might want one or two of these new Shimano single-speed freewheels 
and Suntour, Shimano, and Sub 11.0 (Quality Bike Products) track cogs 
for your own futzing pleasure.


As with my other sales, prices include shipping for buyers who cover the 
Paypal fee, pictures on request, and questions quickly answered. Thanks 
for looking!


Dave, who notes that the Sub 11.0 cogs were manufactured by or for QBP 
in the U.S.


Hudson Valley NY

_*Freewheels & Track Cogs*_
Shimano MX-30 freewheel 1/8” and 3/32” 16-teeth (2 available) = $31 ea.
Shimano MX-30 freewheel 1/8” and 3/32” 17-teeth (2 available) = $31 ea.
Shimano MX-30 freewheel 1/8” and 3/32” 18-teeth = $31
Suntour Superbe Pro (HC-100) track cog 3/32” 17-teeth = $26
Suntour Superbe Pro (HC-100) track cog 1/8” 18-teeth (2 available) = $26 ea.
Shimano Dura-Ace (7600) track cog 3/32” 15-teeth = $23
Shimano Dura-Ace (7600) track cog 3/32” 16-teeth = $23
Sub 11.0 (QPB) track cog 3/32” 16-teeth = $22
Sub 11.0 (QPB) track cog 3/32” 17-teeth (2 available) = $22 ea.
Sub 11.0 (QPB) track cog 3/32” 18-teeth (2 available) = $22 ea.
Sub 11.0 (QPB) track cog 3/32” 19-teeth (2 available) = $22 ea.

_*HG Hub Single-Speed Cog Package*_
You probably already know that a Shimano HyperGlide hub can be given the 
function of a single-speed freewheel by installing a combination of 
spacers and a single HG cog. That’s what’s here in this package. Any 
questions? Price for all 3 sprockets and 17 spacers = $33 shipped

Alloy Accent HG spacers 3mm blue = 10 qty.
Alloy Accent HG spacers 3mm purple = 7 qty.
Shimano MX-66 single sprocket 15-teeth = 1 qty.
Shimano MX-66 single sprocket 16-teeth = 1 qty.
Shimano MX-66 single sprocket 18-teeth = 1 qty.

_*Sachs Freewheel Cogs Package*_
Several Sachs/Aris freewheel cogs in this package deal. Price for all 
five shipped = $29

Sachs/Aris freewheel cog 21-teeth
Sachs/Aris freewheel cog 18-teeth
Sachs/Aris freewheel cog threaded 16-teeth
Sachs/Aris freewheel cog threaded 14-teeth
Sachs/Aris freewheel cog threaded 12-teeth

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Re: [RBW] Re: Cold Weather Riding Gear

[David Hallerman]

One main thing I've found to keep my head warm when it's really cold, 
45° and below, besides a thin wool watch cap and a Chrome hoodie is a 
helmet one size larger. My winter helmet. Because I dunno how it works 
for others, but more than a thin item underneath my normal size helmet 
is too tight. Doesn't work for warmth, gives me a literal headache.


One size up. For my helmet, and it's the same way I keep my feet warm. 
Winter cycling boots, but one size up from normal. And then I wear 
super-thick Smartwool or Darn Tough hiking socks with lots of cushion. 
Again, not tight, which means air circulates, which keeps my feet warmer.


Dave, who notes temps right now here in the lower Hudson Valley are in 
the mid-20s which is kinda below his winter cycling comfort zone


==

On 1/27/22 11:55 AM, Ben Mihovk wrote:
I have the ear-flap cap from Randi Jo, and I'm going to go on record 
and say it's one of the best purchases I've made. I'll ride in "feels 
like" single digits and this cap under my helmet with a Smartwool neck 
gaiter pulled up to my chin keeps me warm enough for a good 25-30 
minutes in the coldest temps. The cap is an absolute dream to have all 
the way up into the 40s and 50s, too. It never gets too hot up into 
that range.


Ben in Omaha

On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 10:28:14 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:



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this talk here and there on the threads about Who Is Wearing What
for cold weather riding made me start a dedicated thread. There
are certainly some archived threads on cold weather gear, but
offerings change so here’s an updated thread. I am interested in
this topic because I now live in Southwest Michigan and cannot
bring myself to bike in temps below 35. But I miss riding so much,
and if the roads are clear of snow and ice, I’d like to go. But
what to wear?

Last night I attended a Zoom with the famous Betty Foy rider and
Cycling Savvy instructor Pamela Murray, and this was our very
subject. There were a lot of good ideas presented, the common
denominator being WOOL. Today I looked around online for some
clothing that would help me out. Until December, I had been living
in the desert so I’ll have a few pieces I’ll have to purchase, but
most people won’t have to buy so much. Here are some things I
found (and some of which I did order):

REI jacket is not, admittedly, wool. But it gets wonderful reviews
and it does have pit vents, reflectors and is made from recycled
nylon so it’s not contributing to the landfill problem. The hood
is meant to fit over the helmet - a huge plus.

The helmet is because my Nutcase is between 9-10 years old and
disintegrating inside, so never mind that. (But won’t it be cute
with my jacket?)

The leg warmers were recommended by Pam, and after looking around
online, they seem to have no rival. They are wool and made in the
USA. Sustainable this and that, all the good stuff.

The cap is wool and from our Randi Jo out of Elkton, OR. My ears
have been freezing when I’m out running because stocking caps
creep up and expose my ears. Headbands don’t keep your head warm.
This cap does double duty and I’m excited to try it.

Analog has some really promising “pogies” by their 5th Season
house brand, but they are for drop bars and they have not yet said
whether they will work for swept back bars like most of us ride -
I’ll find out. I think these could be a great option for keeping
hands warm.

I don’t have a plan for shoes yet, but I have tons of Smartwool
socks and lots of boots, so something will likely work.

I’m sending photos of the new gear in case it helps anyone else.
The jacket comes in men’s as well.
Leah

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[RBW] FS :: 700x35 Tires, Schwalbe & Clement

[David Hallerman]

Hi – I’ll be listing more tires, but for now I've got three pairs of 
lightly used (approx. mileage in parenthesis) 700x35 tires I'd like to 
pass on. Prices include shipping for buyers who cover the Paypal fee. If 
you need photos, just let me know.


Clement X’Plor USH 700x35 120 tpi (10 miles) = $40
Schwalbe Kojak 700x35 black (200 miles) = $30
Clement X’Plor USH 700x35 120 tpi (300 miles) = $30

Any interest? Thanks for looking!

Dave, who says none are tubeless ready
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[RBW] PRICE DROP of 20% to 30%: Chainrings NEW 110/74 & 130 [long]

[David Hallerman]

Hello!

Our downsizing sale continues with a new discount on the chainrings 
still here. Take 20% from the original prices listed for one item. Take 
25% off for 2 items. And take 30% off for 3 or more items.


All of these chainrings are new, except for the Suntour #16. Most items 
are sold as sets, triples and doubles, mainly 110/74 BCD and several 130 
BCD. There’s also a bunch of 74 BCD solo grannies, and a few single 
rings. A few sets were installed and removed, but never ridden, never 
chained. Some chainrings have varying degrees of ramps and pins (RP), 
while some are flat (FL), and are marked with those two acronyms, RP or FL.


All prices include shipping when buyers cover Paypal fees. Photos 
available as needed. Questions quickly answered.


Dave, who so far is most surprised that all of the Sugino Alpina Cospea 
chainrings have not yet sold

_*
*__*Double RP*_
2.   FSA Pro 48/34 black/silver RP = $50
3.   Sugino Alpina Cospea 50/36 black/silver RP = $65
4.   FSA Pro 48/36 black/silver RP = $45
5.   FSA Pro 50/36 black/silver RP = $45
6.   Vuelta USA 48/38 bronze/silver RP = $40

_*Triple RP*_
7.   Vuelta SE Plus 46/34/24 black/silver RP = $60
9.   Avitar Werx 46/36/24 black RP = $60

_*Double FL*_
11.   Salsa 50/38 110 BCD silver FL = $30
12.   Sugino/Avitar 52/38 110 BCD silver FL = $25

_*Triple FL*_
16.   Suntour XC Comp PowerRing 46/36/24 dark grey/black used/exc. = $25

_*Granny Rings 74 BCD FL*_
19.   Sakae Platinum 26 silver = $25
20.   Vuelta USA 26 silver = $20
22.   Sakae Ringyo 26 black = $20
23.   Shimano 26 black = $20
24.   Sakae Ninja stainless 28 silver = $25
25.   QBP Engagement Ring 28 silver = $20

_*130 BCD RP & FL*_
27.   Shimano Dura-Ace (7700) 53/39 130 BCD silver RP = $85
28.   Shimano Ultegra (6500) 53/39 130 BCD silver RP = $70
29.   Race Face Cadence 53/39 130 BCD silver RP = $75
30.   Salsa 52/38 130 BCD silver FL = $40
31.   Suntour 52/42 130 BCD silver FL = $35
32.   Vuelta USA 52/38 130 BCD silver FL = $35
33.   Sugino 50/44 130 BCD silver FL = $30
34.   Sakae Ringyo 48/38 130 BCD silver FL = $30

_*Singles FL*_
35.   QBP Engagement Ring 42T 144 BCD silver FL = $25
36.   QBP Engagement Ring 52T 110 BCD silver FL = $25
37.   Sakae Ringyo 50T 110 BCD silver FL = $20
38.   Sugino 52T 130 BCD silver FL = $20

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[RBW] FS: Bar Tape, Leather Cinelli Lizard-Skins Fizik Specialized more [long]

[David Hallerman]

Hello! I’ve arranged today’s sale of handlebar tapes by color. Actually, 
I’m surprised that I’ve not seen an online bike retailer present bar 
tape that same way, since if you want RED bar tape, then yellow tape 
from a company whose tape you like still ain’t gonna help you. But 
leather tapes are listed first, separate from the chromatic arrangement.


That said, have fun. Isn’t bar tape the most fun part of bike stuff? All 
those colors and textures! I’ve listed 40 pairs of different bar tapes 
in 10 different shades. All new, although some pairs are a bit older. 
Prices include shipping, photos available on request, and your questions 
quickly answered.


Dave, who notes that when a bar tape package lists a more descriptive 
term for its color such as “tangerine orange” it’s listed that way below


_*LEATHER*_
Brooks Leather, antique brown = $45
Velo Orange Grand Cru Leather, espresso (brown) = $60
Walnut Studio Coil Leather Bar Wraps, dark brown = $75
Walnut Studio Coil Leather Bar Wraps, honey = $75
Brooks Leather, raspberry (rare!) = $95

_*BROWN/TAN*_
Serfas Cork, tan = $14
Cinelli Cork, tan = $17

_*RED*_
Profile Design Cork, red = $11
Deda Elementi Logo Tape, dark red = $12
Cinelli Cork Gel, red = $17
Planet Bike Gel, red = $17
Bontrager Gel, viper red = $17
Lizard Skins DSP 1.8mm, red = $27
Lizard Skins DSP 3.2mm, crimson red = $34

_*GREEN*_
Deda Elementi Logo Tape, jaguar green = $11
Deda Elementi Logo Tape, dark green = $11
Soma Thick & Zesty, jade green = $15
Soma Thick & Zesty, kelly green (2 available) = $15 ea.
Planet Bike Gel, celeste green = $17
Specialized S-Wrap Roubaix, teal = $23

_*BLUE*_
Deda Elementi Logo Tape, light navy = $11
Bontrager Cork, blue = $17
Bontrager Gel, blue = $18

_*YELLOW*_
Cinelli Cork Gel, yellow = $17
Planet Bike Gel, yellow = $17
Lizard Skins DSP 2.5mm, yellow  = $31

_*PURPLE*_
Off The Front Shuade (suede-like), purple = $16
Specialized S-Wrap Roubaix, purple = $25

_*ORANGE*_
Lizard Skins DSP 2.5mm, tangerine orange  = $31

_*BLACK*_
Arundel Cork, black = $17
Off The Front Cyclo-Cross (/ask me/), black = $17
Scott Grip Wrap - /*see note*/ - black (6 available) = $23 ea.
Fizik Microtex w/Bargel pads, black (2 available) = $43 ea.

_*WHITE*_
Cinelli Cork Gel, white = $17
Planet Bike Gel, white = $17
Specialized S-Wrap Roubaix, white = $21
Scott Grip Wrap - /*see note*/ - white (2 available) = $23 ea.

_*GREY*_
Serfas Synthetic Cork, grey = $14
Off The Front Shuade (suede-like), grey = $16
Off The Front/Richard Sachs, grey = $22

+
/*Note: Scott Grip Wrap* is the unique, now 30-year-old bar wrap that’s 
still great. Here’s why: The highly stretchable, pliable, rubber-like 
material has stayed supple in my workshop, still in great condition. On 
the handlebars it has some give, but works wonders when layered over 
some older gel/cork tape. It’s a smooth-surface tape, for those who like 
their tape smooth. Non-adhesive, Grip Wrap rewraps easily, is washable, 
and comes in long-length packages for big handlebars. Back in the 1990s, 
it was by far my favorite tape, had it on at least five bikes. So early 
this century, when Scott Grip Wrap tape was hard to find but a large 
stash became available, I bought it. And I’ve used only a few from that 
stash because of this: Scott Grip Wrap came in only three colors: black, 
white, grey. And with more bikes than five, my palette has expanded too. 
Even so, if you could use a unique black or white tape (I have no grey 
to sell) as I’ve described it, consider this./

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[RBW] Re: FS :: Seatposts - Enve Nitto Salsa Suntour Velo-Orange more

[David Hallerman]

Hi - Quick update, the seatposts still available as of 2:22pm on 1/18/22 
below. Thanks for looking, thanks for your purchases, thanks for your 
questions and comments. - Dave


P.S. Photos of the two Suntour pillars.

_/Suntour Superbe Pro 27.2/_
https://photos.app.goo.gl/s681qqZwjeAXzQZf7
_/
/__/Suntour Superbe 27.0/_
https://photos.app.goo.gl/KfKLqpgb6SstNQgUA

_*27.2mm*_
Suntour Superbe Pro 27.2mm silver 250mm 20mm offset exc = $85

_*27.0mm*_
Salsa Shaft 27.0mm black 350mm 23mm offset NEW = $95
Suntour Superbe Fluted 27.0mm silver 210mm 20mm offset exc = $30

_*31.6mm*_
Enve Gen2 31.6mm carbon 400mm 25mm offset NEW (clamp disassembled) = $185
RaceFace Next 31.6mm carbon 400mm 0mm offset near-new = $50
Velo-Orange Grand Cru 31.6mm silver 400mm 16mm offset NEW = $45

_*26.6mm*_
Kalloy Road 26.6mm silver 220mm 20mm offset NEW = $25

_*26.4mm*_
Sakae TCO Sport 26.4mm silver 300mm 20mm offset NEW = $25

_*26.2mm*_
Sakae TCO Sport 26.2mm silver 300mm 20mm offset NEW = $25

==

On 1/17/22 10:43 AM, David Hallerman wrote:


Here are 14 seatposts for sale, most either brand new or nearly new. 
Sizes range from 26.2mm to 31.6mm. Offset, aka setback, measures from 
40mm down to 0mm.


Prices include shipping when you cover the Paypal fees. Photos 
available on request, and questions quickly answered. Thanks for looking.


Dave, who remembers that the first bike parts upgrade he bought was a 
seatpost, a Suntour XC Pro seatpost for his first Bridgestone a 1990 MB-2


_*27.2mm*_
Nitto S-84 Lugged cro-mo 27.2mm silver 250mm 40mm offset! near-new = $120
Suntour Superbe Pro 27.2mm silver 250mm 20mm offset exc = $85
Salsa Shaft 27.2mm silver 250mm 23mm offset exc = $60
Velo-Orange Grand Cru Long Setback 27.2mm silver 300mm 30mm offset VG 
= $30

Campagnolo TK* 27.2mm silver 210mm 20mm offset VG = $30
 *Don’t know exactly which model this is, but looks like it’s from 
1980s.


_*27.0mm*_
Salsa Shaft 27.0mm black 350mm 23mm offset NEW = $95
Suntour Superbe Fluted 27.0mm silver 210mm 20mm offset exc = $30

_*26.8mm*_
Ritchey Comp 26.8mm black 400mm 20mm offset near-new = $40

_*31.6mm*_
Enve Gen2 31.6mm carbon 400mm 25mm offset NEW (clamp disassembled) = $185
RaceFace Next 31.6mm carbon 400mm 0mm offset near-new = $50
Velo-Orange Grand Cru 31.6mm silver 400mm 16mm offset NEW = $45

_*26.6mm*_
Kalloy Road 26.6mm silver 220mm 20mm offset NEW = $25

_*26.4mm*_
Sakae TCO Sport 26.4mm silver 300mm 20mm offset NEW = $25

_*26.2mm*_
Sakae TCO Sport 26.2mm silver 300mm 20mm offset NEW = $25

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[RBW] FS :: Seatposts - Enve Nitto Salsa Suntour Velo-Orange more

[David Hallerman]

Here are 14 seatposts for sale, most either brand new or nearly new. 
Sizes range from 26.2mm to 31.6mm. Offset, aka setback, measures from 
40mm down to 0mm.


Prices include shipping when you cover the Paypal fees. Photos available 
on request, and questions quickly answered. Thanks for looking.


Dave, who remembers that the first bike parts upgrade he bought was a 
seatpost, a Suntour XC Pro seatpost for his first Bridgestone a 1990 MB-2


_*27.2mm*_
Nitto S-84 Lugged cro-mo 27.2mm silver 250mm 40mm offset! near-new = $120
Suntour Superbe Pro 27.2mm silver 250mm 20mm offset exc = $85
Salsa Shaft 27.2mm silver 250mm 23mm offset exc = $60
Velo-Orange Grand Cru Long Setback 27.2mm silver 300mm 30mm offset VG = $30
Campagnolo TK* 27.2mm silver 210mm 20mm offset VG = $30
 *Don’t know exactly which model this is, but looks like it’s from 
1980s.


_*27.0mm*_
Salsa Shaft 27.0mm black 350mm 23mm offset NEW = $95
Suntour Superbe Fluted 27.0mm silver 210mm 20mm offset exc = $30

_*26.8mm*_
Ritchey Comp 26.8mm black 400mm 20mm offset near-new = $40

_*31.6mm*_
Enve Gen2 31.6mm carbon 400mm 25mm offset NEW (clamp disassembled) = $185
RaceFace Next 31.6mm carbon 400mm 0mm offset near-new = $50
Velo-Orange Grand Cru 31.6mm silver 400mm 16mm offset NEW = $45

_*26.6mm*_
Kalloy Road 26.6mm silver 220mm 20mm offset NEW = $25

_*26.4mm*_
Sakae TCO Sport 26.4mm silver 300mm 20mm offset NEW = $25

_*26.2mm*_
Sakae TCO Sport 26.2mm silver 300mm 20mm offset NEW = $25

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[RBW] FS: Front Derailleurs double & triple, Shimano Campy FSA Suntour – NEW & used

[David Hallerman]

Hello! Almost all front derailleurs for sale here today are clamp-style, 
and they have official speeds too (which I regularly contravene). All 
the derailleurs are mechanically fine. And most mechanisms are silver, 
unless noted. All prices include shipping for buyers who cover the 
Paypal fee. Photos available on request, and questions quickly answered.


Thanks for reading, and I’ve posted rear derailleurs separately.

Dave, who regularly uses D-A 74XX front derailleurs for his typical 
48/34 and 46/34 compact chainring setups

/
//P.S. Note that all the used front derailleurs were used only for road 
cycling./


_*DOUBLE*_
1.   Shimano Dura-Ace (7400) 28.6 NEW = $125
2.   Shimano Ultegra (6500) 28.6 NEW = $85
3.   Shimano RX-100 (A550) 28.6 NEW (2 available) = $45 ea.
4.   Shimano Sora (3300) 28.6 NEW = $37
5.   Campagnolo Centaur 10-speed 28.6 NEW = $85
6.   Campagnolo Veloce 10-speed black/silver 32.0 NEW = $70
7.   FSA Energy Compact silver/black 31.8/28.6 w/shim NEW (3 available) 
= $50 ea.
8.   FSA Energy Compact silver/black braze-on w/28.6 clamp NEW (2 
available) = $35 ea.

9.   IRD Compact braze-on w/28.6 clamp NEW = $20
10.  Shimano Tiagra (4400) braze-on w/28.6 clamp NEW (mild shopwear) = $15
11.  Shimano Dura-Ace (7403) 28.6 near-new = $65
12.  Shimano Dura-Ace (7410) 28.6 near-new = $65
13.  Shimano Dura-Ace (7700) 28.6 exc. = $50
14.  Shimano Ultegra (6600) 31.8 exc. = $40
15.  Campagnolo Chorus CT 10-speed black/silver 32.0 good = $23
16.  Campagnolo Centaur 10-speed 35.0 good = $19

_*TRIPLE*_
1.   Shimano Dura-Ace (7703) 28.6 NEW = $125
2.   Shimano Dura-Ace (7703) 28.6 near-new = $85
3.   Suntour XC Pro silver/black 28.6 near-new = $55
4.   Suntour XC Comp silver/black 28.6 near-new = $45
5.   Shimano Deore XT (735) silver/black 28.6 good = $35
6.   Suntour XC Pro silver/black 28.6 good = $35
7.   Shimano Dura-Ace (7703) 28.6 fair = $13

/Here’s a quick gloss on my terms of condition://
//* Near-new: clean, super-low miles, no rust, long life ahead//
//* Excellent: just a few more mild scratches, still clean //
//* Very good: a bit more schmutz & wear on cages//
//* Good: not the prettiest, but will still get you home/

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[RBW] FS: Shimano Rear Derailleurs 9-speed NEW & more!

[David Hallerman]

Hello cycling friends. What’s here today are Shimano rear derailleurs, 
mostly 9 speed (many brand new), a few classic Deore XT 7-speed, and one 
magnificent first generation XTR M900 mechanism. All these rear 
derailleurs are traditional, top normal, high normal (aka, NOT Rapid 
Rise). Most are mainly silver, unless noted. And all the derailleurs are 
mechanically fine.


All prices include shipping in for buyers who cover the Paypal fee. 
Photos available on request, and questions quickly answered.


Thanks for looking, and I’ve posted front derailleurs separately.

Dave, who says you can find the official Shimano instructions for 
numbers one two four and six here 
(https://si.shimano.com/pdfs/si/SI-5W00A-002-ENG.pdf) but really the 
info in this PDF applies to the setup basics for all these rear derailleurs

/
//P.S. Note that all the used rear derailleurs were used only for road 
cycling./


1.   Shimano Deore XT (M761) 9-speed NEW (2 available) = $175 ea.
2.   Shimano Deore LX (M581) 9-speed NEW = $140
3.   Shimano Deore LX (T661) 9-speed NEW = $150
4.   Shimano Deore (M531) 9-speed black NEW = $75
5.   Shimano XTR (M952) 9-speed grey near-new = $150
6.   Shimano Deore XT (M761) 9-speed near-new = $115
7.   Shimano Deore XT (M750) 9-speed near-new = $110
8.   Shimano XTR (M900) 8-speed not-quite-near-new = $125
9.   Shimano XTR (M952) 9-speed grey exc. = $120
10.  Shimano Deore XT (M735) 7-speed silver/black exc. (2 available) = 
$80 ea.

11.  Shimano Ultegra (6500) 9-speed exc. = $60
12.  Shimano Dura-Ace (7700) 9-speed VG = $65
13.  Shimano Deore XT (M735) 7-speed silver/black good = $23

/Here’s a quick gloss on my terms of condition://
//* Near-new: clean, super-low miles, no rust, long life ahead//
//* Excellent: just a few more mild scratches, still clean //
//* Very good: a bit more schmutz & wear (esp. pulleys)//
//* Good: not the prettiest, but will still get you home/
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[RBW] Re: FS: Chainrings NEW 110/74 & 130, TA Dura-Ace Sugino more [long]

[David Hallerman]

Updates marked below, and a quick note about the Sugino Alpina Cospea 
chainrings. First some photos of the chainrings: 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/FmZ4PEEGWQktMkod6"]https://photos.app.goo.gl/FmZ4PEEGWQktMkod6


Then, the backstory as to why I have a bunch of these very fine 
chainrings to sell. Around 2010, Ben's Cycle had wonderful Sugino Alpina 
Cospea cranks on closeout. Being Sugino, they're strong and beautiful, 
and yet among the lightest alloy cranks I've ever weighed. So I bought a 
bunch from Ben's Cycle, almost one for every bike, maybe a few extra 
too. I believe they were readily available at Ben's at reasonable prices 
around 2010 because they require an Octalink bottom bracket, Shimano's 
9-speed standard rarely adopted by other companies, and some people just 
don't like Octalink. Sometimes the Alpina Cospea was available in silver 
but more often in black. And sometimes it came with the 48-34 chainring 
combo I tend to use, and sometimes with other combos. When that 
happened, I bought the cranks anyway, and changed the chainrings to the 
48-34s I wanted. These sets of 50-34s and 50-36s are take-offs from 
great sets of cranks, simply because I prefer 48-34.


Dave, who also loves 46-34 combos to make use of old "mountain" cranks 
on bicycles more ridden on roads


On 1/12/22 3:31 PM, David Hallerman wrote:


Hello!

Today’s TK sale continues with chainrings, a big batch. All of these 
chainrings are new, except for the Suntour bits 15-17. I’m selling 
most of the 38 items as sets, triples and doubles, mainly 110/74 BCD 
and several 130 BCD. There’s also a bunch of 74 BCD solo grannies, and 
a few single rings. A few sets were installed and removed, but never 
ridden, never chained. Some chainrings have varying degrees of ramps 
and pins (RP), while some are flat (FL), and are marked with those two 
acronyms, RP or FL.


All prices include shipping when buyers cover Paypal fees. Photos 
available as needed. Questions quickly answered. All offers 
considered, especially for multiple purchases. And if you want any of 
these rings, send me the item number too - will help both of us.


Thanks for looking. Thanks for helping us downsize.

Dave, who notes how the Sugino Alpina Cospea chainrings are as 
functionally wonderful as TA chainrings just a matte black with silver 
teeth rather than the French company’s shiny black with silver teeth


_*Double RP*_
1.   Sugino Alpina Cospea 50/34 black/silver RP (3 sets available) = 
$65 ea.

2.   FSA Pro 48/34 black/silver RP = $50
3.   Sugino Alpina Cospea 50/36 black/silver RP (2 sets available) = 
$65 ea.

4.   FSA Pro 48/36 black/silver RP = $45
5.   FSA Pro 50/36 black/silver RP = $45
6.   Vuelta USA 48/38 bronze/silver RP = $40

_*Triple RP*_
7.   Vuelta SE Plus 46/34/24 black/silver RP = $60
8.   TA Zephyr/Zelito 48/38/28 black/silver RP = $125 *SOLD*
9.   Avitar Werx 46/36/24 black RP = $60
10.  Sugino Supershift Pro 46/36/26 silver RP = $80 *SOLD*

_*Double FL*_
11.   Salsa 50/38 110 BCD silver FL = $30
12.   Sugino/Avitar 52/38 110 BCD silver FL = $25

_*Triple FL*_
13.   Vuelta USA 48/38/26 silver FL = $35 *SOLD*
14.   Sakae Ringyo 50/38/28 silver FL = $30 *SOLD*
15.   Suntour XC Pro PowerRing 46/36/24 dark bronze used/exc. = $30 *SOLD*
16.   Suntour XC Comp PowerRing 46/36/24 dark grey/black used/exc. = $25
17.   Suntour XC Pro PowerRing 46/36/24 dark bronze used/VG = $25

_*Granny Rings 74 BCD FL*_
18.   Avitar XTD 24 silver = $20 *SOLD*
19.   Sakae Platinum 26 silver = $25
20.   Vuelta USA 26 silver = $20
21.   Sakae Ringyo 26 silver = $20 *SOLD*
22.   Sakae Ringyo 26 black = $20
23.   Shimano 26 black = $20
24.   Sakae Ninja stainless 28 silver = $25
25.   QBP Engagement Ring 28 silver = $20
26.   Campagnolo 30 silver = $25 *SOLD*

_*130 BCD RP & FL*_
27.   Shimano Dura-Ace (7700) 53/39 130 BCD silver RP = $85
28.   Shimano Ultegra (6500) 53/39 130 BCD silver RP = $70
29.   Race Face Cadence 53/39 130 BCD silver RP = $75
30.   Salsa 52/38 130 BCD silver FL = $40
31.   Suntour 52/42 130 BCD silver FL = $35
32.   Vuelta USA 52/38 130 BCD silver FL = $35
33.   Sugino 50/44 130 BCD silver FL = $30
34.   Sakae Ringyo 48/38 130 BCD silver FL = $30
_*
*__*Singles FL*_
35.   QBP Engagement Ring 42T 144 BCD silver FL = $25
36.   QBP Engagement Ring 52T 110 BCD silver FL = $25
37.   Sakae Ringyo 50T 110 BCD silver FL = $20
38.   Sugino 52T 130 BCD silver FL = $20

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[RBW] Re: FS: Headsets 1-inch Threaded Chris King, Shimano, Stronglight - NEW & not

[David Hallerman]

Latest update shows 3 sealed cartridge bearing headsets left:

 * Shimano STX grey/black NEW = $65
 * Shimano 105 (5500) silver NEW = $60
 * Shimano Ultegra 600 silver (no crown race) exc. = $22

LMK off-list if any questions. Thanks for looking.

Dave

==

On 1/12/22 5:48 PM, David Hallerman wrote:
Hi – If you need a headset for classic 1-inch threaded steerers, 
you’ve come to the right place. I’ve got 8 headsets for sale, half are 
brand new, the other four in fine condition. And if you need a 
threadless 1-inch headset, you likely know that Chris King makes some 
relatively inexpensive parts to turn the three lightly used CK 
headsets below into more modern units.


All of the headsets:
* are sized for the more common ISO 1-inch standard, not the rarer JIS 
standard.
* have cartridge bearings, except for the Stronglight Delta’s needle 
bearings.
* have stack heights of 37.5mm (CK) or 37.6mm (Shimano); but the 
Delta’s is 40mm.


Prices include shipping for buyers who cover Paypal fees. Photos 
available on request, and questions quickly answered.


Hope you find my downsizing useful.

Dave, who must be either optimistic or lazy because it’s the middle of 
January and he hasn’t yet taken the bike racks off the roof of his 
station wagon

+ + + + + + + +

Stronglight Delta silver NEW = $75
Shimano Deore LX (M563) black NEW = $70
Shimano STX grey/black NEW = $65
Shimano 105 (5500) silver NEW (2 available) = $60 ea.
Chris King 2-Nut sotto voce silver near-new = $95
Chris King 2-Nut no-logo silver not-quite-near-new = $85
Chris King 2-Nut no-logo silver exc. = $70
Shimano Ultegra 600 silver (no crown race) exc. = $22

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[RBW] Re: FS: Headsets 1-inch Threaded Chris King, Shimano, Stronglight - NEW & not

[David Hallerman]

The CK have flown. Still available:

Stronglight Delta silver NEW = $75
Shimano Deore LX (M563) black NEW = $70
Shimano STX grey/black NEW = $65
Shimano 105 (5500) silver NEW (2 available) = $60 ea.
Shimano Ultegra 600 silver (no crown race) exc. = $22

==

On 1/12/22 5:48 PM, David Hallerman wrote:
Hi – If you need a headset for classic 1-inch threaded steerers, 
you’ve come to the right place. I’ve got 8 headsets for sale, half are 
brand new, the other four in fine condition. And if you need a 
threadless 1-inch headset, you likely know that Chris King makes some 
relatively inexpensive parts to turn the three lightly used CK 
headsets below into more modern units.


All of the headsets:
* are sized for the more common ISO 1-inch standard, not the rarer JIS 
standard.
* have cartridge bearings, except for the Stronglight Delta’s needle 
bearings.
* have stack heights of 37.5mm (CK) or 37.6mm (Shimano); but the 
Delta’s is 40mm.


Prices include shipping for buyers who cover Paypal fees. Photos 
available on request, and questions quickly answered.


Hope you find my downsizing useful.

Dave, who must be either optimistic or lazy because it’s the middle of 
January and he hasn’t yet taken the bike racks off the roof of his 
station wagon

+ + + + + + + +

Stronglight Delta silver NEW = $75
Shimano Deore LX (M563) black NEW = $70
Shimano STX grey/black NEW = $65
Shimano 105 (5500) silver NEW (2 available) = $60 ea.
Chris King 2-Nut sotto voce silver near-new = $95
Chris King 2-Nut no-logo silver not-quite-near-new = $85
Chris King 2-Nut no-logo silver exc. = $70
Shimano Ultegra 600 silver (no crown race) exc. = $22

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[RBW] FS: Headsets 1-inch Threaded Chris King, Shimano, Stronglight - NEW & not

[David Hallerman]

Hi – If you need a headset for classic 1-inch threaded steerers, you’ve 
come to the right place. I’ve got 8 headsets for sale, half are brand 
new, the other four in fine condition. And if you need a threadless 
1-inch headset, you likely know that Chris King makes some relatively 
inexpensive parts to turn the three lightly used CK headsets below into 
more modern units.


All of the headsets:
* are sized for the more common ISO 1-inch standard, not the rarer JIS 
standard.
* have cartridge bearings, except for the Stronglight Delta’s needle 
bearings.
* have stack heights of 37.5mm (CK) or 37.6mm (Shimano); but the Delta’s 
is 40mm.


Prices include shipping for buyers who cover Paypal fees. Photos 
available on request, and questions quickly answered.


Hope you find my downsizing useful.

Dave, who must be either optimistic or lazy because it’s the middle of 
January and he hasn’t yet taken the bike racks off the roof of his 
station wagon

+ + + + + + + +

Stronglight Delta silver NEW = $75
Shimano Deore LX (M563) black NEW = $70
Shimano STX grey/black NEW = $65
Shimano 105 (5500) silver NEW (2 available) = $60 ea.
Chris King 2-Nut sotto voce silver near-new = $95
Chris King 2-Nut no-logo silver not-quite-near-new = $85
Chris King 2-Nut no-logo silver exc. = $70
Shimano Ultegra 600 silver (no crown race) exc. = $22

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Chainrings NEW 110/74 & 130, TA Dura-Ace Sugino more [long]

[David Hallerman]

Ah, TK. An old editing acronym for "to come" which works as a 
placeholder. And an assumption on my part, since I posted last month 
about various bike stuff sales TK, to come, like this one for chainrings 
or last week's for cassettes, and I shouldn't assume others remember 
that kind of detail.


Dave, who when he edited computer magazines back in the 1980s echoed a 
popular military TV commercial of the era when he said "Being an editor. 
It's not just a job. It's a character flaw." and regularly got laughs in 
response from his colleagues


On 1/12/22 4:01 PM, Joe Bernard wrote:

What does TK mean?



On Wednesday, January 12, 2022 at 12:31:06 PM UTC-8 David Hallerman wrote:

Hello!

Today’s TK sale continues with chainrings, a big batch. All of
these chainrings are new, except for the Suntour bits 15-17. I’m
selling most of the 38 items as sets, triples and doubles, mainly
110/74 BCD and several 130 BCD. There’s also a bunch of 74 BCD
solo grannies, and a few single rings. A few sets were installed
and removed, but never ridden, never chained. Some chainrings have
varying degrees of ramps and pins (RP), while some are flat (FL),
and are marked with those two acronyms, RP or FL.

All prices include shipping when buyers cover Paypal fees. Photos
available as needed. Questions quickly answered. All offers
considered, especially for multiple purchases. And if you want any
of these rings, send me the item number too - will help both of us.

Thanks for looking. Thanks for helping us downsize.

Dave, who notes how the Sugino Alpina Cospea chainrings are as
functionally wonderful as TA chainrings just a matte black with
silver teeth rather than the French company’s shiny black with
silver teeth

_*Double RP*_
1.   Sugino Alpina Cospea 50/34 black/silver RP (3 sets available)
= $65 ea.
2.   FSA Pro 48/34 black/silver RP = $50
3.   Sugino Alpina Cospea 50/36 black/silver RP (2 sets available)
= $65 ea.
4.   FSA Pro 48/36 black/silver RP = $45
5.   FSA Pro 50/36 black/silver RP = $45
6.   Vuelta USA 48/38 bronze/silver RP = $40

_*Triple RP*_
7.   Vuelta SE Plus 46/34/24 black/silver RP = $60
8.   TA Zephyr/Zelito 48/38/28 black/silver RP = $125
9.   Avitar Werx 46/36/24 black RP = $60
10.  Sugino Supershift Pro 46/36/26 silver RP = $80

_*Double FL*_
11.   Salsa 50/38 110 BCD silver FL = $30
12.   Sugino/Avitar 52/38 110 BCD silver FL = $25

_*Triple FL*_
13.   Vuelta USA 48/38/26 silver FL = $35
14.   Sakae Ringyo 50/38/28 silver FL = $30
15.   Suntour XC Pro PowerRing 46/36/24 dark bronze used/exc. = $30
16.   Suntour XC Comp PowerRing 46/36/24 dark grey/black used/exc.
= $25
17.   Suntour XC Pro PowerRing 46/36/24 dark bronze used/VG = $25

_*Granny Rings 74 BCD FL*_
18.   Avitar XTD 24 silver = $20 SOLD
19.   Sakae Platinum 26 silver = $25
20.   Vuelta USA 26 silver = $20
21.   Sakae Ringyo 26 silver = $20 SOLD
22.   Sakae Ringyo 26 black = $20
23.   Shimano 26 black = $20
24.   Sakae Ninja stainless 28 silver = $25
25.   QBP Engagement Ring 28 silver = $20
26.   Campagnolo 30 silver = $25

_*130 BCD RP & FL*_
27.   Shimano Dura-Ace (7700) 53/39 130 BCD silver RP = $85
28.   Shimano Ultegra (6500) 53/39 130 BCD silver RP = $70
29.   Race Face Cadence 53/39 130 BCD silver RP = $75
30.   Salsa 52/38 130 BCD silver FL = $40
31.   Suntour 52/42 130 BCD silver FL = $35
32.   Vuelta USA 52/38 130 BCD silver FL = $35
33.   Sugino 50/44 130 BCD silver FL = $30
34.   Sakae Ringyo 48/38 130 BCD silver FL = $30
_*
*__*Singles FL*_
35.   QBP Engagement Ring 42T 144 BCD silver FL = $25
36.   QBP Engagement Ring 52T 110 BCD silver FL = $25
37.   Sakae Ringyo 50T 110 BCD silver FL = $20
38.   Sugino 52T 130 BCD silver FL = $20

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[RBW] FS: Chainrings NEW 110/74 & 130, TA Dura-Ace Sugino more [long]

[David Hallerman]

Hello!

Today’s TK sale continues with chainrings, a big batch. All of these 
chainrings are new, except for the Suntour bits 15-17. I’m selling most 
of the 38 items as sets, triples and doubles, mainly 110/74 BCD and 
several 130 BCD. There’s also a bunch of 74 BCD solo grannies, and a few 
single rings. A few sets were installed and removed, but never ridden, 
never chained. Some chainrings have varying degrees of ramps and pins 
(RP), while some are flat (FL), and are marked with those two acronyms, 
RP or FL.


All prices include shipping when buyers cover Paypal fees. Photos 
available as needed. Questions quickly answered. All offers considered, 
especially for multiple purchases. And if you want any of these rings, 
send me the item number too - will help both of us.


Thanks for looking. Thanks for helping us downsize.

Dave, who notes how the Sugino Alpina Cospea chainrings are as 
functionally wonderful as TA chainrings just a matte black with silver 
teeth rather than the French company’s shiny black with silver teeth


_*Double RP*_
1.   Sugino Alpina Cospea 50/34 black/silver RP (3 sets available) = $65 ea.
2.   FSA Pro 48/34 black/silver RP = $50
3.   Sugino Alpina Cospea 50/36 black/silver RP (2 sets available) = $65 ea.
4.   FSA Pro 48/36 black/silver RP = $45
5.   FSA Pro 50/36 black/silver RP = $45
6.   Vuelta USA 48/38 bronze/silver RP = $40

_*Triple RP*_
7.   Vuelta SE Plus 46/34/24 black/silver RP = $60
8.   TA Zephyr/Zelito 48/38/28 black/silver RP = $125
9.   Avitar Werx 46/36/24 black RP = $60
10.  Sugino Supershift Pro 46/36/26 silver RP = $80

_*Double FL*_
11.   Salsa 50/38 110 BCD silver FL = $30
12.   Sugino/Avitar 52/38 110 BCD silver FL = $25

_*Triple FL*_
13.   Vuelta USA 48/38/26 silver FL = $35
14.   Sakae Ringyo 50/38/28 silver FL = $30
15.   Suntour XC Pro PowerRing 46/36/24 dark bronze used/exc. = $30
16.   Suntour XC Comp PowerRing 46/36/24 dark grey/black used/exc. = $25
17.   Suntour XC Pro PowerRing 46/36/24 dark bronze used/VG = $25

_*Granny Rings 74 BCD FL*_
18.   Avitar XTD 24 silver = $20 SOLD
19.   Sakae Platinum 26 silver = $25
20.   Vuelta USA 26 silver = $20
21.   Sakae Ringyo 26 silver = $20 SOLD
22.   Sakae Ringyo 26 black = $20
23.   Shimano 26 black = $20
24.   Sakae Ninja stainless 28 silver = $25
25.   QBP Engagement Ring 28 silver = $20
26.   Campagnolo 30 silver = $25

_*130 BCD RP & FL*_
27.   Shimano Dura-Ace (7700) 53/39 130 BCD silver RP = $85
28.   Shimano Ultegra (6500) 53/39 130 BCD silver RP = $70
29.   Race Face Cadence 53/39 130 BCD silver RP = $75
30.   Salsa 52/38 130 BCD silver FL = $40
31.   Suntour 52/42 130 BCD silver FL = $35
32.   Vuelta USA 52/38 130 BCD silver FL = $35
33.   Sugino 50/44 130 BCD silver FL = $30
34.   Sakae Ringyo 48/38 130 BCD silver FL = $30
_*
*__*Singles FL*_
35.   QBP Engagement Ring 42T 144 BCD silver FL = $25
36.   QBP Engagement Ring 52T 110 BCD silver FL = $25
37.   Sakae Ringyo 50T 110 BCD silver FL = $20
38.   Sugino 52T 130 BCD silver FL = $20

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[RBW] Re: FS #Pedals Shimano MTB SPD New & Not-New

[David Hallerman]

Hi - Here are the Shimano SPD pedals still available.

1.    XTR M-970 light black NEW = $145
2.    M-959 light grey NEW = $225
3.    A-515 road single-sided, grey NEW = $50
8.    XTR M-970 light black not-quite-near-new = $95
10.   M-535 black exc. = $32
11.   M-959 light grey VG = $80
12.   M-747 silver VG = $37

All new pedals come with Shimano SH-51 cleats. All prices here include 
shipping in CONUS for buyers who cover the PayPal fee. Photos available 
on request, and questions quickly answered.


Thanks for looking!

Dave

==

On 1/7/22 6:49 AM, David Hallerman wrote:


Hello folks.

Before we go any further, I’d like to define my condition ratings for 
pedals. Since pedals suffer more cosmetic damage than any other metal 
part on our bikes, a scruffy pedal with silky springs and bearings 
could be near-new and is certainly at least excellent. Please keep 
that thought in mind.


As with most of my sales, all prices here include shipping in CONUS 
for buyers who cover the Paypal fee. Photos available on request, and 
questions quickly answered.


Oh yes, all new pedals come with cleats, the basic Shimano SH-51 
cleats. And all of the pedals listed here take SH-51 cleats, even the 
single-sided SPDs meant for road use.


Thanks for looking!

Dave, /who believes the M-747 pedals (number 12 in the list below) 
were the first truly great mountain SPD pedals from Shimano/


1.    XTR M-970 light black NEW = $145
2.    M-959 light grey NEW = $225
3.    A-515 road single-sided, grey NEW = $50
4.    ME-700 trail style black NEW = $45
5.    M-540 bronze NEW = $60
6.    M-520 black NEW = $40
7.    M-520 silver NEW = $40
8.    XTR M-970 light black not-quite-near-new = $95
9.    A-600 road single-sided, silver exc. = $45
10.   M-535 black exc. = $32
11.   M-959 light grey VG = $80
12.   M-747 silver VG = $37

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[RBW] FS :: Shifters Bar-End, STI, Downtube - NEW

[David Hallerman]

Hi! Not many to sell in this category, but what’s here is prime. As with 
most of my sales, all prices here include shipping in CONUS for buyers 
who cover the Paypal fee or pay some other non-fee way. Photos available 
on request, and questions quickly answered.


Dave
+ + + + + + + +
Hudson Valley NY

*Shimano Ultegra (6600) STI *double 10-speed w/cables & housing, NEW = $275
*Shimano Dura-Ace (7700) downtube* 9-speed w/cables & housing, NEW = $135
*Shimano Dura-Ace bar-end* 8-speed, near-new = $65

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[RBW] FS #Pedals Shimano MTB SPD New & Not-New

[David Hallerman]

Hello folks.

Before we go any further, I’d like to define my condition ratings for 
pedals. Since pedals suffer more cosmetic damage than any other metal 
part on our bikes, a scruffy pedal with silky springs and bearings could 
be near-new and is certainly at least excellent. Please keep that 
thought in mind.


As with most of my sales, all prices here include shipping in CONUS for 
buyers who cover the Paypal fee. Photos available on request, and 
questions quickly answered.


Oh yes, all new pedals come with cleats, the basic Shimano SH-51 cleats. 
And all of the pedals listed here take SH-51 cleats, even the 
single-sided SPDs meant for road use.


Thanks for looking!

Dave, /who believes the M-747 pedals (number 12 in the list below) were 
the first truly great mountain SPD pedals from Shimano/


1.    XTR M-970 light black NEW = $145
2.    M-959 light grey NEW = $225
3.    A-515 road single-sided, grey NEW = $50
4.    ME-700 trail style black NEW = $45
5.    M-540 bronze NEW = $60
6.    M-520 black NEW = $40
7.    M-520 silver NEW = $40
8.    XTR M-970 light black not-quite-near-new = $95
9.    A-600 road single-sided, silver exc. = $45
10.   M-535 black exc. = $32
11.   M-959 light grey VG = $80
12.   M-747 silver VG = $37

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[RBW] Re: FS > 9-Speed Shimano Cassettes, NEW

[David Hallerman]

Cassettes have been very popular, several shipping soon from here in the 
snow morning Hudson Valley. But several still available. These ones:


2.   Deore XT (770) 11x32 (3 available) = $85 ea.
4.   Deore XT (750) 11x32 (2 available) = $70 ea.
5.   Deore LX HG-70 11x32 = $60
7.   Deore LX hybrid 12x32 = $75
8.   Deore XT (750) 12x34 = $85
11.  Dura-Ace (7700) 12x27 = $175
13.  Ultegra (6500) 12x27 near-new = $95
14.  SRAM R8-speed 12x26 = $40

Those prices include shipping. Thank you for looking. Let me know if any 
questions.


Dave

==

On 1/5/22 4:01 PM, David Hallerman wrote:

Hi!

My TK downsizing sale begins with cassettes. Who doesn't use 
cassettes? Okay, you folks who still prefer freewheels.


But otherwise, all the cassettes here are new, except a near-new one 
that has a mere 58 miles usage and was removed only because I sold the 
frameset. And all the cassettes are Shimano 9-speed, except for one 
SRAM 8-speed that fits on Shimano hubs. All prices includes shipping 
in CONUS if the buyer covers the Paypal fee. Photos available on 
request, and questions quickly answered.


Thanks for looking.

Dave, who says the two 12x32 cassettes noted as “hybrid” were created 
by Sheldon Brown

+ + + + + + + +
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==

1.   Shimano XTR (970) 11x32 = $125
2.   Deore XT (770) 11x32 (3 available) = $85 ea.
3.   Deore XT (760) 11x32 (2 available) = $75 ea.
4.   Deore XT (750) 11x32 (2 available) = $70 ea.
5.   Deore LX HG-70 11x32 = $60
6.   Deore XT hybrid 12x32 = $85
7.   Deore LX hybrid 12x32 = $75
8.   Deore XT (750) 12x34 = $85
9.   Shimano XTR (970) 11x34 = $125
10.  Deore XT (770) 11x34 (3 available) = $85 ea.
11.  Dura-Ace (7700) 12x27 = $175
12.  Ultegra (6500) 12x27 = $135
13.  Ultegra (6500) 12x27 near-new = $95
14.  SRAM R8-speed 12x26 = $40

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[RBW] FS :: Chains 9-speed & 8/7-speed – NEW

[David Hallerman]

Hello again. The TK sale continues with chains, the cassette’s boon 
companion. Here’s what’s true about all of these chains:

* totally new (does anyone really sell used chains?)
* 116 links
* comes with connector, pin or link

All prices includes shipping in CONUS if the buyer covers the Paypal 
fee. Photos available on request, and questions quickly answered.


Thanks for looking.

Dave

==
_*
*__*9-SPEED*_
1.   Shimano Dura-Ace 7701/XTR (4 available) = $85 ea.
2.   Shimano Ultegra/Deore XT HG-93 (2 available) = $75 ea.
3.   Shimano 105/Deore LX HG-73 (2 available) = $70 ea.
4.   Shimano Tiagra/Deore HG-53 (6 available) = $60 ea.
5.   SRAM PC-991 (2 available) = $60 ea.
6.   SRAM PC-970 = $50
7.   SRAM PC-951 = $40
8.   KMC Elite SS91S (2 available) = $60 ea.
9.   KMC Elite SS90S = $50
10.  Wippermann 9x1 = $50

_*8/7-SPEED*_
1.   Shimano HG-91 (4 available) = $50 ea.
2.   Shimano HG-70 = $40
3.   SRAM PC-68 = $40
4.   SRAM PC-58 = $35
5.   KMC Elite Z92S = $40
6.   KMC HP70S = $35
7.   Wippermann 808 = $40

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[RBW] FS > 9-Speed Shimano Cassettes, NEW

[David Hallerman]

Hi!

My TK downsizing sale begins with cassettes. Who doesn't use cassettes? 
Okay, you folks who still prefer freewheels.


But otherwise, all the cassettes here are new, except a near-new one 
that has a mere 58 miles usage and was removed only because I sold the 
frameset. And all the cassettes are Shimano 9-speed, except for one SRAM 
8-speed that fits on Shimano hubs. All prices includes shipping in CONUS 
if the buyer covers the Paypal fee. Photos available on request, and 
questions quickly answered.


Thanks for looking.

Dave, who says the two 12x32 cassettes noted as “hybrid” were created by 
Sheldon Brown

+ + + + + + + +
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==

1.   Shimano XTR (970) 11x32 = $125
2.   Deore XT (770) 11x32 (3 available) = $85 ea.
3.   Deore XT (760) 11x32 (2 available) = $75 ea.
4.   Deore XT (750) 11x32 (2 available) = $70 ea.
5.   Deore LX HG-70 11x32 = $60
6.   Deore XT hybrid 12x32 = $85
7.   Deore LX hybrid 12x32 = $75
8.   Deore XT (750) 12x34 = $85
9.   Shimano XTR (970) 11x34 = $125
10.  Deore XT (770) 11x34 (3 available) = $85 ea.
11.  Dura-Ace (7700) 12x27 = $175
12.  Ultegra (6500) 12x27 = $135
13.  Ultegra (6500) 12x27 near-new = $95
14.  SRAM R8-speed 12x26 = $40

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[RBW] For Sale :: TK [long]

[David Hallerman]

Hello!

TK – short for “to come” – is a publishing staple I learned about in my 
computer magazine editing days. As you worked on a piece, you might 
insert “TK” in place of a word, name, phrase, sentence, or paragraph as 
a reminder to indicate you hadn’t forgotten anything, but you just 
hadn’t fleshed it out yet.


So with the holidays here, I do not want to dive into my boxes of bike 
things, take photos and write up descriptions, pack said boxes, and then 
deal with or further burden the busy national shipping system. Instead, 
come the new year, I’ll be looking to sell some of the following 
categories of parts and such, a mix of new and mildly used, but now all 
just TK, to be fleshed out in 2022.


*pedals*: mainly Shimano mt. SPD, new & used
*derailleurs*: mainly Shimano 9-speed mt. & road
*brakes*: cantilevers, sidepulls, levers
*bottom brackets*: all British thread, mainly new
*clothing*: some wool, including new gabardine knickers
*tires*: three pairs 700x35, plus some new road
*cassettes*: mainly Shimano 9-speed, some 8-speed, mainly new
*chains*: mainly Shimano 9-speed, high-end 7/8-speed, all new
*bar tape*: leather and not-leather, many colors, several brands, all new
*tools*: got some more, plus some nice price drops
*chainrings*: 110/74s from TA, Sugino, Vuelta, RaceFace, Salsa, more, 
all new

*headsets*: threaded 1-inch, mainly new
*books*: some classics and other cycling publications I think you’ll enjoy
*forks*: 1-inch and 1-1/8 inch, carbon with metal steerers
*seatposts*: mainly 27.2mm, plus others
*stems*: mainly threadless, some quill, both 26.0 & 31.8 clamps
*bicycles*: about 6 steel and titanium road bikes and framesets from 
Bridgestone, Ibis, Burley, and Litespeed, all sized around 56cm


Please think of this post as a friendly head’s up. Or as the cycling 
stuff equivalent of “save the date.” And if you’re looking for something 
particular in any of those 17 categories, send me a note; it could be 
mutually helpful.


For now, happy solstice season to you all! May your days be well-stocked 
with more light.


Smiles,

Dave, who if he had a tagline in this peer-to-peer world of buying and 
selling bike stuff it would be “Let my overbuying become your bargain” 
which is especially true as he and his cycling wife downsize

+ + + + + + + +
Hudson Valley NY

P.S. We’re just downsizing. We’re still cycling. Even when these sales 
are done, we will still have many pedals, derailleurs, brakes, bottom 
brackets, clothing, tires, cassettes, chains, bar tape, tools, 
chainrings, headsets, forks, seatposts, stems, and bicycles.


P.P.S. If you’ve read this far, thanks! Plus, maybe you can help me. I 
want to buy a Brooks B.17 titanium-rail saddle, antique brown or honey, 
new or near-new. I’ll pay a good price and/or I have a black ti-rail 
B.17 to trade.


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Re: [RBW] chainring installation

[David Hallerman]

Yes, I’ve installed many TA chainrings, and that screw/nut/spacer is to be
used when the crank is a 5-arm spider. The s/n/s goes on the out-facing
side of the big ring to prevent chain drop jamming.

With a 4-arm crank, no need for s/n/s.

On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 12:05 AM Jim S.  wrote:

> Hi, I'm installing a T.A. chainring, and it comes with a small screw, nut,
> and spacer. I'm perplexed. Does anyone know what these are for?
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[RBW] Re: FS :: 50 Chainrings, mainly 110 & 74 BCD

[David Hallerman]

SOLD  -  and thanks!

On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 9:46 AM David Hallerman 
wrote:

> Hello and good day!
>
> Got a proposition for you. A package deal, because it just makes sense. I
> have a box with 50 chainrings. And the entire box is yours for $125 shipped.
>
> In that box you'll find:
>
>- 32 rings with 110 BCD
>- 14 rings with 74 BCD
>- 4 rings with 130 BCD
>
> Most of the chainrings are round, along with two triple sets of Biopace
> rings. Most are silver, some black, and I believe none have ramps or pins.
> All of these chainrings are highly usable. I'm strict on rating condition,
> and even my "very good" chainrings have much life left in them and probably
> would be rated "excellent" after a brief cleaning. And most aren't very
> dirty either.
>
> Here's a PDF with a full listing of the 50 chainring box:
>
> *http://www.inplaceredesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Chainrings-50-INFO.pdf
> <http://www.inplaceredesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Chainrings-50-INFO.pdf>*
>
> I can send photos if you wish, and any questions quickly answered.
>
> Thanks for reading.
>
> Dave
> + + + + + + + +
> Hudson Valley NY
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS :: 50 Chainrings, mainly 110 & 74 BCD

[David Hallerman]

Funny stuff, Eric!

On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 10:17 AM Eric Marth  wrote:

> When Dave makes a for sale post... we know to be ready!
>
> On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 9:47:01 AM UTC-5 David Hallerman wrote:
>
>> Hello and good day!
>>
>> Got a proposition for you. A package deal, because it just makes sense. I
>> have a box with 50 chainrings. And the entire box is yours for $125 shipped.
>>
>> In that box you'll find:
>>
>>- 32 rings with 110 BCD
>>- 14 rings with 74 BCD
>>- 4 rings with 130 BCD
>>
>> Most of the chainrings are round, along with two triple sets of Biopace
>> rings. Most are silver, some black, and I believe none have ramps or pins.
>> All of these chainrings are highly usable. I'm strict on rating condition,
>> and even my "very good" chainrings have much life left in them and probably
>> would be rated "excellent" after a brief cleaning. And most aren't very
>> dirty either.
>>
>> Here's a PDF with a full listing of the 50 chainring box:
>>
>> *http://www.inplaceredesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Chainrings-50-INFO.pdf
>> <http://www.inplaceredesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Chainrings-50-INFO.pdf>*
>>
>> I can send photos if you wish, and any questions quickly answered.
>>
>> Thanks for reading.
>>
>> Dave
>> + + + + + + + +
>> Hudson Valley NY
>>
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[RBW] FS :: 50 Chainrings, mainly 110 & 74 BCD

[David Hallerman]

Hello and good day!

Got a proposition for you. A package deal, because it just makes sense. 
I have a box with 50 chainrings. And the entire box is yours for $125 
shipped.


In that box you'll find:

 * 32 rings with 110 BCD
 * 14 rings with 74 BCD
 * 4 rings with 130 BCD

Most of the chainrings are round, along with two triple sets of Biopace 
rings. Most are silver, some black, and I believe none have ramps or 
pins. All of these chainrings are highly usable. I'm strict on rating 
condition, and even my "very good" chainrings have much life left in 
them and probably would be rated "excellent" after a brief cleaning. And 
most aren't very dirty either.


Here's a PDF with a full listing of the 50 chainring box:

/http://www.inplaceredesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Chainrings-50-INFO.pdf/

I can send photos if you wish, and any questions quickly answered.

Thanks for reading.

Dave
+ + + + + + + +
Hudson Valley NY

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Re: [RBW] Opinions re Roadeo colors

[David Hallerman]

British Racing Green, or a shade lighter, with a complementary off-white
downtube panel.

Classic, and goes nicely with tanwall tires and honey shaded B.17s.

I love both seeing and imagining bicycle paint jobs. Want to make my wife
laugh? See a car color you like, and say to her “Wouldn’t that make a great
downtube panel?”

Dave, *who recently got a bike whose main color is known in the bike/car
paint world as “Vanilla Shake”*

On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 12:25 PM Jim S.  wrote:

> Hi, I recently obtained a used Roadeo. It needs a new paint job. Does
> anyone have opinions on the ideal colors for a Roadeo? Photos are
> encouraged, of course.
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[RBW] Re: FS Quill stems: Salsa P10, Nitto FacePlater, more!

[David Hallerman]

Quick update.

Sold as of 1:30pm (EST): Nitto FacePlater, Nitto Pearl 8.

Thanks!

On 11/18/21 11:32 AM, David Hallerman wrote:


Hi all!

Some wonderful and rare 1" quill stems here, with a mix of 26.0mm and 
25.4mm clamps. And some photos here: 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/4hd6t537VEUzjx5v6


Prices include shipping in CONUS if buyer covers Paypal fees. 
Questions quickly answered.


Smiles,

Dave, who is keeping certain V-O face-plate quill stems that allow for 
31.8 handlebars

+ + + + + + + +
Hudson Valley NY

==

*Silver stems (rest are black)**:* Nitto FacePlater, Velo Orange, 
Ritchey, Profile Designs.
*Steel stems (rest are alloy):* all of the Salsa stems, plus Velo 
Orange, Ritchey, Profile Designs.
*Stem angles* are up or neutral except for the Nitto Pearl group, 
marked D for down.

*Stems marked* with asterisks (*), find backstories below.

* Salsa P10 (26.0) reach/100mm angle/47° quill/140mm = $260 near-new
* Nitto Fillet FacePlater (25.4) reach/100mm angle/10° quill/225mm = 
$130 NEW

Salsa Road (26.0) reach/90mm angle/0° quill/125mm = $85 near-new
Salsa Road (26.0) reach/120mm angle/0° quill/125mm = $75 excellent
* Salsa SUL Road (26.0) reach/100mm angle/0° quill/145mm = $95 near-new
Velo Orange Quill (26.0) reach/90mm angle/17° quill/180mm = $42 NEW
* Specialized RockCombo (25.4) reach/130mm angle/25° quill/125mm = $50 
very good

* Nitto Pearl 8 (26.0) reach/80-90mm angle/17°D quill/145mm = $65 NEW
* Nitto Pearl 10 (26.0) reach/100-110mm angle/17°D quill/145mm = $65 NEW
* Nitto Pearl 10 (26.0) reach/100-110mm angle/17°D quill/145mm = $45 
excellent

Ritchey HL Steel (26.0) reach/110mm angle/5° quill/120mm = $40 excellent
* Profile Designs Steel (26.0) reach/110mm angle/5° quill/125mm = $45 
near-new


_*Backstories*_
* Salsa P10 = Rare stem, impeccable condition. Original owner here, 
and finally used it with my old BStone MB-2, but shortly after the 
Nitto FacePlater came out giving me more handlebar choices so I 
removed this P10 for now.
* Nitto FacePlater = I kept the larger clamp size, and should let this 
one go now.
* Salsa SUL Road = Again original owner, and when Salsa did a recall 
of this stem several years ago, I found this and another one I had 
were NOT listed for recall; so this one is a cool face plater.
* Specialized RockCombo = I bought my first bike online before the 
World Wide Web was even invented, and it was a RockCombo; no longer 
have the bike, but here's its stem awaiting your cool drop bar project.
* Nitto Pearl 8/10 = As most here likely know, but in case not, Nitto 
Pearl stems run longer than their name-designated sizes; hence marked 
reach and across-the-top reach both listed.
* Profile Designs = Again original owner, and I removed the stem's 
decal with some polishing needed after.


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[RBW] FS Quill stems: Salsa P10, Nitto FacePlater, more!

[David Hallerman]

Hi all!

Some wonderful and rare 1" quill stems here, with a mix of 26.0mm and 
25.4mm clamps. And some photos here: 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/4hd6t537VEUzjx5v6


Prices include shipping in CONUS if buyer covers Paypal fees. Questions 
quickly answered.


Smiles,

Dave, who is keeping certain V-O face-plate quill stems that allow for 
31.8 handlebars

+ + + + + + + +
Hudson Valley NY

==

*Silver stems (rest are black)**:* Nitto FacePlater, Velo Orange, 
Ritchey, Profile Designs.
*Steel stems (rest are alloy):* all of the Salsa stems, plus Velo 
Orange, Ritchey, Profile Designs.
*Stem angles* are up or neutral except for the Nitto Pearl group, marked 
D for down.

*Stems marked* with asterisks (*), find backstories below.

* Salsa P10 (26.0) reach/100mm angle/47° quill/140mm = $260 near-new
* Nitto Fillet FacePlater (25.4) reach/100mm angle/10° quill/225mm = 
$130 NEW

Salsa Road (26.0) reach/90mm angle/0° quill/125mm = $85 near-new
Salsa Road (26.0) reach/120mm angle/0° quill/125mm = $75 excellent
* Salsa SUL Road (26.0) reach/100mm angle/0° quill/145mm = $95 near-new
Velo Orange Quill (26.0) reach/90mm angle/17° quill/180mm = $42 NEW
* Specialized RockCombo (25.4) reach/130mm angle/25° quill/125mm = $50 
very good

* Nitto Pearl 8 (26.0) reach/80-90mm angle/17°D quill/145mm = $65 NEW
* Nitto Pearl 10 (26.0) reach/100-110mm angle/17°D quill/145mm = $65 NEW
* Nitto Pearl 10 (26.0) reach/100-110mm angle/17°D quill/145mm = $45 
excellent

Ritchey HL Steel (26.0) reach/110mm angle/5° quill/120mm = $40 excellent
* Profile Designs Steel (26.0) reach/110mm angle/5° quill/125mm = $45 
near-new


_*Backstories*_
* Salsa P10 = Rare stem, impeccable condition. Original owner here, and 
finally used it with my old BStone MB-2, but shortly after the Nitto 
FacePlater came out giving me more handlebar choices so I removed this 
P10 for now.
* Nitto FacePlater = I kept the larger clamp size, and should let this 
one go now.
* Salsa SUL Road = Again original owner, and when Salsa did a recall of 
this stem several years ago, I found this and another one I had were NOT 
listed for recall; so this one is a cool face plater.
* Specialized RockCombo = I bought my first bike online before the World 
Wide Web was even invented, and it was a RockCombo; no longer have the 
bike, but here's its stem awaiting your cool drop bar project.
* Nitto Pearl 8/10 = As most here likely know, but in case not, Nitto 
Pearl stems run longer than their name-designated sizes; hence marked 
reach and across-the-top reach both listed.
* Profile Designs = Again original owner, and I removed the stem's decal 
with some polishing needed after.


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[RBW] FS :: Bicycle Guide magazine, over 65 copies

[David Hallerman]

Hello!

Back in the late 1980s and into the 1990s, everyone knew the best 
cycling magazine was *Bicycle Guide*. What made it sing? Smart writing 
along with no-BS reviews of bikes (f’rinstance, it’s where I got turned 
on to the RB-1 and Bridgestone). This is bicycle history, written as it 
happened. Great info on old bikes. Classic magazines written by other 
cycling lovers.


All of the magazines here are in excellent condition, many with my 
subscription label still attached. Includes copies of Bicycle Guide’s 
successor magazine, variously titled “Petersen’s Bicycle Guide” or 
“Bicyclist” for a total of 69 magazines.


AND THERE’S MORE…

Several annual buyer’s guides – perfect overviews – are part of this 
package deal. They include Bicycle Guide’s Buyer’s Guide for 1990 
through 1994, Mountain & City Biking for 1991, Sport Cycling Buyer’s 
Guide for 1989, and Bicycling magazine’s annual buyer’s guide for 1980!!!


I’m looking for $275, which includes Priority Mail shipping in the CONUS 
if the buyer cover the Paypal fee. And questions quickly answered.


Dave, who says with the buyer’s guides the buyer of this group will 
receive 76 magazines

+ + + + +
Hudson Valley NY

_*Bicycle Guide Issues*_
1989 = 3 copies (/that’s when I got back into cycling/)
1990 = 9 (/all/)
1991 = 8
1992 = 9 (/all/)
1993 = 10 (/all/)
1994 = 3 (/Petersen’s Bicycle Guide/)
1995 = 4
1996 = 10 (/all/)
1997 = 7
1998 = 6
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[RBW] Re: FS :: Seatposts Most NEW - Nitto Shimano Salsa Suntour Enve Easton

[David Hallerman]

Good morning, and here's what's still available among the seatposts for 
sale. Prices include shipping when the buyer covers the Paypal fees. 
Thanks for looking!


_*27.2mm*_
3. Shimano XTR (M910) 27.2mm silver 270mm = $195 NEW
_*
*__*26.8mm*_
8. Ritchey Comp 26.8mm black 400mm = $40 excellent
_*
*__*31.6mm*_
10. RaceFace Next 31.6mm carbon 400mm 0mm offset = $55 excellent
11. Enve Gen2 31.6mm carbon 400mm 25mm offset = $185 NEW (clamp 
disassembled)

12. Velo-Orange Grand Cru 31.6mm silver 400mm 16mm offset = $45 NEW

_*27.0mm*_
14. Salsa Shaft 27.0mm black 350mm = $95 NEW

On 11/9/21 10:07 AM, David Hallerman wrote:


Three have sold.

_*27.2mm*_
*SOLD* 1. Suntour XC Pro 27.2mm silver/grey 300mm = $125 NEW
*SOLD* 2. Shimano Dura-Ace (7410) 27.2mm silver 270mm = $150 NEW
3. Shimano XTR (M910) 27.2mm silver 270mm = $195 NEW
*SOLD* Easton EA90 27.2mm black 350mm 20mm offset = $75 NEW
*SOLD* Velo-Orange Grand Cru 27.2mm silver 300mm 30mm offset = $75 NEW

_*26.8mm*_
*SOLD* Nitto S83 26.8mm black 300mm 20mm offset = $125 NEW
*SOLD* 7. Shimano Dura-Ace (7410) 26.8mm silver 270mm = $150 excellent
8. Ritchey Comp 26.8mm black 400mm = $40 excellent
*SOLD?* Salsa Shaft 26.8mm silver 250mm = $45 good

_*31.6mm*_
10. RaceFace Next 31.6mm carbon 400mm 0mm offset = $55 excellent
11. Enve Gen2 31.6mm carbon 400mm 25mm offset = $185 NEW (clamp 
disassembled)

12. Velo-Orange Grand Cru 31.6mm silver 400mm 16mm offset = $45 NEW

_*27.0mm*_
*SOLD* Suntour XC Pro 27.0mm silver/grey 300mm = $75 near-new
14. Salsa Shaft 27.0mm black 350mm = $95 NEW

==

On 11/9/21 8:29 AM, David Hallerman wrote:


Hello and good morning -

Here are 14 seatposts for sale, most either brand new or nearly new. 
Sizes range from 26.8mm to 31.6mm Note that I do not have specified 
offset/setback for the older seatposts, but the Shimano/Salsa/Suntour 
are offset by about 20-25mm.


Prices include shipping in CONUS if buyer covers the Paypal fees. 
Photos available on request.


Dave, who notes that the super rare XTR M910 seatpost is simply the 
classic Dura-Ace 7410 seatpost but with a longer shaft and a 
different decal


Hudson Valley NY

P.S. The heads on both the Suntour and Salsa posts are among the best 
ever at making it easy and accurate to adjust saddle angle.


_*27.2mm*_
1. Suntour XC Pro 27.2mm silver/grey 300mm = $125 NEW
2. Shimano Dura-Ace (7410) 27.2mm silver 270mm = $150 NEW
3. Shimano XTR (M910) 27.2mm silver 270mm = $195 NEW
4. Easton EA90 27.2mm black 350mm 20mm offset = $75 NEW
5. Velo-Orange Grand Cru 27.2mm silver 300mm 30mm offset = $75 NEW

_*26.8mm*_
6. Nitto S83 26.8mm black 300mm 20mm offset = $125 NEW
7. Shimano Dura-Ace (7410) 26.8mm silver 270mm = $150 excellent
8. Ritchey Comp 26.8mm black 400mm = $40 excellent
9. Salsa Shaft 26.8mm silver 250mm = $45 good

_*31.6mm*_
10. RaceFace Next 31.6mm carbon 400mm 0mm offset = $55 excellent
11. Enve Gen2 31.6mm carbon 400mm 25mm offset = $185 NEW (clamp 
disassembled)

12. Velo-Orange Grand Cru 31.6mm silver 400mm 16mm offset = $45 NEW

_*27.0mm*_
13. Suntour XC Pro 27.0mm silver/grey 300mm = $75 near-new
14. Salsa Shaft 27.0mm black 350mm = $95 NEW

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[RBW] Re: FS :: Seatposts Most NEW - Nitto Shimano Salsa Suntour Enve Easton

[David Hallerman]

Three have sold.

_*27.2mm*_
*SOLD* 1. Suntour XC Pro 27.2mm silver/grey 300mm = $125 NEW
*SOLD* 2. Shimano Dura-Ace (7410) 27.2mm silver 270mm = $150 NEW
3. Shimano XTR (M910) 27.2mm silver 270mm = $195 NEW
4. Easton EA90 27.2mm black 350mm 20mm offset = $75 NEW
5. Velo-Orange Grand Cru 27.2mm silver 300mm 30mm offset = $75 NEW

_*26.8mm*_
6. Nitto S83 26.8mm black 300mm 20mm offset = $125 NEW
*SOLD* 7. Shimano Dura-Ace (7410) 26.8mm silver 270mm = $150 excellent
8. Ritchey Comp 26.8mm black 400mm = $40 excellent
9. Salsa Shaft 26.8mm silver 250mm = $45 good

_*31.6mm*_
10. RaceFace Next 31.6mm carbon 400mm 0mm offset = $55 excellent
11. Enve Gen2 31.6mm carbon 400mm 25mm offset = $185 NEW (clamp 
disassembled)

12. Velo-Orange Grand Cru 31.6mm silver 400mm 16mm offset = $45 NEW

_*27.0mm*_
13. Suntour XC Pro 27.0mm silver/grey 300mm = $75 near-new
14. Salsa Shaft 27.0mm black 350mm = $95 NEW

==

On 11/9/21 8:29 AM, David Hallerman wrote:


Hello and good morning -

Here are 14 seatposts for sale, most either brand new or nearly new. 
Sizes range from 26.8mm to 31.6mm Note that I do not have specified 
offset/setback for the older seatposts, but the Shimano/Salsa/Suntour 
are offset by about 20-25mm.


Prices include shipping in CONUS if buyer covers the Paypal fees. 
Photos available on request.


Dave, who notes that the super rare XTR M910 seatpost is simply the 
classic Dura-Ace 7410 seatpost but with a longer shaft and a different 
decal


Hudson Valley NY

P.S. The heads on both the Suntour and Salsa posts are among the best 
ever at making it easy and accurate to adjust saddle angle.


_*27.2mm*_
1. Suntour XC Pro 27.2mm silver/grey 300mm = $125 NEW
2. Shimano Dura-Ace (7410) 27.2mm silver 270mm = $150 NEW
3. Shimano XTR (M910) 27.2mm silver 270mm = $195 NEW
4. Easton EA90 27.2mm black 350mm 20mm offset = $75 NEW
5. Velo-Orange Grand Cru 27.2mm silver 300mm 30mm offset = $75 NEW

_*26.8mm*_
6. Nitto S83 26.8mm black 300mm 20mm offset = $125 NEW
7. Shimano Dura-Ace (7410) 26.8mm silver 270mm = $150 excellent
8. Ritchey Comp 26.8mm black 400mm = $40 excellent
9. Salsa Shaft 26.8mm silver 250mm = $45 good

_*31.6mm*_
10. RaceFace Next 31.6mm carbon 400mm 0mm offset = $55 excellent
11. Enve Gen2 31.6mm carbon 400mm 25mm offset = $185 NEW (clamp 
disassembled)

12. Velo-Orange Grand Cru 31.6mm silver 400mm 16mm offset = $45 NEW

_*27.0mm*_
13. Suntour XC Pro 27.0mm silver/grey 300mm = $75 near-new
14. Salsa Shaft 27.0mm black 350mm = $95 NEW

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[RBW] FS :: Seatposts Most NEW - Nitto Shimano Salsa Suntour Enve Easton

[David Hallerman]

Hello and good morning -

Here are 14 seatposts for sale, most either brand new or nearly new. 
Sizes range from 26.8mm to 31.6mm Note that I do not have specified 
offset/setback for the older seatposts, but the Shimano/Salsa/Suntour 
are offset by about 20-25mm.


Prices include shipping in CONUS if buyer covers the Paypal fees. Photos 
available on request.


Dave, who notes that the super rare XTR M910 seatpost is simply the 
classic Dura-Ace 7410 seatpost but with a longer shaft and a different decal


Hudson Valley NY

P.S. The heads on both the Suntour and Salsa posts are among the best 
ever at making it easy and accurate to adjust saddle angle.


_*27.2mm*_
1. Suntour XC Pro 27.2mm silver/grey 300mm = $125 NEW
2. Shimano Dura-Ace (7410) 27.2mm silver 270mm = $150 NEW
3. Shimano XTR (M910) 27.2mm silver 270mm = $195 NEW
4. Easton EA90 27.2mm black 350mm 20mm offset = $75 NEW
5. Velo-Orange Grand Cru 27.2mm silver 300mm 30mm offset = $75 NEW

_*26.8mm*_
6. Nitto S83 26.8mm black 300mm 20mm offset = $125 NEW
7. Shimano Dura-Ace (7410) 26.8mm silver 270mm = $150 excellent
8. Ritchey Comp 26.8mm black 400mm = $40 excellent
9. Salsa Shaft 26.8mm silver 250mm = $45 good

_*31.6mm*_
10. RaceFace Next 31.6mm carbon 400mm 0mm offset = $55 excellent
11. Enve Gen2 31.6mm carbon 400mm 25mm offset = $185 NEW (clamp 
disassembled)

12. Velo-Orange Grand Cru 31.6mm silver 400mm 16mm offset = $45 NEW

_*27.0mm*_
13. Suntour XC Pro 27.0mm silver/grey 300mm = $75 near-new
14. Salsa Shaft 27.0mm black 350mm = $95 NEW

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[RBW] Re: FS :: Nitto Drop Handlebars mainly NEW

[David Hallerman]

Hi,

Several of the Nitto handlebars have sold (and should ship tomorrow). 
Here's what's still available. Prices include shipping in conus if you 
cover the Paypal fee.


Dave, /who notes that his "very good" condition is very strict and 
others might readily call it "excellent"/


DG = double-groove
SG = single-groove
Width/Reach/Drop (center-to-center)

Nitto *M190* Euro80 – 42/80/138 silver DG 26.0 – NEW  $65
Nitto *Model 175* Deep Drop – 42 silver 26.0 – Excellent $33
Nitto *RM-013* Dirt Drop – 42/48 drops/ends silver 26.0 – Very good  $38
Nitto *Grand Raundoneur* - 36/42 drops/ends silver 25.4 – NEW  $47
Nitto Classic *B115* – 45/115/145 silver 25.4 – NEW  $38
Nitto Classic *B115* – 42/115/145 silver 25.4 – NEW  $36

==

On 10/22/21 11:06 AM, David Hallerman wrote:


Hello!

A bunch of Nitto handlebars for sale today, almost all brand new or 
near new. Most are 26.0mm, with some 25.4mm. All prices include 
shipping in CONUS (and that’s not inexpensive for box sizes that can 
hold a handlebar) if you cover the Paypal fee.


All questions quickly answered. No photos today, but if you need, just 
ask.


Dave, who once again is reminded of Nitto's unique place in the 
bicycle world

+ + + + + + + +
Hudson Valley NY

*DG = double-groove**
**SG = single-groove**
**Width/Reach/Drop (center-to-center)*

 1. Nitto M151 – 44/76/128 silver SG 26.0 – Near new  $42
 2. Nitto M179 STI – 42/80/131 silver DG 26.0 – NEW  $77
 3. Nitto M190 Euro80 – 42/80/138 silver DG 26.0 – NEW  $65
 4. Nitto Model 175 Deep Drop – 42 silver 26.0 – Excellent  $33
 5. Nitto Model 185 Shallow Drop – 42/80/130 silver 26.0 - NEW $40
 6. Nitto RM-013 Dirt Drop – 46/52 drops/ends silver 26.0 – Near new  $52
 7. Nitto RM-013 Dirt Drop – 42/48 drops/ends silver 26.0 – Excellent  $44
 8. Nitto RM-013 Dirt Drop – 42/48 drops/ends silver 26.0 – Very good  $38
 9. Nitto Grand Raundoneur - 36/42 drops/ends silver 25.4 – NEW  $47
10. Nitto Classic B115 – 45/115/145 silver 25.4 – NEW  $38
11. Nitto Classic B115 – 42/115/145 silver 25.4 – NEW  $36




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[RBW] FS :: Nitto Drop Handlebars mainly NEW

[David Hallerman]

Hello!

A bunch of Nitto handlebars for sale today, almost all brand new or near 
new. Most are 26.0mm, with some 25.4mm. All prices include shipping in 
CONUS (and that’s not inexpensive for box sizes that can hold a 
handlebar) if you cover the Paypal fee.


All questions quickly answered. No photos today, but if you need, just ask.

Dave, who once again is reminded of Nitto's unique place in the bicycle 
world

+ + + + + + + +
Hudson Valley NY

*DG = double-groove**
**SG = single-groove**
**Width/Reach/Drop (center-to-center)*

1. Nitto M151 – 44/76/128 silver SG 26.0 – Near new  $42
2. Nitto M179 STI – 42/80/131 silver DG 26.0 – NEW  $77
3. Nitto M190 Euro80 – 42/80/138 silver DG 26.0 – NEW  $65
4. Nitto Model 175 Deep Drop – 42 silver 26.0 – Excellent  $33
5. Nitto Model 185 Shallow Drop – 42/80/130 silver 26.0 - NEW $40
6. Nitto RM-013 Dirt Drop – 46/52 drops/ends silver 26.0 – Near new  $52
7. Nitto RM-013 Dirt Drop – 42/48 drops/ends silver 26.0 – Excellent  $44
8. Nitto RM-013 Dirt Drop – 42/48 drops/ends silver 26.0 – Very good  $38
9. Nitto Grand Raundoneur - 36/42 drops/ends silver 25.4 – NEW  $47
10. Nitto Classic B115 – 45/115/145 silver 25.4 – NEW  $38
11. Nitto Classic B115 – 42/115/145 silver 25.4 – NEW  $36

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Re: [RBW] Re: 26.8mm seat post diameter??

[David Hallerman]

My personal 26.8mm seatpost datapoints have mainly been with relatively
high-end bikes such as an early-90s Slim Chance with one of those skinny
old top tubes; a fillet-brazed Ritchey road bike likely made by the man
himself in the 1990s (sorry I sold that one); and my wife’s
turn-of-the-century Indy Fab Crown Jewel.

Now 27.4mm seatposts, like Waterford used to make, were the devil incarnate
to find. I only remember American Classic for that size.

Dave, *who when he sees a car with a 26.2 sticker on the rear tends to
think “Now that’s a rare seatpost size”*

On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 3:43 PM Paul Brodek  wrote:

> IME back in the day 27.2mm was more common on higher-end frames than
> 26.8mm, while 26.8mm was more common on mid-level frames. And 26.8mm was
> rarely seen on top-level frames. But my back in the day selling new bikes
> started in 1980, with pre-1980 experience being most repair/service. Maybe
> Saturday Mark goes back further.
>
> Paul Brodek
> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>
> On Tuesday, October 19, 2021 at 1:28:12 PM UTC-4 Saturday Mark wrote:
>
>> 26.8 was just as common as 27.2 back in the 70's and 80's, prior to the
>> now more . Riv has done 26.8 on a bunch of the step throughs since way back
>> when.
>>
>> With that said, 26.8 is probably in short supply right now due to
>> pandemic, but...
>>
>> Nitto makes in crystal fellow and s83
>> Thomson makes 26.8
>> Kalloy Uno as well as their Crystal Fellow copy
>> + a bunch of private label (Dimension, Sunlite, Origin8... etc)
>>
>> On Monday, October 18, 2021 at 8:01:38 PM UTC-6 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe someone can answer this, why in the heck did Rivendell start
>>> making the seat tube inside diameter 26.8mm on the new bikes? I believe
>>> hearing something about seat tube wall thickness. Don't get me wrong, I
>>> think the new Geos make for a better ride, but it's way easier to find
>>> posts in 27.2mm all day long.
>>>
>>> Rivendell has the Nitto S83 in that diameter but it's a whopping 300 mm
>>> length 50 mm more than I need and also a whopping $128 before tax and
>>> shipping.
>>>
>>> Rant over n out.
>>>
>>> Hugh n LA
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Subtle, insidious seatpost slippage on my Clem H driving me crazy

[David Hallerman]

Could try carbon fiber paste instead of grease on seatpost, in seat tube.
If you do that, be sure to clean out old grease first.

Another thought, if you have access to a knurling tool; perhaps your shop
has one. That would raise a section of post that’s inside the frame.

- Dave



On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 3:59 PM Eric Daume  wrote:

> On my Gunnars that all featured slipping seat posts, I eventually used a
> Coke can shim to fix the issue.
>
> Eric
>
> On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 3:40 PM Alex K  wrote:
>
>> Anybody else have issues with their seat post slipping on their Clem H or
>> any other Rivs?  This is driving me crazy.  I am infatuated with this
>> bike.  Favorite ride of all time.  I have a perfect 30 mile SF-Marin
>> Headlands-SF loop that keeps me sane.What is driving me insane however
>> is that my seat post slips down about 1-1.5 inches every time I ride this
>> ride, which involves quite a lot of fire trail.  I have cleaned the inside
>> of the seat tube, I have applied friction grease, I changed the seat bolt
>> and greased and regressed it.  I have heard that maybe a Coke can might
>> work as a shim, but I'd rather resolve the issue without hodging and
>> podging.  Any thoughts?  Advice?  Commiseration?  Thanks all.  I've ridden
>> on a Kalloy and a Thomson seat post, and it doesn't matter which seat post
>> I use, there is slippage.
>> Alex
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Re: [RBW] Any former paper boys (or girls) on this list?

[David Hallerman]

Yup Patrick, you’ve got it. I started as a paper boy in 1963 when I turned
12, the legal age for that kind of work in NYC at that time. So got my
shiny gold English Racer in the spring of 1964.

I remember riding it on this wonderfully “hidden” road through park woods.
That was actually the Vanderbilt Parkway, a private early 20th century road
abandoned by the plutocrats who built it and back in my early 10-speed days
truly off-the-grid. Now it’s a multiuser trail that lots of people use.

Dave, who notes that hidden roads trails and paths in big cities are very
cool

On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 1:33 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Dave: What year was this of paper delivery and new "English racer"? I
> remember "English racers" circa 1962 or 1963 because a friend's father had
> what must have been a Raleigh Sport, which to me at 7 or 8 was something
> unfathomably adult and exotic and far away; not even quite a bicycle in the
> regular meaning of the word, when he and my friend and I took little rides
> around our neighborhood.
>
> My friend's father must have been an USA or USAAF serviceman who spent
> time in England (he also came back to Prince George's County, MD with an
> English wife).
>
> On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 11:28 AM David Hallerman 
> wrote:
>
>> Paper boy? That was me in NYC, the borough of Queens, delivering the
>> long-dead “New York World-Telegram & Sun” to about 35 homes. This was a
>> semi-suburban section of Queens, and most of my customers lived in
>> single-family, or at least ground entrance, homes. And the afternoon paper
>> had no Sunday edition, so that was my day off.
>>
>>
>> I cycled to each delivery on my black Rudge 3-speed and, after a time, on
>> some anonymous single-speed with high handlebars that made it easy to tie
>> on my white canvas paper bag. (Seems I always had multiple bikes.)
>>
>>
>> I never threw the paper towards anyone’s front door. Instead, I walked up
>> and put each day’s paper inside the customers’ screen doors or any other
>> places they asked the paper to be left in. My artisanal style of paper
>> delivery increased the size of my tips.
>>
>>
>> Best bike memory associated with paper delivery: The gift my friends gave
>> me for my bar-mitzvah was money to buy my first 10-speed bike, $55 back
>> then. On the day I planned to buy the bike, I zoomed through my paper route
>> and headed to the bike shop about 3 miles away on my blue single-speed.
>>
>>
>> I knew the bike I wanted, a gold English Racer (another name we used back
>> then for 10-speed bikes), but I cannot remember the brand. At the shop, I
>> was ready to nail down my purchase, but the owner said “Don’t you think
>> your father should be here with you?”
>>
>>
>> My reply: “Why? I know more about it than he does.”
>>
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> + + + + + + + +
>>
>> Hudson Valley NY
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 12:11 PM Patrick Moore 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dave Moulton has an interesting little post on his blog today about
>>> the disappearance of the paper boy. I don't recall ever having seen
>>> one except (always!) in movies, but then we lived when I was a boy in
>>> the US in what was still a semi rural area, and the rest of the time
>>> overseas. All the newspaper deliverers I've seen have been middle aged
>>> people in cars.
>>>
>>> http://davesbikeblog.squarespace.com/blog/2021/9/6/the-newspaper-boy.html
>>>
>>> I do recall working followup for the 1990 census on a bike! (I did
>>> similar work for the 1980 census in my car in a very rural part of NW
>>> Georgia; now that was interesting -- like Deliverance except that the
>>> people were very nice, even though I was -- to them -- a Yankee
>>> Oriental who was asking way too many personal questions.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> ---
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>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
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Re: [RBW] Any former paper boys (or girls) on this list?

[David Hallerman]

Paper boy? That was me in NYC, the borough of Queens, delivering the
long-dead “New York World-Telegram & Sun” to about 35 homes. This was a
semi-suburban section of Queens, and most of my customers lived in
single-family, or at least ground entrance, homes. And the afternoon paper
had no Sunday edition, so that was my day off.


I cycled to each delivery on my black Rudge 3-speed and, after a time, on
some anonymous single-speed with high handlebars that made it easy to tie
on my white canvas paper bag. (Seems I always had multiple bikes.)


I never threw the paper towards anyone’s front door. Instead, I walked up
and put each day’s paper inside the customers’ screen doors or any other
places they asked the paper to be left in. My artisanal style of paper
delivery increased the size of my tips.


Best bike memory associated with paper delivery: The gift my friends gave
me for my bar-mitzvah was money to buy my first 10-speed bike, $55 back
then. On the day I planned to buy the bike, I zoomed through my paper route
and headed to the bike shop about 3 miles away on my blue single-speed.


I knew the bike I wanted, a gold English Racer (another name we used back
then for 10-speed bikes), but I cannot remember the brand. At the shop, I
was ready to nail down my purchase, but the owner said “Don’t you think
your father should be here with you?”


My reply: “Why? I know more about it than he does.”


Dave

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Hudson Valley NY

On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 12:11 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Dave Moulton has an interesting little post on his blog today about
> the disappearance of the paper boy. I don't recall ever having seen
> one except (always!) in movies, but then we lived when I was a boy in
> the US in what was still a semi rural area, and the rest of the time
> overseas. All the newspaper deliverers I've seen have been middle aged
> people in cars.
>
> http://davesbikeblog.squarespace.com/blog/2021/9/6/the-newspaper-boy.html
>
> I do recall working followup for the 1990 census on a bike! (I did
> similar work for the 1980 census in my car in a very rural part of NW
> Georgia; now that was interesting -- like Deliverance except that the
> people were very nice, even though I was -- to them -- a Yankee
> Oriental who was asking way too many personal questions.)
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: i pinched seat tube putting on problem solvers brand front derailleur clamp

[David Hallerman]

Actually, the instructions for my Campy FD clearly say to “fasten the
tightening bolt to the frame, torquing to the following values…”

The phrase “to following values” describes a target, not a suggested max.
Now maybe other component companies say their Nm number is the max for that
part, but until then, it’s more useful to rely on the company that made the
part than other sources.

Dave, who thinks some torque numbers are conservative because the
manufacturer doesn’t know if you’re using more fragile carbon or more
robust steel

On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 11:20 AM Thomas Lawn  wrote:

> This is maybe the biggest downside about torque specs is that it's easy to
> lose the natural "hey, I wonder if this is tight enough?" instinct and go
> straight to "well it says put it at 9Nm so *crack*!"
>
> Firstly, the published torque for clamps is not a "target number" to hit,
> but actually a maximum. The object being clamped will also have a maximum
> value, and for a thin-walled butted seat tube, it may well be less than
> 4Nm. For front derailleurs, just tighten until it gets snug and give it
> another 1/4-1/2 turn. It should be completely immobile and very easy to
> tighten down using the short end of an allen key or p-handle wrench. If you
> have to use a long arm to torque a derailleur band, it's likely that
> something bad is happening. Don't lubricate the clamp because that will
> require more clamping force to resist moving, but you can grease the
> threads of the bolt.
>
> The good news is that there are millions of steel bikes out there with
> slight dimples on their seat tube from front derailleur clamps and they're
> completely fine. I have a frame with *two* dimples because the Incredible
> Hulk installed the derailleur too high or too low the first time. It's also
> nearly impossible to detect those dimples unless you're specifically
> looking and feeling for them, so you'll likely forget they're even there in
> a year or two.
>
> This may get me some push back (although perhaps not from this crowd) but
> I generally do not use a torque wrench on anything involving a metal to
> metal interface with a few exceptions (Shimano HT crank pinch bolts being
> the most common). With things that are common on Riv bikes like quill stems
> and threaded headsets, most of these components were designed before every
> mechanic had access to a torque wrench and have no meaningful torque spec
> because the limiting factor is rarely the stem and more often the steerer
> that fails. These components, and square taper cranks, just need to be
> torqued *a lot* but not too much, and finding that by hand is pretty easy
> if you go slow, evaluate what you're doing and the effect as you go, and
> don't use a wrench that is too big for the job!
>
> Cheers,
> Thomas in Portland, OR
>
> On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 3:40:46 AM UTC-7 David Hallerman wrote:
>
>> Dunno about 4Nm being quite a lot. Just earlier this week I installed a
>> new, early 21st century Campagnolo front derailleur. And the multi-language
>> instruction sheet put 5Nm as the target torque for the clamp.
>>
>> Dave, who prefers Nm over the other torque metrics because hey Isaac
>> Newton
>> + + +
>> Hudson Valley NY
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 5:26 AM Nick Payne  wrote:
>>
>>> That surprises me. I've been fitting band-on front derailleurs for about
>>> half a century, and can't recall ever even damaging paintwork, let alone
>>> denting a seat tube. Mind you, 4Nm is quite a lot - I'm rather surprised
>>> that the marked setting would be that high. I've never used a torque wrench
>>> on an FD clamp when assembling a bike, but it doesn't need anything like
>>> that much force applied to the pinch bolt to hold the derailleur in place.
>>> After all, the handlebar clamp bolts on threadless stems are usually marked
>>> as 5Nm; that's sufficient to hold the handlebars in place, and the
>>> rotational force on a drop handlebar when you've got your weight out on the
>>> brake hoods is many times greater than that on an FD.
>>>
>>> The other possible problem might be your torque wrench. If it's a torque
>>> wrench that goes up to 25Nm or 30Nm, then it's quite likely to have
>>> substantial error at low settings.
>>>
>>> Nick
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Re: [RBW] Need 700x45C recommendations, please

[David Hallerman]

If 700x43 is okay, Gravel King SS has a really useful mixed tread.

On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 6:29 PM EricP  wrote:

> Looking to put the biggest tires I can on my early Sam Hillborne. With the
> sidepulls, 45mm is supposedly max. So what's out there? I have the Kendas
> from the Clem on there now. Heavy and slow, but very reliable.
>
> As I am very heavy don't want to try the Rene Herse (Grand Bois) again.
> Had a set of Barlow Pass on this spring and ended up with three punctures
> on one ride. Just not worth it for the super light weight.
>
> So far am thinking of the Schwalbe G-One, but what are some other favorite
> options?
>
> Thanks.
>
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> St. Paul, MN
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Re: [RBW] Re: i pinched seat tube putting on problem solvers brand front derailleur clamp

[David Hallerman]

Dunno about 4Nm being quite a lot. Just earlier this week I installed a
new, early 21st century Campagnolo front derailleur. And the multi-language
instruction sheet put 5Nm as the target torque for the clamp.

Dave, who prefers Nm over the other torque metrics because hey Isaac Newton
+ + +
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On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 5:26 AM Nick Payne  wrote:

> That surprises me. I've been fitting band-on front derailleurs for about
> half a century, and can't recall ever even damaging paintwork, let alone
> denting a seat tube. Mind you, 4Nm is quite a lot - I'm rather surprised
> that the marked setting would be that high. I've never used a torque wrench
> on an FD clamp when assembling a bike, but it doesn't need anything like
> that much force applied to the pinch bolt to hold the derailleur in place.
> After all, the handlebar clamp bolts on threadless stems are usually marked
> as 5Nm; that's sufficient to hold the handlebars in place, and the
> rotational force on a drop handlebar when you've got your weight out on the
> brake hoods is many times greater than that on an FD.
>
> The other possible problem might be your torque wrench. If it's a torque
> wrench that goes up to 25Nm or 30Nm, then it's quite likely to have
> substantial error at low settings.
>
> Nick
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[RBW] Re: FS: 30 Bottom Brackets, square taper & Octalink, NEW plus

[David Hallerman]

Here's what's left on the BBs. *Price drops* on all. Price includes 
shipping in conus. To those good folks who already bought units: they're 
shipping tomorrow.


Thanks for looking.

Dave
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_/*SQUARE TAPER SPINDLE, CARTRIDGE*/_
Phil Wood ti spindle 125mm offset 3mm, rebuilt by Phil = $107
Phil Wood ti spindle 123mm offset 2mm, rebuilt by Phil = $116
IRD QB75 103mm, new in box = $42
Campagnolo AC-S Veloce 111mm, new in box = $25

_/*SHIMANO SQUARE TAPER CARTRIDGE*/_
UN73 113mm, new in box = $45
UN51 113mm, new (installed/removed) = $40
UN73 113mm, new (installed/removed) = $40
UN72 113mm, exc. clean shell/spins well = $24
UN51 115mm, vg but some rust = $19
UN51 118mm, new but small rust = $28
UN52 118mm, new in box = $33
UN51 127mm, vg but some rust = $18

_/*SHIMANO OCTALINK*/_
Dura-Ace 7710 109.5mm, new in box = $85
105 5500 109.5mm 109.5mm, new in box = $39
Ultegra 6500 109.5mm, new in box = $55
Ultegra 6500 109.5mm, fair cosmetic/spins well = $23
Ultegra 6500 (no label) 109.5mm, exc. = $28
Dura-Ace 7703 118.5mm, new (installed/removed) = $75
105 5500 118.5mm 109.5mm, new in box = $39

On 8/1/21 1:14 PM, David Hallerman wrote:


Hi,

Many BBs for sale today, most new, all British thread, all for 68mm 
shell width. All but the Campy BB are square taper spindle JIS or 
Shimano Octalink V1 (road). Prices include shipping in the conus if 
you cover the Paypal fee. No photos right now (other than this group 
shot), but if you need to see a particular unit, please let me know. 
And all the used ones are solidly working components.


Dave, who thinks four separate posts for the four categories of BBs 
might also make sense dontcha think and oh yes please make an offer if 
you want one or more BBs and think my price suggestion is too high

+ + + + +
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_*SHIMANO SQUARE TAPER CARTRIDGE*_
UN73 113mm, new in box = $49
UN51 113mm, new (installed/removed) = $45
UN73 113mm, new (installed/removed) = $45
UN73 115mm, new in box = $40
UN51 118mm, new but small rust = $30
UN52 118mm, new in box = $38
UN53 118mm, new in box = $34
UN55 122.5mm, new in box = $45
UN72 127mm, new in box = $42
UN72 113mm, exc. clean shell/spins well = $28
UN71 115mm, exc. clean shell/spins well = $26
UN51 115mm, vg but some rust = $21
UN51 127mm, vg but some rust = $19
UN72 111mm, vg = $18
UN72 108mm, vg rust shell/spins nice = $17

_*SHIMANO OCTALINK*_
Ultegra 6500 109.5mm, new in box = $58
Ultegra 6500 109.5mm, fair cosmetic/spins well = $29
Ultegra 6500 118.5mm, new in box = $50
Ultegra 6500 118.5mm, new (installed/removed) = $00
Ultegra 6500 (no label) 109.5mm, exc. = $33
Dura-Ace 7703 118.5mm, new (installed/removed) = $75
Dura-Ace 7710 109.5mm, new in box = $90
105 5500 109.5mm 109.5mm, new in box = $45
105 5500 118.5mm 109.5mm, new in box = $40

_*SQUARE TAPER SPINDLE, CARTRIDGE*_
Velo-Orange 110.5mm, new (installed/removed) = $35
Suntour CB00 116mm, new (installed/removed) = $37
IRD QB75 103mm, new in box = $50
Campagnolo AC-S Veloce 111mm, new in box = $29
Phil Wood ti spindle 125mm offset 3mm, rebuilt by Phil = $125
Phil Wood ti spindle 123mm offset 2mm, rebuilt by Phil = $123

_*SQUARE TAPER SPINDLE, CUP-AND-CONE*_
Shimano Ultegra D-3L spindle 116mm, new (installed/removed) = $28
Tange D-3P spindle 119mm, vg = $15
Tange & Sakae group, includes 3 sets of cups & bearings new, 3 
spindles (123mm new, 125.5mm new, 123mm used) = $35










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Re: [RBW] FS: Phil Wood, Nitto, Arkel, MKS, Rivendell, Park parts

[David Hallerman]

And Gunner is a great and fair seller, which I know from having bought a 
Rambouillet frameset from him in June, which I hope to show you all soon 
all built up and ready to ramble.


Dave, who would like to believe the near-homonym connection between the 
name Rambouillet and the verb ramble is one of two reasons why Grant 
chose that name for the bike with the other reason being wol


On 8/1/21 4:03 PM, 'Gerard Gunhouse' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
I have gone ahead and added pictures of the Phil Wood/ 36H/ 700C wheel 
set to my Flickr account. The rims are silver and the wheel set is new.


Best regards

Gunner

On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 12:58:00 PM UTC-4 Sam Perez wrote:

I’ll take the m12 if it’s for 26 “

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 31, 2021, at 9:36 AM, 'Gerard Gunhouse' via RBW Owners
Bunch  wrote:

Decided to clear out some additional parts that may be of
interest. Pictures are provided via Flickr.
https://flic.kr/s/aHsmW4KhM9 

  * Nitto Rear Rack (medium)  New    $180.00
  * Nitto M12 Front Rack  New  $75.00
  * Arkel Commuter Bag w/ laptop sleeve  Excellent conditon  $50.00
  * MKS Track Pedals New   $25.00

  * Rivendell Banana Bag New  $70.00
  * Pair of Avocet Fas Grip City tires K1.25 26x1.25 (559x32mm)
less than 50 miles  $35.00
  * Park Cable /Housing Cutter CN-10   $30

Shipping not included

In addition, I have a wheel set I had built up (Peter White) I am
considering selling. The set is new and has never been ridden. $750

  * Phil Wood 120/135 36H Touring Hub Set (Shimano compatable)
  * Mavic A719 700C/36H
  * Wheelsmith DB spokes



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[RBW] FS: 30 Bottom Brackets, square taper & Octalink, NEW plus

[David Hallerman]

Hi,

Many BBs for sale today, most new, all British thread, all for 68mm 
shell width. All but the Campy BB are square taper spindle JIS or 
Shimano Octalink V1 (road). Prices include shipping in the conus if you 
cover the Paypal fee. No photos right now (other than this group shot), 
but if you need to see a particular unit, please let me know. And all 
the used ones are solidly working components.


Dave, who thinks four separate posts for the four categories of BBs 
might also make sense dontcha think and oh yes please make an offer if 
you want one or more BBs and think my price suggestion is too high

+ + + + +
cyclema...@gmail.com


_*SHIMANO SQUARE TAPER CARTRIDGE*_
UN73 113mm, new in box = $49
UN51 113mm, new (installed/removed) = $45
UN73 113mm, new (installed/removed) = $45
UN73 115mm, new in box = $40
UN51 118mm, new but small rust = $30
UN52 118mm, new in box = $38
UN53 118mm, new in box = $34
UN55 122.5mm, new in box = $45
UN72 127mm, new in box = $42
UN72 113mm, exc. clean shell/spins well = $28
UN71 115mm, exc. clean shell/spins well = $26
UN51 115mm, vg but some rust = $21
UN51 127mm, vg but some rust = $19
UN72 111mm, vg = $18
UN72 108mm, vg rust shell/spins nice = $17

_*SHIMANO OCTALINK*_
Ultegra 6500 109.5mm, new in box = $58
Ultegra 6500 109.5mm, fair cosmetic/spins well = $29
Ultegra 6500 118.5mm, new in box = $50
Ultegra 6500 118.5mm, new (installed/removed) = $00
Ultegra 6500 (no label) 109.5mm, exc. = $33
Dura-Ace 7703 118.5mm, new (installed/removed) = $75
Dura-Ace 7710 109.5mm, new in box = $90
105 5500 109.5mm 109.5mm, new in box = $45
105 5500 118.5mm 109.5mm, new in box = $40

_*SQUARE TAPER SPINDLE, CARTRIDGE*_
Velo-Orange 110.5mm, new (installed/removed) = $35
Suntour CB00 116mm, new (installed/removed) = $37
IRD QB75 103mm, new in box = $50
Campagnolo AC-S Veloce 111mm, new in box = $29
Phil Wood ti spindle 125mm offset 3mm, rebuilt by Phil = $125
Phil Wood ti spindle 123mm offset 2mm, rebuilt by Phil = $123

_*SQUARE TAPER SPINDLE, CUP-AND-CONE*_
Shimano Ultegra D-3L spindle 116mm, new (installed/removed) = $28
Tange D-3P spindle 119mm, vg = $15
Tange & Sakae group, includes 3 sets of cups & bearings new, 3 spindles 
(123mm new, 125.5mm new, 123mm used) = $35








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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Roadini 54 cm

[David Hallerman]

“You” might have been correct the first time. There’s a lot of
identification with a good bike.

On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 7:24 PM Doug H.  wrote:

> *your
>
> On Sunday, July 11, 2021 at 7:23:28 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Sell me you 54 cm Roadini complete. I know you want to...
>> Doug
>> Athens, GA
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[RBW] Rambouillet 700c tire fit

[David Hallerman]

Hi,

As I gather parts to transform my NOS green Rambouillet frame into the
free-range, Green Goddess bicycle, I particularly have questions about
tires. Questions for RAM owners now and before.

* I’m guessing everyone has had no to little problem with 700x35 tires. If
not correct, what was your glitch? What rim, too? And what 35s?

* And if you’ve comfortably fit 700x38 tires, what tires, rims, brakes do
you have (or did you have) on your Rambouillet?

Thanks much for your experienced perspectives!

Dave, the former editor who has also seemed to see the nickname RAM as all
caps like that rather than just Ram and wonders if his perception is
accurate and if it is accurate why do people write the name in all caps

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS - Rivendell Rambouillet

[David Hallerman]

Reading posts kvelling over the Rambouillet delights me for a special new
reason - I’m the very lucky guy who bought the NOS 56cm Ram frameset that
Gerard Gunhouse sold here less than a fortnight ago.


As someone who owned an original Waterford-built Riv Road Standard, bought
during the company’s first year, and regrets selling it a few years ago,
this new and perhaps better chance (fatter tires are better) at Riv
All-Roadism - in perfect emerald green no less! - is a source of unexpected
joy.


I’ll post some photos as the build goes along. And thanks again Gunner,
you’ve been a great gentleman across the whole process of my buying your
absurdly well-packed and well-preserved backup Rambouillet. Did I mention
the bike is GREEN?


Dave, who is intent on beaucoup beausage for his new Ram to counter a core
reason he sold his original Riv Road which had to do with some kind of
preservation but hey you know life is short

+ + + + + + + +

Hudson Valley NY

On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 11:13 AM Cyclofiend Jim  wrote:

> A quick scan back through the last year or so brings up some listings for
> built Rams in the $1500 range.
> Green frame would likely have been ~2007-2009 - that was the last color
> option.
>
> On Wednesday, July 7, 2021 at 8:08:50 AM UTC-7 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>
>> It's weird to think of folks not knowing the Rambouillet... but, that was
>> a few years ago now.
>> Here's info on it and a scan of the booklet -
>> http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/rambouillet/index.html
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 5:23:43 PM UTC-7 rtan...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Want to sell this bike.  Top tube - 20", seat tube - 22", wheelbase - 40"
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[David Hallerman]

A really sweet-looking 1992 Bridgestone MB-2 in Stamford CT for $450.
Listed at about 5pm on the Fourth. I think it’s going fast.

https://newyork.craigslist.org/fct/bik/d/stamford-1992-bridgestone-mb/7346246809.html


On Sun, Jul 4, 2021 at 6:50 PM Matthew Williams <
matthewwilliamsdes...@gmail.com> wrote:

> A. Homer Hilsen
> 51cm
> $2000
> San Jose, CA
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/203513661037
>
>
>
> On Jul 4, 2021, at 3:47 PM, Matthew Williams <
> matthewwilliamsdes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Atlantis
> > 55cm
> > $2750
> > Oroville, CA
> >
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/oroville-2020-rivendell-atlantis/7345549682.html
> >
> > Clem Smith Jr. H
> > 59cm
> > $1600
> > San Francisco, CA
> >
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-rivendell-clem-smith-jr-59/7345476548.html
> >
> > Appaloosa
> > 55cm
> > $2150
> > Rancho Mirage, CA
> >
> https://palmsprings.craigslist.org/bik/d/rancho-mirage-rivendell-appaloosa-55cm/7345908501.html
> >
> > Sam Hillborne
> > 51cm
> > $2150
> > Rancho Mirage, CA
> >
> https://palmsprings.craigslist.org/bik/d/rancho-mirage-rivendell-hillborne-51cm/7345893402.html
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Re: [RBW] Re: Cycling apps for Apple Watch

[David Hallerman]

I like Ride With GPS a lot, too. It’s helped me stop using cyclocomputers,
which is far more relaxing. No info about speed or distance to distract me
during the ride, but then after my curiosity gets sated by looking through
the Ride With GPS data.

Best of both worlds!

Dave, who will most definitely not put any digital devices on the
handlebars of the amazing new green Rambouillet that arrived here today but
that’s a topic for another post

On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 12:21 PM Robert Hakim 
wrote:

> I really like Ride With GPS!
> Pretty similar to strava, but it doesn't have the KOM/social competitive
> features that strava ships with.
>
> -Robert
>
> On Wednesday, June 30, 2021 at 12:14:23 PM UTC-4 Tom Wyland wrote:
>
>> Strava.  Just tracking commutes and joining local challenges (like
>> Freezing Saddles, etc).  The watch app can independently track your ride
>> then sync with the phone later, if you prefer that route.
>>
>> Be prepared for Strava to encourage you to be "the fastest" and refer to
>> you as an "athlete" constantly.  Super annoying.
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Re: [RBW] Interesting Riv

[David Hallerman]

Speaking of Protovelo, here’s one for sale in NYC.

https://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/bik/d/new-york-rivendell-bicycle-works-cm/7342042431.html

Dave, who has an incoming Riv so needs to ignore ads like this

On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cyclofiend Jim 
wrote:

> The "Protovelo" stickers were later - maybe '05 or so...  they were
> created to sell frames which were laying about in the warehouse. I've never
> seen those applied to bikes which weren't pretty close to production models
> - might have used a different dropout without fender/rack mounts or had
> braze-ons for cable routing in a weird place. Most I've seen had received
> quality powder coating or paint.
>
> It does seem to have a "star" under the bottle boss, but Riv were't the
> only ones doing those types of details.
>
> On Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 6:13:24 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>>
>> I always thought Rivendell marked their prototypes as Protovelo
>> On Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 7:14:13 AM UTC-4 Steven Sweedler wrote:
>>
>>> I had a similar Road Custom that was designed around 700 x 28s w/cantis.
>>> This was before longer reach dual pivots were introduced. Steve
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 2:49 AM dub...@hotmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Team,

 Purchased this one on ebay and the story is that its a Prototype
 Rivendell

 Anyone have any ideas on it's back ground?

 SN M1






 Regards

 Adrian the Aussie

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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[David Hallerman]

A lovely custom touring bike from a builder, Leo Castellon, I’ve never
heard of. Perhaps a nice price, too.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/184585787339


On Sat, Jun 26, 2021 at 5:41 PM Matthew Williams <
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> Anyone looking for a 54cm Losco?
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bop/d/san-francisco-blue-lug-nitto-losco-bar/7341016068.html
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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[David Hallerman]

And this Peter Mooney in blue and white is just exquisite!

https://nh.craigslist.org/bik/d/nashua-peter-mooney-road-bicycle-56cm/7334106031.html


On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 4:16 PM David Hallerman 
wrote:

> I like this Heron, but not ready to buy another.
>
>
> https://providence.craigslist.org/bik/d/north-smithfield-heron-rivendell/7327533955.html
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 4:58 PM Charlie R  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Prices are increasing - note the price for this 60 cm Cheviot eBay sale -
>> $3200+ shipping..  Almost makes $3500 price seem in the ball park.
>>
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/203489313172?nma=true=SZFNCOL2PFVc63cY5IP%252Fbt9l9Sg%253D_cvip=true=true=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
>> On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 3:06:20 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> - "Agreed Joe. But, damn that's a nice build." -
>>>
>>> It is indeed, and these fillet frames are astonishing live in person.
>>> Despite his bizarre approach he may get that money for it.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 11:33:23 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
>>>> Agreed Joe. But, damn that's a nice build.
>>>> Doug
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 2:10 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In this market with that out-of-stock Riv he may actually get it, but
>>>>> if I ever sell my Susie remind me not to preemptively call potential 
>>>>> buyers
>>>>> low-balling douchebags. Sheesh!
>>>>>
>>>>> "Please don’t contract me if you don’t have $3,500.
>>>>> I would rather sit and stare at it as a work of art than deal with
>>>>> low-balling douchebags."
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 10:33:08 AM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Wishful thinking on the price.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 12:53 PM, Matthew Williams <
>>>>>> matthewwil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wolbis Slugstone/Susie W. Longbolts
>>>>>> 56cm
>>>>>> $3500
>>>>>> Emeryville, CA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/emeryville-rivendell-wolbis-slugstone/7339629866.html
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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[David Hallerman]

I like this Heron, but not ready to buy another.

https://providence.craigslist.org/bik/d/north-smithfield-heron-rivendell/7327533955.html


On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 4:58 PM Charlie R  wrote:

>
>
> Prices are increasing - note the price for this 60 cm Cheviot eBay sale -
> $3200+ shipping..  Almost makes $3500 price seem in the ball park.
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/203489313172?nma=true=SZFNCOL2PFVc63cY5IP%252Fbt9l9Sg%253D_cvip=true=true=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
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>
>> - "Agreed Joe. But, damn that's a nice build." -
>>
>> It is indeed, and these fillet frames are astonishing live in person.
>> Despite his bizarre approach he may get that money for it.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 11:33:23 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> Agreed Joe. But, damn that's a nice build.
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 2:10 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
 In this market with that out-of-stock Riv he may actually get it, but
 if I ever sell my Susie remind me not to preemptively call potential buyers
 low-balling douchebags. Sheesh!

 "Please don’t contract me if you don’t have $3,500.
 I would rather sit and stare at it as a work of art than deal with
 low-balling douchebags."

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>
> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
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>
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>
> Wolbis Slugstone/Susie W. Longbolts
> 56cm
> $3500
> Emeryville, CA
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/emeryville-rivendell-wolbis-slugstone/7339629866.html
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[RBW] Re: FS: Bike Tools Suntour Park VAR Hozan Campy Stein more

[David Hallerman]

Hello and WOW!

I knew bike tools would sell, but not that quickly. Thank you, thank 
you, thank you big time for all your responses. And to be honest, with 
all the incoming email and messages, I might have, probably have, missed 
one or two or three. If that was your message, I'm sorry. If the item 
you want is still listed, please try again.


Of the 54 line items originally, there are only 11 left, listed below. 
Again, photos are here, with pretty much just the remaining tools 
pictured: https://photos.app.goo.gl/HMHjnepFaMBdCdeL9


Still available, and a few notes.
* Item #38, the Serotta fit tool and the small level it needs replaced. 
I priced one of the same size online, and it's less than $2.
* Item #46, sleuthed by potential buyer RJL - this little 13/19mm wrench 
came with Suntour cantilever brakes, like the XC Pro ones I installed 
many years ago. Here's some more info: 
https://restoringvintagebicycles.com/tag/suntour/
* Item #24, of all the items left, this is the one I'm most surprised 
didn't sell yet. Item #51 is pretty nice too, and its price is not that 
fixed.


16.    Pamir Engineering cassette tool, Shimano $12
19.    Park CBW-1/5 five-piece wrench set, 8-11mm $28
24.    Park CRS-1 crown race setter, 1" and 1-1/8" near-new, $62 plus 
shipping

31.    Park SPA-6 pin tool $13
38.    Serotta SICI XY Fit Tool, NEW needs new small level $165 plus 
shipping

46.    Suntour 13/19mm travel wrench $10
47.     Suntour hub & freewheel vise, NEW $115 plus shipping
51.    Wheelsmith folding dishing tool, $135 plus shipping
52.    Wippermann chain wear indicator $13
53.    Zogs bottom bracket tool $12 plus shipping
54. Campy 13/14 = $11

Dave
+ + + + + + + +
Hudson Valley NY

On 6/17/21 10:44 AM, David Hallerman wrote:


Hi,

A bunch of tools for sale. Many are barely or never used. Those that 
are used more are tools, of course, and still perform their job just 
as well as when they were new. Pictures of all of them can be found 
here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/iXqKjiJ3R1cj6erj7


Questions quickly answered, and if you find a price too high, consider 
making an offer. Prices include shipping, except in a few cases as 
noted. With 54 items for sale, please also refer to items by their 
number if you can.


Thanks for looking, replies off-list.

Dave

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1.    Abbey Bike Works cassette tool, Shimano & Campagnolo $32
2.    Axle Vise $23
3.    Bicycle Engineering TSAG-3 truing stand alignment gauge $35
4.    Bicycle Research BP-1 sealed bearing punch $19
5.    Bicycle Research freewheel tool $19
6.    Bicycle Research nipple driver $19
7.    Campagnolo headset, pedals, bottom bracket toolset (3) $39
8.    Chain whips, pair $14
9.    Chainring nut tool $15
10.    Feedback hanging bicycle scale $35
11.    Fiber fix kevlar spoke, pair $14
12.    Freewheel grease injector $16
13.    Hozan C-451 seat stay expander, NEW $85 plus shipping
14.    Mitutoyo dial calipers, 150mm $68
15.    Morningstar freehub lubrication tool $22
16.    Pamir Engineering cassette tool, Shimano $12
17.    Pamir Engineering chain whip $12
18.    Park axle tool $12
19.    Park CBW-1/5 five-piece wrench set, 8-11mm $28
20.    Park CCP-4 crank arm tool $13
21.    Park CCW-4 crank bolt tool, 14-15mm $16
22.    Park CLG-2 chainline gauge $27
23.    Park CRP-1 crown race puller, w/new wedges $110 plus shipping
24.    Park CRS-1 crown race setter, 1" and 1-1/8" near-new, $62 plus 
shipping

25.    Park CW-13 to CW-19 hub wrench 7-piece set $50
26.    Park DAG-1 derailleur hanger gauge & repair tool $43 plus shipping
27.    Park FFG-1 dropout alignment tools $52 plus shipping
28.    Park FTS-1 fork threader 1-inch, NEW $175 plus shipping
29.    Park MLP-1 master link pliers $14
30.    Park SD-1 brake screwdriver $13
31.    Park SPA-6 pin tool $13
32.    Park SW-10 locking spoke wrench $23
33.    Park TL-10 tire removal/install tool $25 plus shipping
34.    Park TM-1 spoke tension meter, near-new $55
35.    Park WAG-1 wheel alignment tool $25, plus shipping
36.    Ritchey 5Nm stem/handlebars torque wrench $17
37.    Rohloff HG-IG cassette cog checker $22
38.    Serotta SICI XY Fit Tool, NEW needs new small level $165 plus 
shipping

39.    Speedtech chainwear indicator $13
40.    SRAM cable & housing cutter, NEW $30
41.    Stein chainline checker, NEW $28 plus shipping
42.    Stein Hyper-Handle cassette remover $25
43.    Stein pedal grease injector $17
44.    Stein seatpost sizing rods, near-new $59
45.    Sugino bottom bracket tools $24
46.    Suntour 13/19mm travel wrench $10
47.    Suntour hub & freewheel vise, NEW $115 plus shipping
48.    Tange 36/40 headset wrench pair $18
49.    VAR chain pin tool, NEW $25
50.    Wheels Manufacturing dust cover tool $12
51.    Wheelsmith folding dishing tool, $135 plus shipping
52.    Wippermann chain wear indicator $13
53.    Zogs bottom bracket tool $12 plus shippin

[RBW] FS: Bike Tools Suntour Park VAR Hozan Campy Stein more

[David Hallerman]

Hi,

A bunch of tools for sale. Many are barely or never used. Those that are 
used more are tools, of course, and still perform their job just as well 
as when they were new. Pictures of all of them can be found here: 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/iXqKjiJ3R1cj6erj7


Questions quickly answered, and if you find a price too high, consider 
making an offer. Prices include shipping, except in a few cases as 
noted. With 54 items for sale, please also refer to items by their 
number if you can.


Thanks for looking, replies off-list.

Dave

*David Hallerman*

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*Hudson Valley NY*


1.    Abbey Bike Works cassette tool, Shimano & Campagnolo $32
2.    Axle Vise $23
3.    Bicycle Engineering TSAG-3 truing stand alignment gauge $35
4.    Bicycle Research BP-1 sealed bearing punch $19
5.    Bicycle Research freewheel tool $19
6.    Bicycle Research nipple driver $19
7.    Campagnolo headset, pedals, bottom bracket toolset (3) $39
8.    Chain whips, pair $14
9.    Chainring nut tool $15
10.    Feedback hanging bicycle scale $35
11.    Fiber fix kevlar spoke, pair $14
12.    Freewheel grease injector $16
13.    Hozan C-451 seat stay expander, NEW $85 plus shipping
14.    Mitutoyo dial calipers, 150mm $68
15.    Morningstar freehub lubrication tool $22
16.    Pamir Engineering cassette tool, Shimano $12
17.    Pamir Engineering chain whip $12
18.    Park axle tool $12
19.    Park CBW-1/5 five-piece wrench set, 8-11mm $28
20.    Park CCP-4 crank arm tool $13
21.    Park CCW-4 crank bolt tool, 14-15mm $16
22.    Park CLG-2 chainline gauge $27
23.    Park CRP-1 crown race puller, w/new wedges $110 plus shipping
24.    Park CRS-1 crown race setter, 1" and 1-1/8" near-new, $62 plus 
shipping

25.    Park CW-13 to CW-19 hub wrench 7-piece set $50
26.    Park DAG-1 derailleur hanger gauge & repair tool $43 plus shipping
27.    Park FFG-1 dropout alignment tools $52 plus shipping
28.    Park FTS-1 fork threader 1-inch, NEW $175 plus shipping
29.    Park MLP-1 master link pliers $14
30.    Park SD-1 brake screwdriver $13
31.    Park SPA-6 pin tool $13
32.    Park SW-10 locking spoke wrench $23
33.    Park TL-10 tire removal/install tool $25 plus shipping
34.    Park TM-1 spoke tension meter, near-new $55
35.    Park WAG-1 wheel alignment tool $25, plus shipping
36.    Ritchey 5Nm stem/handlebars torque wrench $17
37.    Rohloff HG-IG cassette cog checker $22
38.    Serotta SICI XY Fit Tool, NEW needs new small level $165 plus 
shipping

39.    Speedtech chainwear indicator $13
40.    SRAM cable & housing cutter, NEW $30
41.    Stein chainline checker, NEW $28 plus shipping
42.    Stein Hyper-Handle cassette remover $25
43.    Stein pedal grease injector $17
44.    Stein seatpost sizing rods, near-new $59
45.    Sugino bottom bracket tools $24
46.    Suntour 13/19mm travel wrench $10
47.    Suntour hub & freewheel vise, NEW $115 plus shipping
48.    Tange 36/40 headset wrench pair $18
49.    VAR chain pin tool, NEW $25
50.    Wheels Manufacturing dust cover tool $12
51.    Wheelsmith folding dishing tool, $135 plus shipping
52.    Wippermann chain wear indicator $13
53.    Zogs bottom bracket tool $12 plus shipping
54.    Four travel wrenches: Park MT-1 multi-tool, Campy 13/14, Park 
RW-1 32/15, Unknown 32/plus = $26



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Re: [RBW] FS: RAMBOUILLET (56CM) GREEN LATE PRODUCTION

[David Hallerman]

My zip, should you want to figure shipping, is 10566.

Thanks!

On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 1:01 PM David Hallerman 
wrote:

> Hi Gerard,
>
> I’d like to buy the Rambo. How come it’s being sold?
>
> And next steps?
>
> Dave
> +
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>
> On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 12:15 PM Gerard Gunhouse 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>- NEW IN THE BOX HAS NEVER BEEN BUILT UP INTO A COMPLETE BIKE
>>- SHIMANO BOTTOM BRACKET UN55 (113)
>>- INCLUDES NEW STRONGLIGHT DELTA HEADSET
>>- HONJO FENDER SET (NEW)
>>- SERIAL# RB1100
>>- 1100.00 PLUS ACTUAL S/H CHARGES
>>- PROFESSIONALLY PACKED
>>- SEE PICTURES IN FLICKR ATTACHMENT
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/143721512@N07/albums/72157719408393298
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Re: [RBW] FS: RAMBOUILLET (56CM) GREEN LATE PRODUCTION

[David Hallerman]

Hi Gerard,

I’d like to buy the Rambo. How come it’s being sold?

And next steps?

Dave
+
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On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 12:15 PM Gerard Gunhouse 
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>
>- NEW IN THE BOX HAS NEVER BEEN BUILT UP INTO A COMPLETE BIKE
>- SHIMANO BOTTOM BRACKET UN55 (113)
>- INCLUDES NEW STRONGLIGHT DELTA HEADSET
>- HONJO FENDER SET (NEW)
>- SERIAL# RB1100
>- 1100.00 PLUS ACTUAL S/H CHARGES
>- PROFESSIONALLY PACKED
>- SEE PICTURES IN FLICKR ATTACHMENT
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Re: [RBW] All Rounder on ebay

[David Hallerman]

At other moments in my life, I’d be checking my bank accounts right after
clicking on that link.

On Sat, Jun 12, 2021 at 9:00 PM Steven Sweedler  wrote:

> Nicely equipped AR
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/114848850767
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Re: [RBW] Cold Weather Gloves PSA

[David Hallerman]

The blurb for the Piggyback gloves sounds like Grant could have written 
it. Or at least his favorite brother.


Dave, in the grey today Hudson Valley

==

On 11/13/20 10:44 AM, Ben Mihovk wrote:

Piggyback Gloves
http://www.ponderosacyclery.com/store/raber-gloves
I love these gloves for cool weather. Low 50s down to mid 30s maybe. 
With a wool liner, lower (but you can't beat the Garbage Mitts for low 
30s and down). Just little easier for shifting and braking than the 
mitts.


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[RBW] Re: For Sale: Heron Road 56.5cm $950

[David Hallerman]

SOLD to SR - and thanks for all your fascinating comments! - Dave in the 
Hudson Valley


On 8/31/20 10:24 AM, David Hallerman wrote:


Hi,

This first-generation Heron Road was designed by Grant Petersen in the 
late 1990s, built by Waterford Precision Cycles, and sold by Rivendell 
Bicycle Works. This all-steel, lugged Reynolds 531 tubing bike is in 
impeccable condition as are all the parts, since I put only 280 
dry-weather miles on the odometer since its recent build with new parts.


For now, though, what do I love best about this bike? Takes wider 
tires than many road bikes, and it's balanced, elegant, and much fun 
to ride. Parts highlights include Velocity wheels bought from 
Rivendell and the ever-lovely Sugino Alpina silver cranks.


At *$950*, I believe this is a really good deal. Note the price does 
not include the saddle, pedals, and accessories. Detailed geometry and 
parts info below. Please read the NOTES below, too. Note as well that 
I cannot ship the bike right now, so the price is for pickup here in 
northern Westchester or I'll deliver your purchase within a 25-mile 
(or so) distance from my home.


One photo attached, and more here: 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/3Cs6TrE84nN98Rem9


All questions quickly answered.

Dave
+
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_*GEOMETRY*_
Seat tube (c-c) = 56.0 cm
Top tube = 56.5 cm
Head tube = 143 mm
Chainstay = 42.5 mm
Standover height = 81.0 cm
Head tube angle = 73.5°
Seat tube angle = 72.5°

_*PARTS (saddle, pedals, accessories not included)*_
Headset = Chris King 2-Nut, 1-inch threaded
Stem = Nitto UI-2, 110mm/90°
Cranks = Sugino Alpina, 170mm
Chainrings = Sugino 48/34
Cassette = Shimano Deore XT (750), 9-speed, 12x34
Front Derailleur = Shimano Dura-Ace (7410)
Rear Derailleur = Shimano Deore XT (750), 9-speed
Shifters = Campagnolo Centaur, 10-speed, grey
Brakes = Shimano Ultegra SL, grey
Seatpost = Suntour XC Pro, 27.2mm
Wheels = Velocity Silver hubs/Velocity Synergy rims
Tires = Vittoria Rubino Pro Tech, 700x28

_*NOTES*_
The bike combines Campy Ergo shifters with a Shimano mountain rear 
cassette and a compact crankset. The Campy-Shimano merger is powered 
by a Shiftmate, a device I've found wonderfully reliable across dozens 
of bikes, with indexing as accurate and smooth as single-group setups.




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Re: [RBW] Re: For Sale: Heron Road 56.5cm $950

[David Hallerman]

Hey Frank, Hey Joe, thanks for your posts.

If I were 10 years younger or had 10 fewer bikes, this Heron wouldn't be 
for sale. But I'm crazy, since I'm both thinning my herd and adding to 
my herd at the same time.


Bicycles create a form of comfortable insanity in me, something 2020 
really really needs.


Dave
+
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On 8/31/20 6:23 PM, Frank Brose wrote:
This is beyond a really good deal. These are fantastic bikes. I had 
one. Selling it was one of many stupid bicycle deals I've made. I'd 
suggest anybody not familiar with Heron do a little homework. You'd be 
hard pressed to find one in this condition as well. If I was in the 
market I'd pay that for the frame alone and consider the parts a 
bonus. There's a reason you don't see these for sale very often.


On Monday, August 31, 2020 at 9:25:07 AM UTC-5, David Hallerman wrote:

Hi,

This first-generation Heron Road was designed by Grant Petersen in
the late 1990s, built by Waterford Precision Cycles, and sold by
Rivendell Bicycle Works. This all-steel, lugged Reynolds 531
tubing bike is in impeccable condition as are all the parts, since
I put only 280 dry-weather miles on the odometer since its recent
build with new parts.

For now, though, what do I love best about this bike? Takes wider
tires than many road bikes, and it's balanced, elegant, and much
fun to ride. Parts highlights include Velocity wheels bought from
Rivendell and the ever-lovely Sugino Alpina silver cranks.

At *$950*, I believe this is a really good deal. Note the price
does not include the saddle, pedals, and accessories. Detailed
geometry and parts info below. Please read the NOTES below, too.
Note as well that I cannot ship the bike right now, so the price
is for pickup here in northern Westchester or I'll deliver your
purchase within a 25-mile (or so) distance from my home.

One photo attached, and more here:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/3Cs6TrE84nN98Rem9
<https://photos.app.goo.gl/3Cs6TrE84nN98Rem9>

All questions quickly answered.

Dave
+
Hudson Valley NY

_*GEOMETRY*_
Seat tube (c-c) = 56.0 cm
Top tube = 56.5 cm
Head tube = 143 mm
Chainstay = 42.5 mm
Standover height = 81.0 cm
Head tube angle = 73.5°
Seat tube angle = 72.5°

_*PARTS (saddle, pedals, accessories not included)*_
Headset = Chris King 2-Nut, 1-inch threaded
Stem = Nitto UI-2, 110mm/90°
Cranks = Sugino Alpina, 170mm
Chainrings = Sugino 48/34
Cassette = Shimano Deore XT (750), 9-speed, 12x34
Front Derailleur = Shimano Dura-Ace (7410)
Rear Derailleur = Shimano Deore XT (750), 9-speed
Shifters = Campagnolo Centaur, 10-speed, grey
Brakes = Shimano Ultegra SL, grey
Seatpost = Suntour XC Pro, 27.2mm
Wheels = Velocity Silver hubs/Velocity Synergy rims
Tires = Vittoria Rubino Pro Tech, 700x28

_*NOTES*_
The bike combines Campy Ergo shifters with a Shimano mountain rear
cassette and a compact crankset. The Campy-Shimano merger is
powered by a Shiftmate, a device I've found wonderfully reliable
across dozens of bikes, with indexing as accurate and smooth as
single-group setups.

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[RBW] Re: RBW Relics cloisonné pin & magnets

[David Hallerman]

Sold and thanks!

On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 9:51 AM David Hallerman 
wrote:

> Good morning!
>
> Here are three items that I bought from Rivendell waaay back in the
> mid-1990s, hence the hyperbole of "relics." What you get here are three
> cloisonné head tube badges made into three useful objects: one pin and
> two refrigerator magnets (very powerful magnets too).
>
> As the two photos show, some life wear, some beausage. But fully
> functional and very lovely.
>
> Selling all three together for $39 shipped in conus.
>
> Your thoughts?
>
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Re: [RBW] Just to be Clear ... (On Rivendell and Crazy Conspiracy Theories)

[David Hallerman]

And some of us keep thinking about Q in Star Trek Next Generation.

A far more entertaining Q than the Bond version.

On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 7:19 AM Eric Platt  wrote:

> Sorry,
>
> It was a quote from multiple James Bond movies. By an actor who played a
> character named "Q".
>
> Knew I shouldn't have said anything.
>
> Eric Platt
> St. Paul, MN
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 3:46 PM 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Not being a follower of Q, I wouldn’t know … Or is that what I would say
>> if I WAS a follower of Q?
>>
>> --Eric Norris
>> campyonly...@me.com
>> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
>> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy
>>
>> On Aug 10, 2020, at 11:49 AM, EricP  wrote:
>>
>> Isn't the correct response "Pay attention 007?"
>>
>> Eric Platt
>> St. Paul, MN
>>
>> On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 10:59:21 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/10/20 11:37 AM, 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>>>
>>> I was riding my Quickbeam yesterday, and it dawned on me that the seat
>>> tube decal might lead some to an incorrect conclusion:
>>>
>>>
>>> So, just to be clear: I am NOT a follower of “Q” or “Q Anon” or any of
>>> those related conspiracy theories.
>>>
>>> Thanks. Just had to get that off my chest.
>>>
>>>
>>> Isn't that exactly what you would say if you were "Q" himself?
>>>
>>>
>>> Steve Palincsar
>>> Alexandria, Virginia
>>> USA
>>>
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Re: [RBW] WTB: 55cm or 56cm Heron

[David Hallerman]

Hey, I have a 56cm Heron Road that I was planning to post soon (gotta find
some time to write it up). Complete bike with frame in pristine condition
and almost all new parts, including Velocity wheels I bought from Rivendell.

Contact me off-list if you want to know more.

Dave

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 7:18 PM Rivcyclist  wrote:

> Looking for a 55cm or 56cm Heron Bicycle, Road or Touring. Thanks.
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS ^^^ Nitto Handlebars, NEW & used

[David Hallerman]

Yes John, it's the 135. Does that interest you?

If yes, this email is good for Paypal: cyclema...@gmail.com

Either way, thanks for asking.

Dave

==

On 6/25/20 7:52 PM, 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:

Dave

Is the Grand Randoneur (25.4) bar a B135 or a B132???   I think a B135 
since it is 25,4 clamp


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[RBW] FS ^^^ Nitto Handlebars, NEW & used

[David Hallerman]

Hi,

Here are some Nitto drop handlebars I'd love to pass on. All are either 
new or in excellent condition. All prices include priority mail shipping 
in the CONUS. Photos available on request. All questions quickly 
answered. Thanks for looking!


Grand Randoneur (26.0): 42cm at hoods, 45cm at bar ends = $35 excellent

Grand Randoneur (25.4): 38cm at hoods, 42cm at bar ends = $45 NEW

Mod 185 (26.0): 42cm, classic bend, shallow drop = $55 NEW

Mod 175 (26.0): 42cm, classic bend, deep drop = $40 excellent

M179 STI (26.0): 42cm, double grooves, heat-treated = $100 NEW

Dirt Drop RM013 (26.0): 42cm at hoods, 48cm at bar ends = $40 excellent 
(three available)


Classic B115 (25.4): 42cm = $45 NEW (two available)

Classic B115 (25.4): 42cm = $35 excellent

Dave, who still gets much pleasure from handling parts manufactured by 
Nitto because they're so well-made

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[RBW] FS: NEW Chainrings - Sugino Salsa Shimano Suntour Sakae more

[David Hallerman]

Hi,

I’ve got a lot of chainrings here. Are you interested in buying some?

All the chainrings listed here are new. Unless o’wise noted, chainrings 
are silver and are flat; ramps/pins and other colors are noted. Most 
chainrings are 110 BCD, with a bunch of 130s, 74s, and a smattering of 
144 BCD rings.


All prices include shipping in the Conus. And we’ll figure some kind of 
discount for multiple purchases.


All questions quickly answered, photos available if you’d like, and all 
offers considered.


Dave
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_*
*__*SETS – DOUBLE – 110 BCD*_
RaceFace (ramps/pins, 48/34 – 110)  =  $75
Sugino Alpina (ramps/pins & black/silver, 50/34 – 110)  =  $75
Sugino Alpina (ramps/pins & black/silver, 50/36 – 110)  =  $75
FSA (ramps/pins & black/silver, 48/36 – 110)  =  $65
FSA (ramps/pins & black/silver, 50/36 – 110)  =  $60

_*SETS – TRIPLE – 110/74 BCD*_
Sugino Supershift Pro (ramps/pins, 46/36/26 – 110/74)  =  $75
Avitar Werx (black, 46/36/24 – 110/74)  =  $40
Vuelta (48/38/26 – 110/74)  =  $40
Shimano SG Hyperdrive  & Avitar (46/36/24 - 110/74)  =  $30
Sakae – 50/38/28  110/74  =  $30

_*SETS – DOUBLE – 130 BCD*_
Suntour (52/42 – 130)  =  $30
Salsa (50/38 – 130)  =  $30
Salsa (52/38 – 130)  =  $30
Vuelta (52/38 - 130)  =  $25

_*SINGLE CHAINRINGS – 110 BCD*_
IRD Triple-Lizer (36 – 110/74)  =  $35
Sakae (50 - 110)  =  $15
Sugino (52 – 110)  =  $15
Suntour/Sakae (38 - 110)  =  $15
Suntour/Sakae (48 - 110)  =  $15
Vuelta SRS (38 – 110)  =  $15
Vuelta (brass color, 48 - 110)  =  $17
Engagement Ring (52 - 110)  =  $15

_*SINGLE CHAINRINGS – 74 BCD*_
Avitar (24 – 74)  =  $14
Campagnolo (30 - 74)  =  $19
Shimano SG (black, 26 - 74)  =  $15
Vuelta (26 - 74)  =  $14
Engagement Ring (28 - 74)  =  $16
Sakae (black, 26 - 74)  =  $16
Sakae (26 - 74)  =  $13
Sakae Platinum (26 - 74)  =  $15
Sakae Ninja (stainless steel, 28 - 74)  =  $14
Sakae Ninja (stainless steel, 24 - 74)  =  $14

_*SINGLE CHAINRINGS – 130 BCD*_
Sakae (38 - 130)  =  $14
Sakae (44 - 130)  =  $14
Sakae (48 - 130)  =  $14
Sakae (50 - 130)  =  $14
Sugino (52 - 130)  =  $14

_*SINGLE CHAINRINGS – 144 BCD*_
Engagement Ring (42 – 144)  =  $16
Sugino Mighty Comp (44 – 144)  =  $22

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Re: [RBW] Re: Widest wide range double chainring setup? How wide is too wide?

[David Hallerman]

I'm fascinated how the double crankset in Shimano's newish gravel group, 
GRX, is 48/31.


I think they should have done 46/31, but still good.

==

On 3/20/20 8:58 PM, Nick Payne wrote:
My gearing seems to have pretty much standardized around using 42/29 
chainrings, mostly on 94BCD cranks, but I also have a couple of pairs 
of Middleburn RS7 cranks using their Duo chainrings in the same sizes. 
For cassettes, I use 11-34 for bikes where I'm not carrying much of a 
load, and 11-40 for bikes where I'm potentially carrying a touring 
load. I find that 42x11 is good for a bit over 50kph down a hill - 
anything more than that, and I'm faster getting into a tuck than to 
continue pedalling.


When I started road racing in the 1970s, the standard top gear on a 
racing bike was 52x13, which is exactly the same gear size as 44x11. 
Riders won the TdF on that - so I get pretty amused when non-racing 
cyclists claim they need a bigger gear than that...


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[RBW] FS - 54 NEW Chainring Sets and Singles - 110 74 130 144 BCDs

[David Hallerman]

Hello,

As the subject line notes, the chainrings listed here are new, never 
been kissed by a chain (except two, as noted). But with 54 chainring 
sets or single rings for sale, that's too much to post.


So you can find info below on the top 5 compact double sets for sale, 
along with a photo link of just those sets: 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/cdZ78NC7ExRZ1dw5A


But more useful, here's a PDF to download that lists all 54 chainring 
sets/singles for sale: https://tinyurl.com/chainrings-2019


If you like some chainrings, tell me which numbers as well as their 
name. And if you like some chainrings, but are not crazy about their 
prices, talk to me. Note: all prices include free shipping in the CONUS.


Let my overbuying become your bargain.

Smiles,

Dave, /who notes that some chainrings for sale have ramps and pins, some 
are flat, many are 110mm BCD or 74mm BCD, some are 130mm or 144mm BCD, 
and several are being sold only as sets, such as compact double pairs or 
classic triples/

*+**
**Hudson Valley NY**
**cyclema...@gmail.com*

_*FIVE OF THE FIFTY-FOUR - PRICES INCLUDE SHIPPING*_
(1)    Sugino Alpina 50/34 black/silver = $75
(2)    Race Face Road 48/34 silver = $80
(3)    FSA Pro Road 48/34 black/silver = $45
(4)    Sugino Alpina 50/36 black/silver = $70
(5)    Vuelta SE Plus 48/34 black/silver = $50

_*THE OTHER FORTY-NINE CHAINRING SETS/SINGLES*_
(6-54)    most priced under $20 or barely above

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[RBW] FS :: 21 Cranks Sugino Suntour Shimano + NEW Used Free

[David Hallerman]

Hello,

Somehow these 21 bicycle cranks have come to live in my home, and now 
they need to travel wide. Photo album is 
here...https://photos.app.goo.gl/HrE2uTyyRaHLFXSh8


If you want just the photos of a specific crank or three (there's lots 
in the album), I'd be happy to get you just those photos. If you like a 
crank, tell me which number, as well as its name. And if you like a 
crank, but are not crazy about its price, talk to me.


Dave, who says if you want some cranks and also need a matching bottom 
bracket there's a good chance he has a NEW one of that around too and 
package discounts are welcomed and speaking of package please accept my 
cross-posting of this offering

*+**
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**cyclema...@gmail.com*

_/Prices include Priority Mail shipping in CONUS/_

_*NEW (all are 170mm)*_

*(1)* Sugino Mighty Tour - 110/74 black = $140
[prime cold forged Sugino beauty; use as compact double or triple]

*(2)* Sugino Mighty Tour - 110/74 silver = $140
[same as #1 above, but now in silver]

*(3)* Shimano Deore XT - 110/74 silver = $90
[also compact road double with 110mm or 113mm bottom bracket]

*(4)* Suntour XC Pro - 110/74 silver = $120
[also compact road double with 110mm or 113mm bottom bracket]

*(5)* Shimano Dura Ace - 52/39 chainrings 130 silver = $135
[Octalink; European sourced with 52-tooth big ring]

*(6)* Sugino XD2 - 110 silver = $65
[cold-forged compact double ready for your choice of chainrings]

*(7)* Cannondale Coda - 44/29 chainrings 94BCD black = $35
[Octalink]

*(8) *General Compact - 110 silver = $20
[takes 110mm bottom bracket]

_*USED (all but two are 170mm)*_

*(9)* Suntour XC Pro - 110/74 silver = $45
*(10)* Shimano Deore XT - Engagement 48/38/26 chainrings - 110/74 silver 
= $60 (low miles)
*(11) *Suntour XC Pro - Sakae Platinum 48/38/26 chainrings 110/74 silver 
= $60

*(12) *Shimano Dura Ace - Shimano 53/39 chainrings 130 silver = $55
*(13)* Sugino GP - 110/74 silver = $25
*(14) *Shimano Ultegra 172.5mm - 130 silver = $30
*(15)* Suntour XC Comp 172.5mm - 110/74 silver = $30 (really XC Pro)
*(16) *Suntour Cyclone - Shimano 53/39 chainrings 130 silver = $35 (low 
miles)

*(17) *Shimano Ultegra - Shimano 52/42/30 chainrings 130/74 silver = $10/$15
*(18)* Shimano 600 (6207) - Sakae Platinum - 110/74 silver = $20
*(19) *Shimano 600 (6207) - Shimano 53/40 chainrings 110/74 silver = $20
*(20) *Suntour Radius - Suntour 52/40 chainrings 130 silver = $10/$15
*(21)* General Compact - 110/74 silver = $10/$15

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[RBW] Re: FS :: 21 Cranks Sugino Suntour Shimano + NEW Used Free

[David Hallerman]

Ooops, I made a mistake. The two Sugino Mighty Tour cranks are 110 BCD 
only, perfect for compact double. But there's no 74 BCD drilling for 
granny rings.


Also, three sold, 18 still available (although the C'Dale Coda has 
garnered much interest so far; probably underpriced).


Dave, who brings the photo album link higher here: 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/HrE2uTyyRaHLFXSh8


On 2/23/19 9:35 PM, David Hallerman wrote:


Hello,

Somehow these 21 bicycle cranks have come to live in my home, and now 
they need to travel wide. Photo album is 
here...https://photos.app.goo.gl/HrE2uTyyRaHLFXSh8


If you want just the photos of a specific crank or three (there's lots 
in the album), I'd be happy to get you just those photos. If you like 
a crank, tell me which number, as well as its name. And if you like a 
crank, but are not crazy about its price, talk to me.


Dave, who says if you want some cranks and also need a matching bottom 
bracket there's a good chance he has a NEW one of that around too and 
package discounts are welcomed and speaking of package please accept 
my cross-posting of this offering

*+**
**Hudson Valley, NY**
**cyclema...@gmail.com*

_/Prices include Priority Mail shipping in CONUS/_

_*NEW (all are 170mm)*_

*(1)* Sugino Mighty Tour - 110 black = $140
[prime cold forged Sugino beauty; use as compact double]

*(2)* Sugino Mighty Tour - 110 silver = $140
[same as #1 above, but now in silver]

*(sold)* Shimano Deore XT - 110/74 silver = $90
[also compact road double with 110mm or 113mm bottom bracket]

*(4)* Suntour XC Pro - 110/74 silver = $120
[also compact road double with 110mm or 113mm bottom bracket]

*(sold)* Shimano Dura Ace - 52/39 chainrings 130 silver = $135
[Octalink; European sourced with 52-tooth big ring]

*(6)* Sugino XD2 - 110 silver = $65
[cold-forged compact double ready for your choice of chainrings]

*(7)* Cannondale Coda - 44/29 chainrings 94BCD black = $35
[Octalink]

*(8) *General Compact - 110 silver = $20
[takes 110mm bottom bracket]

_*USED (all but two are 170mm)*_

*(9)* Suntour XC Pro - 110/74 silver = $45
*(10)* Shimano Deore XT - Engagement 48/38/26 chainrings - 110/74 
silver = $60 (low miles)
*(11) *Suntour XC Pro - Sakae Platinum 48/38/26 chainrings 110/74 
silver = $60

*(12) *Shimano Dura Ace - Shimano 53/39 chainrings 130 silver = $55
*(13)* Sugino GP - 110/74 silver = $25
*(14) *Shimano Ultegra 172.5mm - 130 silver = $30
*(sold)* Suntour XC Comp 172.5mm - 110/74 silver = $30 (really XC Pro)
*(16) *Suntour Cyclone - Shimano 53/39 chainrings 130 silver = $35 
(low miles)
*(17) *Shimano Ultegra - Shimano 52/42/30 chainrings 130/74 silver = 
$10/$15

*(18)* Shimano 600 (6207) - Sakae Platinum - 110/74 silver = $20
*(19) *Shimano 600 (6207) - Shimano 53/40 chainrings 110/74 silver = $20
*(20) *Suntour Radius - Suntour 52/40 chainrings 130 silver = $10/$15
*(21)* General Compact - 110/74 silver = $10/$15

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[RBW] PRICE DROP ||| Re: FS > Brooks, Sugino, Campagnolo, Suntour, Dia-Compe, Salsa, FREE

[David Hallerman]

Good morning,

Some meaningful price drops on the 6 items still available, so consider 
an offer on these bicycle components.
Prices do not include shipping, so send me your zip code if you're 
interested.


(1)  Brooks B.17 Special, black w/copper rails  =  $100 NEW (was $120)
(3)  Campagnolo Record Ergo shifters, carbon 9-speed  =  $210 NEW (no 
cables; was $245)
(4)  Campagnolo Centaur Ergo shifters, grey alloy 10-speed  = $215 NEW 
(no cables; was $255)
(10)  Dia-Compe 986 cantilever brakes silver  =  $22 near-NEW (take off; 
was $25)

(11)  Salsa 50/38 chainring set, 130 BCD  =  $35 NEW (was $45)
(12)  CPI-generic cranks 170 mm 110 BCD  =  FREE (was $10)

You'll find individual pix here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/kpdJmzjucaN9iBcb8

Dave,who really prefers the word "parts" to the word "components"
+
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On 2/3/19 9:22 AM, David Hallerman wrote:


Hello and good day!

A baker's dozen different items available today in my mixed Batch 
Number Three.

Condition noted after price.
Prices do NOT include shipping.
So please send me your zip code if you're interested.

*(1)*  Brooks B.17 Special, black w/copper rails  =  $120 NEW
*(2)*  Sugino AT cranks 170, Vuelta 48/34 chainrings  =  $30 VG
*(3)*  Campagnolo Record Ergo shifters, carbon 9-speed  =  $245 NEW 
(no cables)
*(4)*  Campagnolo Centaur Ergo shifters, grey alloy 10-speed  =  $255 
NEW (no cables)

*(5)*  Suntour XC Pro front derailleur 28.6 clamp  =  $25 EXC
*(6)*  Suntour XC Pro 27.0 seatpost  =  $45 EXC
*(7)*  Stronglight JIS-taper English 110 mm bottom bracket  =  $20 NEW
*(8)*  Stronglight JIS-taper English 113 mm bottom bracket  =  $20 NEW
*(9)*  Suntour Superbe Pro front derailleur 28.6 clamp  =  $35 NEW
*(10)*  Dia-Compe 986 cantilever brakes silver  =  $25 near-NEW (take off)
*(11)*  Salsa 50/38 chainrings, 130 BCD  =  $45 NEW
*(12)*  CPI-generic cranks 170 mm 110 BCD  =  $10 VG
*(13) *Michelin Hi-Lite Cross tires, 700x28  =  FREE

One group photo attached, and you'll find individual pix here:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/kpdJmzjucaN9iBcb8

Dave, who likes to note the plethora of vital bicycle companies both 
now and historically whose names start with the letter "S" such as 
Suntour Shimano Sugino Stronglight Salsa SRAM Soma Schwinn Sidi 
Serotta Sakae Specialized


Hudson Valley NY
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[RBW] Re: FS :: Rivendell Wool Jerseys + One Other

[David Hallerman]

Hello again,

A few people asked me more about sizing.

These nominally size large jerseys fit me well when I was 165 lbs, give 
or take 5 lbs. And I'm 5'10" tall.


By "well" I mean not too tight, not too loose. That meant I could wear 
two or three more layers of wool underneath, or just wear a thin wool 
undershirt, and either way a good fit.


Hope that helps.

Dave, who says one reason he's selling these jerseys is some unexpected 
weight loss that's neither bad nor good

cyclema...@gmail.com

Hudson Valley NY

On 10/26/18 2:28 PM, David Hallerman wrote:


Hi,

Three wool jerseys for sale here. Prices do not include shipping.

Rivendell, green, long-sleeve = $130
Rivendell, blue, short-sleeve = $120
Wiel's, dark green, long-sleeve = $120

All three jerseys have in common:
* size large
* three rear pockets, classic style (no zippers)
* washed only with Kookaburra
* kept in plastic bags to prevent moth holes
* excellent condition, not worn much either
* manufactured by Woolistic
* I'm the original owner of each

One photo attached. Here's an album of all three jersey fronts:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/GyMQJqXMBkk65CXt9

If you need more photos, have any questions, LMK.

Please respond off-list.

Dave
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Re: [RBW] What epoch of Rivster are you?

[David Hallerman]

Yes Bruce, the slightly sloping top tube and 20mm extended head 
tube...that was my Riv Road Standard.


The dropouts were flexible, though. That is, I don't like horizontal 
dropouts all that much, and that's how the Road Standards were being built.


But they weren't so standard that you couldn't ask for tweaks. My tweak 
was semi-vertical dropouts.


Dave, who notes that for a series of reasons that frame had to return 
twice to Waterford for some fixes before it became a great bike



On 9/27/18 7:57 PM, bruce.herbit...@gmail.com wrote:
Probably a good next thread, but does anyone know what the first Riv 
ever sold was? Is it Chris Kosterman's?


Dave: If your bike has a sloping TT and extended HT, it is a Road 
Standard. My early one has a level TT and normal HT and is, as shown 
in RR #2 from early 1995,  just called a Road. Mine has Suntour 
dropouts as well. They went to an Italian (?) supplier later. Btw, the 
new cost for my frameset was $895 plus $20 shipping.


Tailwinds,

Bruce

On Thursday, September 27, 2018, 5:13:31 PM CDT, David Hallerman 
 wrote:



Hey, well considering that I bought one of the first Rivendell road 
bikes, a silver-brazed majesty built by Waterford with Richard Sachs 
lugs, considering at that point the model was called the "Road 
Standard," if my memory serves.


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Re: [RBW] What epoch of Rivster are you?

[David Hallerman]

Hey, well considering that I bought one of the first Rivendell road 
bikes, a silver-brazed majesty built by Waterford with Richard Sachs 
lugs, considering at that point the model was called the "Road 
Standard," if my memory serves.


Considering that the one Riv bike I have left, as categorized in this 
compelling thread, is a first generation Heron, also brazed from 
Reynolds steel tubing by the fellows at Waterford.


Considering all that, I would be deemed a "Proto-Riv" kind of guy. But 
that's only because we're all, at a certain stage with bicycles, just 
like baby ducklings -- and we get imprinted by certain bikes, certain 
designs, certain materials at that time.


H.

Dave
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Hudson Valley NY


On 9/26/18 7:55 PM, Philip Williamson wrote:
Recent discussions make me wonder, what epoch of Rivendell bikes or 
aesthetic most appeals to list members?


Which era do you identify with the most, or like the best?
Is it the era you first encountered Riv in, or did you look back 
through the back catalog and say, "That's the one for me?" Or did you 
arrive early, travel into the future with Rivendell and love best 
what's happening now?


  * Are you a "*Proto-Riv*" aficionado of Longlows, Allrounders, and
Herons?
  * A "*Golden Ager*?" Are Herons, Rambouillets, and Salukis your
favorites?
  * Or are you a "*2TTer,*" a Bombadil, Hunq, and Sam Hillborner?
  * A "*Clemster*" and a Rosco?
  * Have you become a "*New Atlantean*?" A Swoop-a-tuber, Hill-biker,
and a Gus Bootster?

Are these fixed preferences, or have you been most into a different 
era before? Do you have shadings of more than one?  I first 
encountered Riv in the Proto era, looking at the All Rounder. Overall 
I'm a Golden Ager, but the New Atlantean age is looking pretty 
attractive.


Philip
Santa Rosa, CA
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Re: [RBW] Thanks Grant

[David Hallerman]

That blahg post is spot-on except for this divisive description: "we 
accentless Northern Californians"


Come on! As a native of New York City, a place that's been part of the 
USA far longer than Northern California, I know that our voices 
represent the true accentless.


Whaddya gonna do about it?


On 7/4/18 10:41 PM, Grant Petersen wrote:
We are united, independent, and dependent. I love Patrick, who isn't 
gay, as much as I love my brother-in-law who is.
I feel bad for my role in the bickering, but not for saying what I 
said. I'm sad that good people are growling over it, but happy to see 
so many nice comments, too. Everybody's got a point and a position, 
and we're exposing more of ourselves than we have before, me  included 
in that. There have been cancelled orders, big ones, and there may be 
more, that's how it goes and it's no surprise. But there has been some 
good, too, and a few cancelled orders are pale consequences, 
historically, to speaking up or taking a stand on some of these 
things. I'm not being hanged or stoned, thank...goodness.


I'm going to let it run thru mid-day Sunday, and then I'll put up 
something about bicycles---which, as important as they are, are not as 
important as people...although they always go along and get along with 
you.

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directly: gr...@rivbike.com . I'm not going 
to swat things back and forth, I probably won't respond, but I'll read 
every one respectfully.


I'll try to avoid these topics in future BLAHGs, but if I promise to, 
I'd feel too non-independent. If I cross a line that you see and I 
don't, I ask but don't demand that you respond to me directly.


Happy 4rth!

Grant

On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 7:15 PM, Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus 
Bicycles <4824...@gmail.com > wrote:


Joe will you be offering patches for your new fan club?

As a group, I think we've handled this conversation rather well
considering most online decorum.  I'm grateful that the thread was
not shut down.

Happy 4th everyone.

Alex Wirth
Rochester, NY

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Re: [RBW] Thanks Grant

[David Hallerman]

I truly believe that most bike people prefer, when gazing at their 
bike(s), they prefer to gaze more on the bike's right side than its left 
side.



On 7/3/18 4:31 PM, Justin, Oakland wrote:

Uh. I like steel bikes.

Controversially yours and somewhat confused how we got here,
Justin, thread starter

On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 1:28:44 PM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote:

As a group made up of individuals, can we all just agree to let
this thread die? If you just HAVE to post one more time I guess
that’s ok but please (pretty, pretty please) just once more. And
bonus points if you can make it as non-divisive as possible.

I’ll start.

Chris 


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Re: [RBW] Thanks Grant

[David Hallerman]

This administraion is breaking laws about asylum, and damaging lives in 
their breaking of laws.


I'm saying that when the government breaks laws that apply to it, that 
causes grave problems in all of our society -- citizens, immigrants, 
asylum seekers, and the children, grandchildren and other decendants of 
earlier immigrants.


And Patrick, I probably am not trying to convince you of anything. But 
your writing about a "sacrosanct building block of society" and a 
nation's rights fails to acknowlege this official law-breaking.



On 7/3/18 12:15 PM, 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:

Dave, I’m confused by your response, which sounds like you disagree with me and 
are trying to convince me of something. My primary point was how broken the 
immigration system and border enforcement are. If I am reading you correctly, 
we agree the immigration system and border are very broken and in grave need of 
being repairs so they uphold human dignity.

With abandon,
Patrick



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Re: [RBW] Thanks Grant

[David Hallerman]

Way too much grain.

And certain parts of the picture are severely under-developed.


On 7/3/18 10:50 AM, John A. Bennett wrote:
Hey, guys. I hate to hijack the thread, but I've been shooting a lot 
of film lately. Any other film shooters here?


Last weekend was my first time using Ilford's Delta 400. The camera 
store was out of HP5. Developed a roll from Saturday in my basement 
last night. Seems like finer grain than HP5. Maybe more like Kodak's 
TMax?


I'm attaching one shot chosen at random. Thoughts?

John in Portland, Ore.

On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 6:59:16 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:

I don't give a damn what anybody thinks of my "bumbling rhetoric".
You're either on the right side of abducting children or evil.
Your choice. 


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Re: [RBW] Thanks Grant

[David Hallerman]

However, a nation does NOT have the right to break its own laws by 
eliminating many of the immigration-check-in places before the border, 
where individuals and families and families coming to the United States 
of America for asylum are legally allowed to go. Federal law and 
international treaties mandate that the administration consider the 
requests of asylum applicants. It is perfectly legal to come to the 
United States without papers and request asylum. International law 
prohibits the US government from turning away people with legitimate 
humanitarian claims or from sending them back to countries where their 
lives are in danger.


Instead, without the pre-border checkpoints, these individuals and 
families are forced to present themselves to ask for asylum only by 
first crossing the border -- and then they're arrested.


This is a form of bait-and-switch. Think about it. Requesting asylum is 
legal, but the current forces in power have made the legal impossible by 
forcing the people to cross the border before making that request.


Logic and reason say that a "sacrosanct building block of society" is 
for the government to follow its own laws. This government does not, at 
least in this instance. This government, therefore, by breaking the law 
contributes to anarchy.


Dave, who hopes that he and you never have to ask for asylum anywhere or 
become a refugee but just imagine if you and your family had to request 
asylum and how would you want to be treated and please don't say that 
you and your family will NEVER EVER have to request asylum because you 
never ever know



On 7/3/18 10:58 AM, 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:

Joe, I love your passion, but I believe there is more challenge and nuance here 
than you realize and it seems at best disingenuious to put all blame on Trump 
(whatever else a person may think of him) when our immigration laws and border 
have been broken since at least the Reagan era (who granted a path to 
citizenship for illegal immigrants at the time as an attempt to make things 
right and prompt Congress to get its act together).

— Family is the sacrosanct building block of society and parents have 
fundimental rights that no one can take away and the State should alwasy strive 
to uphold these. Among these rights are the rights to be with and educate their 
children.
— A nation has a right and responsibility to have defined borders and control 
them.
— A nation has a right to define what the legal path to citizenship is and a 
responsibility to provide a legal path to citizenship. I believe we have done 
this poorly and I also believe it is on the Congresses of the last four decades 
that we have not upheld human dignity with just immigration laws.
— This in no way justifies it, but I believe children have been seperated from 
the adults accompanying them at the border in very specific circumstances under 
at least the last four presidents, possibly back to Clinton. Why? My take is it 
is an imperfect and bungled attempt to address the challenging situation of 
adults using children for their own benifit in various ways. I don’t know how 
frequent these circumstances are, or how many actualy families have been 
separated, but the fact that four presidents chose the same thing, and 
increased it in some cases, tells me there is something else, of a grave 
nature, going on.
— Trump took action to stop separation of families at the border via executive 
order, using it to attempt to get Congress to pass more just laws. He is 
attempting to get done what the previous four (+?) presidends could not — get 
Congress to address immigration and border issues (you can’t solve one without 
solving the other). So far Congress has balked, on both sides.
— Enflamed rhetoric is verbal violence. Violence in all forms always escalates 
and harms and never heals.
— Logic and reason have stopped being taught in schools for the most part and 
it shows. We are becoming a Facebook nation in how we communicate, with no 
better skills at dialogue, logic, and reason than happen on college dormroom 
door whiteboards.

With abandon,
Patrick



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[RBW] FS ||||| Shimano 8/7-speed chains NIB NOS NEW NINE

[David Hallerman]

Hello, hello, hello,

Here are 9 totally new in box never used never installed never cut 
Shimano chains for 8-speed and 7-speed drivetrains. Each chain is 116 
links long. Each of the 9 chain packages includes 2 Shimano attachment pins.


Speaking of packages, I just don't have the time right now to ship 
individually. So, this is a package deal -- all 9 chains for $275, which 
includes free Priority Mail shipping in the CONUS. (I would appreciate 
it if, in return, you could cover the PayPal fee.)


5 - Shimano HG91 chains (Ultegra/Deore XT level)
2 - Shimano Dura-Ace/XTR chains (CN-7401)
1 - Shimano HG90 chain (essentially the same as the HG91s)
1 - Shimano HG70 chain

Two group linked photos here, more available if needed for these 
rare-to-find-as-totally-new chains.


I'm happy to answer any and all questions.

Dave
/+++
Hudson Valley, NY
cyclem...@verizon.net/


https://photos.app.goo.gl/ncRn9RVxqLG224K7A
https://photos.app.goo.gl/d31ijYDTAvS1D88z8

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Re: [RBW] FS - Brooks B.17 saddles :: Blue & Green :: NEW

[David Hallerman]

Green one? Still available.

Blue one? Sold.

Thanks!


On 9/26/17 8:43 AM, David Hallerman wrote:


Hello,

Two totally new Brooks B.17 saddles for sale here in two colors that 
are difficult to photograph.


*B.17 Standard, blue = $100*
A deep, rich blue. This color is more difficult to photograph than the 
green one.

*
**B.17 Special, green = $135*
Big rivets, copper-colored rails.

Prices include free Priority Mail shipping if you cover the PayPal fee.

A couple of photos here, more available, and questions quickly answered.

Dave, who continues to ride only with B.17 saddles on all of his bikes 
except on one bike

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Hudson Valley, NY


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Re: [RBW] Re: Shipping

[David Hallerman]

Reminds me of my most memorable eBay auction win.

That was for a yellow 1993 Bridgestone RB-1. And the seller lived two blocks 
away from me in Brooklyn (although we had never met).

So, about 15 minutes after the auction ended - early evening - the seller came 
over to my apartment with the bike.

Free shipping too!

> On Feb 21, 2017, at 5:43 PM, dougP  wrote:
> 
> Well, it is Nitto so you know it is a very nice shim.  
> 
> For $300, I'd expect someone to come pedaling up my driveway in about 45 
> minutes.
> 
> dougP
> 
>> On Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 11:57:40 AM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:
>> Thought the group might enjoy this—eBay offered me a choice of shipping 
>> methods for a $15.99 handlebar shim. 
>> 
>> I wonder if anybody has ever taken them up on the expedited shipping?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --Eric Norris
>> campyo...@me.com
>> @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)
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