[RBW] Re: BLUG: Erin's Custom

Wow, that's gorgeous! I believe this is the same bike. https://twitter.com/HartleyCycles/status/711492212308238336?s=19 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

[RBW] Re: BLUG: Erin's Custom

I fell instantly in love with that bike when I saw it on the Blahg. *That's* the kind of bike that could inspire me to go custom again. Dave > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: BLUG: Erin's Custom

Wonder if it’s the same Erin who owns the Atlantis on the previous Blug? If so, that’s a pair of gorgeous rides to have available. Best, Rich in ATL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: BLUG: Erin's Custom

That was true for the first run. Now most of them have a socket lug and straight stays, but the big one keeps the original with bent stays. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Re: BLUG: Erin's Custom

Mark, I believe the reason for the bent seat stays is because of the seat lug, which is not custom for each size. Since the exit angle from the lug is the same across several sizes, it means some need a bent stay for the tube to connect from the seat cluster to the rear dropout (an

[RBW] Re: BLUG: Erin's Custom

Meant to add, I like it because they echo the main swoop dee doop. Not because of the obvious shock-absorbing and speed benefits. On Friday, August 23, 2019 at 8:17:18 AM UTC-4, Mark Roland wrote: > > > Speaking of Clem Ls, one thing I liked about my ver.1 Clementine was the > swoopy seat

[RBW] Re: BLUG: Erin's Custom

Pretty close. Mark @ Riv mentioned that the head lug has to be modified to get 90°; to my eye the TT/ST joint isn't quite 90. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

[RBW] Re: BLUG S240 Post

Yes, pretty sure that's the "Huge Roscoe Mountain Mixte," which differentiates it from the "Roscoe Mountain Mixte." (Not gonna link the well-actually-that's-a-step-thru-discussion) Here's a group thread on it: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/Qc-uqULjezA%5B1-25%5D

[RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

Glad to hear it...kind of assumed you did...I'd hate to see it ripped off. On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 10:55:09 AM UTC-6, panog wrote: > > @Ryan F. > > Yes, fortunate to have a very secure place to keep the bike at work. No > bike lock needed. > > On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 11:01:26 AM

[RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

@Ryan F. Yes, fortunate to have a very secure place to keep the bike at work. No bike lock needed. On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 11:01:26 AM UTC-5, Ryan Fleming wrote: > > Wow that is some build ..can't wait to see it. Obviously you have a very > secure place at work to house such a treasure

[RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

Wow that is some build ..can't wait to see it. Obviously you have a very secure place at work to house such a treasure On Friday, February 3, 2017 at 9:03:11 PM UTC-6, panog wrote: > > Thank you all for your kind words! Mark sent me a few pics yesterday and > although I have not seen the bike

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Thanks Patrick. I'll convey the message. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

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I generally don't expend a lot of mental sweat on frame color, which is good since I'm somewhat color blind, but generally I don't care for orange (sorry Eddy). But I have to say that your wife's choice is pretty darned nice; it certainly would tempt me away from my current fave of sage green with

[RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

The last few days I have received a lot of compliments about the color chosen; started with Joe, then Mark and went on and on. I must admit that choosing the color proved for me to be the hardest part of putting the bike together. I had all the bike features and mechanical bits figured out by

[RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

George, As Keith mentioned, SH is the Saddle Height measured from the center of the bottom bracket to the top of the saddle. The standover height measured from the floor to the top of the top tube at around the middle of its span is 89.05cm with 42mm tires. My PBH of 91.5cm + shoes (2 cm)

Re: [RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

My '99 Joe and '3 Curt both have the same 44.5 cm stays. That length certainly doesn't slow handling! (The bike is a very weirdly perfect combination of quick turn-in and stable straight line movement.) On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 12:41 AM, wrote: > My custom Riv from 1999 – JB

[RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

Ahh, thanks. I feel better now. We have so many acronyms and abbreviations in this industry/blog that it's sometimes easy to get them confused. Maybe I'll sleep better tonight...then again, maybe not since I'm fighting a case of this flu that's been going around. On Sunday, February 5, 2017

[RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

George, By SH he means Saddle Height relative to the BB. Keith -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

I frequently have difficult sleeping all night; I wake up and then all kinds of issues and problems of the day/week/era begin racing through my mind and some of them bother me to the point where I can't get back to sleep. Last night was no exception after having read through the threads on

[RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

Pano I used this equation2xCSLength + (F+R)/4 + 1, F & R are the large ring/cog, 46 & 32 in your case. John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Sunday, February 5, 2017 at 8:59:47 AM UTC-5, panog wrote: > @John H. > > Great! Not having to mend a chain would be convenient, John. It computes > to

[RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

@John H. Great! Not having to mend a chain would be convenient, John. It computes to 116 links for up to a 34t cog. Never actually sized a chain with the "equation method" before. It would be interesting to see how it compares to the other methods. -- You received this message because you

[RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

Pano The 47cm CS and your gearing (46-32) computes to a CHAIN length of 57.5", or rounding up to 58". This allows for the normal 116 link chain. John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ. On Saturday, February 4, 2017 at 10:27:05 PM UTC-5, panog wrote: > @John H. > > The 47cm chainstays were Grant's

RE: [RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

“ stays. Olof Stroh Uppsala Sweden From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of panog Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2017 4:54 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom @Don C. I think the longer stays

[RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

@Don C. I think the longer stays (47cm) are there to predominantly compliment the intended performance of the bike and not just for tire (up to 42mm) clearance. Looking at the RBW geo charts, the 63 AHH has 45cm CS and fits up to 43mm tires while the 62 Hillborne CS is at 45.5cm and fits up to

[RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

@John H. The 47cm chainstays were Grant's decision and seemingly one of the twists he did on my Hilsen-like custom. The thinking is that there is no reason for shorter than 47 considering also that my SH is at 80.5cm. The notion here is being positioned less on top of the rear wheel which

[RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

Would his bike need the extra space for the larger tires and fenders? Just a thought. On Saturday, February 4, 2017 at 3:58:56 PM UTC-8, John Hawrylak wrote: > > Pano > > The 47cm CS seem 2 to 3cm longer than normal.Were longer CS > a conscience decision > > John Hawrylak > Woodstown NJ

Re: [RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

/Where black is the color, where n plus one is the number// //And I’ll tell it and think it and speak it and breathe it// //And reflect it from the mountain so all souls can see it/ On 02/04/2017 06:54 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: HA! "Or not" is the problem, Steve. I have a tendency to buy new

[RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

Pano The 47cm CS seem 2 to 3cm longer than normal.Were longer CS a conscience decision John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Friday, February 3, 2017 at 10:03:11 PM UTC-5, panog wrote: > > CS length 47cm > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

Stopped by to pick up an order today and got a glimpse in person. Wow! Gorgeous color, unbelievable lug work, and incredible attention to detail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

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HA! "Or not" is the problem, Steve. I have a tendency to buy new bikes, then "forget" to sell the old ones ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

Re: [RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

You have the sequence of events reversed. First you order the new one; when it comes, you sell the old one. Or not. On 02/04/2017 06:14 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: I really need to stop staring at your frame before I sell my Appaloosa and order a custom. "Make it just like Pano's, but Candy

Re: [RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

I really need to stop staring at your frame before I sell my Appaloosa and order a custom. "Make it just like Pano's, but Candy Apple Red."  -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

So beautiful! I can't wait to see it built up. On Friday, February 3, 2017 at 6:17:26 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > Of all the Riv customs I've ever seen, the one shown on the BLUG today is > the one I would be most likely to copy. > > WANT! > > Bill Lindsay > El Cerrito, CA > -- You

Re: [RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

Jiminy Christmas! What a beautiful bike. I too was surprised about some of those features. I got the internal routing, seat stay pump peg and chain slap guard on my custom MAP and really like all those features. I thought I was done adding bikes for at least a couple of years but now I'm not so

Re: [RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

Absolutely! Looking forward to it! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

[RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

Makes me want to recondition my Orange Rambouillet, erasing sixteen years of beausage and adding a couple of braze-ons. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Friday, February 3, 2017 at 6:17:26 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > Of all the Riv customs I've ever seen, the one shown on the BLUG today is

[RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

Wow, that geometry sounds perfect (and would fit me great). Please do post pictures when you get it built up! On Friday, February 3, 2017 at 7:03:11 PM UTC-8, panog wrote: > > Thank you all for your kind words! Mark sent me a few pics yesterday and > although I have not seen the bike in person

[RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

Reply to the question about the tubing used: Discussed with Grant what the intended purpose of the bike is and trusted him to do his thing. He did use what he called the Riv standard; 28.6 for the TT and ST, 31.8 for the DT. Frame geo stats on a prior post. On Friday, February 3, 2017 at

[RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

Thank you all for your kind words! Mark sent me a few pics yesterday and although I have not seen the bike in person yet, it looks from the pics well balanced and every bit how I envisioned it. The bike has been in the making for about 18 months now; the first six in my mind, trying to justify

[RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

I am personal friends with Pano, and I will say he is a man of details. This frame is beautiful. He has some beautiful bikes in his collection, but his seams eager to get his new bike. After seeing the photo set of this frame, I now know why! I am jealous of his new pony! Keith -- You

[RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

when I bought my first 2 rivs , they sent you a diagram with frame angles and tube specs... I think they may have been scans of Grant's design drawings with shorthand for the tubing. I didn't get something like that this time. I thought the info was kind of neat and interesting and I don't

[RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

Groan. Every time something like this comes along it's in a frame size about twice too big for me. It's a beauty all right - kinda reminds me of some of those frames Waterford makes. Wait! OTOH, maybe it's a good thing that it's too big or else I'd be trying to add yet another bike to my

[RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

Very beautiful. Is there any info about the tubing specs and the frame geometry? John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

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Wait, WHAT? internal brake cable routing? She is a beauty. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

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Is pretty much perfect, all the way down to the color. Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

on the other hand I am very happy with how my mixte turned out and looking forward to riding it in the spring. On Friday, February 3, 2017 at 5:22:47 PM UTC-6, Ryan Fleming wrote: > > it's a beauty, eh? > > On Friday, February 3, 2017 at 5:17:26 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote: >> >> Of all the

[RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

it's a beauty, eh? On Friday, February 3, 2017 at 5:17:26 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > Of all the Riv customs I've ever seen, the one shown on the BLUG today is > the one I would be most likely to copy. > > WANT! > > Bill Lindsay > El Cerrito, CA > -- You received this message because

[RBW] Re: BLUG?

On Monday, November 28, 2016 at 4:48:44 PM UTC-5, LBleriot wrote: > > Okay, I'm not seeing the BLUG link on Riv's new website. What am I > missing? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[RBW] Re: BLUG?

On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 1:42:33 PM UTC-5, masmojo wrote: > > I had the same problem I think it's falling off the edge of my screen? Now there's BLUG and Grant's Blahg... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: BLUG?

I had the same problem I think it's falling off the edge of my screen? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: BLUG?

On my phone it's in the upper left menu now. Yesterday it was a subhead under Reading, but now it's Blog. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: BLUG?

I see a "Blog" link on the upper right of the rivbike.com site, which links me to the BLUG. On Monday, November 28, 2016 at 1:48:44 PM UTC-8, LBleriot wrote: > > Okay, I'm not seeing the BLUG link on Riv's new website. What am I > missing? > -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: blug notes

Party on, Garth. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: blug notes

H, Love is The Greatest For Love needs no reason, no belief, no rationale , no acts , no his-story . . . . Love makes no demands . . . nor denials . . . nor changes Love is the Greatest for Love is the One and only , the only " I " that ever is . -- You received this

[RBW] Re: blug notes

I would commit apostasy if I were to agree with Grant’s credo, and so would millions of others of various faiths. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Re: blug notes

me/ informal exclamation 1. 1. expressing a lack of interest or enthusiasm. "Meh. I'm not impressed so far" adjective 1. 1. uninspiring; unexceptional. "a lot of his movies are … meh" On Friday, November 11, 2016 at 6:43:51 AM UTC-8, Kellie wrote: > > and Daniel, that

[RBW] Re: blug notes

#imwithhim On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 4:48:48 AM UTC-8, Olof Stroh wrote: > > Just went to the new site and read Grants blug 24 hours after. Enough to > make me support Riv. As that should be necessary. > > > > Olof Stroh > > Uppsala Sweden > -- You received this message because you

[RBW] Re: blug notes

Whether you agree 100% or not, it takes great courage for a "small business" person to share their perspective on any potentially divisive issues (Perceived or otherwise). He deserves great kudos and support in that respect. On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 7:48:48 AM UTC-5, Olof Stroh

Re: [RBW] Re: blug notes

Grant, what I also took from your posting was that it's a stand against indifference. There is a very famous man who makes fun of the handicapped. Millions of people appear to be indifferent to that. He became president even though we know that about him. In the face of strong evidence for

[RBW] Re: blug notes

Thanks for reading it--that's it, as intended, 100 percent, Eamon. As the world gets more crowded, there's a need for more tolerance. There's an out of print book (it's Amazon-usedbookable) called The Human Zoo, written by Desmond Morris. His take on what goes on in a crowded world that doesn't

[RBW] Re: blug notes

and Daniel, that means what exactly? On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 5:58:39 PM UTC-8, Daniel D. wrote: > > meh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

[RBW] Re: blug notes

Fathoms to fathom! On Friday, November 11, 2016 at 1:06:47 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Stay away from Twitter if you don't want to fathom this. There's a great > deal to fathom there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

[RBW] Re: blug notes

Thanks Olof for the heads up. Interesting take on things; I do enjoy my Riv's. On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 7:48:48 AM UTC-5, Olof Stroh wrote: > > Just went to the new site and read Grants blug 24 hours after. Enough to > make me support Riv. As that should be necessary. > > > > Olof

Re: [RBW] Re: blug notes

I agree with a lot of what Grant writes, but it's not 100%, not even this time. I am glad I finally have a Riv, though. Tim On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 3:06 PM, Austin ^ wrote: > +1 it made me glad I have a pair of rivs and that I just sent some > currency their way for

[RBW] Re: blug notes

+1 it made me glad I have a pair of rivs and that I just sent some currency their way for a few things. I don't usually find myself fully in agreement with Grant's perspective but this time 100%. On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 4:48:47 AM UTC-8, Olof Stroh wrote: > > Just went to the new

[RBW] Re: blug notes

Yes thanks for posting Olaf. Grant managed a nice modesty in his response which is admirable too. Once there I found myself reading some of his other how-to cycling essays on the riv site. I always appreciate how his perspective can remind me riding a bike doesn't have to be some form of

[RBW] Re: blug notes

In the USA we believe in taking turns, 8 years of Ds then the Rs get a chance. A continuing snake dance of progress. We had 8 years of Clinton, then 8 Bush II then 8 Obama. Fair is fair. As Mao said, "Let a hundred flowers bloom" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[RBW] Re: blug notes

meh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: blug notes

Simple, good thoughts that seem obvious to me, and just common sense from a humanity-moving-forward standpoint. We need stuff like that right now. Thanks, Grant. dougP On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 4:48:48 AM UTC-8, Olof Stroh wrote: > > Just went to the new site and read Grants blug 24

[RBW] Re: blug notes

One of the beauties of Riv is knowing there is a community of people who to a very large extent share values. I appreciate Grant not just for what he has said in this Blog post but what he says everyday through the Riv ecology! Steve Cole Arlington, VA On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at

[RBW] Re: BLUG Roadeo size?

It says 57 now On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 11:29:04 PM UTC-5, ted wrote: > > The Mar 2 BLUG entry on the new demo Roadeo at RBW WHQ says the frame is a > 55. > The head tube looks significantly longer than the one on Mark's 55 Roadeo > in the staff bikes section. > Am I cross eyed? Is

[RBW] Re: BLUG Roadeo size?

Shimano 11 speed does shift like a dreamand I love and use friction shifting too, but thems the facts. That Roadeo is awesome looking; it's a very striking color and perfect for a fast bike like the Roadeo. After I sell my Roadeo I might have to get the Legolas in that color. On

Re: [RBW] Re: Blug on long chainstays

*Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2015 9:18 PM *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Blug on long chainstays I had an '85 Trek 650. Stays for days. I'm scrounging for a photo right now, but I can't lay my hands on one. I do believe that with a wheelbase *that* long

Re: [RBW] Re: Blug on long chainstays

together an extra-long chain out of extra links from a second chain. *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Andrew Marchant-Shapiro *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2015 9:18 PM *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Blug on long

Re: [RBW] Re: Blug on long chainstays

: *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Blug on long chainstays I had an '85 Trek 650. Stays for days. I'm scrounging for a photo right now, but I can't lay my hands on one. I do believe that with a wheelbase *that* long, there may have been some slight compromise in handling. But nothing

[RBW] Re: Blug on long chainstays

I ride nice bikes all the way across this spectrum, so while sitting out a stormy day, I measured them. Stays first, rounded nearest: 46cm stable, smooth, fun down single-track - 49cm Schwinn Sierra -1987 43cm responsive, easy uphill/slow speed handling - 55cm Bstone MB-1 - 1990 46cm feels

[RBW] Re: Blug on long chainstays

I had an '85 Trek 850 (Hugh now has it) w/ sper long chain stays. It was (is I'm sure) a great fun bike. I also ride a Yuba Mundo, which has extremely long stays. It's a necessity as I carry two children on the back, but I'm always amazed how the bike rides. We got in a good 40 miles today

[RBW] Re: Blug on long chainstays

It would be interesting to ride two bikes that are identical except for maybe 8-10cm difference in chainstay length. My Devil has forward facing dropouts and I can change the CS length from about 43.5 to 45 and I can feel a difference. I prefer the way the bike rides at 45cm. My Trek has

RE: [RBW] Re: Blug on long chainstays

Of Andrew Marchant-Shapiro Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 9:18 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Blug on long chainstays I had an '85 Trek 650. Stays for days. I'm scrounging for a photo right now, but I can't lay my hands on one. I do believe that with a wheelbase

[RBW] Re: Blug on long chainstays

My wee 46cm Appaloosa custom has l chainstays, especially for its size, and goodness that bike can go anywhere over any terrain regardless of my skill. And comfortable as all get-out. Long time Blug readers will have already seen these, but just in case, photos can be found here:

Re: [RBW] Re: Blug on long chainstays

That Clementine in the photo on the blug is a really nice looking bike. All those curves and whatnot. And shiny black paint. Beaut. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

[RBW] Re: Blug on long chainstays

I've certainly followed Grant's progression to longer stays with much interest. My most recent bicycle purchase was a longtail cargo bike http://handlebarchronicles.blogspot.com/2015/04/the-bike-that-rides-like-car.html, and the utility of it aside, I really do love the way it feels to ride.

[RBW] Re: Blug on long chainstays

Makes me wanna pick up a cheviot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

[RBW] Re: Blug on long chainstays

Dear Jeremy, He's brought back the Klunker MTB geometry for his cruiser bikes! Mr. Petersen was a vocal advocate of shorter chainstays in the mid-1980's when Bridgestone popularized the NORBA mtb geometry. He brought out bikes with short-ish chainstays (42-43cm), steep seat (73-73.5deg) and

[RBW] Re: Blug on long chainstays

Dear Jeremy, RE: long chainstays. He's brought back the Klunker MTB geometry! Mr. Petersen was a vocal advocate of shorter chainstays in the mid-1980's when Bridgestone popularized the NORBA mtb geometry. He brought out bikes with short-ish chainstays (42-43cm), steep seat (73-73.5deg) and

RE: [RBW] Re: Blug on long chainstays

Yes, one does need to cobble together bits from a second chain for these 54-55cm chain stays . This is the case with the custom and with Erin's cheviot and with, I assume, the Clem's. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To

[RBW] Re: Blug on long chainstays

Just read the BLUG but haven't followed this thread, so forgive me if this has already been mentioned. Another advantage to longer chainstays is clearance with panniers. There is more freedom of choice in baggage because you're not fighting for space for your heels. In addition, more of the

[RBW] Re: Blug on long chainstays

I did my longest tour (West Coast to Lake Michigan coast - basically the Adventure Cycling Northern Tier - then the Lake Michigan paths down Wisconsin into Northern Illinois) on this Trek 728 http://cyclofiend.com/cc/2008/cc484-joelmatthews0508.html. Probably not the bike one would want a

[RBW] Re: Blug on long chainstays

they call them 30' yachts. Schooner is specific to the rigging - flip the masts it's a ketch. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Blug on long chainstays

I tend to favor shorter stays for climbing on singletrack. My weight stays over the wheel better and I don't spin out like I do with longer says. On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 6:17 PM, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro marchantshap...@gmail.com wrote: I had an '85 Trek 650. Stays for days. I'm scrounging

[RBW] Re: Blug on long chainstays

I had an '85 Trek 650. Stays for days. I'm scrounging for a photo right now, but I can't lay my hands on one. I do believe that with a wheelbase *that* long, there may have been some slight compromise in handling. But nothing significant. And it was a joy to ride with rear panniers

Re: [RBW] Re: Blug post

I think this was mentioned somewhere when I was preparing to buy my frame, couldn't find any mention of it on the present day hillborne page. Hasn't failed yet. I love my bike. -Kai Brooklyn NY On Monday, September 22, 2014 9:54:23 AM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: My Sam Hillborne's tig welded.

Re: [RBW] Re: Blug post

Possibly correct, but completely beside the point of this topic. The Blug post in question appears to state tubes which in other Rivs are joined with lugs will be Tig welded. While there may be an outlier somewhere, dropouts typically are not joined to the chainstay with lugs. I am aware of

Re: [RBW] Re: Blug post

Soma San Marcos has lugged dropouts on the rear. You can see the sockets in the 2nd and 3rd pictures on rivbike.com. On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 8:53 AM, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote: Possibly correct, but completely beside the point of this topic. The Blug post in question appears to

Re: [RBW] Re: Blug post

Yeah, Kai, I bit on your comment My Sam Hillborne's tig welded. If you had said I think the rear dropout on my Sam Hillborne might be tig welded I wouldn't have bit. It's kind of hard to tell from your phone-photo, but it looks like your MUSA-Sam has the same rear dropouts as my Hilsen, which

[RBW] Re: Blug post

My favorite rides are a couple of Bridgestones. Like many other non-Riv owners I read this group every day - enjoying the vibe and learning as I go along. If I keep the Bridgestones, sell the other bikes and save a few dollars, then a Clem might be the bike for me. If Grant wants to spread the

Re: [RBW] Re: Blug post

This thread seems to have started as a holy crap! Rivendell might introduce tig welding on their bikes!!. Nowhere did I see any statement to the effect that they may have already in the past. And I'm just saying that I thought I might have noticed a mention of it as a way to keep the cost down

Re: [RBW] Re: Blug post

I don't think you sullied anything. I just misunderstood your original post. I apologize for misunderstanding it. Tig welding is awesome. My (Waterford) Gunnar is tig welded at all the frame tubing joints and is awesome. Your (Waterford) Sam might feature tig welds at the dropouts and is

Re: [RBW] Re: Blug post

All hail nonconsumable electrodes!! For real. Tig welds can be done right, or not. I myself only make bad ones. Thanks Bill, I never thought your misunderstanding was wrong, I'm often ununderstandable, sometimes on purpose, sometimes not. Specifically, I thought Mr J's Possibly correct, but

Re: [RBW] Re: Blug post

On 09/25/2014 12:25 PM, Kainalu wrote: All hail nonconsumable electrodes!! For real. Tig welds can be done right, or not. I myself only make bad ones. Thanks Bill, I never thought your misunderstanding was wrong, I'm often ununderstandable, sometimes on purpose, sometimes not. Are you doing

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