Nice Ryan! Maybe this will ease the sting a bit - there's no PST on bikes, only
GST.
Tim in Vancouver
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Hi Zed! Thanks for this write up, it made me appreciate my Clem more than I
already do! If possible. This bike is such a great ride, no matter how you set
it up. That being said I wish I shared your same experience with front end
loads as I experience some shimmy with a Nitto big front and
Looks awesome Tom! Nice fender lines!
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+1 for the upright-bar-tt-position. I really enjoyed it on the boscos but also
achieve it on the albatrosses. I'm like boonen, cancellara, Sagan when I drop
it down. Well, not really but it feels fast.
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Thanks guys.
Kevin, I was able to use the existing shifter cables and didn't have to cut
them, they were quite long to begin with, and switching to albas also gave me
some length from the boscos. I got lazy with the brake cables though and was
able to switch out the levers without even
Again, sorry for the upside down photos, can't seem to figure that out, check
out this folder if you want to see better photos. Thanks.
https://flickr.com/photos/137638381@N05/sets/72157658944869634
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Rene, I scanned through your Flickr page and must say, you have/had an awesome
collection! Wow. And all the builds are very clean and classy, well done!
Looking at the latest additions to the Atlantis, specifically the front campee
rack, did you try and line up the lower mounting tang with
Hey Bob,
I can't comment on the Mixte comparison but I can on the fit of the 59 Clem. I
have a PBH of 90cm and my saddle height is usually around 78.5 and I love the
fit. I was a little leery of the top tube length and the stand over but I am
very happy with the fit and a 52 would have been
I show Ben's to have 2 in stock. $209. I am running one and am liking the form
and function.
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Bars are sold.
Bags still available.
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Hey Tom. Someone replied before you, if for some reason the deal falls through
I'll contact you first.
Thanks,
Tim
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> On Feb 22, 2016, at 9:21 AM, Palmer wrote:
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> Hi Tim,
> I would like the Bosco Bullmoose bars, but cannot get the reply to
*price adjust*
I guess I over priced the boscos, they are the tig welded version and not the
brazed. How does $75 shipped sound? They'll require a largish box so I'm sure
it won't be cheap to ship.
Thanks.
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Hey friends,
A few quality bike goods up for your viewing and shopping pleasure:
1) Nitto Bosco Bullmoose, 58cm wide. These came off my Clem a month ago. They
have a couple hundred easy Km's on them, essentially brand new. The only
visible blemishes are where the grips live, a couple
Hey David, do you ever make shopsack-style bags to fit wald baskets? A ranger
tan shopsack for my 137 would be sweet. Let me know if this is even possible
and how much one would be. Thanks.
Tim
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Thanks for confirming the shimanos fit on the sunrace bodies, Dave. I received
my ultegra bar ends but haven't installed them yet. I'm planning on trying bar
end first but am just waiting on some grip materials to arrive. If the bar ends
don't work out It looks like i could also mount the
Thanks Keith, she's doing okay but I can tell it's starting to wear on her. 2.5
weeks to go and the cast is off!
Sorry to rub that weather in, I use to hate when west coast people did that to
me when I lived in the colder climates! I hope you guys dig out soon and you
are rocking that Clem
Hey hey! Congrats Jim! A lot of good fatherly advice in this thread, but I'm
here to say that bikes and beer will be the key to survival! - not that I'm
condoning drinking to cope, I am a police officer after all! But I find that
getting away on my bike and having a beer is some of the best
Nice write up Mark! And the clementine looks awesome, stately was a good
adjective describing the ride and the looks. It's fun getting to know a new
bike and sometimes it takes a bit of time to learn and work out the quirks but
in the end I'm sure your Clem will be just as fabulous as the le
Looks sweet Joe. How do you like the ride?
Tim
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Wow! Congrats on the new bike Tim, it's beautiful. Definitely my favourite Riv
color combo. The more I look at roadeos the more I want to sell my 15lb carbon
race bike and buy one - and since I got my Clem it just hangs in the garage
collecting dust anyway. I had my heart set on a boulder all
Bill, I think you're bang on with your analysis and description, thanks for
breaking it down and examining/explaining the shifter.
I'm not upset at Riv for sourcing this part, its just less then ideal and the
nuances of the shifter in this application make it difficult to live with. This
is
I'd be willing to sell the shifters Bill if you are serious. But I want to make
sure I like the bar ends first and there is no chance that I would want to
dismantle the sunrace shifters and turn them in to thumbie bodies - if that is
even possible.
Deacon Patrick, that's funny I was looking
Sweet mixte! You have quite the harem of cool city/utility/fun bikes Mark!
Ya, I know what you mean with the front shifter, either I'm bumping it or maybe
it is rattling out of position as I'm always giving it a couple clicks to stop
chain rub. I was thinking it was a cable tension issue but
Well, I bit the bullet and bought some ultegra 8 speed bar end shifters. Gonna
run the rear indexed I think.
And heads up, I got them for a great price from chain reaction cycles, $70
Canadian, which is like what, $10 US? Haha just kidding, but a good deal. Threw
some $30 all silver deore
I thought that too Joe when I first saw them but shifting them is comfortable
enough. I push and pull with me thumb and sometimes on the rear shifter I use
my index finger from under the bar to push it up.
The real issue is this shifting, it's starting to drive me nuts. Last night I
went on a
Ya I will!! But now my wife is talking about a date night. Doesn't she know
there is another woman in my life? Her name is Clem, she was conceived in
California, born in Taiwan and has bolt ons from Japan. She's a little stout
but I like 'em that way!
Care home eh Joe? That's a tough job, my
Sorry Steve, I re-read that and it does need clarification: When I shifted to
the small chainring up front, the rear derailer started skipping, clunking and
became misaligned.
Good point about the chain length not being a factor and the tandem example.
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Love the big dummy! Hey Mark, have you tried hooking up the burley trailer yet?
Because of the shape of the Clem rear dropouts I wasn't able to install my
chariot trailer receiver. I guess we'll be needing this part to make it happen
https://burley.com/product/hitch-adapter/. However I read a
I think you're on to something Steve. Although, the first time I noticed the
wobble it I was on the aforementioned descent and I merely sat up to take off
my gloves and was coasting, not pedalling, when the shimmy initiated. But your
explanation seems more plausible than mine which is the
I made an interesting observation on last nights ride regarding front end
wobble. Prior to the ride I was looking at a couple photos of my Clem and
thought the saddle was tilted a little high, and on my last ride at times I
felt a little pressure. So I tilted it more level and no more wobble.
Glad I'm not the only one El Sapo. And I think I've read others gripping about
them on this group. With the complete Joe's and Sam's also coming equipped I'm
sure there will be more people complaining and switching out shifters.
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Thanks for the kinds words Wayne. Isn't riding bikes the best form of therapy?
It always helps me through the tough times.
My girl is such a trooper, and to top it off while at the hospital they did
blood work and she was diagnosed with celiac disease. Jeez. So the whole family
is going
Hey RDS. I'm really not loving the shifters. I'll preface that with the fact
that I come from a road background and have only ever ridden indexed rear
shifting. I had my front der, down tube shifter on my LHT set up in friction
for custom trimming, but never the rear. So on the Clem maybe I'm
Congrats Joe enjoy the new bike!
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Thanks Bob! One thing I'll say about the Bosco is that they have a lot more
useable grip options and It was nice to rotate through them on longer rides.
On the albas I'm mainly on the grips, maybe a bit in front of them and I found
a nice tt position with my forearms resting on the bars.
Thanks Shoji and Ben.
I never got use to looking down at the bullmoose, but boscos on a traditional
stem is a good look. And I agree, being able to adjust the angle is nice. That
being said, Riv did a good job on the angle of the bosco bars for me.
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Thanks Zed, maybe I'll play around with the tire pressure. Like I said it only
happens no handed and at very specific speeds, I'd estimate around 30-40km/hr,
so it's a pretty rare scenario and it's easy to correct.
Nice decal design btw!
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to edit them. Here's a flicker link if they are too annoying.
https://flickr.com/photos/137638381@N05/sets/72157658944869634
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I have a Nitto big front rack for my wald. I choose that one so I can run the
basket in conjunction with panniers.
Coincidentally, bens cycle is having an awesome sale on Nitto right now and
with the newyear2016 discount code a big rack comes to $150 with free shipping!
That a $60 savings. -
Hey Keith, thanks for posting those pics. Btw, Looks like a nice piece of
property you got there - enjoyed the view!!! Much whiter then over here!
i think I've figured out that a 1 to 2cm stem deduction from the boscos will
give me the position I am after. I always feel like the boscos come
Thanks everyone for the input. I sent a PM to Keith requesting comparison
photos of the albas and Boscos on the Clem but maybe others would want to see
them, Keith up to you if you want to post them here.
A lot of my desire to do a bar switch is fit related, but some of it has to do
with
Oh. And has to be 25.4. Not in to shimming.
Thanks again.
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"Habitual cockpit modifications require crafty part acquisition" - Said me,
today.
I've secured a new albatross bar to replace the Bosco on my Clem and now I need
a stem. I had a shopping basket all ready to go on riv with a stem and a couple
other goodies but I'd thought I'd check with my
In the next couple days I'm putting an order in for some Alba bars and tallux
stem for my Clem. My 59cm Clem has the stock bosco bull moose and I'm looking
for group input on what length stem to buy.
As we know the bosco bullmoose has a 12cm extension and I'm just wondering how
that should
I've been pleasantly surprised with its liveliness. I expected it to ride like
a tank but when I climb out of the saddle I don't feel like I'm losing
momentum, slowing down or fighting with the bike. I think it would benefit
from nicer tires, I'm running the stock kendas. It's not the
Me too! I'm going to pull the trigger on the 42s this spring. Not really a
review but here are some random Instagram comments on them.
https://instagram.com/p/-OwY4up45o/
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Ya I think you're right about the illusion. However, I think most 55cm joe
riders would also ride a 52 Clem, and the 52 Clem has a 61cm tt which I think
compensates well for swept back bars. Maybe the joe will be more versatile in
the bar selection dept. meaning it would be suitable to run
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, here or in other posts, but there are
some nice photos of the choco bar in staff bikes on grants cheviot. Not sure
how long they've been up, I pop by the staff bikes area for accessory
inspiration once in a while and just noticed. Kinda looks like a
Is that the medium minnehaha saddle bag? I just ordered one during VO's 20% off
sale (ends tonight I think). Bike looks great btw. Chris king, dura ace, and
gum walls, the finer things in life!
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Nice!! Congrats mark, looks great. I like the alx fenders, less shiny then the
plastic ones. Enjoy getting to know her!
Tim
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Do it! And take pictures. I did a nice 50km ride on my Clem a couple days ago
and was amazingly comfortable. While riding I was imagining where the hoods
would be on a drop set up and I think it would be doable for me. The boscos on
the other hand offer so many grip options that I'm not sure
I found one! Thanks everyone.
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Happy American thanksgiving from a Canadian! I don't normally "do" forums,
mainly because of all the bashing from Internet no-it-alls who apparently live
to belittle people's comments - do you even ride bros? - but this group is a
wealth of knowledge and inspiration. So, thanks for keeping it
Looks good my large Clem riding brother! Love mine too. Yours makes me want to
swap out the boscos for some Albas. However the more I ride the boscos the
more I appreciate them. I just prefer the look of the albatross and quill stem.
Happy riding!
Tim
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Anyone? PM me if you have one you want to unload.
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On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 8:53:11 PM UTC-8, Tim Wood wrote:
> So I installed the black Cascadias and I'm pretty happy with how they turned
> out. They went on smooth, fender line is dialed, the coverage is great and I
> don't mind the look.
>
> Tim
Damn iOS. Always f
Hey ant ritchey, thanks for the offer. I did a bit of research on both bars and
I think I'm going to hold out for an Alba. Also hoping for a tallux but the
deluxe may work. Thanks again.
Tim
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Ha! Yup, my yellow lab is crazy for that thing! And in looking at the photos
again I should have maybe picked a less busy back drop, but they were in haste.
Anyway, that's a generous offer, no pressure tho if you want to go through with
your order. I'll PM you later this weekend and we can
I had received a potential trade this morning but then the message was deleted
before I could reply? Cold feet or technical error? Either way the trade offer
still stands and if the person from this am is waiting to hear from me send the
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Hey Keith, you and I seem to enjoy fretting over bike details together! I was
laughing at myself as I literally have 3 sets of brand new fenders for my Clem
and I can't make a decision. Every time I rule one out I look at a picture or
throw them back on and change my mind. Oh the curse of
ext couple days.
Thanks for the feedback.
Tim Wood
Vancouver Canada
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I propose a trade: My barely used Bosco bullmoose off of my new Clem for your
albatross bars and Nitto stem. Based on riv pricing it seems like a good
straight across trade.
The boscos are sweet, stylish and comfy, but my 59cm Clem is big - in a good
way - and I just don't need the extra rise
Rack is sold. Thanks.
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I'm having fender dilemmas, mainly because I'm picky when it comes to fender
appearance. The first set I tried was the B65 in silver (my Clem is 700c), and
while they fit well over the stock 29x2.0, they looked awful, and huge. Maybe
the long stays expose the rear tire more but the fenders
I rock one of these and love it:
http://arcteryx.com/product.aspx?language=EN=Accessories=Toques_and_Beanies=Rho-LTW-Beanie
It pulls down low on my head, below the bottom of my ears, and is thin enough
to wear under a helmet.
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PM sent Ryan, no worries.
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Hey everyone,
I have a Tubus Tara, black, that I no longer need and wondering if there is any
interest in the group. It's in good shape with only minor scuffing where the
panniers attach. It's seen minimal use, maybe a total of 4 weeks of touring.
$75 USD shipped to lower 48 and Canada.
I
My 59cm Clem came with a 178 crank arm length, which got me thinking about how
that relates to saddle height and bb clearance etc. I've always run 175's but
is 3mm something to concern myself with? Probably not.
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Hey Mark,
With regard to the stock saddle, I only rode around a parking lot for like two
minutes on it and put my brooks on before my longer rides so I can't really
comment too much. It felt pretty good tho, it's a flat saddle and is wider then
my b17, it almost resembles the shape of a b67.
Looks good Zed, nice build. I'm curious to see how the front surly rack looks
on there, keep the photos coming!
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I just realized that my Tubus Tara won't work on the Clem without installing
mid fork clamps.
Does anyone know how the surly front rack would line up with the higher fork
braze ons on the Clem? What about the mid fork struts on the new soma porteur
deluxe? Maybe I'll have to pony up for the
Thanks Bob! Lemme know when they are up and a link to your Flickr account.
Cheers.
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Look at that grey!! Can't wait. I'm sure I'm biased but the 59 Clem's look
proportionately just right. Do you have any more Clem photos from your visit?
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Any Clem buyers regretting their decision? I'm waiting for my 59 Clem but the
58 Joe seems appealing. A lot of the same positive features (long chain stays,
tire clearance, high bars, load carrying capacity), but it seems the joe could
be set up as a drop bar fast tourer. I feel like the Clem
As the shipping date for my Clem draws nearer I am at an impasse with regard to
accessories. I'm pretty sure the Sks B65 fenders are the way to go, and a front
mounted wald basket is mandatory, but racks are still a question mark. I have a
Tubus Tara front low rider laying around but it's black
Let's see some more pics!!! Are they emailing everyone prioir to shipping?
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Keith, are you basing your dislike solely off of El Sapo's photo on the other
thread? Maybe the lighting is off or something and it will look different in
person.
Tim
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I really like that blue! The crank looks good do. And the vp pedals, are those
stock? So excited!!!
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I was wondering that too Wayne. In looking at the most recent photos on the
blug it appears they've added a lower braze-on a couple inches north of the
dropout which I assume would work for a rack stay. This would effectively bring
the rack inboard, accounting for the longer stays.
Not sure
That's a strange and curious pattern for sure. Curious as I feel that big gap
would be a very common and popular size for the average sized male (5'9-6'1).
What is a good amount of stand over anyway? If the 59 Clem with 700x60's has an
88cm stand over and I have a 90 pbh in bare feet, I think
Keith, great analysis. I have to admit, I thought I had a good grasp on fit and
geometry charts, but can honestly say that I have I no idea how front centre
translates to ride and fit. I come from a road background and always based my
sizing on tt length and head tube (a little thought was put
Bahaah. Gee, wonder why the guy is selling that thing? Right, because it's
un-rideable. Cheers.
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Hey all, looks like riv has posted the geometry chart on the Clem page. Must
have just went up. No stand over heights but the top tube lengths are listed.
Not sure if it's effective length or actual and how the 6 degree slope would
change the length if it is indeed the actual.
I'm a little
everyone!
Tim Wood
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