Re: [RBW] Re: Crankset/BB question

2024-03-02 Thread Keith Weaver
I have a Riv Road Standard with VO cranks and a Campy Nuovo Record FD, it works great for me and I like using the vintage part. Cheers, Keith On Sat, Mar 2, 2024 at 1:23 AM Garth wrote: > Those VO cranks with the straight arms all suggest a 118mm BB for a road > double 43.5mm chainline. FD's

Re: [RBW] Re: Crankset/BB question

2024-03-02 Thread Richard Rose
I was thinking the very same.Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 2, 2024, at 12:16 AM, Josiah Anderson wrote:It's hard to say for sure from the picture, but it looks like your fd is at a bit of an angle, and rotating it to straight might allow a bit more crankarm clearance.Josiah AndersonMissoula MT Le

Re: [RBW] Re: Crankset/BB question

2024-03-02 Thread Garth
Those VO cranks with the straight arms all suggest a 118mm BB for a road double 43.5mm chainline. FD's with relatively flat/straight cages are made for such tight tolerances that come with straight arm doubles. Here's a Campy Nuovo Record for example. [image:

[RBW] Re: Crankset/BB question

2024-02-24 Thread Kris Burns
Adam I have the VO 50.4 bcd cranks on my Saluki and a 118mm bb was actually too short. I had to use a 122.5 and even that was pretty tight. -Kris On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 10:01:33 PM UTC-6 Bikie#4646 wrote: > Adam, > > I meant to add that prices on digital micrometers seem to have

[RBW] Re: Crankset/BB question

2024-02-17 Thread 'Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch
Adam, I meant to add that prices on digital micrometers seem to have gone down over time. I replaced my old "analog" PITA micrometer on Amazon for twenty-five bucks. I would not go for the cheapest though. I opted for one with an auto "OFF" setting so you won't burn the battery out when you

[RBW] Re: Crankset/BB question

2024-02-17 Thread 'Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch
Adam, Just saying . If you like the paint job on your bike, be mindful when applying muscle to the BB remover tool. You'll be using a heavy-ish adjustable wrench. So, adjust it so it's snug. It's pretty easy to have that tool come out and the wrench can chip the vulnerable BB shell paint

Re: [RBW] Re: Crankset/BB question

2024-02-17 Thread RichS
Adam, you've already gotten plenty of good advice but I'll add this video of Mark at Riv installing a BB. Good on you for doing this! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwjnZfNO1DE Best of luck, Rich in ATL On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 8:46:33 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote: > If the BB spindle

Re: [RBW] Re: Crankset/BB question

2024-02-16 Thread Joe Bernard
If the BB spindle you're testing out is too short yes, a chainring with hit the chainstay. If you slide it on and there's no resistance as the ring gets close..STOP. Not gonna work, pull the crank back and prepare to pull that BB and get a longer one in there. On Friday, February 16, 2024 at

Re: [RBW] Re: Crankset/BB question

2024-02-16 Thread Adam
Thanks for all of the tips. I appreciate the acknowledgement of the STAND. I do not have one and there's no chance of finding room for one in my apt. Someday that will change . . . I'm not sure what a crank bolt washer looks like? Maybe I'll know when I see it. I'm assuming it would be under

Re: [RBW] Re: Crankset/BB question

2024-02-16 Thread Jingy
Also, if you do end up removing the BB, the drive side is reverse-threaded, so lefty-tighty, righty-loosey. Jim in Mpls On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 4:40:51 PM UTC-6 Drurad (Sacramento) wrote: > I second the disclaimer to check for washer prior to using crank puller. > > -Andrew > > On

Re: [RBW] Re: Crankset/BB question

2024-02-16 Thread Andrew MacDonald
I second the disclaimer to check for washer prior to using crank puller. -Andrew On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 2:32 PM Shoji Takahashi wrote: > Also, check to make sure there's no crank bolt washer before you put on > the crank puller! > > good luck, > shoji > Arlington MA > > On Friday, February

[RBW] Re: Crankset/BB question

2024-02-16 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Also, check to make sure there's no crank bolt washer before you put on the crank puller! good luck, shoji Arlington MA On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 3:48:29 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote: > I enumerated a list of tools, omitting the most critical one. > > Learning any mechanical manuever is

[RBW] Re: Crankset/BB question

2024-02-16 Thread Bill Lindsay
I enumerated a list of tools, omitting the most critical one. Learning any mechanical manuever is a LOT easier with the bike held in a proper mechanic's work stand. Every single is a LOT harder doing it on the ground or with the bike upside down. The work stand is the barrier. There is

[RBW] Re: Crankset/BB question

2024-02-16 Thread aeroperf
Then, if you do need to replace the bottom bracket, you’ll need a tool like this to snug up the new one. https://www.amazon.com/Park-Tool-BBT-22-Shimano-Cartridge/dp/B001A0AIAG/?th=1=1 I took my Sam to the LBS to take the old one out. The guys in Taiwan (or at Rivendell) must have hydraulic

[RBW] Re: Crankset/BB question

2024-02-16 Thread Adam
Thanks all, Great. I have the tools, just ordered the park crankpuller from VO with the cranks. I'll give it a go and see what happens. I think I get the idea from the videos. I don't have the cranks in hand yet, but once I sort it out, I'll post back, probably with questions about FDs and

[RBW] Re: Crankset/BB question

2024-02-16 Thread Joe Bernard
Emphasizing one point Bill mentioned, slide the driveside crank on the spindle SLOWLY and stop before you think a ring may hit the frame. Ask me how I learned this!  Joe Bernard On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 10:52:24 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote: > Generally speaking, anybody who wants to

[RBW] Re: Crankset/BB question

2024-02-16 Thread JohnS
Hello Adam, I agree 100% with Bill and Steve's recommendations. A couple things to be aware of, make sure to put some grease on the puller before threading it onto the crank and to tighten with the adjustable wrench, it's possible to damage the crank arm treads otherwise. Second, the FD may

[RBW] Re: Crankset/BB question

2024-02-16 Thread Steve
Adam, good on you for planning to do the crank swap yourself (you will likely want a crank puller - https://www.parktool.com/en-us/product/universal-crank-puller-for-square-taper-and-splined-cranks-cwp-7 & here's a link to Park's how to video -

[RBW] Re: Crankset/BB question

2024-02-16 Thread Bill Lindsay
Generally speaking, anybody who wants to do new mechanical maneuvers, and has the will to purchase the right tools, by all means go for it. To swap out your crank set without swapping the BB, what you need are: -pedal wrench -whatever wrench you need for your crank bolts: Long 8mm allen, 14mm

[RBW] Re: Crankset & BB Question

2020-08-26 Thread spencer robinson
Sage advice Joe Bernard On Tuesday, August 25, 2020 at 9:02:54 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote: > You might want to let a bike shop dig into this unless you're committed to > buying two types of BB tools and learning all about it. I'm big on the > buying and learning, but it's not a small project

[RBW] Re: Crankset & BB Question

2020-08-25 Thread Joe Bernard
You might want to let a bike shop dig into this unless you're committed to buying two types of BB tools and learning all about it. I'm big on the buying and learning, but it's not a small project for a first-timer and you're not even sure where the problem is yet. Could be a headache! Joe "ok

[RBW] Re: Crankset & BB Question

2020-08-25 Thread Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA
On Tuesday, August 25, 2020 at 9:45:23 AM UTC-7 aeroperf wrote: > However, a failure mode for Hollowtech is the bottom bracket creaking, and > if you’re going to replace it, it is relatively easy. > If you’re going to take the old one off and replace it with another BB51 > (or SRAM equivalent),

[RBW] Re: Crankset & BB Question

2020-08-25 Thread aeroperf
What Benz said. It may be from somewhere else - the pedals, or even the seat. However, a failure mode for Hollowtech is the bottom bracket creaking, and if you’re going to replace it, it is relatively easy. If you’re going to take the old one off and replace it with another BB51 (or SRAM

[RBW] Re: Crankset & BB Question

2020-08-25 Thread Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)
Thanks Benz. It's tough to tell exactly where the pops and creaks are coming from but it seems to happen only during hard pedaling and kind of feels like it's coming from the left (non-drive side) crank arm which is attached with hex bolts. The whole crankset has always annoyed me, mostly

[RBW] Re: Crankset & BB Question

2020-08-25 Thread Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA
Justin, I will suggest investigating what's causing the creaking and popping. Quite often, what appears to be from the crank may not actually be from the crank. Especially with an Xtracycle Free Radical conversion, there are more opportunities for creaks and pops. Unfortunately, troubleshooting

[RBW] Re: Crankset & BB Question

2020-08-25 Thread Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)
Okay thanks for the info. I'm not equipped or experienced with bottom bracket replacement which is why I was hoping to salvage what's already there and not have to remove and replace it. But maybe this is an opportunity for me to figure it out. Will need to invest in some tools I assume. On

[RBW] Re: Crankset & BB Question

2020-08-25 Thread aeroperf
Justin— To answer your last question first, no, that spindle won’t fit. Any way you look at it you would have to replace the entire bottom bracket. The crank creaking and popping is more than likely due to the bottom bracket itself. If you want the cheaper solution, just remove the crankset,