Re: Friction shifting 10 speeds with Silver shifters (Was: Re: [RBW] Turkey Vulture Gearing 101)

2016-09-27 Thread Daniel Jackson
I only wish this shifter could be used on pods... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

Re: Friction shifting 10 speeds with Silver shifters (Was: Re: [RBW] Turkey Vulture Gearing 101)

2016-09-26 Thread Clayton.sf
Shortly after this thread paused I broke my duraace dt 10 speed shifter. I ended up replacing it with that diacompe 10 speed / 11 speed dt friction shifter Justin mentioned two post prior. Just rode a century with it on Sunday. Worked amazingly well combined with a short cage shimano zee

Re: Friction shifting 10 speeds with Silver shifters (Was: Re: [RBW] Turkey Vulture Gearing 101)

2016-09-18 Thread Jon BALER
Keep in mind Shimano 10 speed road and mountain have different amount of pull. 10 speed road has the same total pull as 9 speed, so the pull for each shift is less. 10 speed mountain (Dynasis) has significantly more total pull, and the pull for each shift is greater. When Shimano dynasis

Re: Friction shifting 10 speeds with Silver shifters (Was: Re: [RBW] Turkey Vulture Gearing 101)

2016-09-17 Thread Michael Hechmer
Last summer at a tandem rally I chatted with a couple who had toured from the Maine coast into the adirondack with 10 speed friction. He reported that on balance I found it easier and more reliable than indexed shifting. Tandems, of course, have mega long cables which can easily throw

Re: Friction shifting 10 speeds with Silver shifters (Was: Re: [RBW] Turkey Vulture Gearing 101)

2016-09-16 Thread Justin August
http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/shifting-freewheels-cassettes/shifters/dia-compe-ene-11s-dt-shifters.html Plus there's these 11speed friction shifters. -Justin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

Re: Friction shifting 10 speeds with Silver shifters (Was: Re: [RBW] Turkey Vulture Gearing 101)

2016-09-16 Thread Clayton.sf
Interesting indeed! Might be time to revisit. Another interesting thing is that on Paul thumbing mounts Shimano 8 speed barend shifters pull enough cable to sweep the whole cassette 8, 9, or 10 speed with a Dynasys rear derailed. But, when mounted on the bar end pods they come up short on the

Re: Friction shifting 10 speeds with Silver shifters (Was: Re: [RBW] Turkey Vulture Gearing 101)

2016-09-16 Thread Reed Kennedy
And yes, I am glad to confirm that the Silver shifters pull plenty of cable for 10 speed on a standard pull derailleur. Don't know about a Dynasys one. I'd been planning to try it, but I think I'm gonna abandon that project now that I have the Velo Routier. I'll go so far as to say that 10 speed

Re: Friction shifting 10 speeds with Silver shifters (Was: Re: [RBW] Turkey Vulture Gearing 101)

2016-09-16 Thread Reed Kennedy
Good call Daniel! I bet that's why. It had never occurred to me that a narrower chain and cassette might be beneficial, but here we are. Neat! I'm happy to leave my other bikes on 8 and 9 speed, though. Reed On Friday, September 16, 2016, Daniel Jackson wrote:

Re: Friction shifting 10 speeds with Silver shifters (Was: Re: [RBW] Turkey Vulture Gearing 101)

2016-09-16 Thread Patrick Moore
I don't know if the road Microshift rd I used was a Centos; I expect not, because it was several years old and had no big Centos on it. But whatever it was, it was the very best shifting rd I've ever used, and shifted 9 mismatched with Silver BESs better than the current 8 speed Dura Ace does.

Re: Friction shifting 10 speeds with Silver shifters (Was: Re: [RBW] Turkey Vulture Gearing 101)

2016-09-16 Thread Lungimsam
My first Rivendell was a Bleriot with Ultegra groupset and shimano bar ends. Shifting was horrible in friction mode with 10 speed cassette. Crisp with the SIS function, though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

Re: Friction shifting 10 speeds with Silver shifters (Was: Re: [RBW] Turkey Vulture Gearing 101)

2016-09-16 Thread Daniel Jackson
My main reason for asking Clayton the question in the other thread was just to be sure that the Silvers can actually pull enough cable to work with 10 speed. I imagine there is no problem as overall cassette width between 10 and 9 speed is negligible. -- You received this message because you

Re: Friction shifting 10 speeds with Silver shifters (Was: Re: [RBW] Turkey Vulture Gearing 101)

2016-09-16 Thread Daniel Jackson
This is fascinating - I have heard both that friction shifting 10 sp is easier and that its harder than 9 sp. The main reason I've heard for the former is that there is less space between gears so you're never "out" of gear as you might be on a 9 speed. On Friday, September 16, 2016 at

Re: Friction shifting 10 speeds with Silver shifters (Was: Re: [RBW] Turkey Vulture Gearing 101)

2016-09-16 Thread Philip Kim
2x10 friction here with SLX RD. I use Microshift shifters in friction mode, I've used 8,9, and 10 speed friction. After a few shifts I get used to the cable pull and never think about it again. On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 2:08:41 PM UTC-4, Reed Kennedy wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at