Re: [RBW] Re: 1st Bombadil on Treasure Island

2016-10-24 Thread Patrick Kelly
If you get off bart at the west oakland station, you can then ride the "bay trail" around over to the bridge. That portion of the "bay trail" is interesting, some might say sketchy. But Middle Harbor Shoreline Park is kinda interesting to check out as well. Take a look at the bottom portion of

Re: [RBW] Locks

2016-10-22 Thread Patrick Kelly
The one, the best, the u-lock that I most highly recommend is the Abus Granit Futura 64, aka U-Lock 64/120HB150 It’s small, it’s light, it’s extra hardened. It’s rated by the manufacturer as more secure that some of their other (heavier) u-locks. Advantages/features of this lock: - small &

Re: [RBW] Re: What's in Your Cockpit?

2016-09-29 Thread Patrick Kelly
Finally got around to getting a photo of my cockpit. And a few other new photos, too. I swapped in a jones h-bar, and sold my choco-moose. I hope it's happy in its new home. The choco just wasn't quite wide enough for me when off-pavement. My current bar is too wide, if anything. I find myself

Re: [RBW] FS: riv choco-moose bar

2016-07-27 Thread Patrick Kelly
Sold! On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Conway Bennett wrote: > Or as soon as I have your PayPal address. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] FS: riv choco-moose bar

2016-07-27 Thread Patrick Kelly
Bars used briefly on my stock appaloosa. $120 including USPS shipping to U.S. cheerios -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Massively upgraded Appaloosa

2016-05-27 Thread Patrick Kelly
For myself, I believe replacing the brake cable housing was necessary. The brakes worked before. The bike stopped when needed. I never felt they were failing. But I wasn't happy with the feel of the brakes. Let's just say they did not feel satisfactory to me. My fix can't be classified as

Re: [RBW] Re: Massively upgraded Appaloosa

2016-05-25 Thread Patrick Kelly
I'll second that. I swapped out my brake housing as well. Don't remember exactly which housing it is, but it's what my local bike shop has a spool of. Much improved performance. No squish. I also swapped in some koolstop pads. Same stock v-brakes. They work fine for me. On Wed, May 25, 2016 at

Re: [RBW] Re: appaloosa pedal dust cover

2016-05-17 Thread Patrick Kelly
Yes, I like them very much as well. So far I have not torn up my shins on the pins, so all good. :) On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Jeremy Tavan wrote: > Thanks for posting this! I have a pair of these pedals (taken off an > Appaloosa build by my LBS), and will definitely

[RBW] appaloosa pedal dust cover

2016-05-17 Thread Patrick Kelly
Previously I discovered that I was missing a small part. https://flic.kr/p/G5obap It turns out that this is a "dust cover". I emailed dave@riv about it and he immediately sent me a replacement part (and a gratuitous sam hillborne brochure). So, awesome service on riv's part there. I just put in

Re: [RBW] Re: my joe appaloosa setup

2016-05-11 Thread Patrick Kelly
It's the wider one, 710. It's wide. Really wide. On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Chris Birkenmaier wrote: > Is your Jones bar the 660 or the 710? > > On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 4:35:31 AM UTC-4, Patrick D Kelly wrote: >> >> I've put together an album with a lot of tedious

Re: [RBW] Re: my joe appaloosa setup

2016-05-09 Thread Patrick Kelly
I had been trying to think of some way to add some space there for a while when I remembered those little extender things in my parts bin. I was pretty surprised that they actually worked, but the work really well. It really is a lot more solid than it looks in the photo. I was pretty pleased with

Re: [RBW] my joe appaloosa setup

2016-05-09 Thread Patrick Kelly
I really like the mondials. These are the 700c x 47, but to my eye (haven't measured) they seem narrower than the 700c x 45 bitumens that came with the bike. I've been riding these mondials for a couple years, I think. I don't put in that many miles, but they have barely worn. I get flats with

Re: [RBW] my joe appaloosa setup

2016-05-09 Thread Patrick Kelly
It's probably because I came off jones bar to the chocomoose, but the chocomoose seemed too narrow to me. This jones bar is the extrawide version, and I've thought about cutting it down. So far the extra inches haven't been a bother, but really I don't use the ends of the bar hardly ever. The

Re: [RBW] Re: An Amusing Bike Service Anecdote

2016-04-27 Thread Patrick Kelly
Valve stems. OMG. :) Anyway, I'd say keep going back to the "new woman-owned, and women-centred bike shop". And keep taking the bike with you. Eventually, somebody will get curious, and you'll be compelled to share the message with them. On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 7:35 PM, Cecily Walker

Re: [RBW] Re: Will Rosco see the light of day?

2016-04-21 Thread Patrick Kelly
Yes, the thing that held me back was the limit on tire size, and also the brake spec. I live v-brakes. Otherwise, I really like it, and would love to have something funky looking like that. On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 9:30 AM, ian m wrote: > I was really into the klunker style

Re: [RBW] Re: joe appaloosa photos, registration

2016-04-21 Thread Patrick Kelly
Will, That's a good point I hadn't thought of. It just so happens I used photos of my bike in front of the wall outside my house, so that works. But, I'm thinking even better would be to include a photo of yourself with the bike. Put that on bikeindex, and it's gonna be pretty hard to refute.

Re: [RBW] Re: joe appaloosa photos, registration

2016-04-20 Thread Patrick Kelly
It's a 55 with 700c wheels. Yeah, fenders would be nice, but I hardly ever ride in the rain, here. On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Dave Johnston wrote: > Looks great! Needs some fenders though. Is that the 51cm 650b size? > > -Dave > > On Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 3:40:11

Re: [RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

2016-04-20 Thread Patrick Kelly
Jumping in here pretty late... 'If you are willing to look at another person’s behavior toward you as a reflection of the state of their relationship with themselves rather than a statement about your value as a person, then you will, over a period of time cease to react at all.' - Yogi Bhajan

Re: [RBW] Appaloosa Flikr Group

2016-04-12 Thread Patrick Kelly
I'd been thinking of starting one, but figured somebody would do it eventually. :) Thanks! On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Edwin W wrote: > I figured since the Sam crowd had their own Flikr page, the Appaloosa crowd, > could to. Put your good (or in my case, bad)

Re: [RBW] Fully Clothed Joe

2016-03-31 Thread Patrick Kelly
Sweet! I kinda like the green brooks. Funky. Those brakes! Yeah, forget the atlantis. Get a mustard joe to make a pair. :) p.s. "fully clothed" ?? those are some naked looking bars, if ever I saw On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 12:12 PM, scott wrote: > Finished the bike,

Re: [RBW] Re: Those Long Chainstays and chains

2016-03-31 Thread Patrick Kelly
I wonder if "normal" local bike shops would have bulk chain rolls like riv? Buying chain by the foot might be the way to go. The idea of having a chain composed of different colors sounds kind of interesting. I'd like to see that in action. :) On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Bill Lindsay

Re: [RBW] More Appaloosa Scavenging: WTB Appaloosa Saddle and Pedals

2016-03-31 Thread Patrick Kelly
Sorry, I love the stock plastic pedals, and the stock plastic saddle is going on my daughters bike. :) Have you checked if riv will sell these items separately soon? On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 8:03 AM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > You bought a complete Appaloosa and don't like the

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Bombadil Frame, Wheelset, Dynamo Front Wheel, Gugino Double Crankset

2016-03-30 Thread Patrick Kelly
Here's a working link: https://flic.kr/s/aHsku4dPA9 What size is the frame? On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 12:13 PM, Sky Coulter wrote: > Justin, > > Maybe it's me, but the flickr link doesn't seem to be working. > > Sky in New West > > > On Wednesday, March 30, 2016 at

Re: [RBW] Re: Naked Appaloosa

2016-03-30 Thread Patrick Kelly
And there we have it folks: Joes look good naked, too. On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 9:06 AM, scott wrote: > > Bike with friends. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group

Re: [RBW] Naked Appaloosa

2016-03-30 Thread Patrick Kelly
When I saw the subject "naked appaloosa" I really was expecting some photos. :) It'll be interesting to see a "non-standard" appaloosa. Most important option: what handle bar will you be putting on? On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 8:17 AM, scott wrote: > My wife's 51 cm Joe

Re: [RBW] Stolen rivs in seattle

2016-03-30 Thread Patrick Kelly
Drop them a postcard. :) Aaron's Bicycle Repair, Inc. 9988 15th Ave SW Seattle, WA 98146 https://goo.gl/maps/e9cMDtVXAdA2 On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 2:07 AM, Edwin W wrote: > Nice work to that shop. I'm across the country, but wish I could pop by and > say "thanks!" >

Re: [RBW] Stolen in East Bay: Grey Saddlesack (large) + brooks B17 saddle (honey)

2016-03-28 Thread Patrick Kelly
I'm sorta guessing that the reason they took the bag was because it was attached to the saddle. It's known that you can resell brooks saddles for actual money, whereas I doubt your off-the-shelf bike thief would be able to sell a canvas saddle bag. So, I'm guessing that it was easier to take the

Re: [RBW] Re: Stolen rivs in seattle

2016-03-26 Thread Patrick Kelly
You should post the bikes info on bikeindex.org asap. I believe if you do, then it'll go out on https://twitter.com/stolenbikessea, too. On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Rivcyclist wrote: > I'm in Arbor Heights, I'll keep my eyes peeled. > > > On Saturday, March 26, 2016

Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa -- 100 mile report, whimsical photo and Want To Scavenge post

2016-03-23 Thread Patrick Kelly
"Loud pawls save pals" ? On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 9:16 AM, cyclotourist wrote: > Loud pawls save lives or something like that. > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Kainalu wrote: >> Check out the solid sounding frequencies coming from a White

Re: [RBW] New Bike Day

2016-03-23 Thread Patrick Kelly
nice! (but i'm biased) On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Brian Hanson wrote: > Received the amazing Appaloosa today! My wife loved it on first ride, and > the packing and condition was flawless as usual. Some pics after I > re-assembled. More to come as we get it

Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa -- 100 mile report, whimsical photo and Want To Scavenge post

2016-03-22 Thread Patrick Kelly
This may sound trite, but I'm gonna jump to amplify one word Bill used: easy. Riding my Appaloosa also struck me also as being "easy". It's a word that came to me when riding mine, but it sounds too trivial, almost, to speak of. I suspect that riding in a more upright position affects my riding

Re: [RBW] WTB: backabike bags

2016-03-19 Thread Patrick Kelly
That was the shortest 6-8 weeks ever. They are back in stock. On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 9:05 AM, Patrick Kelly <patr...@phlatphrog.com> wrote: > Awesome > > Thanks Bill! > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 7:29 AM, Bill Lindsay <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote: >> "Anyb

Re: [RBW] WTB: backabike bags

2016-03-19 Thread Patrick Kelly
Well I guess that means these bags are so awesome that nobody wants to let go of theirs. That's good in general, bad for me at the moment. Anybody have any clues when riv might have more in stock? I've already set up the auto stock notification email for all colors in the online store. On Mar 15,

Re: [RBW] WTB: backabike bags

2016-03-19 Thread Patrick Kelly
Awesome Thanks Bill! On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 7:29 AM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > "Anybody have any clues when riv might have more in stock?" > > I emailed Spencer who is the ordering and receiving guy from the RBW email > directory. I asked him when backabike bags will be back

Re: [RBW] Re: what bolts?

2016-03-18 Thread Patrick Kelly
Well, I haven't actually ordered the security bolts like I said I was planning to. But I did jump in on an interesting kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hexlox/hexlox-anti-theft-for-saddles-wheels-and-more-made Probably should have just ordered the security bolts, but I'm a

Re: [RBW] JoAppa has arrived!

2016-03-06 Thread Patrick Kelly
I did in fact pick up my new joe yesterday. It was raining all day yesterday, so didn't get a chance to get any photos. But today is basically gorgeous in SF, so I got to take some photos. https://www.flickr.com/photos/phlatphrog/sets/72157665354969562/ I managed to snag one of the very last

Re: [RBW] JoAppa has arrived!

2016-03-04 Thread Patrick Kelly
Yup, I received email notice yesterday that my bike is ready. Roughly 24 hours til pickup! I'm also eager to see the array of joes at riv HQ. And I still haven't ever seen the blue in person. On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > Well if yours is "in the

Re: [RBW] JoAppa has arrived!

2016-03-03 Thread Patrick Kelly
How about an unboxing video? :) I've been holding off starting a "anybody got a joe yet?" thread. Maybe there will be several deliveries today, eh? I'm planning/hoping to pick mine up Saturday... On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Christopher Murray wrote: > FedEx

Re: [RBW] Re: Joes are in, photos on da BLUG

2016-02-25 Thread Patrick Kelly
I think those blug photos make the dirty banana color (my name for their "mustard") look much darker than it actually is. If you check my photos from when I took a test ride (https://www.flickr.com/photos/phlatphrog/albums/72157663735364022) you can see a range of light/dark. I think the photos

Re: [RBW] Re: "Store Credit" on BLUG

2016-02-23 Thread Patrick Kelly
If you combine this with some of the complete bike pre-orders, you're getting some massive discounts. I hope riv has got their numbers cranked right... I've been wondering for a while if riv could do some kind of "membership" (ala REI) but actually leverage this to create a cash reserve. The

Re: [RBW] No bike parking lockable signs? What's going on these days???

2016-02-23 Thread Patrick Kelly
In some cases it's easier to lock up to the facilities than to a "bike rack". Compare these: https://www.flickr.com/photos/phlatphrog/18711501104/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/phlatphrog/24111773134/ But, yes, in general I appreciate it when there is a real, designated place to lock up. As

Re: [RBW] Re: Stealing bikes

2016-02-22 Thread Patrick Kelly
Both my sons have basically reached my height. One has moved away, but the other has recently taken over one of my bikes that I re-built in order to sell. I'm much happier with him riding it than needing to sell it. :) On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 8:49 AM, Ryan Fleming

Re: [RBW] Re: NAHBS Rivendell Owner's Bunch/iBOB Social Ride--Sat 2/27 5:30pm

2016-02-21 Thread Patrick Kelly
Erik Nohlin (doesn't ride riv, but hangs with people that do, I think) posted about doing an SF to SAC journey. https://www.instagram.com/p/BCCIrSQS_Ss/ "We're riding from SF to SAC for NAHBS. 08.15 ferry from Ferry Building. Stop for liquid lunch at Heretic and hydration at Bikedog. Chill - No

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis vs. Sam

2016-02-09 Thread Patrick Kelly
If one is trying to decide between an Atlantis and a Sam Hillborne, isn't the answer a Joe Appaloosa? :) On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 8:18 AM, Patrick Moore wrote: > Bruce: knowing the Fargo (at least, the 17" first edition, pre suspension > model) and not knowing the Atlantis,

Re: [RBW] FS: Garage sale! Wheels, Tires, Fork, Pedals, Derailleurs, Bike Bag, Complete MTB...

2016-02-09 Thread Patrick Kelly
Jeremy, Will that look bag hold a size 55 joe appaloosa, do you think? On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 6:55 AM, Jeremy Till wrote: > Hey Folks- > > Pressure from the wife and the need to offset costs of some recent > purchases/ upcoming projects means I'm doing a bit of spring

Re: [RBW] Re: Latest Blug, MUSA clothing, and Crapmanship

2016-02-06 Thread Patrick Kelly
While I wasn't totally satisfied with the musa knickers I had briefly, they did convince me that nylon is good for riding pants. For me, I like REI's "adventure pants" (http://www.rei.com/product/877606/rei-adventures-pants-mens-32-inseam). I have 2 pairs which I alternate almost continuously.

Re: [RBW] Re: Ready to Ride

2016-01-25 Thread Patrick Kelly
That black 55cm sam hillborne would be super tempting if I didn't already have a joe a. on the way. sweet. On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: > I'll never warm up to the name, but those red and white Roadeos are the bee's > pajamas. I'm not saying you

Re: [RBW] Re: joe appaloosa photos

2016-01-25 Thread Patrick Kelly
Hugh, Well, it is almost "mine" since that's the same size and color that I ordered. A big reason I wanted to go check it out in person. When I decided to order one, I knew that the bars would be a question. But I figured that if it turns out I don't like them, I'll just replace them. Given the

Re: [RBW] Re: joe appaloosa photos

2016-01-25 Thread Patrick Kelly
I didn't make note of exactly what those tires are. They are not the stock tires that will come with the bikes. I think they are 2.2". At least 2.1". They looked to me to be the fattest you could possibly fit on the bike. (Didn't get a good photo, but there is about zero clearance between the

Re: [RBW] Re: joe appaloosa photos

2016-01-24 Thread Patrick Kelly
Patrick, I'm not used to the bars yet. I feel most comfortable on them so far with my hands placed farther forward. I'm OK with sitting up more, and having my hands back. I think I'll have to spend more time before I make a real decision about the bars. It is true that there are multiple working

Re: [RBW] Re: OT Bike tagging and/or stolen bike registry?

2016-01-19 Thread Patrick Kelly
The most important thing, the number one thing, the thing you should do if you do only one thing is to record the serial number. And don't lose it. I actually started doing a bicycle registration service myself, and as a result did some "research" on bicycle registration services. I came away

Re: [RBW] Re: Joe on the BLUG

2016-01-06 Thread Patrick Kelly
Did you remember to inform Will that we're expecting hourly posts on the blug about how the assembly work is going? :) On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 7:41 AM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > 1-800-345-3918 Operators are standing by. I called yesterday to talk about > raw Hillborne forks on

Re: [RBW] Re: 25% off ANYTHING in Web Specials!!!

2015-12-31 Thread Patrick Kelly
In some video (don't remember which) Grant talks about tax implications of having lots of inventory. It's pretty clear that the riv strategy is to minimize inventory at end of year in order to combat tax issues. So, yeah, if you wanna save $$ on buying riv stuff, wait til the end of the year. And

Re: [RBW] Re: 25% off ANYTHING in Web Specials!!!

2015-12-31 Thread Patrick Kelly
Got email reply from Miesha about the coupon code not working for the sweater in the web specials. She said to just note the problem with the coupon in the notes section of the order and she'll fix it up on her end. On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Patrick Kelly <patr...@phlatphrog.com>

Re: [RBW] Mounting a Large Front Basket

2015-12-30 Thread Patrick Kelly
This may be sacrilege, but I use a racktime top-it front rack on a couple bikes to support a large riv/wald basket. http://www.rei.com/product/852184/racktime-top-it-front-bike-rack I then load up the basket, and tie sleeping bags and tents to the underside of the basket/rack.

Re: [RBW] Re: 25% off ANYTHING in Web Specials!!!

2015-12-30 Thread Patrick Kelly
I'm trying to get one woolpower quarter zip with the 25% off, but it's saying the coupon code is not valid. Experimentation shows it works for other items in "web specials". Sent email to miesha inquiring... On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 8:09 PM, Allan in Portland wrote: >

Re: [RBW] Re: (f)Atlantis winter rides

2015-12-22 Thread Patrick Kelly
Very often flash will ruin a photo, but I really like that last shot of the bike in the dark forest. :) Yup, don't get much snow here in my neighborhood, but I had a kick one winter when I got to ride in a very light snow in Austin, Tx. On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 1:03 PM, 'frank_a' via RBW Owners

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

2015-12-19 Thread Patrick Kelly
I briefly rode the 51 Joe at rivHQ. My size is 55, so it was a bit small, but it was totally ridable. I liked the new bars, and that was the thing I was most interested in checking out. I'm anticipating mounting the levers more forward and spending at least 50% of my time with my hands just behind

Re: [RBW] Re: Sunrace 'one at a time'

2015-12-16 Thread Patrick Kelly
I've got the one-at-a-time shifters on a marin "urban 29er" (hamilton). I have them mounted "backwards" which really seems like the right way to me, if you want to call them "thumb shifters". With this "backwards" mounting, they actually are operable by your thumb(s). Basically, I love them. I'm

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto longboy long stay rack

2015-12-14 Thread Patrick Kelly
, Dec 14, 2015 at 5:44 AM, iamkeith <keithhar...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Sunday, December 13, 2015 at 6:31:18 PM UTC-7, Patrick Kelly wrote: >> >> How do you mean the pletscher doesn't fit on the clem? What's the >> problem? Photos? >> > > I sh

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

2015-12-13 Thread Patrick Kelly
Do any riv bikes not have 27.2 seatposts? That seems to be the standard size of the posts that riv sells. I tried to check the geo spreadsheet, but no data there. Speaking of upgrades... What tires are folks thinking about? Anybody planning on just wearing out the included kenda kwicks? Or

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto longboy long stay rack

2015-12-13 Thread Patrick Kelly
How do you mean the pletscher doesn't fit on the clem? What's the problem? Photos? I must confess that I got the last longboy. I saw that there were only 2 in stock, and then 1, so I grabbed it almost 2 weeks ago. I pre-ordered a joe appaloosa and I was worried about using a "standard" rack (I

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

2015-12-11 Thread Patrick Kelly
he BLUG > is in fact a 55. It's still not built, but I held it. > > Bill Lindsay > El Cerrito, CA > > On Thursday, December 10, 2015 at 7:28:56 PM UTC-8, Patrick Kelly wrote: >> >> Thanks Bill! This is giving me the happy feels. I'm hoping it's built >> up and r

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

2015-12-10 Thread Patrick Kelly
Thanks Bill! This is giving me the happy feels. I'm hoping it's built up and ready for a test ride next time I'm in the neighborhood. Maybe a very long test ride. :) chee-hoo!! On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 9:33 AM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > "I'm wondering if this is another 51, or

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

2015-12-09 Thread Patrick Kelly
The new pix on the blug of another proto-appaloosa are pretty exciting. :) I like the fork, and somehow I extra like the RBW on the side of the fork crown. I'm wondering if this is another 51, or if this one is a 55. If I were able to actually read the tire size on the big bens to see if it's a

Re: [RBW] Re: rear racks for long chainstays

2015-11-28 Thread Patrick Kelly
The Logo Evo looks good to me for a couple reasons. I like the lower rail to hang panniers. Also I like that there is no guard rail at the front. This would make it better if I were to put a saddle bag on the bike. On a slight tangent, I wonder about custom racks. I really doubt I would do it,

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

2015-11-27 Thread Patrick Kelly
t;> chainstay length is, and the wheelbase on a 62cm frame. Thanks! Just >> curious, as I've been riding my QuickBeam with 45.5 cm from center of BB to >> center of rear axle, and it rides superbly. >> >> - Andrew, Berkeley >> >> On Saturday, November 21, 20

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

2015-11-21 Thread Patrick Kelly
I went back to riv HQ today to try out the proto-joe. It's officially a size too small for me, but it was fun to ride around. I took a bunch of photos of the new bar, hoping to better show the shape. (All uploaded, unedited, link below.) For myself, I expect I'll be mounting the shifters and

Re: [RBW] Re: The Tao of the Bosco Bar

2015-11-18 Thread Patrick Kelly
This really made me LOL. Hilarious On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 11:26 AM, iamkeith wrote: > Bosco bars will make *any* bike more comfortable. (& a Porteur rack > will make it more useful.) > > >

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

2015-11-15 Thread Patrick Kelly
I made it to riv HQ yesterday, and I did see the prototype. It's a 52. I was there to double check my size. I got a new PBH measurement of 86 instead of 87. I suspect I rounded up last time. I stood over a size 58 hillborne, and while it's theoretically possible for me, I'm convinced it's too big

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

2015-11-10 Thread Patrick Kelly
I'm planning to go by riv HQ and try out diff sizes, recheck my PBH and make sure I've got it right. I'm one who's currently ordered a 55 but thinking maybe I should be on 58. I did exchange emails with Brian @ riv, and that sort of reassured me that I probably have the right choice. Either way, I