Re: [RBW] Re: 650b new Rivendell models (to me)

2020-07-10 Thread Joel Stern
Thanks Dave. Using BSP now and also have the 48’s on my list. On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 7:51 AM Dave Johnston wrote: > If you are looking for plush and comfort you should seriously consider > going with a bigger tire. 48mm with fenders will work really well on the > Appaloosa or MIT Atlantis. >

[RBW] Re: 650b new Rivendell models (to me)

2020-07-10 Thread Dave Johnston
If you are looking for plush and comfort you should seriously consider going with a bigger tire. 48mm with fenders will work really well on the Appaloosa or MIT Atlantis. The current best tire in this category is the Rene Herse Switchback Hill. In whatever durability you feel most appropriate.

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b new Rivendell models (to me)

2020-06-29 Thread Joel Stern
John, no, I have not. I’m not sure it would give me a softer more stable ride, not that the Bleriot is not stable. I want to add as much Cush for my hands and back. The 42mm Baby Pass have done well in that area. On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 7:40 PM 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch <

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b new Rivendell models (to me)

2020-06-29 Thread 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch
Joel Have you considered a seatpost with more setback? The 1° slacker STA gives you approx 1.5cm more setback (Atlantis vs AHH) which can be obtained using a VO Grand Cru seatpost or the Nitto lugged CrMo post RBW sells. John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Monday, June 29, 2020 at 4:01:36 PM

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b new Rivendell models (to me)

2020-06-29 Thread Joel Stern
John, Actually I would like to go a bit more relaxed than the Bleriiot. That put the AHH in the same category as the Bleriot from what I have been reading. On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 3:49 PM 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Joel > > The MUSA frames

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b new Rivendell models (to me)

2020-06-29 Thread 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch
Joel The MUSA frames were sized 2cm apart with a 2° sloping TT. Looks much better. The frame is too long for me. If not, I would ask him if it was MUSA or MIT. If MUSA, it's a very good del. If MIT, not bad deal, but unless you need his parts, you would be better off buying a new frame

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b new Rivendell models (to me)

2020-06-29 Thread Bill Schairer
I recently installed Paul touring cantilevers on my Atlantis for no particularly good reason other than I wanted to. I was very pleasantly surprised at how easy they were to set up and easy to release and reattach. SO much easier than the stock Shimanos they replaced. I’m running 50mm tires

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b new Rivendell models (to me)

2020-06-29 Thread Joel Stern
Thanks John. Were the MUSA bikes different in sizing. With the MIT ones I would use 51. Thanks, Joel On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 8:15 AM 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Joel > > You probably saw this, but a 54.5cm AHH is for sale on this > > FS:

[RBW] Re: 650b new Rivendell models (to me)

2020-06-29 Thread 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch
Joel You probably saw this, but a 54.5cm AHH is for sale on this FS: 54.5 A. Homer Hilsen with extras Might be worth an inquiry. Don't know if it is MUSA or MIT. The 56cm EffTTL is too long for me with a 5cm stem and RH Randonnuer bars. PS, you may need a shorter stem on the new MIT's

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b new Rivendell models (to me)

2020-06-29 Thread Joe Bernard
Thanks, Ash! (I secretly hope it becomes a production model, too..like a low-step version of the Appaloosa) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b new Rivendell models (to me)

2020-06-29 Thread Joe Bernard
White Industries hubs, Mi5 and some other name up front, Velocity Atlas rims. Rich Lesnik built of course! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b new Rivendell models (to me)

2020-06-28 Thread Ash
This is one of the coolest bikes in existence! I'm rooting for this exact geometry to become a production model. On Sunday, 28 June 2020 11:49:34 UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > You mean this one?? Definitely long chainstays which was Grant's choice, > and I picked the drop-toptube because I

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b new Rivendell models (to me)

2020-06-28 Thread Joel Stern
Joe, what hubs and rims are you using? On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 2:53 PM Joe Bernard wrote: > Here's a couple more photos. > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/3wpygKkdeVfaAzh47 > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b new Rivendell models (to me)

2020-06-28 Thread Joel Stern
Joe, thanks. I was thinking about maybe going cassette and index. It is probably easier on your hands. I have a nice Deore 9 speed rear derailleur. I have velocity synergy rims now, wonder what looks good today? I will have to learn more about V brakes, I see from reading on Rivendell that

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b new Rivendell models (to me)

2020-06-28 Thread Joe Bernard
Index rear, friction front..my days of pretending I have the patience for rear friction are DONE. I highly recommend the Shimano DXR v-brakes you see on my bike, they're super easy to disconnect for wheel removal. And pretty! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b new Rivendell models (to me)

2020-06-28 Thread Joel Stern
Really nice. I may have to decide if I will use my side pulls (if I can) or go to Cantis. Only used Cantis on my allrounder many years ago and sold a NOS pair of Suntour Expert I think a couple of years back. I want something easy to release and reattach. Nice colors too. Beautiful bike On Sun,

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b new Rivendell models (to me)

2020-06-28 Thread Joel Stern
Joe, just looked at the bike again, are the shifters friction or have you gone to index? Index may be in the cards for me but then I would have to build up another rear wheel and I have that spare Velocity rear that I was using for the rollers with fork mount when I could after my surgery. Also,

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b new Rivendell models (to me)

2020-06-28 Thread Joel Stern
Well Joe, now that is a good question. It goes back and forth., So I had this revision surgery in December on my right and it is about 30% better but if I use it to work around the house it flares. But now the left has gotten worse due to my using it more and I just had an injection because it was

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b new Rivendell models (to me)

2020-06-28 Thread Joe Bernard
Sounds like a plan, Joel, Mark will definitely show you the way to go. About the arthritis which I also have, is one hand worse than the other? My bad one is the right and if you look closely at my custom you'll see that the shifters are swapped. Most of my shifting is the rear and done with

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b new Rivendell models (to me)

2020-06-28 Thread Joel Stern
I don't know, I never bonded with 26" wheels, my AR was never a favorite but it was nice just never a first choice. I actually have an extra rear build up with a FW (which brings up the other issue, do I want to go cassette, but I see no real reason too). Also, any thumb shifters are out as I

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b new Rivendell models (to me)

2020-06-28 Thread Joe Bernard
If you can do 26" wheels there's a 50cm Atlantis frame on the Riv site. You'll need to score new (or used from Craigslist) wheels, but this would keep wheels under the Bleriot for rebuilding that frame later. https://www.rivbike.com/products/copy-of-50cm-atlantis-demo-bike PS. The latest 50cm

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b new Rivendell models (to me)

2020-06-28 Thread Joel Stern
Joe, you pinned me, the lady like frame is hard for me but the Atlantis and Appaloosa (should it come back in stock) are looking very nice to me. My thoughts are to use my components from the Bleriot, will never find the Suntour stuff I have again, and if I love it then I can get some other

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b new Rivendell models (to me)

2020-06-28 Thread Joe Bernard
Joel, I've owned a 55 Bleriot. Nice bike, too long ago to remember steering but even then that frame was too talk for me and I'm certainly older/creakier now. I know there's another opinion on this thread about standover not being important, but it is to me..I like knowing when I pop of the

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b new Rivendell models (to me)

2020-06-28 Thread Joel Stern
Indeed it is. I was out before retirement after 2 back surgeries, hence my fear of riding, but after 2 successful RFA treatments pain is controlled. I used to be embarrassed when people asked what I do all day, now I just say, I’m retired, whatever I want. And now I can ride again, life is good.

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b new Rivendell models (to me)

2020-06-28 Thread ted
Joel, I'm sure you deserve a 401k funded retirement treat. It's great you are able to ride again. I too am recently (~1.5yr) retired. Great deal aint it? Everybody should be so lucky. On Sunday, June 28, 2020 at 10:53:23 AM UTC-7, Joel Stern wrote: > > Ted, I have had 8 Rivendells before my

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b new Rivendell models (to me)

2020-06-28 Thread Joel Stern
Joe, I think so too but no new ones for now. It seems to be what I am thinking about. Not sure if you have had a Bleriot, rode mine today, had a close call, my fault and another with what I will call stability of the front. Just put on 42cm tires (has 32 Grand Boise before) but I know that was

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b new Rivendell models (to me)

2020-06-28 Thread Joel Stern
I’m waiting for him to get back to me thanks On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 3:24 PM Joe Bernard wrote: > Speaking of which (sorry I'm not remembering everything and putting it all > in one post), Rich Lesnik @ Riv is selling a very nice 51 Appa. Look for > his post "mustard-gold Appaloosa" on this

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b new Rivendell models (to me)

2020-06-28 Thread Joel Stern
Joe, absolutely beautiful, and a one of a kind. On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 2:49 PM Joe Bernard wrote: > You mean this one?? Definitely long chainstays which was Grant's choice, > and I picked the drop-toptube because I like the clearance and the look. > The look gave me the heart seatlug and RBW

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b new Rivendell models (to me)

2020-06-28 Thread Joe Bernard
Speaking of which (sorry I'm not remembering everything and putting it all in one post), Rich Lesnik @ Riv is selling a very nice 51 Appa. Look for his post "mustard-gold Appaloosa" on this list. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b new Rivendell models (to me)

2020-06-28 Thread Joe Bernard
Joel, About the production frames, I had a 51cm Appaloosa, great bike, I think you would love it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b new Rivendell models (to me)

2020-06-28 Thread Mark Roland
Yes, you really no longer need to think in terms of "largest size" with the newer Rivendels. The idea behind that was based on the more traditional diamond frame with level or only slightly sloping top tube, so that you could get handlebars high. The newer frames account for that without

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b new Rivendell models (to me)

2020-06-28 Thread Joe Bernard
Here's a couple more photos. https://photos.app.goo.gl/3wpygKkdeVfaAzh47 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b new Rivendell models (to me)

2020-06-28 Thread Joel Stern
Joe Bernard? I have not seen his custom but until I started riding again I have not been active here. Something to think about. First I thought you were talking about a Joe built, he did my 56cm Joel Green. On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 2:12 PM Doug Hansford wrote: > Joel, > Tap that 401k!! Have

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b new Rivendell models (to me)

2020-06-28 Thread Doug Hansford
Joel, Tap that 401k!! Have you seen Joe B.'s custom? It has a nice sloping top tube and I think maybe 650b? You SHOULD treat yourself to a retirement gift. All those years of saving in your retirement accounts was good discipline and now you should not feel guilty for investing in a nice bike.

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b new Rivendell models (to me)

2020-06-28 Thread Joel Stern
Ted, I have had 8 Rivendells before my accident 10 years ago, 4 were still with me. Sold 3 of my last 4 as I thought I would not ride again but kept the Bleriot in the hope that I would as I bonded with the 650b. Now retired and riding again and I have not touched my 401 money. Maybe I deserve

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b new Rivendell models (to me)

2020-06-28 Thread ted
Hey Joel, Prices have certainly gone up since the Bleriot days, I think a lot of that is just years of inflation but still ... I encourage you to give the fine folks at RBW WH a call to discuss ride and handling of current models wrt your Bleriot. That said I would expect the AHH to be closer

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b new Rivendell models (to me)

2020-06-28 Thread Joel Stern
Hi Doug, I have been buying the largest I could ride, that is why the ‘new sizing’ confused me. I am learning about how it relates to the TT newer slope. I think Grant had me at or close to 84, I got as high as about 82.5. Will try one more time later. I agree with you on riding as large as I

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b new Rivendell models (to me)

2020-06-28 Thread Doug Hansford
Joel, Funny about Grant measuring your PBH. I've never been to Rivendell but have talked to Grant about bikes by phone. He asked my PBH and I told him I measured it at 83 and he said "you're probably an 85". I think he figures most folks don't get all the way up to bone when they measure. I

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b new Rivendell models (to me)

2020-06-28 Thread Joel Stern
Ted, thanks. I am beginning to understand the slopping TT and what that means. From what I am reading I would be a 51 on the Homer and Appaloosa and a 50 on the Atlantis. My Bleriot was a bargain as these new MIT models are snout what I paid for my first Road, and my next custom was just a tad

[RBW] Re: 650b new Rivendell models (to me)

2020-06-28 Thread ted
Joel, The top tubes of most MIT Rivs (including the MIT AHH and Atlantis) have significantly more slope than the older models like your Bleriot. Therefore the size for a given bar height with respect to seat height is smaller, and ones proper size based on pbh is smaller. Stand over is