[RBW] Bilenkey Tandem 4 Sale

[Michael Hechmer]

*The Basics:*

   - Custom, Large, Coupled, Touring Tandem
   - Brazed Steel, Powder Coated English Racing Green
   - Dimensions:
  - Head Tube - 10.5” / 26.5 C
  - Top Tubes - 22.5/57 & 30.5/77.5
  - Seat Tubes - 22.75 / 58  & 17.75/45.5
   - Wheels - White Ind. Hubs & DaVinci V22 Rims  26” with 36 spokes
   - Crank - DaVinci with TA Zypher rings; 48/38/26
   - Casette 9 speed - Shimano Ultegra 12 -32
   - Deraillers - IRD Alpina & Shimano Ultegra
   - Shifters - Shimano Bar End Indexed/Friction
   - Brakes - Paul’s Neo-Retro with Tectro Levers, braise-ons for drum brake
   - Head Set - Chris King, Stem - Nitto
   - Bars - Nitto Noodle & Nitto Albatross
   - Seat Posts Nitto & Cane Creek Thudbuster
   - Tires Panaracer
   - Chains - Connex
   - Kick Stand - Two legs
   - Front & Rear Touring Racks - Nitto, powder coated to match the frame.
   - Fenders - Velo Orange 
   - Saddle & Pedals not included


*Also Available*

   - Two Hard Shell Suitcases
   - Yakima Sidewinder car top carrier


*The Pictures*

https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0oG7HOIlGKhAR1


*The Performance:*

This is a large touring tandem built for strength and stability under 
weight.  It rides beautifully with or without load and is comfortable on 
both dirt and paved surfaces  It is outfitted with top flight equipment 
that will not fail you.  The rear top tube is quite long which affords the 
stoker a more spacious cockpit.  The stays are long enough to accomodate 
large paniers without interfering with the stoker’s heels.  The design 
point was for 2”tires with fenders but currently fitted with 1.75 (1.5 
actual) tires, which is all we could get the last time we replaced them.  
The cranks have three pedal drillings to accomodate a range of leg lengths.


*The Deal:*

$2500 picked up at our home in Westford, VT.  or shipped at cost


Michael

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Re: [RBW] Snapped Clem seat binder bolt

['Michael Kashuba' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Very interesting indeed. About a year after Rivendell built up my orange 60cm Appaloosa, I was on a “Bike Around the Buttes” ride in Northern California and my seat post began gradually slipping down. I tightened it a bit more at a mid-ride rest stop, and it broke in two…. without much torque at all. I was amazed…..Luckily, I was able to “borrow” a less essential but same size bolt from my pannier rack, and everything has been fine the last few years. Is it possible that Rivendell received a bad batch of bolts? Odd….Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 16, 2024, at 9:10 PM, Diana H  wrote:I also snapped the seat binder bolt on my new Platypus. No amount of tightening would keep my post from sliding. I posted about this on Reddit and somebody told me that I needed to grease the threads. When I tried to remove the bolt it snapped. I replaced with a random bolt from a hardware store and used grease. Hasn't slipped again.On Tuesday, April 16, 2024 at 8:50:54 AM UTC-7 Greg Kagay wrote:My greased Roadini binder failed almost immediately with very little torque applied. Seems it was slightly too short for the job. Replaced with this bolt and this nut. The new bolt is ever so slightly long for the application but it works great. The blackish nut is not my preference but I live in the country and was eager to source a robust solution. (And not much of it shows as most of it is hidden inside the seat lug.) Delivered, this was a $30 resolution (which makes me feel foolish); Rivendell could do so much better here.On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 9:20:01 AM UTC-5 mrg...@gmail.com wrote:I have never snapped a binder bolt but FWIW when I had some slipping on my Atlantis post, my LBS spun the inside of the seat tube with a flex hone attachment on their drill and that helped a lot. mike in atx On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 9:08:28 AM UTC-5 Ed Carolipio wrote:I have a bad habit of snapping the original binder bolt when making adjustments for fit. I just keep a bunch spares around and stash one with the tools/spare tube for when I ride.--Ed C.Redondo Beach, CAOn Monday, April 15, 2024 at 6:53:22 AM UTC-7 Justin Kennedy wrote:Same thing happened on my brand new Platypus last year. Seatpost was slipping and twisting and I overtightened it and snapped the bolt. Replaced it with a spare from my bolts tray and it hasn't slipped in almost a year. On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 3:37:36 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:@Joseph -Thank-you. On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 12:24:59 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:The binder bolt snapped because the seatpost was too small. The bolt and post need to be replaced so this doesn't happen again. On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 12:02:33 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:@Joseph -I am referring to a Nitto seat post binder bolt that you suggested to replace the stock one on my Clem. I am seeing from your web link for a Nitto S65 Crystal Fellow Seat Post. ...or am I missing something ?Kim Hetzel.On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 11:54:29 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-s65-crystal-fellow-seat-post-27-2-x-250-11031On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 11:26:28 AM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:@Joseph -Do you have a specific web link for purchase ?  Silver preferably.Kim Hetzel.On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 11:11:18 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:I've come across several 26.8-post Rivs where the stock post actually seemed to be 26.7. If you're using the stocker I'd ditch it for a Nitto. Joe Bernard On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 8:25:39 AM UTC-7 Igor wrote:Agreed, thanks for sharing the information Danny. Per suggestion by Alex W, I also will swap the bolt for a black socket cap instead of stainless. Stronger but no galling..On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 10:39:25 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:@Danny -Very good to know. I thank-you for the information. I think I will grease mine as a precaution. I'm sure that Igor appreciates it, as well. Kim HetzelOn Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 7:22:14 PM UTC-7 Danny wrote:I’ve had that happen on a new Riv before.This is from a Riv newsletter last year:Also, make sure to grease the binder bolts before you tighten them down. They ship to us dry and they have a tendency to gall and not tighten down enough unless they're greased up.-DannyOn Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 9:07 PM i  wrote:I was installing the seatpost on my wife’s new Clem, and could not get the seatpost to stop turning. Eventually I broke the bolt.I remember I had this occur on an old Clem I had as well. 



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[RBW] Re: 5 Boro Bike Tour (was NYC Riv Ride?)

[Michael Morrissey]

Hi,

My wife and I signed up for the tour and will be there! We even payed an 
extra cost to be in the first wave of riders. I'll be riding my mustard 
colored Appaloosa (I might even rock my tweed saddlebag) and my wife will 
be on her extra-small orange Salsa Vaya. I'll be on the lookout for other 
Rivendell riders other than my main man, Eben 
Weiss: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as_9Pj_AD3A

Say hi if you see us! 

Michael


On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 10:05:33 PM UTC-5 velomann wrote:

> The 5 Boro Bike Tour in NYC has been on my bucket list for years, and I 
> decided this year is the year. First Sunday of May (5/5 this year).
> https://www.bike.nyc/events/td-five-boro-bike-tour/
> Registration opened this week, and I signed up.
> I've got my lodging and flight booked as well.
>
> This will be my first trip to NYC since I was a kid, 50 years ago. I won't 
> be bringing my Riv (Bringing the Ritchey Breakaway), but I'll be there for 
> a week, staying in midtown not far from ride start. 
> I'd love to meet up with others while I'm there, get recommendations on 
> where to ride, cheap food, coffee, bike shops, etc.
>
> Anyone else here doing the ride?
>
> Mike M
>

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[RBW] Re: Soliciting opinions: help me pick the right Rivendell

[Michael Morrissey]

I ride an Appaloosa but if I had to pick another Rivendell I would just 
call it a day and buy a Clem. 

In the car world, people joke that Miata is always the answer, and I feel 
here a Clem is always the answer. 

On Friday, April 5, 2024 at 8:43:49 PM UTC-4 Bud Suttree wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>
> Been enjoying these forums for a while now, with my first post I’d like to 
> lean on the immense collective wisdom here and get some help with picking 
> out the right Rivendell model. I’ve done quite a lot of personal research 
> and spoken to Riv at least once but would like to open things up to the 
> group for general discussion. 
>
>
> Short sketch of my problem: I love bicycles, but haven’t enjoyed riding 
> them in a long time. I have quite a few, and they all are unpleasant to 
> ride for one reason or another. My priorities are, in descending order: 
> comfort, performance (perceived), utility, price/aesthetics (tie), 
> performance (actual), and at the end would be the ability to do any 
> outer-boundary/end-of-spectrum type activity, riding across the country or 
> racing crits, etc. My ideal bike would be something that could ride 15-20 
> miles to the trail and then 10-15 more on the trail. And also manage 
> chipotle, beer, and post office runs. 
>
>
> Every time I browse the Riv offerings I become convinced I need a 
> different model. I’m thinking maybe the Atlantis would suit me, but I don’t 
> necessarily love the double top tube, and I’d probably be between the 57 
> and 59. The Appaloosa seems pretty similar, but I’m not crazy about either 
> of the current colors. Can’t say I can tell the difference between that one 
> and the Sam, but I like the Sam aesthetic better. I’m also tempted by the 
> gold Susie/Wolbis, but since I’ll be riding mostly around town, worry that 
> it might not feel as agile as the bikes I’m use to riding do.
>
>
> That’s the short version — would welcome any takes or opinions. 
>
>
> Longer story:
>
>
> Like the rest of you, I love bicycles. A substantial amount of my 
> attention is given to them, day after day, in one way or another. 
> Unfortunately, lately this has not translated into actually riding them 
> very often. It’s a paradoxical state, induced by having too many (project) 
> bikes, none of which I can tolerate to ride for more than half an hour. 
> It’s mostly a comfort issue. FWIW, I am a not unhealthy late 20something 
> male with probably poorish posture from desk-jockeying. I rode an aluminum 
> Cannondale road bike daily for five years, crashed, broke some bones and 
> swore it off for two, then entered this present cycle. 
>
>
> Economic realities necessitate the need to flip bikes and parts to fund 
> the passion. Maybe you think that’s a dirty trade; most are. I’ve had the 
> good fortune to pick up an outrageously rare old school BMX bike for 
> essentially nothing that should cover a very nice Rivendell build, and 
> hopefully obviate the need to engage in as much cycling commerce. 
>
>
> Along the way, I’ve acquired an interesting stable:
>
>- 93 Bridgestone RB-1 and MB-2 
>- Custom 90s Ciocc w/ Columbus EL and Chorus 
>- 93ish lugged Trek 990 
>- 1985 Trek 620 
>
> and a cache of interesting parts, so it’s not been for nothing, but I 
> don’t like riding any of those bikes. Had (still have?) big dreams for the 
> RB-1, but cannot tolerate the reach. Have tried a bunch of stem/saddle 
> options, no luck. Currently building it up w/ a Soma Highway bar and zero 
> setback post, preliminary fit check not promising. Found a crack in the 
> MB’s fork when I was tearing it down and don’t think I want to invest in it 
> without the biplane fork. The Ciocc’s max tire clearance for Corsas is 23 
> rear/25 front. The 990 might be all right, and the 620 too, but both need a 
> ton of work. 
>
>
> I’m tired of projects. Wrenching is fun but riding is better, and it was 
> never my goal to be a collector of anything. So, instead of trying to make 
> all these old bikes “like” the bike that I want, I’m just going to actually 
> go and get what I want and then be done with it for awhile. 
>
>
> Some considerations: 
>
>
> I miss running errands on my bike. I don’t have as much free time as I’d 
> like, but everyone has to go to the grocery store. I also miss long weekend 
> adventure rides and casual group rides. I WFH, so don’t need an actual 
> commuter. I like the idea of an overnight trip, and have most of the gear 
> I’d need to do it. 
>
>
> I have two really great handlebar options: the Soma Highway Ones and Ron’s 
> Orthos. I’ve never spent much of any time on bars that weren’t drops, but 
> think I’m leaning towards the orthos for this project. That said, it would 
> be cool if I could use both. 
>
>
> I want lots of gears. Live in a somewhat hilly town (Nashville) with steep 
> climbs on most of my routes. Getting nearly anywhere usually requires at 
> least some riding on busy streets w/o cycling lanes. 
>
>
> No local Riv dealer 

[RBW] Re: Selling Betty Foy and Ives Gomez

[Michael Baquerizo]

can i ask how tall you are / your PBH? That Yves looks as low as it could 
go, wondering if it would work for me.

On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 2:41:28 PM UTC-4 wpes...@gmail.com wrote:

> [image: IMG_0268.jpeg]Betty found a new home but my Ives Gomez is still 
> available. It’s on a 60 cm frame with top of the line component upgrades 
> including White Industry hubs and bottom bracket, Pal center pull brakes, 
> Bull Moose handle bar, Shimano Ultegra Derailleurs, Nitto front and rear 
> racks. The bike is in very good condition with only minor wear marks. I 
> also have a new spare rim which comes with the bike. If interested please 
> send me a note for more pics and details. 
>
> On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 11:37:16 AM UTC-5 walter peseckas wrote:
>
>> I am selling both bikes which we purchased in 2013. We hate to sell but 
>> in our age biking is no longer possible. The 60 cm Ives Gomez has top of 
>> the line components upgrades including White Industries hubs and bottom 
>> bracket, Paul center pull brakes, Nitto front and rear racks, Bull Moose 
>> handle bar, Shimano Ultegra Derailleurs. The bike is in very good condition 
>> with only very minor paint scratches. The 55cm Betty Foy is in superb as 
>> new condition with a spare set of fenders. If anyone is interested please 
>> let me know. I can send pictures. 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fitz Cycles All Road 56cm 26"/650b Disc Partial Build and Wheels

[Michael Ullmer]

And the Fitz is sold and headed to a new home in CO

On Sunday, March 17, 2024 at 8:44:42 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> I loved it too and if it was about 2cm bigger in both ST and TT I'd be 
> keeping it :-)
>
> On Sunday, March 17, 2024 at 4:23:08 PM UTC-5 Ian A wrote:
>
>> I love this bike and just cannot fathom why it hasn't sold. Handmade 
>> frame, light tubing and disc brakes are a hard combination to find. Anyone 
>> on the fence should not hesitate. 
>>
>>
>> IanA (being careful not to take his own advice) in Kitimat BC.
>> On Sunday, March 17, 2024 at 1:19:19 PM UTC-7 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>
>>> Weekend bump with a couple sale options:
>>>
>>> $1200 shipped with frame/fork/rack/hs/fenders/stems
>>> $1150 shipped with frame/fork/rack/hs/stems
>>> $1075 shipped with frame/fork/rack/stems
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 7:56:33 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>>
>>>> A few nibbles, but no takers.
>>>>
>>>> Another bump and a price drop, $1200 shipped in the US.
>>>>
>>>> Also in the market for an Atlantis or Appaloosa sized for an 88pbh
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, February 29, 2024 at 11:11:57 AM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately not, that front low-rider rack was actually built for my 
>>>>> custom Fitz and I had him add mounts to it so I could use on this frame 
>>>>> as 
>>>>> well. Doesn't mean the new owner couldn't have Fitz make them one though 
>>>>> :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 10:37 AM Michael Morrissey <
>>>>> michaelg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm shocked this beautiful frame hasn't sold yet. The Coleman stove 
>>>>>> green is perfect on this bike. Does it include the custom front rack 
>>>>>> that 
>>>>>> is in the last picture of the Google Photos folder?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>> On Thursday, February 29, 2024 at 10:24:14 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Leap year bump, $1250 shipped in the US
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 21, 2024 at 12:29:08 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Midweek bump and price drop, $1250 plus shipping
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 5:11:27 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bump and a price drop, $1350 plus shipping.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also, in need of a few items for a trade/partial trade:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nitto Marks Rack
>>>>>>>>> 58cm Atlantis
>>>>>>>>> 700c 135mm spaced dynamo wheelset
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 2:38:16 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wheels are sold. Also, I forgot to include that the rear spacing 
>>>>>>>>>> is 135mm.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders - $1400 plus shipping
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 11:09:42 AM UTC-6 Michael 
>>>>>>>>>> Ullmer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is cross-posted from the i-bob list. Hoping to pass along 
>>>>>>>>>>> this frameset and wheels to fund a near-term Spring Break trip for 
>>>>>>>>>>> the fam 
>>>>>>>>>>> down to Mexico. Long-term, this bike's place in the stable will be 
>>>>>>>>>>> replaced 
>>>>>>>>>>> with a properly sized Atlantis or Appaloosa.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is one I never thought I'd get rid of, but I have to admit 
>>>>>>>>>>> it's not the right size and it's not getting much ride time. I 
>>>>>>>>>>> bought t

Re: [RBW] Re: Fitz Cycles All Road 56cm 26"/650b Disc Partial Build and Wheels

[Michael Ullmer]

I loved it too and if it was about 2cm bigger in both ST and TT I'd be 
keeping it :-)

On Sunday, March 17, 2024 at 4:23:08 PM UTC-5 Ian A wrote:

> I love this bike and just cannot fathom why it hasn't sold. Handmade 
> frame, light tubing and disc brakes are a hard combination to find. Anyone 
> on the fence should not hesitate. 
>
>
> IanA (being careful not to take his own advice) in Kitimat BC.
> On Sunday, March 17, 2024 at 1:19:19 PM UTC-7 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> Weekend bump with a couple sale options:
>>
>> $1200 shipped with frame/fork/rack/hs/fenders/stems
>> $1150 shipped with frame/fork/rack/hs/stems
>> $1075 shipped with frame/fork/rack/stems
>>
>> On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 7:56:33 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>
>>> A few nibbles, but no takers.
>>>
>>> Another bump and a price drop, $1200 shipped in the US.
>>>
>>> Also in the market for an Atlantis or Appaloosa sized for an 88pbh
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 29, 2024 at 11:11:57 AM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>>
>>>> Unfortunately not, that front low-rider rack was actually built for my 
>>>> custom Fitz and I had him add mounts to it so I could use on this frame as 
>>>> well. Doesn't mean the new owner couldn't have Fitz make them one though 
>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 10:37 AM Michael Morrissey <
>>>> michaelg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm shocked this beautiful frame hasn't sold yet. The Coleman stove 
>>>>> green is perfect on this bike. Does it include the custom front rack that 
>>>>> is in the last picture of the Google Photos folder?
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael
>>>>> On Thursday, February 29, 2024 at 10:24:14 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Leap year bump, $1250 shipped in the US
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 21, 2024 at 12:29:08 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Midweek bump and price drop, $1250 plus shipping
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 5:11:27 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bump and a price drop, $1350 plus shipping.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, in need of a few items for a trade/partial trade:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nitto Marks Rack
>>>>>>>> 58cm Atlantis
>>>>>>>> 700c 135mm spaced dynamo wheelset
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 2:38:16 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wheels are sold. Also, I forgot to include that the rear spacing 
>>>>>>>>> is 135mm.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders - $1400 plus shipping
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 11:09:42 AM UTC-6 Michael 
>>>>>>>>> Ullmer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is cross-posted from the i-bob list. Hoping to pass along 
>>>>>>>>>> this frameset and wheels to fund a near-term Spring Break trip for 
>>>>>>>>>> the fam 
>>>>>>>>>> down to Mexico. Long-term, this bike's place in the stable will be 
>>>>>>>>>> replaced 
>>>>>>>>>> with a properly sized Atlantis or Appaloosa.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is one I never thought I'd get rid of, but I have to admit 
>>>>>>>>>> it's not the right size and it's not getting much ride time. I 
>>>>>>>>>> bought this 
>>>>>>>>>> from John Fitz, but I'm the second owner. Here's the original 
>>>>>>>>>> color/build (
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/FitzCyclez/posts/958878954200930). I 
>>>>>>>>>> reached out to have him build me a fork similar to the one that was 
>>>>>>>>>> on this 
>>>>>>>>>> bike, but instead he happened to have this frame/fork avail

Re: [RBW] Re: Fitz Cycles All Road 56cm 26"/650b Disc Partial Build and Wheels

[Michael Ullmer]

Weekend bump with a couple sale options:

$1200 shipped with frame/fork/rack/hs/fenders/stems
$1150 shipped with frame/fork/rack/hs/stems
$1075 shipped with frame/fork/rack/stems

On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 7:56:33 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> A few nibbles, but no takers.
>
> Another bump and a price drop, $1200 shipped in the US.
>
> Also in the market for an Atlantis or Appaloosa sized for an 88pbh
>
> On Thursday, February 29, 2024 at 11:11:57 AM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately not, that front low-rider rack was actually built for my 
>> custom Fitz and I had him add mounts to it so I could use on this frame as 
>> well. Doesn't mean the new owner couldn't have Fitz make them one though :-)
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 10:37 AM Michael Morrissey  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm shocked this beautiful frame hasn't sold yet. The Coleman stove 
>>> green is perfect on this bike. Does it include the custom front rack that 
>>> is in the last picture of the Google Photos folder?
>>>
>>> Michael
>>> On Thursday, February 29, 2024 at 10:24:14 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>>
>>>> Leap year bump, $1250 shipped in the US
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, February 21, 2024 at 12:29:08 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Midweek bump and price drop, $1250 plus shipping
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 5:11:27 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bump and a price drop, $1350 plus shipping.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, in need of a few items for a trade/partial trade:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nitto Marks Rack
>>>>>> 58cm Atlantis
>>>>>> 700c 135mm spaced dynamo wheelset
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 2:38:16 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wheels are sold. Also, I forgot to include that the rear spacing is 
>>>>>>> 135mm.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders - $1400 plus shipping
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 11:09:42 AM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is cross-posted from the i-bob list. Hoping to pass along this 
>>>>>>>> frameset and wheels to fund a near-term Spring Break trip for the fam 
>>>>>>>> down 
>>>>>>>> to Mexico. Long-term, this bike's place in the stable will be replaced 
>>>>>>>> with 
>>>>>>>> a properly sized Atlantis or Appaloosa.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is one I never thought I'd get rid of, but I have to admit 
>>>>>>>> it's not the right size and it's not getting much ride time. I bought 
>>>>>>>> this 
>>>>>>>> from John Fitz, but I'm the second owner. Here's the original 
>>>>>>>> color/build (
>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/FitzCyclez/posts/958878954200930). I 
>>>>>>>> reached out to have him build me a fork similar to the one that was on 
>>>>>>>> this 
>>>>>>>> bike, but instead he happened to have this frame/fork available. He 
>>>>>>>> re-powdercoated it for me, built the custom rack and added a bunch of 
>>>>>>>> braze-ons. Here's what's included with the sale:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1) Frame/Fork
>>>>>>>> 2) 1 1/8" Silver Chris King Headset
>>>>>>>> 3) Custom Front SS Rando Rack with integrated light mount and wire 
>>>>>>>> guides
>>>>>>>> 4) Velo Orange 26" 60mm Smooth Fenders with Ruthworks Mudguards
>>>>>>>> 5) Matching Green Powdercoated Truvatic 110mm 26.0 Stem
>>>>>>>> 6) Maroon Powdercoated xxmm Stem 31.8 (this was the previous 
>>>>>>>> powdercoat color)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Frame/Fork Details:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TT - Columbus 28.6 8/5/8
>>>>>>>> DT  - (unknown) 31.8 9/6/9 or 8/5/8
>>>>>>>> ST - Nova 28.6 9/6/1.2
>>>>>>>> SS - 17mm true temper
>>

[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting Issues with my Old Clem

[Michael Morrissey]

Hi Vincent,

That Clem is beautiful, but your shifting issue sounds frustrating. Are you 
running a 9-speed cassette in the back? I had the indexing Sunrace thumbie 
on my Rivendell and performance felt just ok. My vintage Suntour thumb 
shifters from 1983 were better, and now I have a Riv silver thumbie on and 
it's also better. I suggest you buy one Riv silver thumbie and try that 
out. I clearly remember the PDF saying the stock shifters clicked but did 
not index. 

Also, consider that the Altus rear derailleur is a $13 part. Maybe it's 
just not up for your rough rides on the train tracks? I have a silver 
thumbie with the SRAM GX 10 speed rear derailleur shifting a 9-speed 
cassette, and it works perfectly. I highly recommend it. It has a clutch on 
it so you can forget about chain slap and dropped chains. It's available 
for nice prices because the trend in mountain bikes is now 12 speeds. (A 
matching 10 speed click shifter is also available for cheap, but I haven't 
tried it.)

I also have a narrow-wide chainring on the front. Perhaps you should 
consider one. How often are you using the biggest chainring? For me it's 
never (I took it off) because live in a city and commute so I rarely get up 
to speed for longer than 4 minutes. Are you regularly cruising above 15 
MPH? If not, go lower with your gearing. Wolf-Tooth and Stridsland both 
have excellent narrow-wide chainrings that will fit your cranks. Fewer 
moving parts is a nice thing for your bike. 

I hope this helps. Happy riding. 

Michael 


On Wednesday, March 13, 2024 at 11:40:52 PM UTC-4 Vincent Tamer wrote:

> I have an on going issue with my friction shifting setup on my 2016 
> complete Clem.
>
> I believe this will be my third cassette replacement now. Each time the 
> two smallest cogs are damaged/stripped for some reason, so that when I 
> pedal there is some crunching & ghost shifting. I cannot pedal with full 
> force on the first two gears.
>
> I’ve had issues with this since day one and I have a feeling it is due to 
> the 2016 complete clem’s shifting setup even though I’ve had it adjusted 
> and have explained to two different bike technicians.
>
> The shifter setup is odd, Riv even commented on how it was a little 
> strange in the Clem intro Pdf that was floating around for the longest time 
> (cannot find it now). I'm hoping someone knows what I'm talking about!
>
> These suntour shifters are set up in a reverse position and that they have 
> some kind of ratcheting mech in them. The clicks don’t always coincide with 
> a shift and maybe that has created some bad friction shifting form on my 
> part. Outside of that I’m at a loss for why I am having issues with 
> stripped cogs. 
>
> I’m considering switching to an indexed set up even though I don’t want to 
> but before I do, does any one have any wisdom they can shed on this 
> situation? Thank you!
>
> Pics are attached, of the whole bike (for fun) and of the shifter. I'll 
> grab some shots of the gears as well when I can.[image: 
> DSCF7718_sml.jpg][image: 
> shifter.jpg]
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho... stem question

[Michael Monti]

As a huge fan of the old Ritchey force stems, I'm going to say that it is 
very likely that the stems pictured here are designed to accommodate 
cantilever brakes, aka with cable stops.  The clamp diameter being 25.4.  
Also, I have found these stems hold handlebars very well.  The issue with 
these stems is not scratching the bars during install because the steel 
sleeve (the 25.4 part) is a longer length than most single bolt stems 
making it difficult to install anything other than a flat bar.  So, my 
trick for this is to take out the bolt and put it in backwards, starting it 
through the threaded side on the bottom of the sleeve and placing a penny 
in front of the unthreaded side covering it and threading the bolt into the 
penny and with minimal torque the clamp diameter opens up helping to 
prevent any damage to your handlebars during install.  The downside to this 
single bolt stem vs. the faceplater stem is deciding you want to change 
your stem and having to undo one side your beautifully wrapped bars.

On Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 10:41:39 AM UTC-7 El Sapo wrote:

>
> Are those stems with the cable stops 26mm clamp?
>
>
> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 3:43:41 PM UTC-7 Jordan Rosenblum wrote:
>
>> Not unlike other folks, I found the width of the Ortho's demanded a 
>> longer stem than I use with Bosco and Tosco bars. Another option that I 
>> think sits somewhere between a face-plater and other single bolt stems are 
>> the Ritchey Force made by Nitto stems of the 90's, which you can 
>> occasionally find in even longer lengths. They are steel with a single 
>> bolt—and very pretty. The downside is that they don't have a ton of rise. 
>> As the poster above mentions, I have successfully used a Ritchey 25.4 clamp 
>> diameter stem with the 26.0 Ortho's, which were very secure—though I don't 
>> presume any knowledge of whether this is long-term safe. 
>>
>> I saw this post just as I was prepping a for-sale post of similar stems 
>> on another forum. If Chris or other folks are interested, the following are 
>> up for grabs, I am going to create a new post so that I don't derail the 
>> thread. These include a 120mm 25.4 faceplate stem, Ritchey 25.4 stems in 
>> 150 and 170mm(),  and a Ritchey 135mm, 26.0 (might be what you're 
>> looking for). Regardless, if you don't need a long steering column, I 
>> highly recommend the Ritchey Force stems if you can scrounge up the size 
>> that would work for you.
>>
>> Jordan in Portland, Oregon
>>
>> [image: IMG_6005.jpg]
>> [image: IMG_6011.jpg]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 1:39:02 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> For what it is worth Ron used 25.4 clamp size stems and claims & claims 
>>> they work great. Got to spread that clamp I guess.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2024, at 12:09 PM, El Sapo  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> Wish I would have understood the issues with the 26 mm handlebar clamp 
>>> prior to purchasing the Ortho Bar. No megusta.The pics posted by iamKeith 
>>> don’t show that his hair, beard, and hip vibe are much greater riding the 
>>> bike with ortho bars.
>>> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 7:50:27 AM UTC-7 Chris K wrote:
>>>
 Thank you all for the pics and advice! Very helpful.

 I'm putting these bars on a 1985 Trek 870. As Riv says on their 
 cardboard geo charts "don't obsess", but geometrically this old frame is 
 not terribly far off some Riv models, setting aside, of course, bb drop 
 and 
 stack (1985 Trek 870: 21.8" frame, 71º hta, 71.5º sta, 58.0 tt, 48.5 cs, 
 5.0 drop, 52.7 stack, 40.6 reach).

 My current set-up is Choco bars and an 8cm Dirt Drop. The height feels 
 fine, just slightly above saddle height, and the reach isn't bad either 
 but 
 could be ~1" longer. I'm fairly upright but can lean in and grip forward 
 as 
 needed. I just like the idea of more width and more flare.

 Are these details helpful? I'm maybe leaning toward the 135mm 
 Faceplater based on your replies, but that does seem long!
 On Sunday, March 10, 2024 at 5:48:02 PM UTC-6 Dan wrote:

> [image: IMG_9267.jpeg]I’ve got these bars lined up for my Appaloosa 
> build. 
> My local bike shop had a NOS Velo Orange Grand Cru stem in 120mm that 
> looks pretty perfect. It’s 26.0, and having no rise should be slightly 
> longer in reality than its length number suggests. I’m hoping that the 
> wider clamp section will help it to grip the bars well too, despite the 
> single bolt. 
>
>
> On Monday 11 March 2024 at 03:33:24 UTC+10:30 Chris K wrote:
>
>> Hey all, I've got some Ortho Bars in my cart and looking for stem 
>> advice from those who use this bar. Obv there are multiple fit and frame 
>> factors that play into something like this, but curious what people are 
>> generally going with. Here are the options I'm deciding between:
>>
>> - Faceplater 110mm
>> - 

Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2024

[Michael Morrissey]

Heron Touring 
55cm
$7000
Walled Lake, Michigan
Rare rare rare parts like Titanium Chris King headset, Nitto racks, and 
full Campagnolo...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/176156925449?itmmeta=01HRQFP37XW2ZW9W57MX91XV8H=item2903c55e09:g:1-QAAOSwlT9le1Vr=enc%3AAQAI4A7jbJYmJLb0qhGidg8sdvoie5vcUpIvYrS%2BSMvrLJLvPiSDvKpjMsaHlJTCd1soc%2BS7lyI3DhBCJIMPjYbsw%2Bz2jx3FF1A8HaYOsrSGCGDojnJMNqrJC9m0GJvRkaVV7ejS4wIjNmkGPkl5PLpOEQlbXY8ub8%2FhPJelndP333HN%2B5YXfIBsGZBcK%2BedK1MLmQWY7kHqX4c4AzxDVzG%2B1rJVrllsTotNUBw2pKEhm%2BQDzzEV4sTfCquOQ0jScQhSElZQaXk3KjAGccNhRMGhT54kCgPjyFiebEPpJtvqbTfN%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4C02O_FYw

On Sunday, March 3, 2024 at 5:36:38 PM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Roadini
> 57cm
> 2000
> Emeryville, CA
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/emeryville-rivendell-leo-roadini/7720529232.html
>

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[RBW] Re: Revisiting the Nitto 52f Basket Rack

[Michael Morrissey]

Hi Leah,

Your Platypus is going to be amazing. I advocate that you get the Velo 
Orange steering damper.

However, to install it you are going to need to reroute your cables on the 
downtube. Here's what you need for that, which allows you to run full 
length outer housing. I have these for my rear brake on my Rivendell and 
they work great. As a bonus, you can get cool cable outers in a contrasting 
color (try Sim Works or Velo Orange for these): 
https://www.amazon.com/ZYAMY-Bicycle-Hydraulic-Housing-Clamps/dp/B095P4GPQZ

The steerstopper is a cool farkle (fancy accessory really kewl likely 
expensive), but it's a $100 solution to a $10 problem. Try one of these on 
your front brake lever first as a parking brake:
https://www.amazon.com/Nite-Ize-Original-Reusable-Assorted/dp/B00SHBNE8E/ref=asc_df_B00SHBNE8E/?tag=hyprod-20=df0=19807628==g=15513276014631186794c===9067609=pla-318105899700=1=CjwKCAjw17qvBhBrEiwA1rU9w2QBemfat-bZ6llmXU4aAVZxoNtAa1OXdctlHdbXqGK7DcyUwTEkvxoC9MkQAvD_BwE

Michael
On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 11:22:42 AM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> @Tom,
> Thank-you for your information. I appreciate it.  
>
> Kim Hetzel.
>
> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 7:52:33 AM UTC-7 Tom Horton wrote:
>
>> kim, re the steerstopper on a clem L, I've had one on a clem L 64 for a 
>> few years and works fineI don't load the front basket with bricks or 
>> anything ultra heavy, but load of groceries, books, etc...no 
>> problemsthe steerstopper guy wasn't sure it would work and even offered 
>> to make a custom, longer version of the steerstopper; but the regular one 
>> has been fine for me. you need to snug the receiver part up tight (but 
>> beware, you can strip the threads if you get too exuberant).  I'd recommend 
>> it for a clem L; also have them on a few other front basketed rivs, all 
>> good.
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, March 10, 2024 at 12:34:26 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> [image: IMG_5598.jpeg][image: IMG_5582.jpeg]Hi Friends,
>>>
>>> I’ve had a Nitto Basket Rack from Rivendell for a few years. I think it 
>>> looks awesome, it’s dead useful, but it annoyed me that it was heavy and 
>>> made my bars swing around on my mermaid Platy. But as I plan the build for 
>>> my 50 cm purple Platy (which is taking a million years) I am considering 
>>> putting the basket rack back into service. It pains me to see it sitting, 
>>> and it’s so pretty and unique that I just want to give it another try. 
>>> Maybe the 650b wheels will be less floppy with this rack? Maybe the 
>>> smaller, lighter bike won’t seem as penalized by the heft of this rack? It 
>>> would be such an easy experiment if it wasn’t for the dyno light/wiring 
>>> that is affected by the decision. It’s not a matter of simply pulling the 
>>> rack, because wire length, light mount, etc are affected and will not be an 
>>> easy switch. My shop hates soldering and I certainly can’t do it. 
>>>
>>> I had started a thread long ago about this and a lot of people reported 
>>> similar experiences. Now that some more years have gone by, I’m curious if 
>>> opinions have changed, or if more people have these racks and would offer 
>>> their opinions. There isn’t much in the way of reviews to read online. 
>>> Maybe some here would offer theirs. If more folks are trying and loving 
>>> their Nitto Basket Racks, I’ll be likely to install mine. 
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, this beautiful Platypus sits in my living room on the shelf, 
>>> waiting for its parts to return from the anodizer. And, there’s fresh snow 
>>> on the ground. But talking bikes will get me through!
>>> Leah
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fitz Cycles All Road 56cm 26"/650b Disc Partial Build and Wheels

[Michael Ullmer]

A few nibbles, but no takers.

Another bump and a price drop, $1200 shipped in the US.

Also in the market for an Atlantis or Appaloosa sized for an 88pbh

On Thursday, February 29, 2024 at 11:11:57 AM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Unfortunately not, that front low-rider rack was actually built for my 
> custom Fitz and I had him add mounts to it so I could use on this frame as 
> well. Doesn't mean the new owner couldn't have Fitz make them one though :-)
>
> On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 10:37 AM Michael Morrissey  
> wrote:
>
>> I'm shocked this beautiful frame hasn't sold yet. The Coleman stove green 
>> is perfect on this bike. Does it include the custom front rack that is in 
>> the last picture of the Google Photos folder?
>>
>> Michael
>> On Thursday, February 29, 2024 at 10:24:14 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>
>>> Leap year bump, $1250 shipped in the US
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 21, 2024 at 12:29:08 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Midweek bump and price drop, $1250 plus shipping
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 5:11:27 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bump and a price drop, $1350 plus shipping.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, in need of a few items for a trade/partial trade:
>>>>>
>>>>> Nitto Marks Rack
>>>>> 58cm Atlantis
>>>>> 700c 135mm spaced dynamo wheelset
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 2:38:16 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Wheels are sold. Also, I forgot to include that the rear spacing is 
>>>>>> 135mm.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders - $1400 plus shipping
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 11:09:42 AM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is cross-posted from the i-bob list. Hoping to pass along this 
>>>>>>> frameset and wheels to fund a near-term Spring Break trip for the fam 
>>>>>>> down 
>>>>>>> to Mexico. Long-term, this bike's place in the stable will be replaced 
>>>>>>> with 
>>>>>>> a properly sized Atlantis or Appaloosa.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is one I never thought I'd get rid of, but I have to admit it's 
>>>>>>> not the right size and it's not getting much ride time. I bought this 
>>>>>>> from 
>>>>>>> John Fitz, but I'm the second owner. Here's the original color/build (
>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/FitzCyclez/posts/958878954200930). I 
>>>>>>> reached out to have him build me a fork similar to the one that was on 
>>>>>>> this 
>>>>>>> bike, but instead he happened to have this frame/fork available. He 
>>>>>>> re-powdercoated it for me, built the custom rack and added a bunch of 
>>>>>>> braze-ons. Here's what's included with the sale:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) Frame/Fork
>>>>>>> 2) 1 1/8" Silver Chris King Headset
>>>>>>> 3) Custom Front SS Rando Rack with integrated light mount and wire 
>>>>>>> guides
>>>>>>> 4) Velo Orange 26" 60mm Smooth Fenders with Ruthworks Mudguards
>>>>>>> 5) Matching Green Powdercoated Truvatic 110mm 26.0 Stem
>>>>>>> 6) Maroon Powdercoated xxmm Stem 31.8 (this was the previous 
>>>>>>> powdercoat color)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Frame/Fork Details:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TT - Columbus 28.6 8/5/8
>>>>>>> DT  - (unknown) 31.8 9/6/9 or 8/5/8
>>>>>>> ST - Nova 28.6 9/6/1.2
>>>>>>> SS - 17mm true temper
>>>>>>> BB - 68mm BSA Paragon
>>>>>>> Paragon Dropouts front and back
>>>>>>> Fork Blades - Disc specific Nova fork blades 1.1 wall thickness
>>>>>>> Fork Crown - Pacenti MTB Fork Crown
>>>>>>> Braze-ons - lighting guides on fork blade and under downtube, three 
>>>>>>> bottle bosses, pump pegs on non-drive seatstay, low-rider front rack 
>>>>>>> mounts, 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Takes a 27.2 seatpost, 28.6 front derailleur. Built around 160mm 
&

Re: [RBW] Re: Feeler: ISO extra-small 26er?

[Michael Morrissey]

The rims are DT Swiss X430 Disc. The hubs are SRAM (later Salsas came with 
anodized Formula hubs stock!) and the tires are 26" x 1" Ritchey Tom Slicks.

M


On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 9:43:10 AM UTC-5 wboe...@gmail.com wrote:

> I'm positive those were DT mtb rims.  I don't believe DT (or anyone?) ever 
> made a rim for disc road application.  With the move to wide rims, though, 
> "vintage" DT mtb rims like these look like modern "road" rims.
>
> Will
>
> On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 9:09 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> Nice bike! Curious about the rims: I see that they're DTs but I can't 
>> read the model. I do see that they are made for disc brakes. Are these 
>> mountain bike rims or road rims? I'm tickled to see that the Tom Slick is 
>> still available, but then those DT rims must be pretty narrow and therefore 
>> -- ? -- 26" road rims ...?
>>
>> Patrick Moore, who rides 26" road wheels even tho' he also rides a 
>> theoretical level tt 60 c-c frame.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 12:57 PM Michael Morrissey  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> [image: IMG_8082.JPG]
>>> [image: Screenshot 2024-03-06 at 2.39.47 PM.png]
>>> Thanks again to everyone on this list for helping me pick out a bike for 
>>> my wife! This is what I came up with thanks to Coal Bee Rye Anne's 
>>> suggestion (I had no idea they made a 26" version)! I bought a 2012 
>>> Salsa Vaya 50cm with 26" wheels. It fits her great. Not only was she 
>>> completely surprised, but she did that thing where someone test rides a 
>>> bike and they disappear long enough for you to seriously worry. She went 
>>> around the block. She has never had drop bars, disc brakes or a steel 
>>> frame. She reported that it was quicker and smoother riding off pavement 
>>> than she expected. This bike is so nice. I also looked at the Bike Insights 
>>> page and the geometry isn't far off of the 26" 46cm small Appaloosa. I 
>>> didn't get the best bargain price, but I found it at The Pro's Closet and 
>>> they had great service, packed up the bike nicely, and even through in a 
>>> little torque wrench. The listing is still up if you want to see the specs 
>>> and how much I paid. 
>>>
>>> The contrarian in me also appreciates that this bike has no Shimano 
>>> parts. It has a full SRAM kit, and since it is from 2012 I consider it 
>>> adequately modern but not annoyingly so. I might convert it to 1x10 for 
>>> simplicity's sake. She wanted a blue bike, so I got blue pedals and I might 
>>> get some more blue parts (anyone holding blue Chris King disc hubs?) for 
>>> some added flair. 
>>>
>>> Long live the 26" wheel,
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 9:07:42 AM UTC-5 Michael Morrissey 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>
>>>> I know there is a lot of bike knowledge on this board, but I was blown 
>>>> away by the detail and thoughtful responses I got to my question. Thank 
>>>> you 
>>>> so much! I bought one of the bikes someone suggested from the above posts! 
>>>> I got it shipped to my friend's house, and now I'm waiting a few weeks to 
>>>> give it to my wife for her birthday. I'll post her reaction in a few weeks 
>>>> when her birthday arrives. I hope it fits her and she likes it, and it 
>>>> softens her up to let me buy more bikes.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 10:21:51 AM UTC-5 mgst...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have a project that needs a little more work to finish it 
>>>>> up…..vintage 531 tubed gitane, originally drop barred 700c, now with 650b 
>>>>> wheels; built it up for my wife as a city bike when we lived between 2 
>>>>> places, but now back to one rural life, she rides her OG Glorius, but 
>>>>> mostly we’re tandeming.  The Gitane needs its cockpit sorted out, right 
>>>>> now 
>>>>> it’s a 1x9 with flat bars. It’s a very nice bike, she was quite fast on 
>>>>> it. 
>>>>> I; will post or send photos this eve, am in transit, and just noticing 
>>>>> this 
>>>>> late to the party
>>>>>
>>>>> Also i have a Vitus frameset, yes! that one!  Which she also rode, and 
>>>>>

[RBW] Re: Feeler: ISO extra-small 26er?

[Michael Morrissey]

Oops I meant they THREW in a little torque wrench. LOL. 

On Wednesday, March 6, 2024 at 2:57:25 PM UTC-5 Michael Morrissey wrote:

> [image: IMG_8082.JPG]
> [image: Screenshot 2024-03-06 at 2.39.47 PM.png]
> Thanks again to everyone on this list for helping me pick out a bike for 
> my wife! This is what I came up with thanks to Coal Bee Rye Anne's 
> suggestion (I had no idea they made a 26" version)! I bought a 2012 Salsa 
> Vaya 50cm with 26" wheels. It fits her great. Not only was she completely 
> surprised, but she did that thing where someone test rides a bike and they 
> disappear long enough for you to seriously worry. She went around the 
> block. She has never had drop bars, disc brakes or a steel frame. She 
> reported that it was quicker and smoother riding off pavement than she 
> expected. This bike is so nice. I also looked at the Bike Insights page and 
> the geometry isn't far off of the 26" 46cm small Appaloosa. I didn't get 
> the best bargain price, but I found it at The Pro's Closet and they had 
> great service, packed up the bike nicely, and even through in a little 
> torque wrench. The listing is still up if you want to see the specs and how 
> much I paid. 
>
> The contrarian in me also appreciates that this bike has no Shimano parts. 
> It has a full SRAM kit, and since it is from 2012 I consider it adequately 
> modern but not annoyingly so. I might convert it to 1x10 for simplicity's 
> sake. She wanted a blue bike, so I got blue pedals and I might get some 
> more blue parts (anyone holding blue Chris King disc hubs?) for some added 
> flair. 
>
> Long live the 26" wheel,
>
> Michael
>
>
> On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 9:07:42 AM UTC-5 Michael Morrissey wrote:
>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> I know there is a lot of bike knowledge on this board, but I was blown 
>> away by the detail and thoughtful responses I got to my question. Thank you 
>> so much! I bought one of the bikes someone suggested from the above posts! 
>> I got it shipped to my friend's house, and now I'm waiting a few weeks to 
>> give it to my wife for her birthday. I'll post her reaction in a few weeks 
>> when her birthday arrives. I hope it fits her and she likes it, and it 
>> softens her up to let me buy more bikes.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 10:21:51 AM UTC-5 mgst...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I have a project that needs a little more work to finish it up…..vintage 
>>> 531 tubed gitane, originally drop barred 700c, now with 650b wheels; built 
>>> it up for my wife as a city bike when we lived between 2 places, but now 
>>> back to one rural life, she rides her OG Glorius, but mostly we’re 
>>> tandeming.  The Gitane needs its cockpit sorted out, right now it’s a 1x9 
>>> with flat bars. It’s a very nice bike, she was quite fast on it. I; will 
>>> post or send photos this eve, am in transit, and just noticing this late to 
>>> the party
>>>
>>> Also i have a Vitus frameset, yes! that one!  Which she also rode, and 
>>> it was a light fast road experience. 
>>>
>>> They’re both fit my wife who is short of leg…we call it, ‘well endowed 
>>> in the torso’. 
>>>
>>> Ron in Western Mass 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 12:46:08 PM UTC-5 Michael Morrissey 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>
>>>> I'm thinking about getting a new bike for my wife. Currently, she has a 
>>>> Trek FX. She likes it a lot, but I can't help but think it doesn't fit her 
>>>> right. She is 5 feet tall, yet the bike has 700x35 tires. The frame is 
>>>> small but I think it's crazy to have an extra-small bike with the biggest 
>>>> wheel size. Google "Trek FX 13 inch" and look at this ridiculously 
>>>> proportioned bicycle. It looks like a penny-farthing.
>>>>
>>>> I think she would be much more comfortable on a steel 26" wheeled bike. 
>>>> I especially like it because I already own 3 vintage 26" mountain bikes as 
>>>> parts sources. She has expressed interest in getting a lighter bike, more 
>>>> roadish, with drop bars. She really likes the color blue, so I want to get 
>>>> her a blue bike. I spoke with a local custom builder, who loved the idea 
>>>> and quoted me $1800 for a custom frame. 
>>>>
>>>> I've got an eBay notification going for the Surly Long Haul Trucker in 
>>>> extra-small 42cm. This would check all my boxes. 
>>>>
&

[RBW] Re: Fitz Cycles All Road 56cm 26"/650b Disc Partial Build and Wheels

[Michael Morrissey]

I'm shocked this beautiful frame hasn't sold yet. The Coleman stove green 
is perfect on this bike. Does it include the custom front rack that is in 
the last picture of the Google Photos folder?

Michael
On Thursday, February 29, 2024 at 10:24:14 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Leap year bump, $1250 shipped in the US
>
> On Wednesday, February 21, 2024 at 12:29:08 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> Midweek bump and price drop, $1250 plus shipping
>>
>> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 5:11:27 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>
>>> Bump and a price drop, $1350 plus shipping.
>>>
>>> Also, in need of a few items for a trade/partial trade:
>>>
>>> Nitto Marks Rack
>>> 58cm Atlantis
>>> 700c 135mm spaced dynamo wheelset
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 2:38:16 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wheels are sold. Also, I forgot to include that the rear spacing is 
>>>> 135mm.
>>>>
>>>> Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders - $1400 plus shipping
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 11:09:42 AM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This is cross-posted from the i-bob list. Hoping to pass along this 
>>>>> frameset and wheels to fund a near-term Spring Break trip for the fam 
>>>>> down 
>>>>> to Mexico. Long-term, this bike's place in the stable will be replaced 
>>>>> with 
>>>>> a properly sized Atlantis or Appaloosa.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is one I never thought I'd get rid of, but I have to admit it's 
>>>>> not the right size and it's not getting much ride time. I bought this 
>>>>> from 
>>>>> John Fitz, but I'm the second owner. Here's the original color/build (
>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/FitzCyclez/posts/958878954200930). I reached 
>>>>> out to have him build me a fork similar to the one that was on this bike, 
>>>>> but instead he happened to have this frame/fork available. He 
>>>>> re-powdercoated it for me, built the custom rack and added a bunch of 
>>>>> braze-ons. Here's what's included with the sale:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Frame/Fork
>>>>> 2) 1 1/8" Silver Chris King Headset
>>>>> 3) Custom Front SS Rando Rack with integrated light mount and wire 
>>>>> guides
>>>>> 4) Velo Orange 26" 60mm Smooth Fenders with Ruthworks Mudguards
>>>>> 5) Matching Green Powdercoated Truvatic 110mm 26.0 Stem
>>>>> 6) Maroon Powdercoated xxmm Stem 31.8 (this was the previous 
>>>>> powdercoat color)
>>>>>
>>>>> Frame/Fork Details:
>>>>>
>>>>> TT - Columbus 28.6 8/5/8
>>>>> DT  - (unknown) 31.8 9/6/9 or 8/5/8
>>>>> ST - Nova 28.6 9/6/1.2
>>>>> SS - 17mm true temper
>>>>> BB - 68mm BSA Paragon
>>>>> Paragon Dropouts front and back
>>>>> Fork Blades - Disc specific Nova fork blades 1.1 wall thickness
>>>>> Fork Crown - Pacenti MTB Fork Crown
>>>>> Braze-ons - lighting guides on fork blade and under downtube, three 
>>>>> bottle bosses, pump pegs on non-drive seatstay, low-rider front rack 
>>>>> mounts, 
>>>>>
>>>>> Takes a 27.2 seatpost, 28.6 front derailleur. Built around 160mm 
>>>>> rotors front/rear. It clears Compass/Rene Herse Rat Trap Pass 2.3" Tires 
>>>>> easily. I never ran with 650b, but was told it would do 650bx48 just 
>>>>> fine. 
>>>>> I've used this as a drop-bar enduro all-road and an upright basket 
>>>>> cruiser 
>>>>> with Nitto Albatross bars. It handles great with a rear rack and big 
>>>>> saddlebag (I used a large Sackville). 
>>>>>
>>>>> Frame is in great shape, all threads clean and no dents/dings. Never 
>>>>> been crashed. The powder coat is probably 8/10. There's some worn away on 
>>>>> the drive side chainstay, and the non-drive side inside chainstay from 
>>>>> the 
>>>>> disc rubbing. There's a few other spots where the powder coat has been 
>>>>> rubbed away, but overall pretty good.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wheels:
>>>>>
>>>>> 26" Disc 28H Nextie 26" i30 carbon rims laced to SP PD-8 front, 
>>>>> BikeHubStore BX106R rear, using silver Sapim Laser spokes & nipples. Rims 
>>>>> are true and all spokes are in good tension. Come with Rene Herse Rat 
>>>>> Trap 
>>>>> Pass 2.3" Tires set up tubeless. Tires have 1000+ miles on them, but 
>>>>> treads 
>>>>> are in good shape. Deore XT Skewers. 160mm rotors, 6-bolt front, 
>>>>> centerlock 
>>>>> rear.
>>>>>
>>>>> Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders/Wheels - $1650 plus shipping via 
>>>>> Bikeflights/Pirateship
>>>>>
>>>>> Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders - $1400 plus shipping
>>>>>
>>>>> Wheels Only - $350 plus shipping
>>>>>
>>>>> Pics and a couple past build configurations here: 
>>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/uzfJcaTh9UCcpFV8A
>>>>>
>>>>

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[RBW] Re: Fitz Cycles All Road 56cm 26"/650b Disc Partial Build and Wheels

[Michael Ullmer]

Leap year bump, $1250 shipped in the US

On Wednesday, February 21, 2024 at 12:29:08 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Midweek bump and price drop, $1250 plus shipping
>
> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 5:11:27 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> Bump and a price drop, $1350 plus shipping.
>>
>> Also, in need of a few items for a trade/partial trade:
>>
>> Nitto Marks Rack
>> 58cm Atlantis
>> 700c 135mm spaced dynamo wheelset
>>
>> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 2:38:16 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>
>>> Wheels are sold. Also, I forgot to include that the rear spacing is 
>>> 135mm.
>>>
>>> Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders - $1400 plus shipping
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 11:09:42 AM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is cross-posted from the i-bob list. Hoping to pass along this 
>>>> frameset and wheels to fund a near-term Spring Break trip for the fam down 
>>>> to Mexico. Long-term, this bike's place in the stable will be replaced 
>>>> with 
>>>> a properly sized Atlantis or Appaloosa.
>>>>
>>>> This is one I never thought I'd get rid of, but I have to admit it's 
>>>> not the right size and it's not getting much ride time. I bought this from 
>>>> John Fitz, but I'm the second owner. Here's the original color/build (
>>>> https://www.facebook.com/FitzCyclez/posts/958878954200930). I reached 
>>>> out to have him build me a fork similar to the one that was on this bike, 
>>>> but instead he happened to have this frame/fork available. He 
>>>> re-powdercoated it for me, built the custom rack and added a bunch of 
>>>> braze-ons. Here's what's included with the sale:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Frame/Fork
>>>> 2) 1 1/8" Silver Chris King Headset
>>>> 3) Custom Front SS Rando Rack with integrated light mount and wire 
>>>> guides
>>>> 4) Velo Orange 26" 60mm Smooth Fenders with Ruthworks Mudguards
>>>> 5) Matching Green Powdercoated Truvatic 110mm 26.0 Stem
>>>> 6) Maroon Powdercoated xxmm Stem 31.8 (this was the previous powdercoat 
>>>> color)
>>>>
>>>> Frame/Fork Details:
>>>>
>>>> TT - Columbus 28.6 8/5/8
>>>> DT  - (unknown) 31.8 9/6/9 or 8/5/8
>>>> ST - Nova 28.6 9/6/1.2
>>>> SS - 17mm true temper
>>>> BB - 68mm BSA Paragon
>>>> Paragon Dropouts front and back
>>>> Fork Blades - Disc specific Nova fork blades 1.1 wall thickness
>>>> Fork Crown - Pacenti MTB Fork Crown
>>>> Braze-ons - lighting guides on fork blade and under downtube, three 
>>>> bottle bosses, pump pegs on non-drive seatstay, low-rider front rack 
>>>> mounts, 
>>>>
>>>> Takes a 27.2 seatpost, 28.6 front derailleur. Built around 160mm rotors 
>>>> front/rear. It clears Compass/Rene Herse Rat Trap Pass 2.3" Tires easily. 
>>>> I 
>>>> never ran with 650b, but was told it would do 650bx48 just fine. I've used 
>>>> this as a drop-bar enduro all-road and an upright basket cruiser with 
>>>> Nitto 
>>>> Albatross bars. It handles great with a rear rack and big saddlebag (I 
>>>> used 
>>>> a large Sackville). 
>>>>
>>>> Frame is in great shape, all threads clean and no dents/dings. Never 
>>>> been crashed. The powder coat is probably 8/10. There's some worn away on 
>>>> the drive side chainstay, and the non-drive side inside chainstay from the 
>>>> disc rubbing. There's a few other spots where the powder coat has been 
>>>> rubbed away, but overall pretty good.
>>>>
>>>> Wheels:
>>>>
>>>> 26" Disc 28H Nextie 26" i30 carbon rims laced to SP PD-8 front, 
>>>> BikeHubStore BX106R rear, using silver Sapim Laser spokes & nipples. Rims 
>>>> are true and all spokes are in good tension. Come with Rene Herse Rat Trap 
>>>> Pass 2.3" Tires set up tubeless. Tires have 1000+ miles on them, but 
>>>> treads 
>>>> are in good shape. Deore XT Skewers. 160mm rotors, 6-bolt front, 
>>>> centerlock 
>>>> rear.
>>>>
>>>> Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders/Wheels - $1650 plus shipping via 
>>>> Bikeflights/Pirateship
>>>>
>>>> Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders - $1400 plus shipping
>>>>
>>>> Wheels Only - $350 plus shipping
>>>>
>>>> Pics and a couple past build configurations here: 
>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/uzfJcaTh9UCcpFV8A
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Saddlebag Grip R50

[Michael Ullmer]

Sorry to hear it's been discontinued! A list member came through and I'm 
all set. I see that Ben's Cycle is all sold out now too. Such a bummer for 
a well functioning piece by Nitto. There doesn't seem to be any equivalent 
either. One of the nice things about this too is that it can lower the 
attachment point for the bag (which I need on my Ram).

On Wednesday, February 28, 2024 at 2:20:14 PM UTC-6 Dorothy C wrote:

> Will stated recently that the R50 is discontinued, so grab one while you 
> can if you want one. 
>
> On Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 4:39:31 PM UTC-8 kiziria...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Ben's got it at a very good price. 
>> https://www.benscycle.com/nitto-r50-quick-release-saddle-bag-supporter-bag_part_nitto__870-179-11/p
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 9:48:32 AM UTC-8 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>
>>> Once upon a time I had a couple of these but swung towards carring my 
>>> cargo upfront on my bikes for a few years. Now I'm back on the rear 
>>> saddlebag train and want to grab one of these for my Ram. Riv is out of 
>>> stock...
>>>
>>> Anyone holding?
>>>
>>> Mike in Minneapolis
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Experience with North Street Bags backpack panniers?

[Michael Ullmer]

Hi Robert,

I used the North St Backpack Pannier for a few years and really liked the 
design and versatility. If I was ever going to go back to a 
pannier/backpack setup, this would be first on my list of bags to use. 
Highly recommended!

On Wednesday, February 28, 2024 at 8:12:34 AM UTC-6 matthew...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> PS - I'm happy to provide some photos later if you'd like a reference on 
> them.
>
> On Wednesday, February 28, 2024 at 9:11:25 AM UTC-5 Matthew Rebmann wrote:
>
>> I have a couple of their panniers as well as a trunk bag and a hip pack 
>> from them. I daily wear the hip pack and it's pretty worse for wear after 
>> one year but I beat the ever living crap out of it (it's their ecopak 
>> material.) I've had two of the Route Panniers 24L bags for probably 2-3 
>> years now for commuting to work and they've been great, made of cordura. I 
>> can't attest to their durability on a grueling tour but I really like them 
>> and haven't had any excessive wear or leaks. Their customer service is also 
>> fantastic and very responsive. 
>>
>> On another note: Last year they sent out a 3rd party survey and I decided 
>> to fill it out on a whim. At the end of it, it asked if I had anything else 
>> I'd like to mention. I told them I was in the market for a nice trunk bag 
>> with a roll top closure and to my surprise, I got a return email direct 
>> from them (less than two days later) letting me know they had some old 
>> stock I could buy or I could order a custom bag from them. I went with the 
>> custom and the turn around was VERY fast. 
>>
>> Are they the best bags out there? I can't say. Are they good quality? 
>> Absolutely and they seem to be some great folks in my experience.
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 28, 2024 at 12:07:25 AM UTC-5 Robert Tilley wrote:
>>
>>> I used the Arkel Bug backpack pannier for years and I really liked it. I 
>>> would use it an a pannier on my morning commute and then use it as a 
>>> backpack for riding the trails on my way home.
>>>
>>> It worked great as a pannier which is a given since the Arkel mounting 
>>> system is really well done. It also was very comfortable as a backpack. 
>>> Mine did not have a sternum strap but that proved to not be an issue.
>>>
>>> I used it pretty roughly and it is still as good as new. It looks to be 
>>> 25L which may be too small for what you need.
>>>
>>> [image: bike-convertible-pannier-bug-arkel-grey.jpg]
>>>
>>> Bug - Pannier Backpack 
>>> arkel.ca 
>>> 
>>>
>>> Robert Tilley
>>> San Diego, CA
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Feb 27, 2024, at 4:14 PM, Robert Blunt  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Greetings everyone,
>>> I am going to cycle the Zuiderzee bicycle route in the Netherlands in 
>>> April (400km) and am trying to figure out the best way to go straight from 
>>> the airport to the bike rental place without dragging a suitcase and all 
>>> the hassle entailed with that. I am definitely packing in a minimalist 
>>> fashion and am interested in the various offerings of backpack panniers. It 
>>> will be a three week trip and the 32 liter North St. Bags Woodward 
>>> backpack pannier seems like one of the better options out there for having 
>>> a carry-on that can transition straight from the airport to a bicycle rear 
>>> rack. Does anyone have any experience with this bag or similar products? 
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> Robert Blunt 
>>> Pennington, NJ
>>>
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[RBW] WTB: Nitto Saddlebag Grip R50

[Michael Ullmer]

Once upon a time I had a couple of these but swung towards carring my cargo 
upfront on my bikes for a few years. Now I'm back on the rear saddlebag 
train and want to grab one of these for my Ram. Riv is out of stock...

Anyone holding?

Mike in Minneapolis

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Re: [RBW] Spring FS Post - Cranks, BB, Seatpost, Handlebars, Nitto Rack, Wool

[Michael Ullmer]

All sold, thanks all.

On Saturday, February 24, 2024 at 6:18:27 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> All sold except the Nitto R-14
>
> On Friday, February 23, 2024 at 10:43:14 AM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> IRD BB is sold, open to offers on remaining items.
>>
>> On Thursday, February 22, 2024 at 11:33:58 AM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>
>>> Update with sold items and price drops:
>>>
>>> 1) Tange IRD QB-95 68x122 Square Taper BB - $45
>>> --Tange's top of line square taper bb. This was on my Fitz, no longer 
>>> need though. Still buttery smooth.
>>>
>>> 2) Nitto Mustache RM-016N Handlebars - $30
>>> --Nitto Mustache RM-016N Heat Treated  Aluminium Handlebars. 26.0 Clamp. 
>>> Some tape residue, but good shape otherwise.
>>>
>>> 3) Thomson Masterpiece 27.2 Silver - 220mm - $35
>>> --Cut down to 22cm overall. The straight section of the post is about 
>>> 10cm. I used this on my Fitz Rando that has an integrated seat tube light 
>>> and needed a short seatpost to avoid hitting the wire inside the seat tube.
>>>
>>> 4) Deore XT FC-6206 Silver Square Taper Cranks 170mm with Shimano 122.5 
>>> BB - $50
>>> --This was on a Trek 520 my uncle gave to me. I ran as a single on a 
>>> different vintage Trek, but can be set up double or triple with spacers. 
>>> 110/74 BCD. Comes with the original cup/cone BB. No Chainrings. 
>>>
>>> 5) Patagonia Mens Medium Fisherman Sweater Blue - SOLD
>>> --100% wool. Beautiful deep blue color, very warm. I'm wearing my 
>>> Woolywarm sweater a lot more these days and want to pass this on. See pics 
>>> for measurements.
>>>
>>> 6) Patagonia Mens Long-Sleeved Recycled Wool Shirt - SOLD
>>> --60% recycled wool, 30% recycled poly, 10% recycled nylon. I have a 
>>> couple of these and am just downsizing. Great shape. It's a deep blue color 
>>> with yellow/red striping.
>>>
>>> 7) Nitto R-14 Rear Rack - $90
>>> --Comes with all hardware and struts. Would also trade for a Marks Rack.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 8:15:57 AM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> PM sent on bottom bracket.
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 20, 2024, at 8:11 AM, Mike Ullmer  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> Continuing to clean out the unnecessaries. All prices don't include 
>>>> shipping, but will be shipped via Pirateship:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Tange IRD QB-95 68x122 Square Taper BB - $50
>>>> --Tange's top of line square taper bb. This was on my Fitz, no longer 
>>>> need though. Still buttery smooth.
>>>>
>>>> 2) Nitto Mustache RM-016N Handlebars - $35
>>>> --Nitto Mustache RM-016N Heat Treated  Aluminium Handlebars. 26.0 
>>>> Clamp. Some tape residue, but good shape otherwise. 
>>>>
>>>> 3) Thomson Masterpiece 27.2 Silver - 220mm - $40
>>>> --Cut down to 22cm overall. The straight section of the post is about 
>>>> 10cm. I used this on my Fitz Rando that has an integrated seat tube light 
>>>> and needed a short seatpost to avoid hitting the wire inside the seat tube.
>>>>
>>>> 4) Deore XT FC-6206 Silver Square Taper Cranks 170mm with Shimano 122.5 
>>>> BB - $60
>>>> --This was on a Trek 520 my uncle gave to me. I ran as a single on a 
>>>> different vintage Trek, but can be set up double or triple with spacers. 
>>>> 110/74 BCD. Comes with the original cup/cone BB. No Chainrings. 
>>>>
>>>> 5) Patagonia Mens Medium Fisherman Sweater Blue - $50
>>>> --100% wool. Beautiful deep blue color, very warm. I'm wearing my 
>>>> Woolywarm sweater a lot more these days and want to pass this on. See pics 
>>>> for measurements.
>>>>
>>>> 6) Patagonia Mens Long-Sleeved Recycled Wool Shirt - $50
>>>> --60% recycled wool, 30% recycled poly, 10% recycled nylon. I have a 
>>>> couple of these and am just downsizing. Great shape. It's a deep blue 
>>>> color 
>>>> with yellow/red striping.
>>>>
>>>> 7) Nitto R-14 Rear Rack - $100
>>>> --Comes with all hardware and struts. Would also trade for a Marks Rack.
>>>>
>>>> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/KxSdnsek27UuM9Ka8
>>>>
>>>> Mike in Minneapolis
>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Spring FS Post - Cranks, BB, Seatpost, Handlebars, Nitto Rack, Wool

[Michael Ullmer]

All sold except the Nitto R-14

On Friday, February 23, 2024 at 10:43:14 AM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> IRD BB is sold, open to offers on remaining items.
>
> On Thursday, February 22, 2024 at 11:33:58 AM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> Update with sold items and price drops:
>>
>> 1) Tange IRD QB-95 68x122 Square Taper BB - $45
>> --Tange's top of line square taper bb. This was on my Fitz, no longer 
>> need though. Still buttery smooth.
>>
>> 2) Nitto Mustache RM-016N Handlebars - $30
>> --Nitto Mustache RM-016N Heat Treated  Aluminium Handlebars. 26.0 Clamp. 
>> Some tape residue, but good shape otherwise.
>>
>> 3) Thomson Masterpiece 27.2 Silver - 220mm - $35
>> --Cut down to 22cm overall. The straight section of the post is about 
>> 10cm. I used this on my Fitz Rando that has an integrated seat tube light 
>> and needed a short seatpost to avoid hitting the wire inside the seat tube.
>>
>> 4) Deore XT FC-6206 Silver Square Taper Cranks 170mm with Shimano 122.5 
>> BB - $50
>> --This was on a Trek 520 my uncle gave to me. I ran as a single on a 
>> different vintage Trek, but can be set up double or triple with spacers. 
>> 110/74 BCD. Comes with the original cup/cone BB. No Chainrings. 
>>
>> 5) Patagonia Mens Medium Fisherman Sweater Blue - SOLD
>> --100% wool. Beautiful deep blue color, very warm. I'm wearing my 
>> Woolywarm sweater a lot more these days and want to pass this on. See pics 
>> for measurements.
>>
>> 6) Patagonia Mens Long-Sleeved Recycled Wool Shirt - SOLD
>> --60% recycled wool, 30% recycled poly, 10% recycled nylon. I have a 
>> couple of these and am just downsizing. Great shape. It's a deep blue color 
>> with yellow/red striping.
>>
>> 7) Nitto R-14 Rear Rack - $90
>> --Comes with all hardware and struts. Would also trade for a Marks Rack.
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 8:15:57 AM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> PM sent on bottom bracket.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Feb 20, 2024, at 8:11 AM, Mike Ullmer  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Continuing to clean out the unnecessaries. All prices don't include 
>>> shipping, but will be shipped via Pirateship:
>>>
>>> 1) Tange IRD QB-95 68x122 Square Taper BB - $50
>>> --Tange's top of line square taper bb. This was on my Fitz, no longer 
>>> need though. Still buttery smooth.
>>>
>>> 2) Nitto Mustache RM-016N Handlebars - $35
>>> --Nitto Mustache RM-016N Heat Treated  Aluminium Handlebars. 26.0 Clamp. 
>>> Some tape residue, but good shape otherwise. 
>>>
>>> 3) Thomson Masterpiece 27.2 Silver - 220mm - $40
>>> --Cut down to 22cm overall. The straight section of the post is about 
>>> 10cm. I used this on my Fitz Rando that has an integrated seat tube light 
>>> and needed a short seatpost to avoid hitting the wire inside the seat tube.
>>>
>>> 4) Deore XT FC-6206 Silver Square Taper Cranks 170mm with Shimano 122.5 
>>> BB - $60
>>> --This was on a Trek 520 my uncle gave to me. I ran as a single on a 
>>> different vintage Trek, but can be set up double or triple with spacers. 
>>> 110/74 BCD. Comes with the original cup/cone BB. No Chainrings. 
>>>
>>> 5) Patagonia Mens Medium Fisherman Sweater Blue - $50
>>> --100% wool. Beautiful deep blue color, very warm. I'm wearing my 
>>> Woolywarm sweater a lot more these days and want to pass this on. See pics 
>>> for measurements.
>>>
>>> 6) Patagonia Mens Long-Sleeved Recycled Wool Shirt - $50
>>> --60% recycled wool, 30% recycled poly, 10% recycled nylon. I have a 
>>> couple of these and am just downsizing. Great shape. It's a deep blue color 
>>> with yellow/red striping.
>>>
>>> 7) Nitto R-14 Rear Rack - $100
>>> --Comes with all hardware and struts. Would also trade for a Marks Rack.
>>>
>>> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/KxSdnsek27UuM9Ka8
>>>
>>> Mike in Minneapolis
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Spring FS Post - Cranks, BB, Seatpost, Handlebars, Nitto Rack, Wool

[Michael Ullmer]

IRD BB is sold, open to offers on remaining items.

On Thursday, February 22, 2024 at 11:33:58 AM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Update with sold items and price drops:
>
> 1) Tange IRD QB-95 68x122 Square Taper BB - $45
> --Tange's top of line square taper bb. This was on my Fitz, no longer need 
> though. Still buttery smooth.
>
> 2) Nitto Mustache RM-016N Handlebars - $30
> --Nitto Mustache RM-016N Heat Treated  Aluminium Handlebars. 26.0 Clamp. 
> Some tape residue, but good shape otherwise.
>
> 3) Thomson Masterpiece 27.2 Silver - 220mm - $35
> --Cut down to 22cm overall. The straight section of the post is about 
> 10cm. I used this on my Fitz Rando that has an integrated seat tube light 
> and needed a short seatpost to avoid hitting the wire inside the seat tube.
>
> 4) Deore XT FC-6206 Silver Square Taper Cranks 170mm with Shimano 122.5 BB 
> - $50
> --This was on a Trek 520 my uncle gave to me. I ran as a single on a 
> different vintage Trek, but can be set up double or triple with spacers. 
> 110/74 BCD. Comes with the original cup/cone BB. No Chainrings. 
>
> 5) Patagonia Mens Medium Fisherman Sweater Blue - SOLD
> --100% wool. Beautiful deep blue color, very warm. I'm wearing my 
> Woolywarm sweater a lot more these days and want to pass this on. See pics 
> for measurements.
>
> 6) Patagonia Mens Long-Sleeved Recycled Wool Shirt - SOLD
> --60% recycled wool, 30% recycled poly, 10% recycled nylon. I have a 
> couple of these and am just downsizing. Great shape. It's a deep blue color 
> with yellow/red striping.
>
> 7) Nitto R-14 Rear Rack - $90
> --Comes with all hardware and struts. Would also trade for a Marks Rack.
>
> On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 8:15:57 AM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> PM sent on bottom bracket.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 20, 2024, at 8:11 AM, Mike Ullmer  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Continuing to clean out the unnecessaries. All prices don't include 
>> shipping, but will be shipped via Pirateship:
>>
>> 1) Tange IRD QB-95 68x122 Square Taper BB - $50
>> --Tange's top of line square taper bb. This was on my Fitz, no longer 
>> need though. Still buttery smooth.
>>
>> 2) Nitto Mustache RM-016N Handlebars - $35
>> --Nitto Mustache RM-016N Heat Treated  Aluminium Handlebars. 26.0 Clamp. 
>> Some tape residue, but good shape otherwise. 
>>
>> 3) Thomson Masterpiece 27.2 Silver - 220mm - $40
>> --Cut down to 22cm overall. The straight section of the post is about 
>> 10cm. I used this on my Fitz Rando that has an integrated seat tube light 
>> and needed a short seatpost to avoid hitting the wire inside the seat tube.
>>
>> 4) Deore XT FC-6206 Silver Square Taper Cranks 170mm with Shimano 122.5 
>> BB - $60
>> --This was on a Trek 520 my uncle gave to me. I ran as a single on a 
>> different vintage Trek, but can be set up double or triple with spacers. 
>> 110/74 BCD. Comes with the original cup/cone BB. No Chainrings. 
>>
>> 5) Patagonia Mens Medium Fisherman Sweater Blue - $50
>> --100% wool. Beautiful deep blue color, very warm. I'm wearing my 
>> Woolywarm sweater a lot more these days and want to pass this on. See pics 
>> for measurements.
>>
>> 6) Patagonia Mens Long-Sleeved Recycled Wool Shirt - $50
>> --60% recycled wool, 30% recycled poly, 10% recycled nylon. I have a 
>> couple of these and am just downsizing. Great shape. It's a deep blue color 
>> with yellow/red striping.
>>
>> 7) Nitto R-14 Rear Rack - $100
>> --Comes with all hardware and struts. Would also trade for a Marks Rack.
>>
>> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/KxSdnsek27UuM9Ka8
>>
>> Mike in Minneapolis
>>
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Re: [RBW] Spring FS Post - Cranks, BB, Seatpost, Handlebars, Nitto Rack, Wool

[Michael Ullmer]

Update with sold items and price drops:

1) Tange IRD QB-95 68x122 Square Taper BB - $45
--Tange's top of line square taper bb. This was on my Fitz, no longer need 
though. Still buttery smooth.

2) Nitto Mustache RM-016N Handlebars - $30
--Nitto Mustache RM-016N Heat Treated  Aluminium Handlebars. 26.0 Clamp. 
Some tape residue, but good shape otherwise.

3) Thomson Masterpiece 27.2 Silver - 220mm - $35
--Cut down to 22cm overall. The straight section of the post is about 10cm. 
I used this on my Fitz Rando that has an integrated seat tube light and 
needed a short seatpost to avoid hitting the wire inside the seat tube.

4) Deore XT FC-6206 Silver Square Taper Cranks 170mm with Shimano 122.5 BB 
- $50
--This was on a Trek 520 my uncle gave to me. I ran as a single on a 
different vintage Trek, but can be set up double or triple with spacers. 
110/74 BCD. Comes with the original cup/cone BB. No Chainrings. 

5) Patagonia Mens Medium Fisherman Sweater Blue - SOLD
--100% wool. Beautiful deep blue color, very warm. I'm wearing my 
Woolywarm sweater a lot more these days and want to pass this on. See pics 
for measurements.

6) Patagonia Mens Long-Sleeved Recycled Wool Shirt - SOLD
--60% recycled wool, 30% recycled poly, 10% recycled nylon. I have a couple 
of these and am just downsizing. Great shape. It's a deep blue color with 
yellow/red striping.

7) Nitto R-14 Rear Rack - $90
--Comes with all hardware and struts. Would also trade for a Marks Rack.

On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 8:15:57 AM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> PM sent on bottom bracket.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 20, 2024, at 8:11 AM, Mike Ullmer  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Continuing to clean out the unnecessaries. All prices don't include 
> shipping, but will be shipped via Pirateship:
>
> 1) Tange IRD QB-95 68x122 Square Taper BB - $50
> --Tange's top of line square taper bb. This was on my Fitz, no longer need 
> though. Still buttery smooth.
>
> 2) Nitto Mustache RM-016N Handlebars - $35
> --Nitto Mustache RM-016N Heat Treated  Aluminium Handlebars. 26.0 Clamp. 
> Some tape residue, but good shape otherwise. 
>
> 3) Thomson Masterpiece 27.2 Silver - 220mm - $40
> --Cut down to 22cm overall. The straight section of the post is about 
> 10cm. I used this on my Fitz Rando that has an integrated seat tube light 
> and needed a short seatpost to avoid hitting the wire inside the seat tube.
>
> 4) Deore XT FC-6206 Silver Square Taper Cranks 170mm with Shimano 122.5 BB 
> - $60
> --This was on a Trek 520 my uncle gave to me. I ran as a single on a 
> different vintage Trek, but can be set up double or triple with spacers. 
> 110/74 BCD. Comes with the original cup/cone BB. No Chainrings. 
>
> 5) Patagonia Mens Medium Fisherman Sweater Blue - $50
> --100% wool. Beautiful deep blue color, very warm. I'm wearing my 
> Woolywarm sweater a lot more these days and want to pass this on. See pics 
> for measurements.
>
> 6) Patagonia Mens Long-Sleeved Recycled Wool Shirt - $50
> --60% recycled wool, 30% recycled poly, 10% recycled nylon. I have a 
> couple of these and am just downsizing. Great shape. It's a deep blue color 
> with yellow/red striping.
>
> 7) Nitto R-14 Rear Rack - $100
> --Comes with all hardware and struts. Would also trade for a Marks Rack.
>
> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/KxSdnsek27UuM9Ka8
>
> Mike in Minneapolis
>
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[RBW] Re: Fitz Cycles All Road 56cm 26"/650b Disc Partial Build and Wheels

[Michael Ullmer]

Midweek bump and price drop, $1250 plus shipping

On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 5:11:27 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Bump and a price drop, $1350 plus shipping.
>
> Also, in need of a few items for a trade/partial trade:
>
> Nitto Marks Rack
> 58cm Atlantis
> 700c 135mm spaced dynamo wheelset
>
> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 2:38:16 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> Wheels are sold. Also, I forgot to include that the rear spacing is 135mm.
>>
>> Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders - $1400 plus shipping
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 11:09:42 AM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>
>>> This is cross-posted from the i-bob list. Hoping to pass along this 
>>> frameset and wheels to fund a near-term Spring Break trip for the fam down 
>>> to Mexico. Long-term, this bike's place in the stable will be replaced with 
>>> a properly sized Atlantis or Appaloosa.
>>>
>>> This is one I never thought I'd get rid of, but I have to admit it's not 
>>> the right size and it's not getting much ride time. I bought this from John 
>>> Fitz, but I'm the second owner. Here's the original color/build (
>>> https://www.facebook.com/FitzCyclez/posts/958878954200930). I reached 
>>> out to have him build me a fork similar to the one that was on this bike, 
>>> but instead he happened to have this frame/fork available. He 
>>> re-powdercoated it for me, built the custom rack and added a bunch of 
>>> braze-ons. Here's what's included with the sale:
>>>
>>> 1) Frame/Fork
>>> 2) 1 1/8" Silver Chris King Headset
>>> 3) Custom Front SS Rando Rack with integrated light mount and wire guides
>>> 4) Velo Orange 26" 60mm Smooth Fenders with Ruthworks Mudguards
>>> 5) Matching Green Powdercoated Truvatic 110mm 26.0 Stem
>>> 6) Maroon Powdercoated xxmm Stem 31.8 (this was the previous powdercoat 
>>> color)
>>>
>>> Frame/Fork Details:
>>>
>>> TT - Columbus 28.6 8/5/8
>>> DT  - (unknown) 31.8 9/6/9 or 8/5/8
>>> ST - Nova 28.6 9/6/1.2
>>> SS - 17mm true temper
>>> BB - 68mm BSA Paragon
>>> Paragon Dropouts front and back
>>> Fork Blades - Disc specific Nova fork blades 1.1 wall thickness
>>> Fork Crown - Pacenti MTB Fork Crown
>>> Braze-ons - lighting guides on fork blade and under downtube, three 
>>> bottle bosses, pump pegs on non-drive seatstay, low-rider front rack 
>>> mounts, 
>>>
>>> Takes a 27.2 seatpost, 28.6 front derailleur. Built around 160mm rotors 
>>> front/rear. It clears Compass/Rene Herse Rat Trap Pass 2.3" Tires easily. I 
>>> never ran with 650b, but was told it would do 650bx48 just fine. I've used 
>>> this as a drop-bar enduro all-road and an upright basket cruiser with Nitto 
>>> Albatross bars. It handles great with a rear rack and big saddlebag (I used 
>>> a large Sackville). 
>>>
>>> Frame is in great shape, all threads clean and no dents/dings. Never 
>>> been crashed. The powder coat is probably 8/10. There's some worn away on 
>>> the drive side chainstay, and the non-drive side inside chainstay from the 
>>> disc rubbing. There's a few other spots where the powder coat has been 
>>> rubbed away, but overall pretty good.
>>>
>>> Wheels:
>>>
>>> 26" Disc 28H Nextie 26" i30 carbon rims laced to SP PD-8 front, 
>>> BikeHubStore BX106R rear, using silver Sapim Laser spokes & nipples. Rims 
>>> are true and all spokes are in good tension. Come with Rene Herse Rat Trap 
>>> Pass 2.3" Tires set up tubeless. Tires have 1000+ miles on them, but treads 
>>> are in good shape. Deore XT Skewers. 160mm rotors, 6-bolt front, centerlock 
>>> rear.
>>>
>>> Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders/Wheels - $1650 plus shipping via 
>>> Bikeflights/Pirateship
>>>
>>> Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders - $1400 plus shipping
>>>
>>> Wheels Only - $350 plus shipping
>>>
>>> Pics and a couple past build configurations here: 
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/uzfJcaTh9UCcpFV8A
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: The Official Introduction of RoadeoRosa

[Michael Ullmer]

Love that you opted for cantis on this frame. The mix of silver and black 
components is spot on. 

Did you get the tubing specs from Riv/Mark as well? Curious what was spec'd 
for this.

On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 5:50:48 AM UTC-6 Steven Sweedler wrote:

> Agreeing with others, very elegant, and like the cantilever brake choice 
> and the dt shifters. 
>
> Steven Sweedler
> Plymouth, New Hampshire
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 11:40 AM brendonoid  
> wrote:
>
>> This is such a wonderful build sir, congratulations.
>>
>> This is the bike missing from the Riv line-up. A light rando frame with 
>> canti posts. So perfect.
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Frame Day (the build commences)

[Michael Ullmer]

Very classy build, Bill! I love the boldness of the pink and the contrast 
with the cream.

Do you know what your max tire size will be with/without fenders? And I 
assume its built for a 700c wheel?

Can't wait to see it with fenders!

On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 1:55:16 PM UTC-6 plumber...@gmail.com wrote:

> Good call I think I’ll hold off for a little until I start building and 
> have some more content to share with the group. 
>
> Enjoy the new ride Bill!
>
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 8:12 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
>> Start another thread!  Participants on this group love seeing photos of 
>> other people's bikes.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 10:58:41 AM UTC-8 plumber...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Lovely custom and selection can’t wait to see the finished project! I 
>>> too recently picked up my wife’s frame that was painted by Rick at D Had 
>>> to do my best not to chime in with photos and disrupt your thread here. 
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 7:50 PM Matthew Rebmann  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 The color isn't my cup of tea either but I absolutely love that you 
 went above and beyond for it. That's a sick build!

 On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 1:44:49 PM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:

> I agree with other commenters - a very nice build and selection of 
> components (I wouldn't be able to tolerate that ass-hatchet saddle, 
> though. 
> It would get me right where my sciatica flares up).  I'm still not 
> entirely 
> on board with the frame/fender color, though, but to each his own.
>
> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 6:52:24 PM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> The pre-fenders build is now complete.  It's pouring rain so there's 
>> no inaugural ride and the lighting is poor but I took a few shots on my 
>> porch of the bike looking like a complete bike.  With two water bottle 
>> cages, and a pump, and a front rack the bike is still just under 20 
>> pounds, 
>> but I concede it will be over 20 pounds with fenders.  
>>
>> The album is updated, scroll to the end:
>> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720313109003
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 10:52:20 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> Pretty fabulous! Can’t believe how quick you put that together. Like 
>>> a jackrabbit on a date, as they say! I’m excited to see all the little 
>>> details at the end, oh please let them be sparkly. Where will the 
>>> inaugural 
>>> ride take you?
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 11:24:15 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 Rule #8 is one of "The Rules" of the Velominati.  It's a somewhat 
 tongue in cheek, somewhat serious group of cyclists who have 
 enumerated 
 Rules of activity and fashion for cycling and for bicycles.  Rule #8 
 just 
 states that the handlebars, saddle and tires must be very carefully 
 and 
 deliberately matched, and states that the easiest way to do that is to 
 have 
 the tires, saddle and handlebars all black.  Meditating on a rule is 
 one of 
 the joke-penance things that the Velominati tell people to do.  
 Meditating 
 on Rule #8 is my attempt at a joke that means my handlebar tape, and 
 saddle, and tires are all going to be black.  

 I made good progress yesterday, and spent a bit of extra 
 machine-shop time making custom decorative headset spacers and indeed 
 grinding off the lawyer lips.  I got the cockpit assembled and slowed 
 down/stalled on the brake setup.  There are two parts new and unique 
 about 
 this from my earlier builds.  I am using fancy Jagwire Elite housing, 
 which 
 was a new procedure for me, and I'm using the very elegant Rene Herse 
 cantilever brakes, which have a number of their own idiosyncratic 
 nuances.  
 I got the front set up, and I stopped there for meditation of my own.  
 The 
 Flickr album has more shots in it.

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 7:20:01 AM UTC-8 steve...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Okay, I'll bitewhat is this rule #8 of which you speak?
>
> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 6:44:14 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay 
> wrote:
>
>> SMH
>>
>> Meditate on Rule #8, consider my Legolas, meditate much longer on 
>> Rule #8, and then recite Rule #8
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 3:42:06 PM UTC-8 ttoshi wrote:
>>
>>> I'm guessing blue bar tape to match the headbadge!
>>>
>>> 

[RBW] Re: Fitz Cycles All Road 56cm 26"/650b Disc Partial Build and Wheels

[Michael Ullmer]

Bump and a price drop, $1350 plus shipping.

Also, in need of a few items for a trade/partial trade:

Nitto Marks Rack
58cm Atlantis
700c 135mm spaced dynamo wheelset

On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 2:38:16 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Wheels are sold. Also, I forgot to include that the rear spacing is 135mm.
>
> Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders - $1400 plus shipping
>
> On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 11:09:42 AM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> This is cross-posted from the i-bob list. Hoping to pass along this 
>> frameset and wheels to fund a near-term Spring Break trip for the fam down 
>> to Mexico. Long-term, this bike's place in the stable will be replaced with 
>> a properly sized Atlantis or Appaloosa.
>>
>> This is one I never thought I'd get rid of, but I have to admit it's not 
>> the right size and it's not getting much ride time. I bought this from John 
>> Fitz, but I'm the second owner. Here's the original color/build (
>> https://www.facebook.com/FitzCyclez/posts/958878954200930). I reached 
>> out to have him build me a fork similar to the one that was on this bike, 
>> but instead he happened to have this frame/fork available. He 
>> re-powdercoated it for me, built the custom rack and added a bunch of 
>> braze-ons. Here's what's included with the sale:
>>
>> 1) Frame/Fork
>> 2) 1 1/8" Silver Chris King Headset
>> 3) Custom Front SS Rando Rack with integrated light mount and wire guides
>> 4) Velo Orange 26" 60mm Smooth Fenders with Ruthworks Mudguards
>> 5) Matching Green Powdercoated Truvatic 110mm 26.0 Stem
>> 6) Maroon Powdercoated xxmm Stem 31.8 (this was the previous powdercoat 
>> color)
>>
>> Frame/Fork Details:
>>
>> TT - Columbus 28.6 8/5/8
>> DT  - (unknown) 31.8 9/6/9 or 8/5/8
>> ST - Nova 28.6 9/6/1.2
>> SS - 17mm true temper
>> BB - 68mm BSA Paragon
>> Paragon Dropouts front and back
>> Fork Blades - Disc specific Nova fork blades 1.1 wall thickness
>> Fork Crown - Pacenti MTB Fork Crown
>> Braze-ons - lighting guides on fork blade and under downtube, three 
>> bottle bosses, pump pegs on non-drive seatstay, low-rider front rack 
>> mounts, 
>>
>> Takes a 27.2 seatpost, 28.6 front derailleur. Built around 160mm rotors 
>> front/rear. It clears Compass/Rene Herse Rat Trap Pass 2.3" Tires easily. I 
>> never ran with 650b, but was told it would do 650bx48 just fine. I've used 
>> this as a drop-bar enduro all-road and an upright basket cruiser with Nitto 
>> Albatross bars. It handles great with a rear rack and big saddlebag (I used 
>> a large Sackville). 
>>
>> Frame is in great shape, all threads clean and no dents/dings. Never been 
>> crashed. The powder coat is probably 8/10. There's some worn away on the 
>> drive side chainstay, and the non-drive side inside chainstay from the disc 
>> rubbing. There's a few other spots where the powder coat has been rubbed 
>> away, but overall pretty good.
>>
>> Wheels:
>>
>> 26" Disc 28H Nextie 26" i30 carbon rims laced to SP PD-8 front, 
>> BikeHubStore BX106R rear, using silver Sapim Laser spokes & nipples. Rims 
>> are true and all spokes are in good tension. Come with Rene Herse Rat Trap 
>> Pass 2.3" Tires set up tubeless. Tires have 1000+ miles on them, but treads 
>> are in good shape. Deore XT Skewers. 160mm rotors, 6-bolt front, centerlock 
>> rear.
>>
>> Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders/Wheels - $1650 plus shipping via 
>> Bikeflights/Pirateship
>>
>> Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders - $1400 plus shipping
>>
>> Wheels Only - $350 plus shipping
>>
>> Pics and a couple past build configurations here: 
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/uzfJcaTh9UCcpFV8A
>>
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[RBW] Re: Fitz Cycles All Road 56cm 26"/650b Disc Partial Build and Wheels

[Michael Ullmer]

Wheels are sold. Also, I forgot to include that the rear spacing is 135mm.

Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders - $1400 plus shipping

On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 11:09:42 AM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> This is cross-posted from the i-bob list. Hoping to pass along this 
> frameset and wheels to fund a near-term Spring Break trip for the fam down 
> to Mexico. Long-term, this bike's place in the stable will be replaced with 
> a properly sized Atlantis or Appaloosa.
>
> This is one I never thought I'd get rid of, but I have to admit it's not 
> the right size and it's not getting much ride time. I bought this from John 
> Fitz, but I'm the second owner. Here's the original color/build (
> https://www.facebook.com/FitzCyclez/posts/958878954200930). I reached out 
> to have him build me a fork similar to the one that was on this bike, but 
> instead he happened to have this frame/fork available. He 
> re-powdercoated it for me, built the custom rack and added a bunch of 
> braze-ons. Here's what's included with the sale:
>
> 1) Frame/Fork
> 2) 1 1/8" Silver Chris King Headset
> 3) Custom Front SS Rando Rack with integrated light mount and wire guides
> 4) Velo Orange 26" 60mm Smooth Fenders with Ruthworks Mudguards
> 5) Matching Green Powdercoated Truvatic 110mm 26.0 Stem
> 6) Maroon Powdercoated xxmm Stem 31.8 (this was the previous powdercoat 
> color)
>
> Frame/Fork Details:
>
> TT - Columbus 28.6 8/5/8
> DT  - (unknown) 31.8 9/6/9 or 8/5/8
> ST - Nova 28.6 9/6/1.2
> SS - 17mm true temper
> BB - 68mm BSA Paragon
> Paragon Dropouts front and back
> Fork Blades - Disc specific Nova fork blades 1.1 wall thickness
> Fork Crown - Pacenti MTB Fork Crown
> Braze-ons - lighting guides on fork blade and under downtube, three bottle 
> bosses, pump pegs on non-drive seatstay, low-rider front rack mounts, 
>
> Takes a 27.2 seatpost, 28.6 front derailleur. Built around 160mm rotors 
> front/rear. It clears Compass/Rene Herse Rat Trap Pass 2.3" Tires easily. I 
> never ran with 650b, but was told it would do 650bx48 just fine. I've used 
> this as a drop-bar enduro all-road and an upright basket cruiser with Nitto 
> Albatross bars. It handles great with a rear rack and big saddlebag (I used 
> a large Sackville). 
>
> Frame is in great shape, all threads clean and no dents/dings. Never been 
> crashed. The powder coat is probably 8/10. There's some worn away on the 
> drive side chainstay, and the non-drive side inside chainstay from the disc 
> rubbing. There's a few other spots where the powder coat has been rubbed 
> away, but overall pretty good.
>
> Wheels:
>
> 26" Disc 28H Nextie 26" i30 carbon rims laced to SP PD-8 front, 
> BikeHubStore BX106R rear, using silver Sapim Laser spokes & nipples. Rims 
> are true and all spokes are in good tension. Come with Rene Herse Rat Trap 
> Pass 2.3" Tires set up tubeless. Tires have 1000+ miles on them, but treads 
> are in good shape. Deore XT Skewers. 160mm rotors, 6-bolt front, centerlock 
> rear.
>
> Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders/Wheels - $1650 plus shipping via 
> Bikeflights/Pirateship
>
> Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders - $1400 plus shipping
>
> Wheels Only - $350 plus shipping
>
> Pics and a couple past build configurations here: 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/uzfJcaTh9UCcpFV8A
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Bike Day - 2002 Size 60 Rambouillet

[Michael Ullmer]

Long overdue update to this post. The Ram has taken on a new configuration 
as of a couple weeks back, thanks in part to a counter-bored WI inner ring 
from one our very own Bill Lindsay.

I switched the wheels on here from 700c to 650b with the help of Tektro 
Long-Reach brakes. After a brief experiment with 48mm Switchback Hill tires 
which DID fit (sans fenders), I've settled on 42mm Pumpkin Ridge tires with 
SKS Fenders. Thanks to the counter-bored inner WI ring, I was able to use a 
narrow 108mm WI Stainless Steel Bottom Bracket. It currently has 48mm 
Noodles, though I may go to Albastache in the near future. Gearing is SRAM 
10speed with bar end shifters. As always, I'm continually impressed with 
the versatility of this bike. With my former camper/basket 26" Fitz up for 
sale, I'm planning on fitting this out with a rear saddlebag and front 
basket to see how it handles commuting duty. Long-term, if I can acquire a 
Riv more suited to the job, this will go back to a rackless adventure bike.

Pics of the current build: https://photos.app.goo.gl/8w5UH3xDhYzCj7ey5

On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 2:17:49 PM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Those 2 Orange Rams make me nostalgic for my blue one from some 10 years 
> ago; yes a very nice bike for aimless afternoon rides and with just enough 
> room for 32s and fenders. I rode mine with 1.35" Kojaks; it would have been 
> transformed with extralight RH tires. Actually, it *was* transformed with 
> Paris Roubaix open tubulars. Please (both of you) show more photos and 
> describe the feel of the bike after you ride it more.
>
> Also, I'll be interested to hear more of others' opinions on the Ram (and 
> Roadeo, Roadini, RoadUno, Quickbeam, Simpleone, Road Standard, and Longlow) 
> versus Legolas.
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 8:47 AM 'Joel S' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Beautiful, enjoy it, these older Rivendell bikes are my preferred models. 
>>
>

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[RBW] WTT: Nitto R-14 for Marks Rack

[Michael Ullmer]

I'm planning on converting my Ram to a basket bike now that my Fitz is on 
the chopping block. I have two of these R-14s and hoping to trade one for a 
Marks Rack.

Anyone holding?

Or if anyone has a Marks Rack minus all the hardware, I'd be happy to just 
buy that outright and use my R-14 hardware on it.

Mike in Minneapolis

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[RBW] Fitz Cycles All Road 56cm 26"/650b Disc Partial Build and Wheels

[Michael Ullmer]

This is cross-posted from the i-bob list. Hoping to pass along this 
frameset and wheels to fund a near-term Spring Break trip for the fam down 
to Mexico. Long-term, this bike's place in the stable will be replaced with 
a properly sized Atlantis or Appaloosa.

This is one I never thought I'd get rid of, but I have to admit it's not 
the right size and it's not getting much ride time. I bought this from John 
Fitz, but I'm the second owner. Here's the original color/build (
https://www.facebook.com/FitzCyclez/posts/958878954200930). I reached out 
to have him build me a fork similar to the one that was on this bike, but 
instead he happened to have this frame/fork available. He 
re-powdercoated it for me, built the custom rack and added a bunch of 
braze-ons. Here's what's included with the sale:

1) Frame/Fork
2) 1 1/8" Silver Chris King Headset
3) Custom Front SS Rando Rack with integrated light mount and wire guides
4) Velo Orange 26" 60mm Smooth Fenders with Ruthworks Mudguards
5) Matching Green Powdercoated Truvatic 110mm 26.0 Stem
6) Maroon Powdercoated xxmm Stem 31.8 (this was the previous powdercoat 
color)

Frame/Fork Details:

TT - Columbus 28.6 8/5/8
DT  - (unknown) 31.8 9/6/9 or 8/5/8
ST - Nova 28.6 9/6/1.2
SS - 17mm true temper
BB - 68mm BSA Paragon
Paragon Dropouts front and back
Fork Blades - Disc specific Nova fork blades 1.1 wall thickness
Fork Crown - Pacenti MTB Fork Crown
Braze-ons - lighting guides on fork blade and under downtube, three bottle 
bosses, pump pegs on non-drive seatstay, low-rider front rack mounts, 

Takes a 27.2 seatpost, 28.6 front derailleur. Built around 160mm rotors 
front/rear. It clears Compass/Rene Herse Rat Trap Pass 2.3" Tires easily. I 
never ran with 650b, but was told it would do 650bx48 just fine. I've used 
this as a drop-bar enduro all-road and an upright basket cruiser with Nitto 
Albatross bars. It handles great with a rear rack and big saddlebag (I used 
a large Sackville). 

Frame is in great shape, all threads clean and no dents/dings. Never been 
crashed. The powder coat is probably 8/10. There's some worn away on the 
drive side chainstay, and the non-drive side inside chainstay from the disc 
rubbing. There's a few other spots where the powder coat has been rubbed 
away, but overall pretty good.

Wheels:

26" Disc 28H Nextie 26" i30 carbon rims laced to SP PD-8 front, 
BikeHubStore BX106R rear, using silver Sapim Laser spokes & nipples. Rims 
are true and all spokes are in good tension. Come with Rene Herse Rat Trap 
Pass 2.3" Tires set up tubeless. Tires have 1000+ miles on them, but treads 
are in good shape. Deore XT Skewers. 160mm rotors, 6-bolt front, centerlock 
rear.

Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders/Wheels - $1650 plus shipping via 
Bikeflights/Pirateship

Frame/Fork/Headset/Rack/Fenders - $1400 plus shipping

Wheels Only - $350 plus shipping

Pics and a couple past build configurations here: 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/uzfJcaTh9UCcpFV8A

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[RBW] Re: Feeler: ISO extra-small 26er?

[Michael Morrissey]

Hi Everyone,

I know there is a lot of bike knowledge on this board, but I was blown away 
by the detail and thoughtful responses I got to my question. Thank you so 
much! I bought one of the bikes someone suggested from the above posts! I 
got it shipped to my friend's house, and now I'm waiting a few weeks to 
give it to my wife for her birthday. I'll post her reaction in a few weeks 
when her birthday arrives. I hope it fits her and she likes it, and it 
softens her up to let me buy more bikes.

Thanks!

Michael




On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 10:21:51 AM UTC-5 mgst...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have a project that needs a little more work to finish it up…..vintage 
> 531 tubed gitane, originally drop barred 700c, now with 650b wheels; built 
> it up for my wife as a city bike when we lived between 2 places, but now 
> back to one rural life, she rides her OG Glorius, but mostly we’re 
> tandeming.  The Gitane needs its cockpit sorted out, right now it’s a 1x9 
> with flat bars. It’s a very nice bike, she was quite fast on it. I; will 
> post or send photos this eve, am in transit, and just noticing this late to 
> the party
>
> Also i have a Vitus frameset, yes! that one!  Which she also rode, and it 
> was a light fast road experience. 
>
> They’re both fit my wife who is short of leg…we call it, ‘well endowed in 
> the torso’. 
>
> Ron in Western Mass 
>
> On Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 12:46:08 PM UTC-5 Michael Morrissey wrote:
>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> I'm thinking about getting a new bike for my wife. Currently, she has a 
>> Trek FX. She likes it a lot, but I can't help but think it doesn't fit her 
>> right. She is 5 feet tall, yet the bike has 700x35 tires. The frame is 
>> small but I think it's crazy to have an extra-small bike with the biggest 
>> wheel size. Google "Trek FX 13 inch" and look at this ridiculously 
>> proportioned bicycle. It looks like a penny-farthing.
>>
>> I think she would be much more comfortable on a steel 26" wheeled bike. I 
>> especially like it because I already own 3 vintage 26" mountain bikes as 
>> parts sources. She has expressed interest in getting a lighter bike, more 
>> roadish, with drop bars. She really likes the color blue, so I want to get 
>> her a blue bike. I spoke with a local custom builder, who loved the idea 
>> and quoted me $1800 for a custom frame. 
>>
>> I've got an eBay notification going for the Surly Long Haul Trucker in 
>> extra-small 42cm. This would check all my boxes. 
>>
>> I was wondering if anyone has experience (or ones they will get rid of 
>> cheap) with the smallest of touring bikes: 
>> Joe Appaloosa in 46cm
>> Atlantis in 47cm?
>> Surly Long Haul Trucker or Disc Trucker in 42cm
>> Clem Smith / Clementine in 45cm 
>> Buy another old Gary Fisher and add drop bars and call it a day? 
>> Others???
>>
>> I'd even consider a 24" wheeled bike for her. Crust bikes made a 
>> Romanceur in 24". Salsa makes a 24" gravel bike that looks really nice too.
>>
>> If anyone has one we could try, we are in NYC.
>>
>> Thanks! 
>>
>> Michael 
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Knobby tires and fenders

['Michael Kashuba' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Another data point…..I’m running 700 X50mm (actual measurement is 48/49mm width) SOMA Cazaderos with VO fluted 63mm fenders on my 60cm Appaloosa. All is fine clearance wise as long as I don’t mud up…☺️Mike in Fair Oaks, CASent from my iPhoneOn Jan 30, 2024, at 7:41 AM, Steve  wrote:Not a direct comparison, but I can share that I've run 42mm Knobbies (WTB Resolutes) with both 52mm VO Zeppelins and 58mm Tanaka smooth fenders. I also ran a pair of 40mm Continental Terra Speeds (low profile knobs) under the Tanakas. Each of those combinations would occasionally kick leaves and small  sticks up into the front fender when riding gated fire roads, sometimes necessitating a stop to clear the debris. My turf, however, is woodsy Appalachian national forest -- a bit different from Patrick's high desert.  This past autumn when the leaves began to fall I pulled the fenders off my 'dirt bike' and mounted the largest tires the bike would accommodate; 48mm RH Oracle Ridge knobbies. I've been delighted with the bigger tires. The fenders have been safely stored away, waiting for the day when I decide to mount some 38mm RH Barlow Passes on it, swap the upright bars for drops and take it on the road.Steve in AshevilleOn Tuesday, January 30, 2024 at 3:56:47 AM UTC-5 Tom Wyland wrote:I'm not sure if this answers the question but perhaps it will help. I run 63mm VO Fluted fenders on my Platypus.  The stated max tire size is 48mm with fenders.  I have the smooth RH Hatcher Pass (48mm) on Velocity Dyads (so they measure closer to 45mm but greater diameter). I switched to knobby Oracle Ridge tires of the same size, and my fenders rubbed on my rear light mounting bolt (inside the fender). So they do require greater clearance for the tire only. I just had to make a very slight rear stay adjustment (2mm) to keep the tires from rubbing.In general though I prefer at least 10mm of clearance for non-knobby tires. I mostly just do the fender width minus the stated tire width instead of dealing with measuring the gaps everywhere.  So 63mm-48mm is 15mm of stated clearance.TomOn Tuesday, January 30, 2024 at 2:16:38 AM UTC+1 ascpgh wrote:Seems like a similar question to the fenders off road (with smooth tires) question and maxims.I've got no knobby tires as of yet. I've ridden both my Rambouillet and Coast rando off road and only find the front mudflap an issue. I use two small bulldog binder clips  to affix the flaps (with their handle bales removed once mounted) and take them off when surface conditions are such that I'm picking things up at a rate higher than a low grade nuisance. I'm not riding at speeds high enough to cause any drama worth posting on social media. If my conditions and riding reach the point of requiring greater traction I would be all over the appropriate sized RH knobs for having dimensions that match those of the slick (file tread) tires for easy clearance consideration instead of beta testing all that myself with others' inputs. After Bill's brevet report I'm eagerly anticipating a long ride down the GAP which ihas n the past included some snowpack near the divide and plenty of recently unfrozen limestone dust trail surface that gets a bit spongy and slightly wheel spinny if trying to push yourself. They have a very nice uniform low height to width knob profile so they don't wobble under pedal or steering input. I learned about that with OG Specialized Hardpack 26" x 2.2"  riding trails off the Continental Divide in south central Colorado, 1988. Flexy knobs, taller on the sides, will let you down. Abruptly. Andy CheathamPittsburghOn Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 4:36:55 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:I am thinking of getting a second wheelset for the 2016 Chauncey Matthews "road bike for dirt" to supplement the very nice, very all-rounder-type 48 mm labeled/50 actual Soma Supple Vitesse SL wheelset. The second wheelset would have knobbies for sand, since the Somas just don't have the float and directional stability that I need for our sandy trails.Riv content: I told Chauncey to measure my 2 (at the time) custom Riv Roads and make the new bike handle as much l like those as possible. (And with the Somas it does, wonderful; the 60 mm Big Ones wallowed and wandered --- not horrible, just not Rivendell-like -- tho' they floated well over sand.)I am thinking of using RH knobbies -- since the reportedly once superlatively light and fast Thunder Burt has gained oz and stiffness compared to its first edition. (730 grams for the 700C X 2.35!! The 2.35 Big Ones are a digitally true 450 grams, and the F Freds that the TBs replaced were a true 360 at a true 50 mm.)The 55 mm Fleecer Ridges (per specs ELs would probably measure very close to 60 tubeless on my 27 mm IW rims) for max float; but this would mean removing the Kelpie fenders. I like fenders. I live in the high desert with an average 9" of rain a year but we have a lot of dust and full fenders keep a great deal of it off my legs and off of the bike. Also, the Matthews was 

[RBW] Re: WTB/T Nitto Tallux 5cm Stem

[Michael Connors]

Crust has 5cm x 250 Technomic stems for $55
https://crustbikes.com/collections/stems/products/nitto-technomic-stem
On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 4:59:06 PM UTC-6 John Rinker wrote:

> Gonna bump this 'cause I'm still hoping someone's holding. Cheers. 
>
> On Saturday, January 6, 2024 at 10:56:24 AM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> Good morning,
>>
>> Looking to shorten my reach a bit, and I'm wondering if one of you might 
>> be holding a Nitto Tallux 5 or 6cm stem (25.4, 225mm). I'm happy to 
>> purchase or I have an 8cm, 26.0 for trade.
>>
>> Cheers, John
>>
>

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[RBW] Feeler: ISO extra-small 26er?

[Michael Morrissey]

Hi Everyone,

I'm thinking about getting a new bike for my wife. Currently, she has a 
Trek FX. She likes it a lot, but I can't help but think it doesn't fit her 
right. She is 5 feet tall, yet the bike has 700x35 tires. The frame is 
small but I think it's crazy to have an extra-small bike with the biggest 
wheel size. Google "Trek FX 13 inch" and look at this ridiculously 
proportioned bicycle. It looks like a penny-farthing.

I think she would be much more comfortable on a steel 26" wheeled bike. I 
especially like it because I already own 3 vintage 26" mountain bikes as 
parts sources. She has expressed interest in getting a lighter bike, more 
roadish, with drop bars. She really likes the color blue, so I want to get 
her a blue bike. I spoke with a local custom builder, who loved the idea 
and quoted me $1800 for a custom frame. 

I've got an eBay notification going for the Surly Long Haul Trucker in 
extra-small 42cm. This would check all my boxes. 

I was wondering if anyone has experience (or ones they will get rid of 
cheap) with the smallest of touring bikes: 
Joe Appaloosa in 46cm
Atlantis in 47cm?
Surly Long Haul Trucker or Disc Trucker in 42cm
Clem Smith / Clementine in 45cm 
Buy another old Gary Fisher and add drop bars and call it a day? 
Others???

I'd even consider a 24" wheeled bike for her. Crust bikes made a Romanceur 
in 24". Salsa makes a 24" gravel bike that looks really nice too.

If anyone has one we could try, we are in NYC.

Thanks! 

Michael 

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Woolywarm Sweater Vest and/or Cardigan

[Michael Ullmer]

Bump on this and clarifying that a Large is what'll fit. I've had a couple 
folks reach out with an XL and XXL, and both are too large based on 
measurements. Thanks all!

On Friday, December 29, 2023 at 6:05:38 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> I just picked up a Woolywarm Cheviot Sweater over the holidays and have 
> been loving it and would like to add a vest or Cardigan to the collection. 
> I expect a large or XL will fit. If you have anything give a shout!
>
> Mike in Minneapolis
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[RBW] Re: WTPF - Nitto Noodle, Albastache, and 70mm Tallux stem

[Michael Baquerizo]

would be happy to cover shipping on the talkux  please let me know if avail 
On Sunday, December 17, 2023 at 7:06:30 PM UTC-5 J Imler wrote:

> I’m open to the drops and stem is available.
>
> On Sunday, December 17, 2023 at 2:17:00 PM UTC-8 modemm...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> (WTPF = Want To Pay Forward)
>>
>> In this case - the people here have been so kind and helpful I'd like to 
>> give back. 
>>
>> I have as spare parts 2 Nitto handlebars - a Noodle and and Albastache - 
>> plus a 70mm Tallux stem. They're free for the asking; I just ask you cover 
>> shipping. 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: When were butterscotch Appaloosas made?

[Michael Morrissey]

I bought my butterscotch Appaloosa frame on March 8, 2016. Will told me it 
was one of the last ones (if not the last one, maybe only the last one in 
55cm size) they had.

It is a great bike. I just rode it to work today in freezing weather 7.5 
miles in.

Side note: I really wish someone would start putting together a list of 
production numbers, years, and colors the bikes came in. I have a small 
hunch Rivendell bikes will be very collectible years from now still, in the 
same way Serottas, Ibises, or Fat Chances are collectible now. 

Michael

On Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 9:10:35 PM UTC-5 Eric Grim wrote:

> Does anyone remember, in what year (or years) were butterscotch-colored 
> Appaloosas made?  The 2018 frames catalog lists blue and silver ones.  The 
> website presently offers them in purple and olive.  Mine's butterscotch, 
> but I don't remember when I bought it.  Pre-pandemic, I think it was . . .
>
> Thanks in advance for any hints.
>
> Eric Grim (Spokane, just a little ways North of the Palouse)
>

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[RBW] VBC chainring swap?

[Michael Baquerizo]

hi all - i took my VBC chainrings off my appaloosa and theyre going on to a 
bob jackson audax frame that has a braze on for front derailleur, ie i need 
to use a certain size ring to get my front derailleur to work. thinking 
anyhting from 46-50 would be ideal for the big ring, and 36-38 or so for 
the small ring? Mine is a 38 / 24

TLDR I'd like to trade my not really used so much (i dunno, 200 miles MAX?) 
38/24 for a bigger set, 46-50/36-38, give or take. 

not sure why i can't get the photo to work but shows some anodizing loss 
but no change to shape, shark finning, etc. 




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[RBW] Re: Tigr locks--do you like them? On sale today

[Michael Ullmer]

I have the Tigr Mini and have used it for the past 4+ years. It seems quite 
secure and allows me to get a front wheel/frame locked in most cases. I 
usually pair mine with a cable to get the rear wheel. I'd recommend it if 
you'd like to shed the weight of a heavy Kryptonite u-lock.

On Monday, November 27, 2023 at 1:05:26 PM UTC-6 Roberta wrote:

> What do you think of these locks for high bike theft area?
>
> I got an email for Tigr locks 20% off if purchased today using code 
> CyBrMonday23.  The website is tigrlock.com . 
>
> Looks like they have two types-- the "blue" type around $115 and the 
> regular one, $160.
>
> Right now, I use an Arbus and a Kryptonite New York.  Very heavy lock, but 
> I know my bike will be there when I come out of the store.
>
> Thanks,
> Roberta
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Kid's First Pedal Bike (Riv parent edition)

[Michael Baquerizo]

for the same reason people seem to like woom i've tried to avoid it. kinda 
fits in line (IMO) with liking rivendell. its a bit off the beaten path. 

with that said, we came upon our kids first bike through a buy nothing 
group on facebook. the brand is kokua, and it weighs less than most if not 
all the balance bikes on the market. weight weenie i am not, but a kid 
needs a light bike. and a parent needs a light bike when theyre forced to 
carry it.

i liked the bike enough that when it came time to bump up to the next size 
(with pedals this time) i searched for a used kokua 16 pedal bike. unlike 
woom, they DON'T hold their value that well so when i found one i ended up 
only paying $100 for it. 


On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 9:35:39 PM UTC-5 J wrote:

> The Woom 3 was perfect for a 4 year old who just could'nt grasp balancing 
> once the training wheels were taken off. I truly beleive that training 
> wheels hinder a kid from learning to ride, the balance bikes are the way to 
> go. The day the Woom arrives I removed the pedals and had the kiddo ride it 
> like his balance bike 15 minutes later I put the pedals back on and he rode 
> off into the sunset never to be seen again. Woom for the win!
>
> J
>
> On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 2:56:28 PM UTC-5 fiddl...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Folks - thank you so much for all of your incredibly helpful & thoughtful 
>> responses! I've read through each one multiple times and feel so much 
>> better informed now and can't wait to transition to the pedaling years with 
>> my son!
>>
>> Nick
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 3:55:09 PM UTC-5 Nick Shoemaker wrote:
>>
>>> Since RBW regrettably doesn't make kids hillibikes, I'm going to have to 
>>> go a bit outside of my comfort zone to pick out a first pedal bike for my 
>>> son. He's ~3.5yo, and more than ready to move up from his 12" balance bike.
>>>
>>> Any tips from other parents who have recently gone through the switch 
>>> from balance to pedals? I'm leaning toward something like a Woom 3 (16"), 
>>> since they seem to be very well regarded, and I'm afraid he would outgrow a 
>>> 14" bike too soon at this point to justify the expense. (am I wrong?) 
>>> Probably also worth noting that a lot of his riding is currently on trails, 
>>> so I'm definitely looking for something that will work well off-pavement, 
>>> too. Anyhow, I'll take any advice the group is willing to throw at me - 
>>> thanks in advance for your help!
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Fillet Faceplater Stem - 85mm 31.8

[Michael Ullmer]

Sold

On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 2:27:30 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Last of the parts to list here that came off my Trek 640. This is a 
> gorgeous Nitto Fillet Faceplater Quill Stem, 85mm Extension with a 31.8 
> Clamp.
>
> $110 plus shipping or trade toward a 90mm Lugged Nitto Quill Stem
>
> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/BFQHqFJpyi4GNm698
>
> Mike in Minneapolis
>

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[RBW] FS: Nitto Fillet Faceplater Stem - 85mm 31.8

[Michael Ullmer]

Last of the parts to list here that came off my Trek 640. This is a 
gorgeous Nitto Fillet Faceplater Quill Stem, 85mm Extension with a 31.8 
Clamp.

$110 plus shipping or trade toward a 90mm Lugged Nitto Quill Stem

Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/BFQHqFJpyi4GNm698

Mike in Minneapolis

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Campee 27F 700c Front Rack

[Michael Ullmer]

And sold

On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 11:27:04 AM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> I used this on my 650b'd Trek 640 that I'm slowly parting out. Comes with 
> straight struts (attached) and short struts that attact directly to 
> canti-mounts. In great shape, stickers show some wear.
>
> $175 plus shipping via Pirateship
>
> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/jzjGAz9oAdjuCuFa6
>
> Mike in Minneapolis
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[RBW] FS: Nitto Campee 27F 700c Front Rack

[Michael Ullmer]

I used this on my 650b'd Trek 640 that I'm slowly parting out. Comes with 
straight struts (attached) and short struts that attact directly to 
canti-mounts. In great shape, stickers show some wear.

$175 plus shipping via Pirateship

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Mike in Minneapolis

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[RBW] Re: FS: Mission Workshop R6 40L Bag with Accessories

[Michael Ullmer]

Sold

On Tuesday, November 7, 2023 at 12:58:50 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Bump, now selling without the side pockets for $200 plus shipping
>
> On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 8:57:48 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> Bump and a price drop, $280 plus shipping
>>
>> On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 1:40:22 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>
>>> I cobbled this R6 together with all the accessories I could ever want, 
>>> but I'm not a big fan of the Arkiv system and prefer my fully integrated 
>>> Blaqpak Backpack for winter commuting duty with a backpack (which started 
>>> this morning with a brisk and icy ride into Downtown MPLS on a well used 
>>> 1x1).
>>>
>>> Bag itself shows nice patina, no rips/holes in the waxed canvas. All 
>>> straps/zips work great. Comes with:
>>>
>>> R6 40L Brown Waxed Canvas Backpack 
>>> Laptop Sleeve
>>> Rolltop Side Pocket
>>> Vertical Side Pocket 
>>> Waxed Canvas Tool Pouch
>>> Removable Hip Strap
>>> Cobra Buckle
>>>
>>> Total retail value of backpack with all accessories - $675 plus tax
>>>
>>> Looking to get $300 plus shipping costs via Pirateship.
>>>
>>> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/Fyue9v7u1HbhmygQA
>>>
>>> Mike in Minneapolis
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Mission Workshop R6 40L Bag with Accessories

[Michael Ullmer]

Bump, now selling without the side pockets for $200 plus shipping

On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 8:57:48 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Bump and a price drop, $280 plus shipping
>
> On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 1:40:22 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> I cobbled this R6 together with all the accessories I could ever want, 
>> but I'm not a big fan of the Arkiv system and prefer my fully integrated 
>> Blaqpak Backpack for winter commuting duty with a backpack (which started 
>> this morning with a brisk and icy ride into Downtown MPLS on a well used 
>> 1x1).
>>
>> Bag itself shows nice patina, no rips/holes in the waxed canvas. All 
>> straps/zips work great. Comes with:
>>
>> R6 40L Brown Waxed Canvas Backpack 
>> Laptop Sleeve
>> Rolltop Side Pocket
>> Vertical Side Pocket 
>> Waxed Canvas Tool Pouch
>> Removable Hip Strap
>> Cobra Buckle
>>
>> Total retail value of backpack with all accessories - $675 plus tax
>>
>> Looking to get $300 plus shipping costs via Pirateship.
>>
>> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/Fyue9v7u1HbhmygQA
>>
>> Mike in Minneapolis
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Mission Workshop R6 40L Bag with Accessories

[Michael Ullmer]

Bump and a price drop, $280 plus shipping

On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 1:40:22 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> I cobbled this R6 together with all the accessories I could ever want, but 
> I'm not a big fan of the Arkiv system and prefer my fully integrated 
> Blaqpak Backpack for winter commuting duty with a backpack (which started 
> this morning with a brisk and icy ride into Downtown MPLS on a well used 
> 1x1).
>
> Bag itself shows nice patina, no rips/holes in the waxed canvas. All 
> straps/zips work great. Comes with:
>
> R6 40L Brown Waxed Canvas Backpack 
> Laptop Sleeve
> Rolltop Side Pocket
> Vertical Side Pocket 
> Waxed Canvas Tool Pouch
> Removable Hip Strap
> Cobra Buckle
>
> Total retail value of backpack with all accessories - $675 plus tax
>
> Looking to get $300 plus shipping costs via Pirateship.
>
> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/Fyue9v7u1HbhmygQA
>
> Mike in Minneapolis
>

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[RBW] FS: Mission Workshop R6 40L Bag with Accessories

[Michael Ullmer]

I cobbled this R6 together with all the accessories I could ever want, but 
I'm not a big fan of the Arkiv system and prefer my fully integrated 
Blaqpak Backpack for winter commuting duty with a backpack (which started 
this morning with a brisk and icy ride into Downtown MPLS on a well used 
1x1).

Bag itself shows nice patina, no rips/holes in the waxed canvas. All 
straps/zips work great. Comes with:

R6 40L Brown Waxed Canvas Backpack 
Laptop Sleeve
Rolltop Side Pocket
Vertical Side Pocket 
Waxed Canvas Tool Pouch
Removable Hip Strap
Cobra Buckle

Total retail value of backpack with all accessories - $675 plus tax

Looking to get $300 plus shipping costs via Pirateship.

Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/Fyue9v7u1HbhmygQA

Mike in Minneapolis

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[RBW] Re: FS: White Industries, Thomson, Compass, Simworks, Coffee Set-up

[Michael Ullmer]

I'm holding on to the WI Bottom Bracket, so only the Little Nick bars remain

On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 8:50:53 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> An update on what remains and a price drop:
>
> 2) White Industries Stainless Steel Bottom Bracket 113mm - $65
> --Selling for what I paid. I ended up neeting a longer BB (118mm) for my 
> Ram.
>
> 4) Simworks Little Nick Steal Bar 31.8 Heat Treated - $65
> --I never used these, but they have been used by a previous owner. Bought 
> them for a neighbor's build, but she ended up going with different bars. 
> More info here: 
> https://global.bluelug.com/sim-works-little-nick-stealth-bar.html
> On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 11:01:25 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> One more purge. Price don't include shipping, will ship using Pirateship.
>>
>> 1) Thomson Masterpiece Setback Seatpost 27.2 x330 Uncut - $70
>> --In great shape, the top seems to have some material filed off by the 
>> previous owner for saddle clearance. Not noticeable while installed (I 
>> hadn't noticed for the past 2+ years this was on my Fitz). I'm replacing 
>> with a Paul Ti and Handsome post with more setback.
>>
>> 2) White Industries Stainless Steel Bottom Bracket 113mm - $70
>> --Selling for what I paid. I ended up neeting a longer BB (118mm) for my 
>> Ram.
>>
>> 3) Compass Babyshoe Pass 650x42 Tan Extralight - $75
>> --Extras after tearing down my 650b Trek and converting my ram to 650x48. 
>> These are the two tires from thoes builds with the most tread left.
>>
>> 4) Simworks Little Nick Steal Bar 31.8 Heat Treated - $70
>> --I never used these, but they have been used by a previous owner. Bought 
>> them for a neighbor's build, but she ended up going with different bars. 
>> More info here: 
>> https://global.bluelug.com/sim-works-little-nick-stealth-bar.html
>>
>> 5) Titanium Vargo Camp Stove/GSI Titanium Pot/Fuel Bottle Bundle - $50
>> --GSI 1500ml pot with windscreen. Vargo Titanium Decagon Stove. Fuel 
>> Bottle. I used this set-up for my coffee outside trips, but switched to the 
>> Jetboil we use for backpacking instead.
>>
>> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/w5GKoHJkR1ArKJmt9
>>
>> Mike in Minneapolis
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Dia Compe Gran Compe 610 Centerpull Brakes

[Michael Baquerizo]

its alwHs unclear if ive sent a message on iphone, but im intere in these 
so please let me know what next steps are

On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 12:33:00 PM UTC-4 bunny...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Whoops. I did not realize that! Thank you.
> [image: brakes 2.jpeg][image: brakes 3.jpeg][image: brakes 1.jpeg]
>
> On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 9:30:18 AM UTC-7 cycli...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> mages can only be viewed by creating a Paceline account.   May have 
>> better luck if you post pics on this thread.
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 11:10:47 AM UTC-7 bunny...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dia Compe Gran Compe 610 centerpull brakes.
>>> Comes with straddle cables and hangers.
>>> Recessed nut.
>>>
>>> Amazing brakes, but the spring tension was a bit high for me.
>>>
>>> $110 for the set, shipped in the L48
>>>
>>> Photos are easiest to find here. 
>>> https://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=300992
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Ben Adrian
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: White Industries, Thomson, Compass, Simworks, Coffee Set-up

[Michael Ullmer]

An update on what remains and a price drop:

2) White Industries Stainless Steel Bottom Bracket 113mm - $65
--Selling for what I paid. I ended up neeting a longer BB (118mm) for my 
Ram.

4) Simworks Little Nick Steal Bar 31.8 Heat Treated - $65
--I never used these, but they have been used by a previous owner. Bought 
them for a neighbor's build, but she ended up going with different bars. 
More info here: 
https://global.bluelug.com/sim-works-little-nick-stealth-bar.html

On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 11:01:25 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> One more purge. Price don't include shipping, will ship using Pirateship.
>
> 1) Thomson Masterpiece Setback Seatpost 27.2 x330 Uncut - $70
> --In great shape, the top seems to have some material filed off by the 
> previous owner for saddle clearance. Not noticeable while installed (I 
> hadn't noticed for the past 2+ years this was on my Fitz). I'm replacing 
> with a Paul Ti and Handsome post with more setback.
>
> 2) White Industries Stainless Steel Bottom Bracket 113mm - $70
> --Selling for what I paid. I ended up neeting a longer BB (118mm) for my 
> Ram.
>
> 3) Compass Babyshoe Pass 650x42 Tan Extralight - $75
> --Extras after tearing down my 650b Trek and converting my ram to 650x48. 
> These are the two tires from thoes builds with the most tread left.
>
> 4) Simworks Little Nick Steal Bar 31.8 Heat Treated - $70
> --I never used these, but they have been used by a previous owner. Bought 
> them for a neighbor's build, but she ended up going with different bars. 
> More info here: 
> https://global.bluelug.com/sim-works-little-nick-stealth-bar.html
>
> 5) Titanium Vargo Camp Stove/GSI Titanium Pot/Fuel Bottle Bundle - $50
> --GSI 1500ml pot with windscreen. Vargo Titanium Decagon Stove. Fuel 
> Bottle. I used this set-up for my coffee outside trips, but switched to the 
> Jetboil we use for backpacking instead.
>
> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/w5GKoHJkR1ArKJmt9
>
> Mike in Minneapolis
>

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[RBW] Re: Bedrock Mountain Clogs in Stock!

[Michael Ullmer]

I concur! I got mine over the weekend and went with a size 13, though I 
usually wear size 11-12 in most shoes. I compared the length with the Size 
11 Crocs that these are replacing and the size 13 Mountain Clogs were the 
same length.

On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 11:22:04 AM UTC-5 Joe A. wrote:

> I received mine and they are great. I can confirm that they run a little 
> smaller than I expected for those that are still considering sizing. 
>
> On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 8:14:32 PM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I was so excited for the restock! I didn’t see the email before I took my 
>> daughter to school. In those 30 or so minutes, my size was sold out in the 
>> full leather. Hopefully I don’t have to wait another year for a 30 minute 
>> window. 
>>
>> On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 4:05:09 AM UTC-7 maxcr wrote:
>>
>>> I had reached out to supporr, here is what they said:  Most folks are 
>>> wearing the *same size in the Clogs and the Cairns, however I would say 
>>> if you have a more snug fit in your sandals (not much wiggle room), you may 
>>> need to size up in the clogs. Hope this helps!*
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 27, 2023 at 9:45:32 PM UTC-4 Teague Scott wrote:
>>>
 Wow these are cool. Thanks for getting them on my radar. Wondering 
 whether sizing runs true to their sandals...

 On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 1:29:47 PM UTC-6 Calvin Yolo wrote:

> I had the leather ones and just purchased the green suede as a back up 
> pair. I have a ton of miles walked in my first pair and I'll probably 
> have 
> these in rotation for as long as they make them.
>
> On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 9:25:26 AM UTC-7 Joe A. wrote:
>
>> Hey Riv Fam,
>>
>> For any of those curious about these clogs they're finally back in 
>> stock. I snagged a pair of them in Nubuck Leather. Should be great for 
>> fall 
>> riding :)
>>
>> https://bedrocksandals.com/collections/bedrock-mountain-clogs
>>
>> Happy riding!
>>
>> - J
>>
>

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[RBW] FS: White Industries, Thomson, Compass, Simworks, Coffee Set-up

[Michael Ullmer]

One more purge. Price don't include shipping, will ship using Pirateship.

1) Thomson Masterpiece Setback Seatpost 27.2 x330 Uncut - $70
--In great shape, the top seems to have some material filed off by the 
previous owner for saddle clearance. Not noticeable while installed (I 
hadn't noticed for the past 2+ years this was on my Fitz). I'm replacing 
with a Paul Ti and Handsome post with more setback.

2) White Industries Stainless Steel Bottom Bracket 113mm - $70
--Selling for what I paid. I ended up neeting a longer BB (118mm) for my 
Ram.

3) Compass Babyshoe Pass 650x42 Tan Extralight - $75
--Extras after tearing down my 650b Trek and converting my ram to 650x48. 
These are the two tires from thoes builds with the most tread left.

4) Simworks Little Nick Steal Bar 31.8 Heat Treated - $70
--I never used these, but they have been used by a previous owner. Bought 
them for a neighbor's build, but she ended up going with different bars. 
More info here: 
https://global.bluelug.com/sim-works-little-nick-stealth-bar.html

5) Titanium Vargo Camp Stove/GSI Titanium Pot/Fuel Bottle Bundle - $50
--GSI 1500ml pot with windscreen. Vargo Titanium Decagon Stove. Fuel 
Bottle. I used this set-up for my coffee outside trips, but switched to the 
Jetboil we use for backpacking instead.

Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/w5GKoHJkR1ArKJmt9

Mike in Minneapolis

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[RBW] Re: Expert level bike commuting strategies?

[Michael McArthur]

Lots of good advice here. On the head space front, I have a couple positive 
thoughts that I keep bouncing around - cycle commutes are the only time I 
get paid to ride my bike. The $$ saved over other commuting modes means 
cycling isn't just an expensive hobby. I also consider the exercise of my 
9mi commute with 430' of climbing to be the easiest way to find time in my 
day to get the heart pumping. I mean, I'd have to spend time commuting 
anyways. 

I've landed on tubes instead of sealant for the lack of hassle of 
maintaining tire pressure and drying sealant. I pump up 1x per week to keep 
my 29/30 psi. On carrying stuff in, my strategy is to leave a pair of shoes 
& towel at the office to lighten the load. I have the equivalent of one 
pannier worth of stuff to bring, so use a porteur rack & bag to keep it all 
centred. Fenders and 650x48 slicks stay on year-round to manage lousy 
pavement while enjoying the ride. 

Lastly, commuting is great way to make sure you bike is ready for the 
longer weekend rides. You can fine-tune fit and ensure everything is 
working before you headed to the riverside camp spot. 

Hope this helps. 



On Friday, 27 October 2023 at 14:47:44 UTC-7 velomann wrote:

> I really can't add much to what's already been said, but these would be my 
> own main points based on 5-days/week bike commuting for over 20 years. Most 
> of that was about 11 mostly flat miles each way, one year of 16+ miles each 
> way with more stressful traffic and a couple big hills, and now averaging 
> about 6-7 miles each way (I'm technically "retired,: but still working 
> 5-days/week.)
>
> If you can keep a change of clothes at the destination, that's helpful. At 
> the minimum, if you can keep a pair or 2 of work shoes at work, that's 
> super-helpful and cuts down on the load.
>
> If you have a quiet commute (it doesn't sound like you do) 
> podcasts/audiobooks can liven things up. But safety first.
>
> I ran Orange Seal in tubes for several years when I was commuting through 
> flat-prone areas and it helped a lot with flats. 
>
> For commuting, don't allow yourself to get caught up in any feeling that 
> you need "performance" whatever for your bike. Reliability and durability 
> are far more important for the daily grind. This is especially true for 
> tires. The shop I work at, which caters almost exclusively to bike 
> commuters, only sells Schwalbe Marathon tires. They're not flat proof, but 
> about as close as you can get.
>
> Habits are not developed overnight. For bike commuting to become a habit, 
> you gotta stick with it. Soon enough, driving becomes much less appealing. 
>
> Mike M
>
> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 7:26:25 AM UTC-7 Michael Morrissey wrote:
>
>> Lately I have been biking to work again, from my home in Queens to work 
>> in Manhattan. Unfortunately, my commute is less than ideal. There are few 
>> bike lanes in my neighborhood. I leave at 6:30, when it’s dark and cold 
>> outside. There are lots of big trucks and fast drivers. It’s hilly. Then, 
>> when I get to the bike lane section of the ride, it’s crowded with electric 
>> bikes, deliveristas, and stand-up electric scooters. 
>>
>> My commute is 7.8 miles point to point, and I make it in about 53 
>> minutes. I started keeping track of my times on Strava. I like looking at 
>> my records (eastbound across Central Park in 1:40!) but I feel Strava is 
>> mostly a record of how long I get stuck at red lights. There are so many 
>> stoplights that I struggle to raise my average speed over 11 MPH. 
>>
>> I use one Ortlieb bag, and I’ve tried to lighten my load as much as 
>> possible. Yet, I still feel like I am carrying a lot to work. One thing 
>> I’ve been doing is rolling my work clothes and putting rubber bands around 
>> them. That helps with the organization.
>>
>> I’m riding my Rivendell Appaloosa with a big back rack and fenders. 
>> Fortunately, even after riding it for about 7 years, the bike still feels 
>> amazing. I also feel great getting so much exercise, and I find I feel I 
>> have more energy on days I ride compared to when I take the subway.
>>
>> I was wondering if anyone has any bike commuting advice? I’m finding it 
>> hard to stay motivated. I want advanced level advice - not just “keep your 
>> tires pumped up,” but more along the lines of “Buy 5 Bromptons and have 
>> your wife drop them off at work every Sunday so you can ride one home per 
>> day.” One thing I might try is a lighter wheelset on the same bike. As Bill 
>> Lindsay said, “If everybody had a gravity knob on their bike, we would all 
>> peg it to the minimum.”
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] FS: Nitto, White Industries, Shimano, Suntour, Thomson

[Michael Ullmer]

All sold, thanks all

On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 9:17:45 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Only the seatpost remains
>
> On Friday, October 27, 2023 at 2:08:35 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> Flyer saddle and levers are gone, open to offers on the Nitto Seatpost 
>> and Thomson Stem
>>
>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 9:00:26 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>
>>> Bump and price drop on what remains:
>>>
>>> 1) Nitto NJ SP72 Jaguar Seatpost - $80
>>> --Some scuffs here and there, but generally pretty great shape. 27.2 and 
>>> for standard rail width (44mm)
>>>
>>> 2) Brooks Flyer Saddle - $65
>>> --Some marks around the edges and some light cracking in the leather. It 
>>> has been treated with proofride.
>>>
>>> 4) Thomson X4 90mm 31.8 0 Deg - $45
>>>
>>> 7) Shimano Exage Brake Levers - free with any purchase
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 10:45:22 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>>
>>>> Barcons and Steer Stopper are sold.
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 6:50:42 AM UTC-5 RBW Owners Bunch 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Apologies, it's 27.2
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 6:35 AM Richard Rose  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael, assuming the seatpost is not 26.8?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 25, 2023, at 12:18 AM, Michael Ullmer  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm tearing down my 650b'd Trek 640 to send to a friend and have 
>>>>>> some extra parts to pass along plus a few more from the parts bin. 
>>>>>> Prices 
>>>>>> don't include shipping, will be shipped using Pirateship:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) Nitto NJ SP72 Jaguar Seatpost - $85
>>>>>> --Some scuffs here and there, but generally pretty great shape.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) Brooks Flyer Saddle - $75
>>>>>> --Some marks around the edges and some light cracking in the leather. 
>>>>>> It has been treated with proofride.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3) White Industries ENO 18t Freewheel - $60
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4) Thomson X4 90mm 31.8 0 Deg - $60
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 5) Steer Stopper Mechanism - $75
>>>>>> --This is intended for standard diameter top tube (25.4) and a quill 
>>>>>> stem. I bought new a couple months ago. More info here: 
>>>>>> https://steerstopper.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 6) Suntour Barcons - $40
>>>>>> --Great shape, all hardware/nuts included.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 7) Shimano Exage Brake Levers - free with any purchase
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/nG1Uja4xfHsT5e2D9
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For trades, I'm looking for a White Industries T11 32H Black Rear Hub.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PM off-list, thanks!
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Re: [RBW] FS: Nitto, White Industries, Shimano, Suntour, Thomson

[Michael Ullmer]

Only the seatpost remains

On Friday, October 27, 2023 at 2:08:35 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Flyer saddle and levers are gone, open to offers on the Nitto Seatpost and 
> Thomson Stem
>
> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 9:00:26 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> Bump and price drop on what remains:
>>
>> 1) Nitto NJ SP72 Jaguar Seatpost - $80
>> --Some scuffs here and there, but generally pretty great shape. 27.2 and 
>> for standard rail width (44mm)
>>
>> 2) Brooks Flyer Saddle - $65
>> --Some marks around the edges and some light cracking in the leather. It 
>> has been treated with proofride.
>>
>> 4) Thomson X4 90mm 31.8 0 Deg - $45
>>
>> 7) Shimano Exage Brake Levers - free with any purchase
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 10:45:22 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>
>>> Barcons and Steer Stopper are sold.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 6:50:42 AM UTC-5 RBW Owners Bunch 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Apologies, it's 27.2
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 6:35 AM Richard Rose  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Michael, assuming the seatpost is not 26.8?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 25, 2023, at 12:18 AM, Michael Ullmer  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm tearing down my 650b'd Trek 640 to send to a friend and have some 
>>>>> extra parts to pass along plus a few more from the parts bin. Prices 
>>>>> don't 
>>>>> include shipping, will be shipped using Pirateship:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Nitto NJ SP72 Jaguar Seatpost - $85
>>>>> --Some scuffs here and there, but generally pretty great shape.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) Brooks Flyer Saddle - $75
>>>>> --Some marks around the edges and some light cracking in the leather. 
>>>>> It has been treated with proofride.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) White Industries ENO 18t Freewheel - $60
>>>>>
>>>>> 4) Thomson X4 90mm 31.8 0 Deg - $60
>>>>>
>>>>> 5) Steer Stopper Mechanism - $75
>>>>> --This is intended for standard diameter top tube (25.4) and a quill 
>>>>> stem. I bought new a couple months ago. More info here: 
>>>>> https://steerstopper.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> 6) Suntour Barcons - $40
>>>>> --Great shape, all hardware/nuts included.
>>>>>
>>>>> 7) Shimano Exage Brake Levers - free with any purchase
>>>>>
>>>>> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/nG1Uja4xfHsT5e2D9
>>>>>
>>>>> For trades, I'm looking for a White Industries T11 32H Black Rear Hub.
>>>>>
>>>>> PM off-list, thanks!
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[RBW] Re: FS: Rene Herse 9-12 Speed Double Cranks 177mm 48/33

[Michael Ullmer]

Sold

On Friday, October 27, 2023 at 4:59:18 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> I'm going a different direction with a build and sticking with White 
> Industries cranks. These have no miles on them. 177mm length and 48/33 
> rings. More info here:
>
> I was sold these thinking that they were the Double Crankset version, but 
> based on the 48/33 stamp on the outer ring, I believe they're actually the 
> 9-12 speed type. 
>
>
> https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/cranks/rh-11-speed-double-cranks/
>
> $350 plus shipping via Pirateship
>
> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/25Ei5EZgqCweRTbx6
>
> For trades, I'm looking for Short Pull Post Mount Paul Klampers in black.
>
> PM off-list
>
> Mike in Minneapolis
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[RBW] FS: Rene Herse 9-12 Speed Double Cranks 177mm 48/33

[Michael Ullmer]

I'm going a different direction with a build and sticking with White 
Industries cranks. These have no miles on them. 177mm length and 48/33 
rings. More info here:

I was sold these thinking that they were the Double Crankset version, but 
based on the 48/33 stamp on the outer ring, I believe they're actually the 
9-12 speed type. 

https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/cranks/rh-11-speed-double-cranks/

$350 plus shipping via Pirateship

Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/25Ei5EZgqCweRTbx6

For trades, I'm looking for Short Pull Post Mount Paul Klampers in black.

PM off-list

Mike in Minneapolis

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Re: [RBW] FS: Nitto, White Industries, Shimano, Suntour, Thomson

[Michael Ullmer]

Flyer saddle and levers are gone, open to offers on the Nitto Seatpost and 
Thomson Stem

On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 9:00:26 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Bump and price drop on what remains:
>
> 1) Nitto NJ SP72 Jaguar Seatpost - $80
> --Some scuffs here and there, but generally pretty great shape. 27.2 and 
> for standard rail width (44mm)
>
> 2) Brooks Flyer Saddle - $65
> --Some marks around the edges and some light cracking in the leather. It 
> has been treated with proofride.
>
> 4) Thomson X4 90mm 31.8 0 Deg - $45
>
> 7) Shimano Exage Brake Levers - free with any purchase
>
> On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 10:45:22 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> Barcons and Steer Stopper are sold.
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 6:50:42 AM UTC-5 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>>
>>> Apologies, it's 27.2
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 6:35 AM Richard Rose  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Michael, assuming the seatpost is not 26.8?
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 25, 2023, at 12:18 AM, Michael Ullmer  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm tearing down my 650b'd Trek 640 to send to a friend and have some 
>>>> extra parts to pass along plus a few more from the parts bin. Prices don't 
>>>> include shipping, will be shipped using Pirateship:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Nitto NJ SP72 Jaguar Seatpost - $85
>>>> --Some scuffs here and there, but generally pretty great shape.
>>>>
>>>> 2) Brooks Flyer Saddle - $75
>>>> --Some marks around the edges and some light cracking in the leather. 
>>>> It has been treated with proofride.
>>>>
>>>> 3) White Industries ENO 18t Freewheel - $60
>>>>
>>>> 4) Thomson X4 90mm 31.8 0 Deg - $60
>>>>
>>>> 5) Steer Stopper Mechanism - $75
>>>> --This is intended for standard diameter top tube (25.4) and a quill 
>>>> stem. I bought new a couple months ago. More info here: 
>>>> https://steerstopper.com/
>>>>
>>>> 6) Suntour Barcons - $40
>>>> --Great shape, all hardware/nuts included.
>>>>
>>>> 7) Shimano Exage Brake Levers - free with any purchase
>>>>
>>>> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/nG1Uja4xfHsT5e2D9
>>>>
>>>> For trades, I'm looking for a White Industries T11 32H Black Rear Hub.
>>>>
>>>> PM off-list, thanks!
>>>>
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Re: [RBW] FS: Nitto, White Industries, Shimano, Suntour, Thomson

[Michael Ullmer]

Bump and price drop on what remains:

1) Nitto NJ SP72 Jaguar Seatpost - $80
--Some scuffs here and there, but generally pretty great shape. 27.2 and 
for standard rail width (44mm)

2) Brooks Flyer Saddle - $65
--Some marks around the edges and some light cracking in the leather. It 
has been treated with proofride.

4) Thomson X4 90mm 31.8 0 Deg - $45

7) Shimano Exage Brake Levers - free with any purchase

On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 10:45:22 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Barcons and Steer Stopper are sold.
>
> On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 6:50:42 AM UTC-5 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>
>> Apologies, it's 27.2
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 6:35 AM Richard Rose  wrote:
>>
>>> Michael, assuming the seatpost is not 26.8?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Oct 25, 2023, at 12:18 AM, Michael Ullmer  wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm tearing down my 650b'd Trek 640 to send to a friend and have some 
>>> extra parts to pass along plus a few more from the parts bin. Prices don't 
>>> include shipping, will be shipped using Pirateship:
>>>
>>> 1) Nitto NJ SP72 Jaguar Seatpost - $85
>>> --Some scuffs here and there, but generally pretty great shape.
>>>
>>> 2) Brooks Flyer Saddle - $75
>>> --Some marks around the edges and some light cracking in the leather. It 
>>> has been treated with proofride.
>>>
>>> 3) White Industries ENO 18t Freewheel - $60
>>>
>>> 4) Thomson X4 90mm 31.8 0 Deg - $60
>>>
>>> 5) Steer Stopper Mechanism - $75
>>> --This is intended for standard diameter top tube (25.4) and a quill 
>>> stem. I bought new a couple months ago. More info here: 
>>> https://steerstopper.com/
>>>
>>> 6) Suntour Barcons - $40
>>> --Great shape, all hardware/nuts included.
>>>
>>> 7) Shimano Exage Brake Levers - free with any purchase
>>>
>>> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/nG1Uja4xfHsT5e2D9
>>>
>>> For trades, I'm looking for a White Industries T11 32H Black Rear Hub.
>>>
>>> PM off-list, thanks!
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Fenders for Roadeo

['Michael Kashuba' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I have aluminum fluted 63mm Velo Orange fenders on my orange 60 cm Appaloosa. Fit perfectly. No bending. Drilled one hole for added support/attachment to VO Campeur rear rack. Solid functional and handsome…… am considering mud flaps, but out here in Central Valley of California…… mud flaps…. Really?MJKSent from my iPhoneOn Oct 26, 2023, at 10:36 AM, BobW  wrote:Looking for thoughts on metal fenders for my Roadeo.  I believe the max tire size for fenders on a Roadeo is 32 or 33's???  So presuming a 45mm fender width works?  Ideally I would like to install metal fenders.  I have Berthouds on my Sam, and they are solid, work well, and look great.  Wondering if anyone has has a good experience for metal fenders on a Roadeo that  they can share??thanks!!Bob



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[RBW] Expert level bike commuting strategies?

[Michael Morrissey]

Lately I have been biking to work again, from my home in Queens to work in 
Manhattan. Unfortunately, my commute is less than ideal. There are few bike 
lanes in my neighborhood. I leave at 6:30, when it’s dark and cold outside. 
There are lots of big trucks and fast drivers. It’s hilly. Then, when I get 
to the bike lane section of the ride, it’s crowded with electric bikes, 
deliveristas, and stand-up electric scooters. 

My commute is 7.8 miles point to point, and I make it in about 53 minutes. 
I started keeping track of my times on Strava. I like looking at my records 
(eastbound across Central Park in 1:40!) but I feel Strava is mostly a 
record of how long I get stuck at red lights. There are so many stoplights 
that I struggle to raise my average speed over 11 MPH. 

I use one Ortlieb bag, and I’ve tried to lighten my load as much as 
possible. Yet, I still feel like I am carrying a lot to work. One thing 
I’ve been doing is rolling my work clothes and putting rubber bands around 
them. That helps with the organization.

I’m riding my Rivendell Appaloosa with a big back rack and fenders. 
Fortunately, even after riding it for about 7 years, the bike still feels 
amazing. I also feel great getting so much exercise, and I find I feel I 
have more energy on days I ride compared to when I take the subway.

I was wondering if anyone has any bike commuting advice? I’m finding it 
hard to stay motivated. I want advanced level advice - not just “keep your 
tires pumped up,” but more along the lines of “Buy 5 Bromptons and have 
your wife drop them off at work every Sunday so you can ride one home per 
day.” One thing I might try is a lighter wheelset on the same bike. As Bill 
Lindsay said, “If everybody had a gravity knob on their bike, we would all 
peg it to the minimum.”

Thanks,

Michael

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Re: [RBW] FS: Nitto, White Industries, Shimano, Suntour, Thomson

[Michael Ullmer]

Barcons and Steer Stopper are sold.

On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 6:50:42 AM UTC-5 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:

> Apologies, it's 27.2
>
> On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 6:35 AM Richard Rose  wrote:
>
>> Michael, assuming the seatpost is not 26.8?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 25, 2023, at 12:18 AM, Michael Ullmer  wrote:
>>
>> I'm tearing down my 650b'd Trek 640 to send to a friend and have some 
>> extra parts to pass along plus a few more from the parts bin. Prices don't 
>> include shipping, will be shipped using Pirateship:
>>
>> 1) Nitto NJ SP72 Jaguar Seatpost - $85
>> --Some scuffs here and there, but generally pretty great shape.
>>
>> 2) Brooks Flyer Saddle - $75
>> --Some marks around the edges and some light cracking in the leather. It 
>> has been treated with proofride.
>>
>> 3) White Industries ENO 18t Freewheel - $60
>>
>> 4) Thomson X4 90mm 31.8 0 Deg - $60
>>
>> 5) Steer Stopper Mechanism - $75
>> --This is intended for standard diameter top tube (25.4) and a quill 
>> stem. I bought new a couple months ago. More info here: 
>> https://steerstopper.com/
>>
>> 6) Suntour Barcons - $40
>> --Great shape, all hardware/nuts included.
>>
>> 7) Shimano Exage Brake Levers - free with any purchase
>>
>> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/nG1Uja4xfHsT5e2D9
>>
>> For trades, I'm looking for a White Industries T11 32H Black Rear Hub.
>>
>> PM off-list, thanks!
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[RBW] FS: Nitto, White Industries, Shimano, Suntour, Thomson

[Michael Ullmer]

I'm tearing down my 650b'd Trek 640 to send to a friend and have some extra 
parts to pass along plus a few more from the parts bin. Prices don't 
include shipping, will be shipped using Pirateship:

1) Nitto NJ SP72 Jaguar Seatpost - $85
--Some scuffs here and there, but generally pretty great shape.

2) Brooks Flyer Saddle - $75
--Some marks around the edges and some light cracking in the leather. It 
has been treated with proofride.

3) White Industries ENO 18t Freewheel - $60

4) Thomson X4 90mm 31.8 0 Deg - $60

5) Steer Stopper Mechanism - $75
--This is intended for standard diameter top tube (25.4) and a quill stem. 
I bought new a couple months ago. More info here: https://steerstopper.com/

6) Suntour Barcons - $40
--Great shape, all hardware/nuts included.

7) Shimano Exage Brake Levers - free with any purchase

Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/nG1Uja4xfHsT5e2D9

For trades, I'm looking for a White Industries T11 32H Black Rear Hub.

PM off-list, thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Rapid Rise Resurrection

[Michael Connors]

Here is the pulley bolt 
 
https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/gear-spares/shimano-duraace-rd7700-pulley-bolt-y53m24000/?geoc=US



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[RBW] Re: FS: Soft Goods - Bontrager, Kitsbow, Dogbagz, Coffee Stuff, Riv MUSA

[Michael Ullmer]

Sold

On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 11:26:52 AM UTC-5 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:

> Last bump and price drop on the Dogbagz Panniers - $70 Shipped in the US
>
> On Tuesday, October 17, 2023 at 2:51:16 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> Only the MUSA Splats and Dogbagz Panniers remain of the for sale items. 
>> Happy to take offers on either.
>>
>> Prices are net to me and don't include shipping. Will ship using 
>> Pirateship:
>>
>> 4) Greenlite Tool Roll - Free with any purchase
>> --Don't remember when I got this. Made in Seattle, pretty dirty.
>>
>> 5) Map Case - Free with any purchase
>> --Picked this up from Swift Industries at a seconds sale many years back. 
>> It has some velcro on it to strap it to the top of a bag/basket/etc.
>>
>> 6) DogBagz Pannier - $80
>> --Big panniers made of cordura. Made by a small bagmaker out of Seattle (
>> https://www.instagram.com/dog_bagz/?hl=en). One main rolltop 
>> compartment, one flap pocket on the outside and water bottle pocket on one 
>> side.
>>
>> 9) MUSA Splats - $30
>> --I believe these are size A. I picked these up for my partner years ago, 
>> she never used them though. 
>>
>> 10) Seagull Bags /Organizer Accessory Bag - Free with any purchase
>> --This came with my first Seagull Messenger Bag I bought back in the 
>> early 2000s. Haven't used it in years.
>>
>> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/WigvTXQ8oiU65G3x7
>>
>> Mike in Minneapolis
>>
>> On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 9:21:11 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>
>>> Update on what's available and some price drops:
>>>
>>> Prices are net to me and don't include shipping. Will ship using 
>>> Pirateship:
>>>
>>> 1) Bontrager Commuting Knickers - Medium - $15
>>> --I've had these for years and wore them a lot back then, but haven't 
>>> really used them in the past 5+ years. Nice stretchy material. Shows some 
>>> wear, but no rips.
>>>
>>> 2) Kitsbow Gray Riding Polo Medium - $25
>>> --The tag's been cut out, so can't confirm material, but I expect its a 
>>> merino/poly blend. Small snap pocket on the front with integrated glasses 
>>> cleaner. No holes, tears, etc.
>>>
>>> 4) Greenlite Tool Roll - Free with any purchase
>>> --Don't remember when I got this. Made in Seattle, pretty dirty.
>>>
>>> 5) Map Case - Free with any purchase
>>> --Picked this up from Swift Industries at a seconds sale many years 
>>> back. It has some velcro on it to strap it to the top of a bag/basket/etc.
>>>
>>> 6) DogBagz Pannier - $80
>>> --Big panniers made of cordura. Made by a small bagmaker out of Seattle (
>>> https://www.instagram.com/dog_bagz/?hl=en). One main rolltop 
>>> compartment, one flap pocket on the outside and water bottle pocket on one 
>>> side.
>>>
>>> 9) MUSA Splats - $30
>>> --I believe these are size A. I picked these up for my partner years 
>>> ago, she never used them though. 
>>>
>>> 10) Seagull Bags /Organizer Accessory Bag - Free with any purchase
>>> --This came with my first Seagull Messenger Bag I bought back in the 
>>> early 2000s. Haven't used it in years.
>>>
>>> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/WigvTXQ8oiU65G3x7
>>>
>>> Mike in Minneapolis
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 10:22:23 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>>
>>>> Prices are net to me and don't include shipping. Will ship using 
>>>> Pirateship:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Bontrager Commuting Knickers - Medium - $15
>>>> --I've had these for years and wore them a lot back then, but haven't 
>>>> really used them in the past 5+ years. Nice stretchy material. Shows some 
>>>> wear, but no rips.
>>>>
>>>> 2) Kitsbow Gray Riding Polo Medium - $30
>>>> --The tag's been cut out, so can't confirm material, but I expect its a 
>>>> merino/poly blend. Small snap pocket on the front with integrated glasses 
>>>> cleaner. No holes, tears, etc.
>>>>
>>>> 3) Kitsbow Henley Red/Gray S/S Shirt - $35
>>>> --87.5% Merino, 12.5% Poly. Great condition, longer tail to cover you 
>>>> while riding.
>>>>
>>>> 4) Greenlite Tool Roll - Free with any purchase
>>>> --Don't remember when I got this. Made in Seattle, pretty dirty.
>>>>
>>>> 5) Map Case - Free with any purchase
>>>> --Picked this up 

[RBW] Re: FS: Soft Goods - Bontrager, Kitsbow, Dogbagz, Coffee Stuff, Riv MUSA

[Michael Ullmer]

Last bump and price drop on the Dogbagz Panniers - $70 Shipped in the US

On Tuesday, October 17, 2023 at 2:51:16 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Only the MUSA Splats and Dogbagz Panniers remain of the for sale items. 
> Happy to take offers on either.
>
> Prices are net to me and don't include shipping. Will ship using 
> Pirateship:
>
> 4) Greenlite Tool Roll - Free with any purchase
> --Don't remember when I got this. Made in Seattle, pretty dirty.
>
> 5) Map Case - Free with any purchase
> --Picked this up from Swift Industries at a seconds sale many years back. 
> It has some velcro on it to strap it to the top of a bag/basket/etc.
>
> 6) DogBagz Pannier - $80
> --Big panniers made of cordura. Made by a small bagmaker out of Seattle (
> https://www.instagram.com/dog_bagz/?hl=en). One main rolltop compartment, 
> one flap pocket on the outside and water bottle pocket on one side.
>
> 9) MUSA Splats - $30
> --I believe these are size A. I picked these up for my partner years ago, 
> she never used them though. 
>
> 10) Seagull Bags /Organizer Accessory Bag - Free with any purchase
> --This came with my first Seagull Messenger Bag I bought back in the early 
> 2000s. Haven't used it in years.
>
> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/WigvTXQ8oiU65G3x7
>
> Mike in Minneapolis
>
> On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 9:21:11 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> Update on what's available and some price drops:
>>
>> Prices are net to me and don't include shipping. Will ship using 
>> Pirateship:
>>
>> 1) Bontrager Commuting Knickers - Medium - $15
>> --I've had these for years and wore them a lot back then, but haven't 
>> really used them in the past 5+ years. Nice stretchy material. Shows some 
>> wear, but no rips.
>>
>> 2) Kitsbow Gray Riding Polo Medium - $25
>> --The tag's been cut out, so can't confirm material, but I expect its a 
>> merino/poly blend. Small snap pocket on the front with integrated glasses 
>> cleaner. No holes, tears, etc.
>>
>> 4) Greenlite Tool Roll - Free with any purchase
>> --Don't remember when I got this. Made in Seattle, pretty dirty.
>>
>> 5) Map Case - Free with any purchase
>> --Picked this up from Swift Industries at a seconds sale many years back. 
>> It has some velcro on it to strap it to the top of a bag/basket/etc.
>>
>> 6) DogBagz Pannier - $80
>> --Big panniers made of cordura. Made by a small bagmaker out of Seattle (
>> https://www.instagram.com/dog_bagz/?hl=en). One main rolltop 
>> compartment, one flap pocket on the outside and water bottle pocket on one 
>> side.
>>
>> 9) MUSA Splats - $30
>> --I believe these are size A. I picked these up for my partner years ago, 
>> she never used them though. 
>>
>> 10) Seagull Bags /Organizer Accessory Bag - Free with any purchase
>> --This came with my first Seagull Messenger Bag I bought back in the 
>> early 2000s. Haven't used it in years.
>>
>> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/WigvTXQ8oiU65G3x7
>>
>> Mike in Minneapolis
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 10:22:23 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>
>>> Prices are net to me and don't include shipping. Will ship using 
>>> Pirateship:
>>>
>>> 1) Bontrager Commuting Knickers - Medium - $15
>>> --I've had these for years and wore them a lot back then, but haven't 
>>> really used them in the past 5+ years. Nice stretchy material. Shows some 
>>> wear, but no rips.
>>>
>>> 2) Kitsbow Gray Riding Polo Medium - $30
>>> --The tag's been cut out, so can't confirm material, but I expect its a 
>>> merino/poly blend. Small snap pocket on the front with integrated glasses 
>>> cleaner. No holes, tears, etc.
>>>
>>> 3) Kitsbow Henley Red/Gray S/S Shirt - $35
>>> --87.5% Merino, 12.5% Poly. Great condition, longer tail to cover you 
>>> while riding.
>>>
>>> 4) Greenlite Tool Roll - Free with any purchase
>>> --Don't remember when I got this. Made in Seattle, pretty dirty.
>>>
>>> 5) Map Case - Free with any purchase
>>> --Picked this up from Swift Industries at a seconds sale many years 
>>> back. It has some velcro on it to strap it to the top of a bag/basket/etc.
>>>
>>> 6) DogBagz Pannier - $100
>>> --Big panniers made of cordura. Made by a small bagmaker out of Seattle (
>>> https://www.instagram.com/dog_bagz/?hl=en). One main rolltop 
>>> compartment, one flap pocket on the outside and water bottle pocket on one 
>>> side.
>>>
>>> 7) Soto Helix 

Re: [RBW] Re: Are Paul brakes worth the money?

[Michael McArthur]

I experienced the 'third design flaw' Max cites here whilst using Touring 
canti's and found it very frustrating. It limited my pad choice to very 
thin non-cartridge pads and choice of rims wider than 17mm inner width. I 
nearly ground off the extra lip that creates the pad/brake arm interference 
but instead just sold them. I've been much happier with the modern Shimano 
CX50/CX70 design and find it much more practical in every way. 

On Sunday, 15 October 2023 at 14:11:00 UTC-7 Max S wrote:

> I'll also chime in to say that Paul brakes have some advantageous features 
> (e.g., continuous spring tension adjustability), but also some features 
> that I find infuriating in actual use, and a few instances of downright 
> poor mechanical design. 
> One design flaw is the fully threaded mounting bolt on the Racer, which I 
> discussed in a slightly geeky thread on iBOB / with Mark Bulgier. It places 
> a stress riser precisely at the root, front of fork crown, where it should 
> be avoided at all costs. Perhaps the grade of the steel is above and beyond 
> what's been used in the past, but it would fail scrutiny in a basic 
> mechanical design class. 
> Another flaw has to do with using a separate steel sleeve fitting over the 
> canti stud. It puts the brake further out than it needs to, and the problem 
> it's presumably attempting to solve (warped studs, bearing corrosion?..) 
> creates problems with mounting in the first place, and is avoided entirely 
> by brass bushings on the majority of other brakes. I've encountered 
> problems mounting them on two frames, and a third frame I bought had one 
> VERY firmly stuck on the stud... Haven't had this issue with any of the 
> nearly two dozen conventional canti / V brakes I've used. 
> A third design flaw, IME, is the extra lip on the brake arm, forward of 
> and at 90% to the brake pad mounting hole, which limits how close the pad 
> can sit in the outboard direction. When trying to use this brake on bikes 
> with slightly narrower canti stud placement (which are good, from the 
> standpoint of minimizing pad dive), this extra lip creates rim clearance 
> problems. 
> But hey, you can get them in lots of colors, and they're US-made, and 
> they're made by an independent small shop, and they're a way to show you 
> care about your bike, which I do in plenty of other ways myself... And the 
> vast majority of us will not use them to the limit anyway. 
>
> I do like their brake levers, though! 
>
> - Max 
>
> On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 4:12:22 PM UTC-4 wboe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Cost was a significant part of my argument, for sure.  Also, Zestes will 
>> work with the normal spring anchors on most posts.  I am not a fan of 
>> Paul's spring solution - it's tidy but I found it finicky to adjust (and 
>> keep adjusted) on the one set of minimotos I owned.  That said, the Zeste 
>> brakes are non-trivial to install.  Took me an hour to do the first but was 
>> slightly quicker with the second set.
>>
>> Will
>>
>> On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 4:06:41 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> And!!! Zests are half the price of Pauls!
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 14, 2023 at 2:05 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>>
 IME the problem with the Tektros wasn't the stopping power but the 
 sloppy pivots. They stopped about as well as the Pauls but they squealed 
 and juddered. The Pauls are machined much more precisely and don't squeal 
 at all or judder as much.

 On my bike, the Pauls are no worse than any other cantilever I've used 
 but their braking power is hardly beyond ordinary; the high end forged 
 single pivot on my gofast road fixed gear gives more retardation per 
 amount 
 of hand squeeze than the Touring on the front of my errand road bike or 
 the 
 Neo Retro in back. Ditto for any number of single pivots, dual pivots, 
 centerpulls, not to mention disks and V brakes.

 I wish I'd known about the Zests before I bought Pauls. Perhaps they 
 would have been more powerful.

 Still, the Pauls are beautifully made, so very easy to set up, and 
 perfectly functional, tho' I think they are more industrial looking that 
 elegant. Overall, taking all with all, I'm not unhappy.

 BUT! I will be very interested to hear others' comparison of the Zests 
 with Pauls; or of other cantilevers wtih Pauls.

 On Sat, Oct 14, 2023 at 12:21 PM Will Boericke  
 wrote:

> It's not surprising to me that Pauls would be better than the 720s.  I 
> know they (Tektro 720s) have a dedicated following; I can't understand 
> why.  In my experience, they were mediocre stoppers, replaced quickly by 
> Shimano CX70s and then by mini-Vs.  
>
> I just replaced some budget Shimano cantis on my commuter with Velo 
> Orange Zeste brakes and they're amazing.  For the $70 I paid, miraculous 
> even.  Hard to imagine that Pauls would be better.
>
> Will
>

[RBW] Re: FS: Soft Goods - Bontrager, Kitsbow, Dogbagz, Coffee Stuff, Riv MUSA

[Michael Ullmer]

Only the MUSA Splats and Dogbagz Panniers remain of the for sale items. 
Happy to take offers on either.

Prices are net to me and don't include shipping. Will ship using Pirateship:

4) Greenlite Tool Roll - Free with any purchase
--Don't remember when I got this. Made in Seattle, pretty dirty.

5) Map Case - Free with any purchase
--Picked this up from Swift Industries at a seconds sale many years back. 
It has some velcro on it to strap it to the top of a bag/basket/etc.

6) DogBagz Pannier - $80
--Big panniers made of cordura. Made by a small bagmaker out of Seattle (
https://www.instagram.com/dog_bagz/?hl=en). One main rolltop compartment, 
one flap pocket on the outside and water bottle pocket on one side.

9) MUSA Splats - $30
--I believe these are size A. I picked these up for my partner years ago, 
she never used them though. 

10) Seagull Bags /Organizer Accessory Bag - Free with any purchase
--This came with my first Seagull Messenger Bag I bought back in the early 
2000s. Haven't used it in years.

Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/WigvTXQ8oiU65G3x7

Mike in Minneapolis

On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 9:21:11 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Update on what's available and some price drops:
>
> Prices are net to me and don't include shipping. Will ship using 
> Pirateship:
>
> 1) Bontrager Commuting Knickers - Medium - $15
> --I've had these for years and wore them a lot back then, but haven't 
> really used them in the past 5+ years. Nice stretchy material. Shows some 
> wear, but no rips.
>
> 2) Kitsbow Gray Riding Polo Medium - $25
> --The tag's been cut out, so can't confirm material, but I expect its a 
> merino/poly blend. Small snap pocket on the front with integrated glasses 
> cleaner. No holes, tears, etc.
>
> 4) Greenlite Tool Roll - Free with any purchase
> --Don't remember when I got this. Made in Seattle, pretty dirty.
>
> 5) Map Case - Free with any purchase
> --Picked this up from Swift Industries at a seconds sale many years back. 
> It has some velcro on it to strap it to the top of a bag/basket/etc.
>
> 6) DogBagz Pannier - $80
> --Big panniers made of cordura. Made by a small bagmaker out of Seattle (
> https://www.instagram.com/dog_bagz/?hl=en). One main rolltop compartment, 
> one flap pocket on the outside and water bottle pocket on one side.
>
> 9) MUSA Splats - $30
> --I believe these are size A. I picked these up for my partner years ago, 
> she never used them though. 
>
> 10) Seagull Bags /Organizer Accessory Bag - Free with any purchase
> --This came with my first Seagull Messenger Bag I bought back in the early 
> 2000s. Haven't used it in years.
>
> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/WigvTXQ8oiU65G3x7
>
> Mike in Minneapolis
>
>
> On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 10:22:23 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> Prices are net to me and don't include shipping. Will ship using 
>> Pirateship:
>>
>> 1) Bontrager Commuting Knickers - Medium - $15
>> --I've had these for years and wore them a lot back then, but haven't 
>> really used them in the past 5+ years. Nice stretchy material. Shows some 
>> wear, but no rips.
>>
>> 2) Kitsbow Gray Riding Polo Medium - $30
>> --The tag's been cut out, so can't confirm material, but I expect its a 
>> merino/poly blend. Small snap pocket on the front with integrated glasses 
>> cleaner. No holes, tears, etc.
>>
>> 3) Kitsbow Henley Red/Gray S/S Shirt - $35
>> --87.5% Merino, 12.5% Poly. Great condition, longer tail to cover you 
>> while riding.
>>
>> 4) Greenlite Tool Roll - Free with any purchase
>> --Don't remember when I got this. Made in Seattle, pretty dirty.
>>
>> 5) Map Case - Free with any purchase
>> --Picked this up from Swift Industries at a seconds sale many years back. 
>> It has some velcro on it to strap it to the top of a bag/basket/etc.
>>
>> 6) DogBagz Pannier - $100
>> --Big panniers made of cordura. Made by a small bagmaker out of Seattle (
>> https://www.instagram.com/dog_bagz/?hl=en). One main rolltop 
>> compartment, one flap pocket on the outside and water bottle pocket on one 
>> side.
>>
>> 7) Soto Helix Coffee Dripper - $10
>> --I switched to an aeropress for my coffee outside setup. In great shape, 
>> comes with carrying case and some extra filters.
>>
>> 8) Titanium Tea Kettle - $10
>> --Super light, works great for coffee/tea. Just downsizing my coffee 
>> outside setup.
>>
>> 9) MUSA Splats - $30
>> --I believe these are size A. I picked these up for my partner years ago, 
>> she never used them though. 
>>
>> 10) Seagull Bags /Organizer Accessory Bag - Free with any purchase
>> --This came with my first Sea

[RBW] Re: FS: Soft Goods - Bontrager, Kitsbow, Dogbagz, Coffee Stuff, Riv MUSA

[Michael Ullmer]

Update on what's available and some price drops:

Prices are net to me and don't include shipping. Will ship using Pirateship:

1) Bontrager Commuting Knickers - Medium - $15
--I've had these for years and wore them a lot back then, but haven't 
really used them in the past 5+ years. Nice stretchy material. Shows some 
wear, but no rips.

2) Kitsbow Gray Riding Polo Medium - $25
--The tag's been cut out, so can't confirm material, but I expect its a 
merino/poly blend. Small snap pocket on the front with integrated glasses 
cleaner. No holes, tears, etc.

4) Greenlite Tool Roll - Free with any purchase
--Don't remember when I got this. Made in Seattle, pretty dirty.

5) Map Case - Free with any purchase
--Picked this up from Swift Industries at a seconds sale many years back. 
It has some velcro on it to strap it to the top of a bag/basket/etc.

6) DogBagz Pannier - $80
--Big panniers made of cordura. Made by a small bagmaker out of Seattle (
https://www.instagram.com/dog_bagz/?hl=en). One main rolltop compartment, 
one flap pocket on the outside and water bottle pocket on one side.

9) MUSA Splats - $30
--I believe these are size A. I picked these up for my partner years ago, 
she never used them though. 

10) Seagull Bags /Organizer Accessory Bag - Free with any purchase
--This came with my first Seagull Messenger Bag I bought back in the early 
2000s. Haven't used it in years.

Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/WigvTXQ8oiU65G3x7

Mike in Minneapolis


On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 10:22:23 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Prices are net to me and don't include shipping. Will ship using 
> Pirateship:
>
> 1) Bontrager Commuting Knickers - Medium - $15
> --I've had these for years and wore them a lot back then, but haven't 
> really used them in the past 5+ years. Nice stretchy material. Shows some 
> wear, but no rips.
>
> 2) Kitsbow Gray Riding Polo Medium - $30
> --The tag's been cut out, so can't confirm material, but I expect its a 
> merino/poly blend. Small snap pocket on the front with integrated glasses 
> cleaner. No holes, tears, etc.
>
> 3) Kitsbow Henley Red/Gray S/S Shirt - $35
> --87.5% Merino, 12.5% Poly. Great condition, longer tail to cover you 
> while riding.
>
> 4) Greenlite Tool Roll - Free with any purchase
> --Don't remember when I got this. Made in Seattle, pretty dirty.
>
> 5) Map Case - Free with any purchase
> --Picked this up from Swift Industries at a seconds sale many years back. 
> It has some velcro on it to strap it to the top of a bag/basket/etc.
>
> 6) DogBagz Pannier - $100
> --Big panniers made of cordura. Made by a small bagmaker out of Seattle (
> https://www.instagram.com/dog_bagz/?hl=en). One main rolltop compartment, 
> one flap pocket on the outside and water bottle pocket on one side.
>
> 7) Soto Helix Coffee Dripper - $10
> --I switched to an aeropress for my coffee outside setup. In great shape, 
> comes with carrying case and some extra filters.
>
> 8) Titanium Tea Kettle - $10
> --Super light, works great for coffee/tea. Just downsizing my coffee 
> outside setup.
>
> 9) MUSA Splats - $30
> --I believe these are size A. I picked these up for my partner years ago, 
> she never used them though. 
>
> 10) Seagull Bags /Organizer Accessory Bag - Free with any purchase
> --This came with my first Seagull Messenger Bag I bought back in the early 
> 2000s. Haven't used it in years.
>
> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/WigvTXQ8oiU65G3x7
>
> Mike in Minneapolis
>

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[RBW] FS: Soft Goods - Bontrager, Kitsbow, Dogbagz, Coffee Stuff, Riv MUSA

[Michael Ullmer]

Prices are net to me and don't include shipping. Will ship using Pirateship:

1) Bontrager Commuting Knickers - Medium - $15
--I've had these for years and wore them a lot back then, but haven't 
really used them in the past 5+ years. Nice stretchy material. Shows some 
wear, but no rips.

2) Kitsbow Gray Riding Polo Medium - $30
--The tag's been cut out, so can't confirm material, but I expect its a 
merino/poly blend. Small snap pocket on the front with integrated glasses 
cleaner. No holes, tears, etc.

3) Kitsbow Henley Red/Gray S/S Shirt - $35
--87.5% Merino, 12.5% Poly. Great condition, longer tail to cover you while 
riding.

4) Greenlite Tool Roll - Free with any purchase
--Don't remember when I got this. Made in Seattle, pretty dirty.

5) Map Case - Free with any purchase
--Picked this up from Swift Industries at a seconds sale many years back. 
It has some velcro on it to strap it to the top of a bag/basket/etc.

6) DogBagz Pannier - $100
--Big panniers made of cordura. Made by a small bagmaker out of Seattle (
https://www.instagram.com/dog_bagz/?hl=en). One main rolltop compartment, 
one flap pocket on the outside and water bottle pocket on one side.

7) Soto Helix Coffee Dripper - $10
--I switched to an aeropress for my coffee outside setup. In great shape, 
comes with carrying case and some extra filters.

8) Titanium Tea Kettle - $10
--Super light, works great for coffee/tea. Just downsizing my coffee 
outside setup.

9) MUSA Splats - $30
--I believe these are size A. I picked these up for my partner years ago, 
she never used them though. 

10) Seagull Bags /Organizer Accessory Bag - Free with any purchase
--This came with my first Seagull Messenger Bag I bought back in the early 
2000s. Haven't used it in years.

Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/WigvTXQ8oiU65G3x7

Mike in Minneapolis

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Re: [RBW] Are Paul brakes worth the money?

[Michael Moore, Jr.]

Richard that's exactly what I did on a recent build. I used Paul Love
Levers paired with Shimano M750s on my mountain bike. They work great.

 I do run Paul Racer's on my Bleroit, but in 2007 they didn't seem like a
major splurge (or time has warped my view).



On Sun, Oct 8, 2023, 7:02 PM Richard Rose  wrote:

> Me, exactly! I did splurge on the Paul levers though.:)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 8, 2023, at 7:33 PM, larson@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
> I go back and forth on buying Motolites to replace my Shimano V brakes. I
> love the look and know that the Paul's work great, but the Shimano brakes
> really work well. I have had to stop in an emergency and could lock up the
> rear wheel on dry pavement, and rode in bad conditions (rain, mud and grit)
> on a northern forest road recently and had no problems. Ultimately, the
> frugal Scandinavian/Midwest farmer in me has won out and I have resisted
> the urge (so far).
> Randy in WI
>
> On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 1:41:25 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Agreed James, I do NOT think Motolites and Shimano have the same
>> performance. But salmon pads are a hassle, I use these "ebike pads" I got
>> from Riv.
>>
>> [image: Screenshot_20231007_114030.jpg]
>>
>> On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 7:03:12 AM UTC-7 James Valiensi wrote:
>>
>>> Are Paul brakes worth the money? - in a word YES!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 7, 2023, at 6:37 AM, Will Boericke  wrote:
>>>
>>> After some wear, brake pads need to be re-toed in, because they will
>>> wear flat to the rim surface.  I suspect that will solve your problems.
>>>
>>> Will
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 7, 2023 at 9:04 AM Kim H.  wrote:
>>>
 I would enjoy hearing the feedback from those folks, who have used
 Yokozuna brake pads verses Salmon Koolstop pads. Are they any better ? or ?

 Kim Hetzel.

 On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 4:45:43 AM UTC-7 Julian Westerhout
 wrote:

> Bill,
>
> Salmon Koolstop pads stop well, but can be noisy, especially if they
> hit the rim flat or slightly toed out. It is possible/probable that after 
> 5
> months the pads have worn enough to change the way they hit the rim, and
> need to be adjusted a bit to be slightly toe-in.
>
> Julia Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL
>
> On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 5:50:35 AM UTC-5 Bill Fulford wrote:
>
>> The brakes are cantilever with salmon pads. I assume that the are
>> properly mounted. The squawking began after about five months of riding. 
>> In
>> the beginning there was no noise.
>>
>> On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 10:50:09 PM UTC-4 ted.l...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That noise is typical of a he salmon pads that ship on Paul brakes.
>>> salmon pads stop really well but I’ve had several pair on different 
>>> bikes
>>> and different brake styles and after a bit they all started to make 
>>> noise
>>> no matter how I adjusted them. I’ve also found that Paul Motolites in
>>> particular do not like having racks mounted to them. This made any 
>>> existing
>>> brake noise multiples worse I assume due to the two sides being more 
>>> rigid
>>> mounted together allowing for different resonance to occur and generate
>>> more noise. This was particularly apparent on my Gus I assume due to its
>>> unique front end geometry.
>>>
>>> My opinion on the Paul Motolites is mixed. On the one hand, they’re
>>> beautiful and the quick release mechanism is nice compared to typical
>>> v-brakes with the noodle holding it all together. The adjustment 
>>> mechanism
>>> is also a work of arm and does make adjusting for different when sizes a
>>> bit nicer. However, I’m not sure they’re worth the money purely on the
>>> basis of function. To me they’re like a designer handbag. They make a 
>>> nice
>>> accessory when paired with other nice accessories and a good outfit they
>>> can be stunning. But at the end of the day, a $5 handbag holds stuff as
>>> well as a $300 handbag. My $30 Shimano Alivio v-brakes stop my Appaloosa
>>> just as well as the $300 Motolites on my Gus. But my Gus is my pretty 
>>> show
>>> bike that I take out on the town on a Sunny Saturday to get things at 
>>> the
>>> farmer’s market. My Appaloosa is my daily driver. I lock it up outside 
>>> of
>>> stores and restaurants and ride it, rain or shine, to work 5 days a 
>>> week.
>>> It’s still a nice bike but the parts on it are more utilitarian in 
>>> nature.
>>> The frame is the flashiest piece of kit on the whole bike and I like it
>>> that way.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 10:24 PM Julian Westerhout <
>>> weste...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Bill,

 Which brakes are they?  Which pads are you using? Are they properly
 slightly toed in?

 Photos would help in making a diagnosis 

[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Tallux 90mm

[Michael Ullmer]

Thanks for checking! I"m dialed in at 90mm, so it would be dealbreaker...

On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 8:54:26 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy wrote:

> Hi Mike, I'll check when I get home, but I think I have a practically 
> brand new one. It may be 100mm reach, though. Would that be a deal breaker?
>
> On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 2:37:28 PM UTC-4 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> Anyone holding? Riv is out of stock on these.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Mike in Minneapolis
>>
>

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[RBW] WTB: Nitto Tallux 90mm

[Michael Ullmer]

Anyone holding? Riv is out of stock on these.

Thanks!
Mike in Minneapolis

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[RBW] Looking For: dia compe 610s?

[Michael Baquerizo]

Thinking i'd like to try center pulls out on my next build. Anyone have a 
set they'd be interested in letting go? 

I don't have any of the necessary accoutrements either, front and rear 
cable hangers. 

Thanks in advance


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[RBW] Deal alert: Five Ten cycling shoes on sale ($63)

[Michael Morrissey]

These Five Ten cycling shoes are on sale at Adidas.com. I just ordered 
another pair. I really really like these shoes for riding, and you might 
too.

https://www.adidas.com/us/five-ten-freerider-pro-canvas-mountain-bike-shoes/GZ1931.html

Michael


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[RBW] WTB: Aluminum Albatross Bars

[Michael Ullmer]

I seemingly missed out on a few sets of bars that were for sale on the 
list. Anyone have a set of Aluminum Albatross bars? I'm ready to switch up 
from my Albastache setup on my 650b'ed Trek 640. 

PM off-list

Thanks!
Mike in Minneapolis

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[RBW] Re: Help me repair Pam's Silver shifters

[Michael Hammer]

The mechanism looks almost identical to the Suntour Barcon (of course) so 
broken Barcons might be a source of parts.  In addition the stem or 
downtube mounted Suntour power ratchet shifters might also have the 
spring.  See velobase 
here: 
https://velobase.com/ViewComponent.aspx?ID=39b0c9b8-10d7-4324-8bf4-f65eca2d209a=104
  
The power ratchets might be found at a bike recycling place.  Here's a 
diagram of the barcon:
[image: NOS Pair 2 SUNTOUR Bar End Shifters BAR-CON Parts Pods Body Ratchet 
Covers Tour - Picture 1 of 8]

On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 6:17:05 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Great idea about 3D printing, Peter! I'll reach out to Riv on the off 
> chance they can get me the file I need. 
>
> Our local library has a maker space with a 3D scanner and 3D printers, so 
> I can go get certified and see if I can make some stuff! It's about a 5 
> minute walk for me. 
>
> On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 2:37:23 AM UTC-4 Peter Adler wrote:
>
>> Sounds like a task tailor-made for 3D printing. The ideal situation would 
>> be if Dia-Compe would send you the 3D file that they almost certainly have, 
>> but I'm sure that (rational) liability concerns will prevent this.
>>
>> Peter Adler
>> no longer professionally engaged in the 
>> rich-people-suing-other-rich-people industry, but still aware of the 
>> thought processes in
>> Berkeley, CA/USA
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 8:02:06 PM UTC-7 Eric Marth wrote:
>>
>> My plan, once I locate some pawls, is to make a Silver shifter repair and 
>> maintenance video.
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] FREE: Riv Peace Wheel T-shirts XL

[Michael Moore, Jr.]

I'll take one off your hands.


Michael

On Tue, Sep 19, 2023, 7:49 AM RBW Owners Bunch 
wrote:

> I have two unworn/brand new Ukraine Peace Wheel tees in size XL (color is
> gray) that are free to a good home. Just Venmo me $5 for shipping.
>
> Back image below; front is a pocket-T with "AT ITS BEST PEDALING IS
> POLITICAL" printed on the pocket. DM or reply here.
>
> [image: へ'）Nº237 Sometimes The Best Way To Heal Is With Cold Steel ❤️‍啕
> | by Jon Woodroof | Medium]
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Re: [RBW] Re: Babies on bikes

[Michael Baquerizo]

 and rain.  We went out in all weather, including out in the snow 
>>>> with 
>>>>studded tires.
>>>>- We're riding a Big Dummy now, but it's less used for long rides, 
>>>>as it's less comfortable and not as suitable for "wake me up when we 
>>>> get 
>>>>there".  The back deck is better for standing up and surfing on though. 
>>>>  I 
>>>>have installed Quadrophonic scooters mirrors.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 8:18:16 AM UTC-4 ted.l...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> My son is about to turn one and I’ve had him in a rear mounted Thule 
>>>> kids seat since he was about 8 months old. Before that, I played around 
>>>> with mounting his car seat base to the metal frame of one of those 
>>>> side-by-side kid trailers. I only ever used it twice, though, before he 
>>>> was 
>>>> old enough to be in the rear seat.
>>>>
>>>> You’re not really supposed to mount car seats to those trailers, but I 
>>>> was able to fabricate a mount that let the base mount the same way it does 
>>>> in the car, allowing the carrier to clip in the same way as it would in 
>>>> the 
>>>> car. Combined with the “roll cage” design of the trailer, I felt 
>>>> comfortable using it for quick rides to the neighborhood park, less than a 
>>>> mile away.
>>>>
>>>> The conventional wisdom I’ve heard is that you need to wait until they 
>>>> can hold their head up well with their helmet on. That was technically 7 
>>>> months for us, but I waited until he was a little bigger and the helmet 
>>>> gift him better.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 11:31 PM Michael Baquerizo  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> it might not just be research but also law. you should check in your 
>>>> area.  
>>>>
>>>> i started when we were allowed to, i think still before 1 YO. we used a 
>>>> yepp maxi because i didn’t want to have to buy a mini and then a maxi 
>>>> after 
>>>> he grew out of it. but i regretted not being able to have him in the front 
>>>> with me. 
>>>>
>>>> fast forward a few years and i helped a friend install a mini on his 
>>>> bike w swept back bars. it was impossible to ride around with, and there 
>>>> wasn’t even a kid on it when i tried. turning was impossible. i’m sure 
>>>> there’s an ideal setup for it like a rosco bebbe) but a ‘normal’ bike is 
>>>> not it  
>>>>
>>>> i still use the yepp maxi on a nitto campee rear rack, for sure not 
>>>> rated for his weight and it’s about time i switch out racks for something 
>>>> beefier. 
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 10:58:35 PM UTC-4 Kushan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Looking for wisdom and advice from the Riv community on riding bikes 
>>>> with babies on them. At what age did you start? What seats, trailers, etc 
>>>> did you use? Where did you ride?  
>>>>
>>>> My little one just turned 6 months old and I am itching to introduce 
>>>> him to bike rides. He can sit on his own and does pretty well in carriers 
>>>> (both facing in and out). He loves being outside and I would love to do a 
>>>> ride with him on a car-free bike paths or (non-technical) dirt trails. 
>>>> Most 
>>>> online resources recommend biking with babies after 1 year of age but I am 
>>>> not sure if that's based on any actual research. 
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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

[Michael Morrissey]

Does this belong to someone on the list here?

Simpleone 
58cm Green
Brooklyn, NY
https://www.ebay.com/itm/186064411809?hash=item2b524d9ca1:g:6VcAAOSwOcBk9hv3


On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 3:04:49 PM UTC-4 chasenl...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> happy hump day to all
>
> self promoting my medium gus for pickup in nyc 
>
>
> https://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/bik/d/brooklyn-rivendell-gus-boots-willsen/7660623554.html
>
> On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 9:21:57 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> An unusual Homer! Double tube, darker blue than I'm used to seeing. Nice 
>> build. Oddly the listing makes no mention of the 3x1 drivetrain.
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 9:16:12 AM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>>
>>> Cheviot f/f/hs
>>> 60cm
>>> Tulsa, Okay 
>>> Auction: https://www.ebay.com/itm/115901802895
>>>
>>> [image: s-l1600.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 10:23:27 PM UTC-4 Danny wrote:
>>>
 Bike Recyclery has a NOS 60cm Yves Gomez for $1499.99


 https://bikerecyclery.com/nos-rivendell-yves-gomez-betty-foy-frameset-fork-hs-br-bb-60cm-700c-fenders-racks-heart-cutout-lugs-black-white-gold/



 On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 12:50:33 PM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote:

> A. Homer Hilsen (curved 2TT!)
> 64cm
> 3400
> East Hampton, NY
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/404463031464
>
> [image: s-l1600.jpg]
>


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Re: [RBW] Re: Sacramento Ride recommendations

['Michael Kashuba' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Agreed. Miners Ravine, and Secret Ravine in Roseville are pleasant. If you make it out to Beals Point area at Folsom Lake, the Johnny Cash Trail is also interesting and cuts off at old Folsom town…MJK with an Appaloosa in Fair OaksSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 1, 2023, at 5:05 PM, Wesley  wrote:If you can drive to your ride, then I'd suggest parking at the Yolo Bypass Wildlife Area and riding the gravel roads through there. It's beautiful, full of wildflowers and migrating birds, and completely flat. If you'd prefer terrain, there are a lot of options in the Sierra foothills. One good one is to drive to the Quarry Trail and ride it (north of Folsom Lake near the confluence of the North and Middle forks of the American River - that confluence area is the starting points for a lot of good hiking and riding, though bikes generally aren't allowed on the single-track trails.-WesOn Friday, September 1, 2023 at 2:04:52 PM UTC-7 Wesley wrote:The American River Bike Trail is exceptional. If by Northeast Sac you mean one of the suburbs like Citrus Heights or Roseville, then I'd suggest riding Auburn-Folsom Road. There's a lot of mixed terrain to ride on the levees (which al have a gravel road on top and/or to the side) but they get boring very fast (for me). If you can drive to the start of your ride then your options are much greater.-WesOn Friday, September 1, 2023 at 12:41:38 PM UTC-7 Brendan Willard in SF wrote:I'll be out in North East Sac this weekend and hope to get a 20-40 mile ride or two in.  Any musts? Mixed terrain preferred.Thanks,Brendan in SF.



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Re: [RBW] Riv Ride: Chicago Lakefront Trail Recap

['Michael Kashuba' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Ditto! Great video clip with all those beautiful rides, people and scenery. I wished I was there with my Appaloosa! Mike in Fair OaksSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 1, 2023, at 8:03 AM, Takashi  wrote:Great video and writeup as always, Leah!It's a great thing that we have such a great storyteller in this group so that members who couldn't join the ride still can enjoy your post.
Thank you for sharing.

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[RBW] Re: Stuck shifter cable head

[Michael Connors]

Try leaving a 1-2 inch tail and using a pliers to twist it and push it out


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[RBW] Re: Babies on bikes

[Michael Baquerizo]

it might not just be research but also law. you should check in your area. 

i started when we were allowed to, i think still before 1 YO. we used a 
yepp maxi because i didn’t want to have to buy a mini and then a maxi after 
he grew out of it. but i regretted not being able to have him in the front 
with me. 

fast forward a few years and i helped a friend install a mini on his bike w 
swept back bars. it was impossible to ride around with, and there wasn’t 
even a kid on it when i tried. turning was impossible. i’m sure there’s an 
ideal setup for it like a rosco bebbe) but a ‘normal’ bike is not it  

i still use the yepp maxi on a nitto campee rear rack, for sure not rated 
for his weight and it’s about time i switch out racks for something 
beefier. 

On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 10:58:35 PM UTC-4 Kushan wrote:

> Looking for wisdom and advice from the Riv community on riding bikes with 
> babies on them. At what age did you start? What seats, trailers, etc did 
> you use? Where did you ride? 
>
> My little one just turned 6 months old and I am itching to introduce him 
> to bike rides. He can sit on his own and does pretty well in carriers (both 
> facing in and out). He loves being outside and I would love to do a ride 
> with him on a car-free bike paths or (non-technical) dirt trails. Most 
> online resources recommend biking with babies after 1 year of age but I am 
> not sure if that's based on any actual research. 
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Summer Cleaning - Brooks, Salsa, Acorn, Nitto, Thomson

[Michael Ullmer]

All sold, thanks all!

On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 10:37:13 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> All that remains is:
>
> 4) Salsa 1" 80mm Quill Stem 26.0 Clamp - $60
> --A rare bird! A takeoff from a neighbors bike that I'm rehabbing. Shows 
> signs of use, sticker is worn in parts.
>
> 7) Shimano 600 27.2 Seatpost - $20
> --Some scuffs from use.
> On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 10:06:29 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> An update on what remains and a couple price drops:
>>
>> 1) Brooks B-17S - $75
>> --Bought from my LBS, Proofride applied, appears not to have been ridden. 
>> Was never used by us.
>>
>> 2) Timbuk2 Tool Roll - SOLD
>> --Some marks from use, functionally great. A friend gifted me a Soulrun 
>> Tool roll and this one needs to go.
>>
>> 3) Black Shimano FC-6206 170mm Cranks - $75
>> --These came on an old Trek MTB. Beautiful, a few marks in the black 
>> anodization. Rings 46-40-28. Comes with the original cup and cone BB
>>
>> 4) Salsa 1" 80mm Quill Stem 26.0 Clamp - $60
>> --A rare bird! A takeoff from a neighbors bike that I'm rehabbing. Shows 
>> signs of use, sticker is worn in parts.
>>
>> 5) Nitto Lamp Holder 2 -  SOLD
>> --Great shape, used to hold my Acorn bag.
>>
>> 6) Acorn Medium Handlebar Bag -  SOLD
>> --Great shape, no rips/tears. No signs of wear that I can see.
>>
>> 7) Shimano 600 27.2 Seatpost - $20
>> --Some scuffs from use.
>>
>> 8) Dura Ace QR Skewers -  SOLD
>> --Mismatched Dura Ace skewers (the font is SLIGHTLY different).
>>
>> 9) Thomson Elite 27.0 x 330 Black Seatpost -  SOLD pending payment
>> --Was in use on my partner's Bridgestone MB-3. Has its fair share of 
>> scuffs.
>>
>> On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 4:07:54 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>
>>> Lamp Holder and DA Skewers sold
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 3:14:37 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>>
>>>>   A few items left over from a few builds and from the bin. Prices are 
>>>> net to me and don't include shipping. Will ship with Pirateship.
>>>>
>>>> 1) Brooks B-17S - $80
>>>> --Bought from my LBS, Proofride applied, appears not to have been 
>>>> ridden. Was never used by us.
>>>>
>>>> 2) Timbuk2 Tool Roll - $20
>>>> --Some marks from use, functionally great. A friend gifted me a Soulrun 
>>>> Tool roll and this one needs to go.
>>>>
>>>> 3) Black Shimano FC-6206 170mm Cranks - $75
>>>> --These came on an old Trek MTB. Beautiful, a few marks in the black 
>>>> anodization. Rings 46-40-28. Comes with the original cup and cone BB
>>>>
>>>> 4) Salsa 80mm Quill Stem 26.0 Clamp - $60
>>>> --A rare bird! A takeoff from a neighbors bike that I'm rehabbing. 
>>>> Shows signs of use, sticker is worn in parts.
>>>>
>>>> 5) Nitto Lamp Holder 2 - $50
>>>> --Great shape, used to hold my Acorn bag.
>>>>
>>>> 6) Acorn Medium Handlebar Bag - $70
>>>> --Great shape, no rips/tears. No signs of wear that I can see.
>>>>
>>>> 7) Shimano 600 27.2 Seatpost - $25
>>>> --Some scuffs from use.
>>>>
>>>> 8) Dura Ace QR Skewers - $40
>>>> --Mismatched Dura Ace skewers (the font is SLIGHTLY different).
>>>>
>>>> 9) Thomson Elite 27.0 x 330 Black Seatpost - $45
>>>> --Was in use on my partner's Bridgestone MB-3. Has its fair share of 
>>>> scuffs.
>>>>
>>>> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/X3mrChL4s7iwcxCK8
>>>>
>>>> PM off-list
>>>>
>>>> Mike in Minneapolis
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Summer Cleaning - Brooks, Salsa, Acorn, Nitto, Thomson

[Michael Ullmer]

All that remains is:

4) Salsa 1" 80mm Quill Stem 26.0 Clamp - $60
--A rare bird! A takeoff from a neighbors bike that I'm rehabbing. Shows 
signs of use, sticker is worn in parts.

7) Shimano 600 27.2 Seatpost - $20
--Some scuffs from use.
On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 10:06:29 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> An update on what remains and a couple price drops:
>
> 1) Brooks B-17S - $75
> --Bought from my LBS, Proofride applied, appears not to have been ridden. 
> Was never used by us.
>
> 2) Timbuk2 Tool Roll - SOLD
> --Some marks from use, functionally great. A friend gifted me a Soulrun 
> Tool roll and this one needs to go.
>
> 3) Black Shimano FC-6206 170mm Cranks - $75
> --These came on an old Trek MTB. Beautiful, a few marks in the black 
> anodization. Rings 46-40-28. Comes with the original cup and cone BB
>
> 4) Salsa 1" 80mm Quill Stem 26.0 Clamp - $60
> --A rare bird! A takeoff from a neighbors bike that I'm rehabbing. Shows 
> signs of use, sticker is worn in parts.
>
> 5) Nitto Lamp Holder 2 -  SOLD
> --Great shape, used to hold my Acorn bag.
>
> 6) Acorn Medium Handlebar Bag -  SOLD
> --Great shape, no rips/tears. No signs of wear that I can see.
>
> 7) Shimano 600 27.2 Seatpost - $20
> --Some scuffs from use.
>
> 8) Dura Ace QR Skewers -  SOLD
> --Mismatched Dura Ace skewers (the font is SLIGHTLY different).
>
> 9) Thomson Elite 27.0 x 330 Black Seatpost -  SOLD pending payment
> --Was in use on my partner's Bridgestone MB-3. Has its fair share of 
> scuffs.
>
> On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 4:07:54 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> Lamp Holder and DA Skewers sold
>>
>> On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 3:14:37 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>
>>>   A few items left over from a few builds and from the bin. Prices are 
>>> net to me and don't include shipping. Will ship with Pirateship.
>>>
>>> 1) Brooks B-17S - $80
>>> --Bought from my LBS, Proofride applied, appears not to have been 
>>> ridden. Was never used by us.
>>>
>>> 2) Timbuk2 Tool Roll - $20
>>> --Some marks from use, functionally great. A friend gifted me a Soulrun 
>>> Tool roll and this one needs to go.
>>>
>>> 3) Black Shimano FC-6206 170mm Cranks - $75
>>> --These came on an old Trek MTB. Beautiful, a few marks in the black 
>>> anodization. Rings 46-40-28. Comes with the original cup and cone BB
>>>
>>> 4) Salsa 80mm Quill Stem 26.0 Clamp - $60
>>> --A rare bird! A takeoff from a neighbors bike that I'm rehabbing. Shows 
>>> signs of use, sticker is worn in parts.
>>>
>>> 5) Nitto Lamp Holder 2 - $50
>>> --Great shape, used to hold my Acorn bag.
>>>
>>> 6) Acorn Medium Handlebar Bag - $70
>>> --Great shape, no rips/tears. No signs of wear that I can see.
>>>
>>> 7) Shimano 600 27.2 Seatpost - $25
>>> --Some scuffs from use.
>>>
>>> 8) Dura Ace QR Skewers - $40
>>> --Mismatched Dura Ace skewers (the font is SLIGHTLY different).
>>>
>>> 9) Thomson Elite 27.0 x 330 Black Seatpost - $45
>>> --Was in use on my partner's Bridgestone MB-3. Has its fair share of 
>>> scuffs.
>>>
>>> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/X3mrChL4s7iwcxCK8
>>>
>>> PM off-list
>>>
>>> Mike in Minneapolis
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

[Michael Morrissey]

Waterford-branded step-through frame with an Atlantis fork crown, and 26" 
wheels, size 
55cm:
$2500 BIN on eBay
Richmond, California
https://www.ebay.com/itm/325617910401?hash=item4bd0570281:g:zbUAAOSwUM5kOcJu=enc%3AAQAI0GVmsvx2G2EFBhyQHCGPYGyFyQ7RZZrtkT%2BxYBwKiQQBW7n4FDddMTyTJoX6PR2BpbOqwhc5qZhTARVIUceYrop9Qd6fUHOj%2F20bWDi3cVh2qR3MyKrqP0SIo0th7QRdQ0wn%2BE9A1UOBQQUFTN3xMwHYILOFPwY5Rfwk2Aq3e%2Bx24rpeE%2BDDntofA2Uh%2FI08tbL2PmPJiRHf21spIAL3SQfUO%2Br4HGS4Nm9jbvB%2BIJsj65%2BAWws0i0Ff7UEOjK29U7Vrv1zYISpxESv%2FyROPL%2BE%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR5anpu7DYg


On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 1:26:05 PM UTC-4 Mike Godwin wrote:

> Man o Man, someone needs to pick up the Roadeo for 1300 bucks. Thats 
> almost the cost of the parts!
>
> Mike "1 Roadeo, but not my first goat rope" Godwin SLO CA
>
> On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 9:47:48 AM UTC-7 plumber...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Seller sent these pictures it looks like 60cm frame hopefully this helps 
>> someone out there.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Vern
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 9:43 AM NR MR  wrote:
>>
>>> Is this a 57, or 60? Trying to find out what the minimum PBH is for this 
>>> one.
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 11:49:16 AM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>>>
 It’s a nicely priced 60cm bike. 

 IMO, it’s the most desirable Sam: canti brakes and a single top tube. 
 Too bad it’s not closer. 

 Eric
 Plain City OH

 On Monday, August 21, 2023, Eric Marth  wrote:

> [image: Screenshot 2023-08-21 at 11.10.54 AM.png]
>
> I agree with Jonathan. My Hillborne is a verified 57cm from the same 
> production run and my headtube is significantly shorter than the one 
> pictured.  
>
> Customary lamentation for no drive-side picture. 
>
> On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 11:06:09 AM UTC-4 jonathan@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> It looks bigger than a 57 to me though. 
>>
>> On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 5:24:10 AM UTC-7 jrst...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That Hillborne seems very cheap for a complete bike. 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 11:01:32 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 SAM HILLBORNE
 57cm
 1200
 San Francisco, CA

 https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/bik/d/portola-valley-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7657012769.html

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[RBW] Re: FS: Summer Cleaning - Brooks, Salsa, Acorn, Nitto, Thomson

[Michael Ullmer]

An update on what remains and a couple price drops:

1) Brooks B-17S - $75
--Bought from my LBS, Proofride applied, appears not to have been ridden. 
Was never used by us.

2) Timbuk2 Tool Roll - SOLD
--Some marks from use, functionally great. A friend gifted me a Soulrun 
Tool roll and this one needs to go.

3) Black Shimano FC-6206 170mm Cranks - $75
--These came on an old Trek MTB. Beautiful, a few marks in the black 
anodization. Rings 46-40-28. Comes with the original cup and cone BB

4) Salsa 1" 80mm Quill Stem 26.0 Clamp - $60
--A rare bird! A takeoff from a neighbors bike that I'm rehabbing. Shows 
signs of use, sticker is worn in parts.

5) Nitto Lamp Holder 2 -  SOLD
--Great shape, used to hold my Acorn bag.

6) Acorn Medium Handlebar Bag -  SOLD
--Great shape, no rips/tears. No signs of wear that I can see.

7) Shimano 600 27.2 Seatpost - $20
--Some scuffs from use.

8) Dura Ace QR Skewers -  SOLD
--Mismatched Dura Ace skewers (the font is SLIGHTLY different).

9) Thomson Elite 27.0 x 330 Black Seatpost -  SOLD pending payment
--Was in use on my partner's Bridgestone MB-3. Has its fair share of scuffs.

On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 4:07:54 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Lamp Holder and DA Skewers sold
>
> On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 3:14:37 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>>   A few items left over from a few builds and from the bin. Prices are 
>> net to me and don't include shipping. Will ship with Pirateship.
>>
>> 1) Brooks B-17S - $80
>> --Bought from my LBS, Proofride applied, appears not to have been ridden. 
>> Was never used by us.
>>
>> 2) Timbuk2 Tool Roll - $20
>> --Some marks from use, functionally great. A friend gifted me a Soulrun 
>> Tool roll and this one needs to go.
>>
>> 3) Black Shimano FC-6206 170mm Cranks - $75
>> --These came on an old Trek MTB. Beautiful, a few marks in the black 
>> anodization. Rings 46-40-28. Comes with the original cup and cone BB
>>
>> 4) Salsa 80mm Quill Stem 26.0 Clamp - $60
>> --A rare bird! A takeoff from a neighbors bike that I'm rehabbing. Shows 
>> signs of use, sticker is worn in parts.
>>
>> 5) Nitto Lamp Holder 2 - $50
>> --Great shape, used to hold my Acorn bag.
>>
>> 6) Acorn Medium Handlebar Bag - $70
>> --Great shape, no rips/tears. No signs of wear that I can see.
>>
>> 7) Shimano 600 27.2 Seatpost - $25
>> --Some scuffs from use.
>>
>> 8) Dura Ace QR Skewers - $40
>> --Mismatched Dura Ace skewers (the font is SLIGHTLY different).
>>
>> 9) Thomson Elite 27.0 x 330 Black Seatpost - $45
>> --Was in use on my partner's Bridgestone MB-3. Has its fair share of 
>> scuffs.
>>
>> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/X3mrChL4s7iwcxCK8
>>
>> PM off-list
>>
>> Mike in Minneapolis
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Cycling shoes for wide feet?

[Michael Morrissey]

Hi,

I have wide feet too. I have the Adidas Five Ten Freerider Pros for 
bike-riding and they are the best cycling sneaker I have ever had.

Wide shoes are still surprisingly hard to find. I also really love my 
Danner boots and Rancourt shoes, both in wide sizes and made in the USA. 

Michael
 

On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 12:23:10 PM UTC-4 Drew Saunders wrote:

> I have 10.5  feet. Ducks follow me around as if I'm their leader. 
> Birkenstocks fit me well, but otherwise, I have to seek out wide-specific 
> shoes. I can also stand on one foot until I'm tired or bored, so super wide 
> feet do have their advantages!
>
> I'm in the process of getting the last few hundred miles out of my Shimano 
> SPD-compatible "walkable" shoes. Can't remember the model, but they would 
> be sold as "mountain bike" shoes, in that there are lugs and stuff to get 
> grip. I have Ritchey SPD pedals on my Riv and Ibis, so I guess my 
> 28mm-tired Riv is a "mountain" bike! ;)
>
> Anyway, when these give up the ghost and/or REI has a sale, I'll try 
> whatever cheapest Shimano shoes they have that come in wide. The Stomp Lox 
> look intriguing, but they don't make the longer sizes in wide too, which is 
> too bad.
>
> On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 9:02:33 AM UTC-7 J wrote:
>
>> I feel like I've been banging my head against a wall with this question 
>> for a couple years. I have one regular width foot that can tolerate just 
>> about any shoe I put on it and one twice broken foot that can't tolerate 
>> anything even slightly constricting in the toe box or pointy. So I normally 
>> go with 12EE width equivalent shoes for the forgiving width and volume for 
>> everyday use and wear approach shoes and flat pedals for on bike use. I can 
>> no longer wear Vans of Converse that made up most of my non work footwear. 
>> Any time I'm in a bike shop that has cycling shoes that I like the look of 
>> I try them on and haven't yet found something that fits. As ugly I think 
>> they are, Stomplox may be the only shoes voluminous enough.
>>
>> I once tried a friend's pair of very broken in (discontinued) Giro 
>> Republic LX and they were a pretty nice fit but I needed a half size 
>> bigger. 
>>
>> I've been stuck on trying a pair of Quoc but they wildly varying opinions 
>> on whether they fit wide or narrow always keeps me away from them. Now that 
>> Rei is carrying them I may just get a chance to figure out sizing in person 
>> the next time I need to make the 2 hour drive to the closest Rei. 
>>
>> I have a friend with EE high volume feet and loves his Giro Empire VR90 
>> HV (HV discontinued) the HV stands for high volume. I think they look 
>> fairly classic as well once you take a black sharpie to the lettering. The 
>> non HV pretty classy left alone but I seriously doubt they'd fit. 
>>
>> The concept of good fit is hamstrung by the fact that brand new leather 
>> shoes aren't going to fit the same after breaking in. For the last 10+ 
>> years I've immediately soaked a new pair of leather work boots until the 
>> leather was saturated then wore them around wet for a few hours to get the 
>> leather started breaking in, then letting them dry before ever wearing them 
>> to work. Same goes for Brooks saddles, contrary to popular opinion. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 10:14:13 AM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote:
>>
>>> On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 3:30:12 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Are there any proper cycling shoes out there that accommodate serious 
>>> width? 
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for jumping to a new thread ... I probably should have done that, 
>>> myself. 
>>>
>>> Should we start with a definition of "proper cycling shoes" ?  :-)
>>>
>>> I have found the proliferation of pedals with large platforms to help me 
>>> rethink what I am looking for in a cycling shoe. Of course, that also 
>>> corresponds with retirement and never doing rides on which I feel the need 
>>> to have my feet securely attached to the pedals. On the contrary, I am 
>>> finding that being able to shift my feet around is significantly improving 
>>> foot comfort on longer rides. It also has been helping me subtly alter the 
>>> pedaling dynamics which is recruiting different muscles, which also reduces 
>>> fatigue on longer rides. I did a 200km ride Saturday and being able to 
>>> change my foot position was very helpful. I think that it's not just having 
>>> a wider toe box, but also a more flexible sole that's important to foot 
>&g

[RBW] Re: FS: Summer Cleaning - Brooks, Salsa, Acorn, Nitto, Thomson

[Michael Ullmer]

Lamp Holder and DA Skewers sold

On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 3:14:37 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:

>   A few items left over from a few builds and from the bin. Prices are net 
> to me and don't include shipping. Will ship with Pirateship.
>
> 1) Brooks B-17S - $80
> --Bought from my LBS, Proofride applied, appears not to have been ridden. 
> Was never used by us.
>
> 2) Timbuk2 Tool Roll - $20
> --Some marks from use, functionally great. A friend gifted me a Soulrun 
> Tool roll and this one needs to go.
>
> 3) Black Shimano FC-6206 170mm Cranks - $75
> --These came on an old Trek MTB. Beautiful, a few marks in the black 
> anodization. Rings 46-40-28. Comes with the original cup and cone BB
>
> 4) Salsa 80mm Quill Stem 26.0 Clamp - $60
> --A rare bird! A takeoff from a neighbors bike that I'm rehabbing. Shows 
> signs of use, sticker is worn in parts.
>
> 5) Nitto Lamp Holder 2 - $50
> --Great shape, used to hold my Acorn bag.
>
> 6) Acorn Medium Handlebar Bag - $70
> --Great shape, no rips/tears. No signs of wear that I can see.
>
> 7) Shimano 600 27.2 Seatpost - $25
> --Some scuffs from use.
>
> 8) Dura Ace QR Skewers - $40
> --Mismatched Dura Ace skewers (the font is SLIGHTLY different).
>
> 9) Thomson Elite 27.0 x 330 Black Seatpost - $45
> --Was in use on my partner's Bridgestone MB-3. Has its fair share of 
> scuffs.
>
> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/X3mrChL4s7iwcxCK8
>
> PM off-list
>
> Mike in Minneapolis
>

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[RBW] FS: Summer Cleaning - Brooks, Salsa, Acorn, Nitto, Thomson

[Michael Ullmer]

  A few items left over from a few builds and from the bin. Prices are net 
to me and don't include shipping. Will ship with Pirateship.

1) Brooks B-17S - $80
--Bought from my LBS, Proofride applied, appears not to have been ridden. 
Was never used by us.

2) Timbuk2 Tool Roll - $20
--Some marks from use, functionally great. A friend gifted me a Soulrun 
Tool roll and this one needs to go.

3) Black Shimano FC-6206 170mm Cranks - $75
--These came on an old Trek MTB. Beautiful, a few marks in the black 
anodization. Rings 46-40-28. Comes with the original cup and cone BB

4) Salsa 80mm Quill Stem 26.0 Clamp - $60
--A rare bird! A takeoff from a neighbors bike that I'm rehabbing. Shows 
signs of use, sticker is worn in parts.

5) Nitto Lamp Holder 2 - $50
--Great shape, used to hold my Acorn bag.

6) Acorn Medium Handlebar Bag - $70
--Great shape, no rips/tears. No signs of wear that I can see.

7) Shimano 600 27.2 Seatpost - $25
--Some scuffs from use.

8) Dura Ace QR Skewers - $40
--Mismatched Dura Ace skewers (the font is SLIGHTLY different).

9) Thomson Elite 27.0 x 330 Black Seatpost - $45
--Was in use on my partner's Bridgestone MB-3. Has its fair share of scuffs.

Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/X3mrChL4s7iwcxCK8

PM off-list

Mike in Minneapolis

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Re: [RBW] WTB: Nitto Promenade Bar

[Michael Baquerizo]

matthew - thanks for that. promenade is less wide than those 'adult' 
offerings so i'd stick to that

john - i just helped a friend get a bike for their kid. it was labeled as a 
3-5 year old bike, the kids are 4 now and the bike has sooo much stretch 
that he'd really benefit from bars coming back at him. he's doing fine on 
it he just looks extremely uncomfortable. this is the cleary 16" offering.

while i'm not getting the same bike for my kid, i'm anticipating he'd be 
stretched out as well. just want something that comes back a bit instead of 
a straight bar.

what bike are you planning on upgrading to? another woom?

On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 4:28:13 AM UTC-4 John Johnson wrote:

> Hi Michael,
>
> I have a 3 year old that rides a Woom 2 (and yes, the balance bike is 
> definitely a great way to learn. He was on his own after a few days of 
> trying. I used the advice from this video to help him learn:  few 
> https://www.islabikes.co.uk/blogs/riding-advice/teach-your-child-to-ride).
>
> I would say that for most kids and their "first bikes", an important 
> factor in mastering how to ride is good bike design. Weight is maybe the 
> biggest factor (for a 30 lb kid, the Woom which is pretty much the lightest 
> bike on the market at 11 lb, is 30% of their weight!) but also the bikes' 
> geometry and Q factor. I have seen other kids on big box store bikes that 
> weigh almost the same as they do, trying to learn and struggling, and it 
> doesn't look like much fun. 
>
> Using handlebars designed for adult-sized bikes may throw the little 
> bike's handling off significantly (and the promenades are almost a pound 
> all by themselves). I would also put forward that the promenade is a swept 
> back bar, and most kid's bikes are designed around flat bars. He'd likely 
> be cramped and have a hard time turning the bars (unless you put a long 
> stem on the bike - more weight - but even then, I think the bars would take 
> up a lot of space). I mention all of this, because I've thought about the 
> same thing as you for my kid. I want him on a bike that has the same 
> aesthetic that I love in bikes... but yeah, between a bike that weighs 11 
> lbs rather than a bike that looks pretty cool but weighs closer to 18 lbs 
> (Veloretti kids bikes, for example) - I'll take the trade off that my kid 
> enjoys riding and takes pride in mastering something. He's 3 years and a 
> few months and is already riding very independently (we did 10 km to a 
> local watering hole last week) - that's what's been the most important 
> thing for me. I'd also say that comfort (swept back vs. flat bars) is less 
> of an issue for a young rider doing a few km at most.
>
> I'd say when you get to 5-8 year old bike sizes, you might be able to Riv 
> it out a bit more.
>
> best of luck either way and cheers,
>
> John
>
>
>
> On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 4:40:48 AM UTC+2 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> These have been on CraigsList for a while:
>>
>> [image: 00J0J_eiwKm7570xu_0t20t2_600x450.jpg]
>>
>> Nitto Choco Handlebar B357AAF - bicycle parts - by owner - bike sale 
>> <https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/bop/d/south-pasadena-nitto-choco-handlebar/7656648259.html>
>> losangeles.craigslist.org 
>> <https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/bop/d/south-pasadena-nitto-choco-handlebar/7656648259.html>
>>
>> <https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/bop/d/south-pasadena-nitto-choco-handlebar/7656648259.html>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 20, 2023, at 3:50 PM, Michael Baquerizo  
>> wrote:
>>
>> or maybe just to talk about it?
>>
>> my son is due to upgrade from a balance bike to a pedal bike and because 
>> i'm me I want to switch things up a bit on whatever frame I end up buying 
>> him. I was intrigued that the bosco is just a bigger promenade bar so was 
>> wondering if anyone has experience with it and if it might be too much for 
>> a 4 year old. 
>>
>> and if its cheap enough (they're already one of the cheaper nitto 
>> offerings) i'd love to take a pair of someones hands.
>>
>> thoughts?
>>
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[RBW] Re: ‘95 Rivendell Road, repainted at Waterford

[Michael Baquerizo]

may i ask what that stem is? i don't see the nitto branding and it also 
seems to not have nitto hardware on the backside of the clamp. but the 
finish looks to be nitto like in quality. 

bike looks gorgeous and proportions look great too. looks like a bike that 
would fit me well.

On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 2:06:06 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> EXTRAORDINARILY BEAUTIFUL road bike, Cody !  I love the color blue.  
> Congratulations on getting it painting just in time before Waterford closed 
> its doors forever. I hope you cherish for a very long time. 
>
> You might want to get some helicopter tape to protect the finish:
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/ISC-Racers-Tape-HT2314-Helicopter-OG-HD/dp/B000QC6H90?pd_rd_w=8kH7d=amzn1.sym.1a072a44-84d1-4c51-bf0f-3547594e8217_rd_p=1a072a44-84d1-4c51-bf0f-3547594e8217_rd_r=VZG601ES949E5Q7M9W28_rd_wg=dlHaN_rd_r=95aa8ff8-7242-4f71-a2f2-6a0ab4ca742f_rd_i=B000QC6H90_=pd_bap_d_grid_rp_0_1_ec_t=1
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA. 
>
>
>
> On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 10:37:22 AM UTC-7 codyt...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Bought this from a list member over the winter, the frame got damaged a 
>> little in transit (no fault of the seller), so I decided on a 
>> repair/repaint. I was lucky to get this to Waterford just in time, it ended 
>> up being one of their last projects. I know at least a couple people saw 
>> the frame during the Waterford factory tour a couple months ago, thought 
>> I’d share a photo now that I’ve finished the build. Well, I’m nearly 
>> finished, I can see from the picture I put a tire on backwards. But just 
>> about there. Only have about 50 miles on it, but couldn’t be happier so far.
>>
>> Cody, Chicago
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] WTB: Nitto Promenade Bar

[Michael Baquerizo]

or maybe just to talk about it?

my son is due to upgrade from a balance bike to a pedal bike and because 
i'm me I want to switch things up a bit on whatever frame I end up buying 
him. I was intrigued that the bosco is just a bigger promenade bar so was 
wondering if anyone has experience with it and if it might be too much for 
a 4 year old. 

and if its cheap enough (they're already one of the cheaper nitto 
offerings) i'd love to take a pair of someones hands.

thoughts?

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[RBW] Re: New Build Day! Two Speed Road Bike

[Michael Baquerizo]

where do you rank this era of rivendell in comparison to todays? i know 
they were offered as budget alternatives to the MUSA models but are they 
better (whatever this means) than MIT? 

I may even be wrong about what i mean about 'this era'. To me this bike, 
the redwood, and bleriot are all from the same time. 

The Bleriot has always intrigued me but ultimately i'd love a custom Riv 
built to some lighter specs. Or maybe I don't know what im talking about. 

Well done. 

On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 1:45:06 PM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:

> Very cool build Bill, should be fun ride. I can see the value in a two 
> speed, I think I'll do one sometime.
>
> JohnS
>
>
> On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 1:06:29 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> I pounced on a local 59cm Romulus.  That bike has long been on my list of 
>> "I'd ride THAT" bikes, but it wasn't a terribly high priority.  This 
>> opportunity presented itself and got to work.  
>>
>> Cutting to the chase: here's the album  
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720310604809
>>
>> The bike was a mostly original Riv complete Rom build.  It had a mustache 
>> bar cockpit, and Silver bar con shifters, but otherwise was pretty much 
>> stock.  It's got nicks and scratches beau-sage but was in mechanically fine 
>> shape.  
>>
>> This is going to be a versatile road platform upon which I could 
>> implement a number of different build concepts.  The one that had been 
>> sticking in my mind, though, was a front-derailleur only road two speed. 
>>  The forthcoming Roaduno is allegedly going to have both a rear der hanger 
>> as well as the braze on bits to do a FRONT shifter.  Some listers vocally 
>> proclaimed that "silly", but it seems pretty sensible to me.  I had not 
>> executed a build of that kind, and this was my shot.  
>>
>> From "inventory" I pulled together a nice two speed road bike kit:
>>
>> The wheelset was "inherited" from my Crust Florida Man., which lives in 
>> Michigan.  When I built that bike, I used stuff I had on-hand, including a 
>> pair of HED Belgium rims.  Those are almost impossible to get anymore, so I 
>> built a new set of wheels around cheaper and wider rims to bring that 
>> wheelset back to California.  I just grabbed them off the hook.  I put a 
>> pair of used Compass Steilacoom 700x38 knobbier on there (with latex 
>> tubes!) and grabbed a 16/18 DOS ENO freewheel.  The rear hub is Surly Ultra 
>> New.  The front is a Phil Track hub.  I tossed on a pair of Shimano 
>> "CLICKR" SPD pedals.  
>>
>> The drivetrain centers on a Campy Centaur 172.5mm square taper cranks
>> Origin8 sealed BB (110.5)
>> blue chain guard
>> 39T tripleizer ring
>> 24T ring from the original Rom build
>>
>> The front derailleur is a heavily modified FSA that I had from earlier 
>> experiments.  The shift lever is a Shimano Ultegra "triple-color" model 
>> from he 1990s with an awesome return spring inside to make it really light 
>> action.  The tensioner is a modified XT rapid rise.  There's no return 
>> spring inside, from a desmodromic exploration.  I was able to adjust one 
>> limit screw so it hits the 16T cog.  The other limit screw was too short, 
>> so I replaced it with a long socket head M4x0.7mm bolt.  I can turn that 
>> one with my fingers.  Dialed out the RD "falls" to the 18T cog.  Dialed in 
>> I can push it to the 16.  
>>
>> The cockpit includes other parts box items.  I got the Salsa stem really 
>> cheap only to find it's like 25.8mm in clamp diameter.  I was waiting for a 
>> working-class build to force it to 26.0mm.  I spread it wide and got a 
>> 420mm Nitto Noodle in there.  I used the stock brake levers and some orange 
>> Newbaums.  I kept the original Nitto 65 seat post and installed the Brooks 
>> Pro saddle reclaimed from "Shawn's Hetchins".  
>>
>> Now it's ready to ride (after the shellac dries).  Maybe this will 
>> inspire some of the Roaduno builds later this year.  Enjoy
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>>

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[RBW] Knee Pain / Soulcycle exercise bike

[Michael Morrissey]

A few weeks ago my wife bought a SoulCycle bike. Although I made fun of it 
and said it wasn't “real biking,” I ended up really liking it. I 
immediately started riding it everyday. Unfortunately, I didn’t know my own 
limits. I was doing a class and another in the evening. Now, my knees 
really hurt and I can barely walk. 

I suspect my mistake might have been that I turned up the resistance too 
much - and I was going at two low of RPMs. Another possibility is that the 
bike fit is off - that the saddle is too low or forward. I was riding in 
those 5.10 bike sneakers, just on top of the pedals, not even clipless 
pedals, so that wasn’t it. 

Does anyone have any advice for me or know anyone who is an expert in bike 
fittings? I called one local bike shop and they quoted me $200 for a 
professional fit but I'm not sure that's what I need. I really could use 
some help. I just turned 40 years old so I guess this is a wakeup call that 
I need to take better care of myself. I am in New York City. 

Thank you,

Michael

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[RBW] Re: FS: 59cm Romulus

[Michael Hammer]

No surprise there, bubba.


On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 11:01:28 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Local to me so I nabbed this one.  :)
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 5:53:38 AM UTC-7 Igor wrote:
>
>> Amazing deal! If this was my size and there was someone willing I'd be 
>> asking for a proxy... 
>> Igor
>> -Michigan
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 10:15:46 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi bapeterson — I see the bike is available for local pickup only. You 
>>> didn't mention where you're located but guessing from your email somewhere 
>>> near Cal Berkeley? 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 9:08:46 PM UTC-4 bapet...@berkeley.edu 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Original owner. 59cm Romulus purchased in Walnut Creek.  $800 or best 
 offer

 Standard Riv Build:
 105 hubs
 araya rims
 105 headset
 105 Front der
 deore rear der
 shimano std reach side pull brakes (not sure which model)
 sugino xd2 triple
 11-32 cassette
 nitto s65 seatpost
 nitto moustache bar
 nitto technomic 8cm stem
 silver bar end shifters
 tiagra brake levers

 Local pickup only. No shipping
 Cash or Venmo

 Thanks for considering



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