Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[Peter Adler]

Unanticipated fast round trip from University/San Pablo to the Oakland 
Convention Center this afternoon - about 11 miles RT, no climbing. In 
addition to the again-hairy traffic (which is getting back up to pre-COVID 
levels), the cold and the humidity has brought a lot of yesterday's high 
atmospheric particulates down to street level. My lungs still hurt.

Peter [cough cough] Adler
Berkeley, CA

On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 11:47:52 PM UTC-7, Hetchins52 wrote:
>
> Today, Thursday, temps in Berkeley continued to be in the 60s. Sky not so 
> yellow/orange but dim and murky. 
> Bad part is that the Air Quality Index started out "Unhealthy" 
> (particulates -- PM2.5 -- at 150 to 195) in the early AM and by 5:00 this 
> evening had climbed into the "Very Unhealthy" range for PM2.5 of 215 to 
> 235. Took the dog for a short walk. Very few people about. Fairly quickly 
> felt that it was hard to walk but no coughing like yesterday AM (after we 
> had opened the windows Tuesday night for cool air). 
> Ash has continued to fall, as if snowing very lightly at times.
>
> David Lipsky
> Berkeley
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 2:41:19 PM UTC-7, Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>>
>> .
>>
>> *Those photos of Berkeley don’t even look real. *
>>
>> *What is it like to go outside? Can you feel the heat from the fires? Is 
>> it hard to breathe or can’t you discern a difference?*
>>
>> *Leah*
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Today, Thursday, temps in Berkeley continued to be in the 60s. Sky not so 
yellow/orange but dim and murky. 
Bad part is that the Air Quality Index started out "Unhealthy" 
(particulates -- PM2.5 -- at 150 to 195) in the early AM and by 5:00 this 
evening had climbed into the "Very Unhealthy" range for PM2.5 of 215 to 
235. Took the dog for a short walk. Very few people about. Fairly quickly 
felt that it was hard to walk but no coughing like yesterday AM (after we 
had opened the windows Tuesday night for cool air). 
Ash has continued to fall, as if snowing very lightly at times.

David Lipsky
Berkeley


On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 2:41:19 PM UTC-7, Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:
>
> .
>
> *Those photos of Berkeley don’t even look real. *
>
> *What is it like to go outside? Can you feel the heat from the fires? Is 
> it hard to breathe or can’t you discern a difference?*
>
> *Leah*
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[Peter Adler]

They don't look any realer when you're standing right in them. I fell 
asleep at about 4AM last night and woke up at about 9. It took a few 
minutes to figure out whether it was daytime; the light coming through the 
windowshaded east-facing in my bedroom weren't any brighter than they'd 
been when I went to sleep.

KQED-FM, the big local NPR affiliate in San Francisco, has been saying all 
day that the orange skies on the bayfront are not from the southern 
lightning complex fires (near Santa Cruz and just east of Silicon Valley) 
or the northern lightning complex fire (Napa, Sonoma and neighboring 
counties surrounding Lake Berryessa), the ones that have been producing the 
caustic air we've been breathing for the last few weeks. The smoke causing 
the filtered orange light is much higher in the atmosphere, from the fire 
in Southern Oregon; it's high up enough that the particles are filtering 
out blue light, and creating the orange hue. Which is *totally real*, and 
makes you think somebody transported you to Mars while you slept. 
Fortunately, the smoke making the sky orange don't appear to be adding to 
the breathable particulates at street level; the air today isn't any 
nastier to breathe than yesterday's not-orange air was.

Unless you're right near the fires, the heat is caused by convection 
currents generated by the fires; they get the smoke up into the atmosphere 
at a level that traps the radiated heat in, and the temps go up everywhere. 
The Bay Area is like a set of bowls, with hills all around one; whatever 
gets inside one bowl gets everywhere inside the bowl. Everyone along the 
bayshore is subjected to the same conditions, unless a strong ocean wind 
blows the gunk off the areas surrounding the mouth of the Bay: north side 
of San Francisco, Sausalito (Marin County), West Berkeley/Albany (East Bay).

I was out in Walnut Creek at a doctor's office yesterday, on Ygnacio Valley 
Road, the big high-speed drag immediately south of RBWHQ and the worst 
street I know of for bike riding, bad enough that I ride on the sidewalk 
(as signage permits you to do, recognizing that street traffic runs at 
60MPH and nobody in WC walks anyway). It was over 100 and the air was like 
breathing a scouring pad, but the sky was smog grey - not orange, which is 
today's new development.

It's a lot cooler today, but the troubles will persist until the rain 
starts, or until we get several days of big winds through the Golden Gate.

Don't really feel like riding today.

Peter 'enough, already" Adler
West Berkeley, CA

On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 2:41:19 PM UTC-7, Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:
>
> Those photos of Berkeley don’t even look real. 
>
> What is it like to go outside? Can you feel the heat from the fires? Is it 
> hard to breathe or can’t you discern a difference?
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[tuolumne bikes]

The Bear Fire is to the north and the Creek Fire is to the south. Neither 
is close enough to be a concern for our safety. They shut off our power 
around midnight on Monday. We have a generator so we can keep the well 
going and power most of the house, but it can't run the AC. The smoke is 
smelly with gray haze visible over the RV Park next door. Last night we had 
to decide between cooler air and cleaner air, and we opened the windows. 
The smoke usually gets worse overnight as the cool air settles, and we had 
a nasty night and morning. Power just came back on at 3:00 and AC is 
running with a new filter. Lungs feel exactly like LA smog from the 70s. I 
rode a dozen or so figure eights in the driveway just because I could. 

USFS has deemed that outdoors is closed. Ask me how I feel after another 
week.

Carl

On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 3:19:17 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> ...and it looks like 8:00 at night out there. 
>
> On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 3:16:32 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> 66° in Marin, I can't really feel the smoke in my throat but the smell is 
>> strong and I sound raspy. The last part I didn't realize 'til I sent a 
>> couple voice texts yesterday and discovered I sound like Burgess Meredith 
>> in Rocky!
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 3:04:25 PM UTC-7 ted wrote:
>>
>>> "Can you feel the heat from the fires? "
>>>
>>> Actually its relatively cool today, I think because the smoke is 
>>> reflecting the sun thereby neutralizing that big radiant heat lamp in the 
>>> sky.
>>> If you are close enough to feel the heat you should have already left.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 2:41:19 PM UTC-7, Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 Kim, the firefighters - yes, I can’t even imagine. My brother was a 
 Hotshot and you’d never believe the stories he has to tell. The working 
 conditions are just unreal. God be with them.

 Joe - Vegas is harsh but not so many natural disasters here. And 
 really, most of the year the weather is lovely for riding, though the 
 terrain is tough. If you want to give up the Golden State and come to the 
 Silver State I’ll tell you where all my top secret trails are. I got 
 spoiled when I (briefly) lived in California -  it’s hard to forego 
 California’s finery... I have a feeling you’ll weather these fires and 
 stay 
 put.

 Those photos of Berkeley don’t even look real. 

 What is it like to go outside? Can you feel the heat from the fires? Is 
 it hard to breathe or can’t you discern a difference?

 Leah

  

 Sent from my iPad

 On Sep 9, 2020, at 1:43 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

 "And it’s not just CA on fire, but now several states in the West. 
 It’s all a lot to take. How is everyone? Are you guys all safe out there? 
 How’s your breathing? What about your homes?

 Gosh, I’m just so sorry. Let us know how you’re doing.
 Leah"

 A year ago I marveled at the crazy climate Leah lives and rides in near 
 Vegas. Two days ago it was 113° in lovely Marin County, CA. Today at 
 1:30pm 
 the sky is dark and I have the lights on in my apartment. Vegas is looking 
 pretty good right now...

 Joe Bernard 
 On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 12:04:23 PM UTC-7 Flowerfang wrote:

> I feel that Leah. 
> It’s been heartbreaking.
> I hope this cooler weather will help-  those dear firefighters must be 
> so exhausted. 
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 11:34 AM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello All, I’ve been seeing the photos that Rivendell has been 
>> posting of the land during the fires and the best word to describe it 
>> was 
>> Will’s...which was “hellscape.” 
>>
>>
>>
>> And it’s not just CA on fire, but now several states in the West. 
>> It’s all a lot to take. How is everyone? Are you guys all safe out 
>> there? 
>> How’s your breathing? What about your homes? 
>>
>>
>>
>> Gosh, I’m just so sorry. Let us know how you’re doing.
>>
>> Leah
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[Joe Bernard]

66° in Marin, I can't really feel the smoke in my throat but the smell is 
strong and I sound raspy. The last part I didn't realize 'til I sent a 
couple voice texts yesterday and discovered I sound like Burgess Meredith 
in Rocky!

On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 3:04:25 PM UTC-7 ted wrote:

> "Can you feel the heat from the fires? "
>
> Actually its relatively cool today, I think because the smoke is 
> reflecting the sun thereby neutralizing that big radiant heat lamp in the 
> sky.
> If you are close enough to feel the heat you should have already left.
>
> On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 2:41:19 PM UTC-7, Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Kim, the firefighters - yes, I can’t even imagine. My brother was a 
>> Hotshot and you’d never believe the stories he has to tell. The working 
>> conditions are just unreal. God be with them.
>>
>> Joe - Vegas is harsh but not so many natural disasters here. And really, 
>> most of the year the weather is lovely for riding, though the terrain is 
>> tough. If you want to give up the Golden State and come to the Silver State 
>> I’ll tell you where all my top secret trails are. I got spoiled when I 
>> (briefly) lived in California -  it’s hard to forego California’s finery... 
>> I have a feeling you’ll weather these fires and stay put.
>>
>> Those photos of Berkeley don’t even look real. 
>>
>> What is it like to go outside? Can you feel the heat from the fires? Is 
>> it hard to breathe or can’t you discern a difference?
>>
>> Leah
>>
>>  
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Sep 9, 2020, at 1:43 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>> "And it’s not just CA on fire, but now several states in the West. It’s 
>> all a lot to take. How is everyone? Are you guys all safe out there? How’s 
>> your breathing? What about your homes?
>>
>> Gosh, I’m just so sorry. Let us know how you’re doing.
>> Leah"
>>
>> A year ago I marveled at the crazy climate Leah lives and rides in near 
>> Vegas. Two days ago it was 113° in lovely Marin County, CA. Today at 1:30pm 
>> the sky is dark and I have the lights on in my apartment. Vegas is looking 
>> pretty good right now...
>>
>> Joe Bernard 
>> On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 12:04:23 PM UTC-7 Flowerfang wrote:
>>
>>> I feel that Leah. 
>>> It’s been heartbreaking.
>>> I hope this cooler weather will help-  those dear firefighters must be 
>>> so exhausted. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 11:34 AM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hello All, I’ve been seeing the photos that Rivendell has been posting 
 of the land during the fires and the best word to describe it was 
 Will’s...which was “hellscape.” 



 And it’s not just CA on fire, but now several states in the West. It’s 
 all a lot to take. How is everyone? Are you guys all safe out there? How’s 
 your breathing? What about your homes? 



 Gosh, I’m just so sorry. Let us know how you’re doing.

 Leah



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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[ted]

"Can you feel the heat from the fires? "

Actually its relatively cool today, I think because the smoke is reflecting 
the sun thereby neutralizing that big radiant heat lamp in the sky.
If you are close enough to feel the heat you should have already left.

On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 2:41:19 PM UTC-7, Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:
>
> Kim, the firefighters - yes, I can’t even imagine. My brother was a 
> Hotshot and you’d never believe the stories he has to tell. The working 
> conditions are just unreal. God be with them.
>
> Joe - Vegas is harsh but not so many natural disasters here. And really, 
> most of the year the weather is lovely for riding, though the terrain is 
> tough. If you want to give up the Golden State and come to the Silver State 
> I’ll tell you where all my top secret trails are. I got spoiled when I 
> (briefly) lived in California -  it’s hard to forego California’s finery... 
> I have a feeling you’ll weather these fires and stay put.
>
> Those photos of Berkeley don’t even look real. 
>
> What is it like to go outside? Can you feel the heat from the fires? Is it 
> hard to breathe or can’t you discern a difference?
>
> Leah
>
>  
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Sep 9, 2020, at 1:43 PM, Joe Bernard > 
> wrote:
>
> "And it’s not just CA on fire, but now several states in the West. It’s 
> all a lot to take. How is everyone? Are you guys all safe out there? How’s 
> your breathing? What about your homes?
>
> Gosh, I’m just so sorry. Let us know how you’re doing.
> Leah"
>
> A year ago I marveled at the crazy climate Leah lives and rides in near 
> Vegas. Two days ago it was 113° in lovely Marin County, CA. Today at 1:30pm 
> the sky is dark and I have the lights on in my apartment. Vegas is looking 
> pretty good right now...
>
> Joe Bernard 
> On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 12:04:23 PM UTC-7 Flowerfang wrote:
>
>> I feel that Leah. 
>> It’s been heartbreaking.
>> I hope this cooler weather will help-  those dear firefighters must be so 
>> exhausted. 
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 11:34 AM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello All, I’ve been seeing the photos that Rivendell has been posting 
>>> of the land during the fires and the best word to describe it was 
>>> Will’s...which was “hellscape.” 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And it’s not just CA on fire, but now several states in the West. It’s 
>>> all a lot to take. How is everyone? Are you guys all safe out there? How’s 
>>> your breathing? What about your homes? 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gosh, I’m just so sorry. Let us know how you’re doing.
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[Jan O.]

San Francisco at 1 p.m today. The air quality is surprisingly ok and 
temperatures in the mid 60s.

[image: fire.jpg]


Jan

San Francisco, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[Leah Peterson]

Kim, the firefighters - yes, I can’t even imagine. My brother was a Hotshot and 
you’d never believe the stories he has to tell. The working conditions are just 
unreal. God be with them.

Joe - Vegas is harsh but not so many natural disasters here. And really, most 
of the year the weather is lovely for riding, though the terrain is tough. If 
you want to give up the Golden State and come to the Silver State I’ll tell you 
where all my top secret trails are. I got spoiled when I (briefly) lived in 
California -  it’s hard to forego California’s finery... I have a feeling 
you’ll weather these fires and stay put.

Those photos of Berkeley don’t even look real. 

What is it like to go outside? Can you feel the heat from the fires? Is it hard 
to breathe or can’t you discern a difference?

Leah

 

Sent from my iPad

>> On Sep 9, 2020, at 1:43 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> "And it’s not just CA on fire, but now several states in the West. It’s all 
> a lot to take. How is everyone? Are you guys all safe out there? How’s your 
> breathing? What about your homes?
> 
> Gosh, I’m just so sorry. Let us know how you’re doing.
> Leah"
> 
> A year ago I marveled at the crazy climate Leah lives and rides in near 
> Vegas. Two days ago it was 113° in lovely Marin County, CA. Today at 1:30pm 
> the sky is dark and I have the lights on in my apartment. Vegas is looking 
> pretty good right now...
> 
> Joe Bernard 
>> On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 12:04:23 PM UTC-7 Flowerfang wrote:
>> I feel that Leah. 
>> It’s been heartbreaking.
>> I hope this cooler weather will help-  those dear firefighters must be so 
>> exhausted. 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 11:34 AM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Hello All, I’ve been seeing the photos that Rivendell has been posting of 
>>> the land during the fires and the best word to describe it was 
>>> Will’s...which was “hellscape.” 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> And it’s not just CA on fire, but now several states in the West. It’s all 
>>> a lot to take. How is everyone? Are you guys all safe out there? How’s your 
>>> breathing? What about your homes? 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gosh, I’m just so sorry. Let us know how you’re doing.
>>> 
>>> Leah
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[Joe Bernard]

"And it’s not just CA on fire, but now several states in the West. It’s all 
a lot to take. How is everyone? Are you guys all safe out there? How’s your 
breathing? What about your homes?

Gosh, I’m just so sorry. Let us know how you’re doing.
Leah"

A year ago I marveled at the crazy climate Leah lives and rides in near 
Vegas. Two days ago it was 113° in lovely Marin County, CA. Today at 1:30pm 
the sky is dark and I have the lights on in my apartment. Vegas is looking 
pretty good right now...

Joe Bernard 
On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 12:04:23 PM UTC-7 Flowerfang wrote:

> I feel that Leah. 
> It’s been heartbreaking.
> I hope this cooler weather will help-  those dear firefighters must be so 
> exhausted. 
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 11:34 AM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello All, I’ve been seeing the photos that Rivendell has been posting of 
>> the land during the fires and the best word to describe it was 
>> Will’s...which was “hellscape.” 
>>
>>
>>
>> And it’s not just CA on fire, but now several states in the West. It’s 
>> all a lot to take. How is everyone? Are you guys all safe out there? How’s 
>> your breathing? What about your homes? 
>>
>>
>>
>> Gosh, I’m just so sorry. Let us know how you’re doing.
>>
>> Leah
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[ted]

I hope your daughter went to south Ashland. Almeda Drive fire burning up 
the 5 from the north side of Ashland, towards Medford.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[Mike Godwin]

Matthew Williams photos of Berkeley looks like here in San Luis Obispo all 
day so far. No observable sun disk. Closest fire is Dolan fire, mid Big Sur 
coastline. Fire has gone over the ridgeline and headed for Fort Hunter 
Liggett. Ash falling past two days. Very disheartening. 

Mike Godwin, stay safe folks  SLO CA

On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 12:05:59 PM UTC-7, jbu...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Beyond the pandemic, failure politics, economic downturn, schools 
> starting up virtually, devastating fires, and ongoing brutality 
> against black and brown people -- now we have environmental 
> devastation. I'm having an incredibly hard time seeing light at the 
> end of this tunnel. 
>
> We cannot simply just ride the bikes to escape any longer; all of the 
> best places are now under mandatory closure -- or have already burned 
> over. The evacuation maps look like cue sheets for all my favorite 
> places in the west. 
>
> We must begin making amends now, before a whole world is lost to 
> climate disaster. 
>
> =- Joe Bunik 
> Walnut Creek, CA 
>
> On 9/9/20, Matthew Williams > 
> wrote: 
> > Thank you, Leah. 
> > 
> > Here's what things looked like in Berkeley, around 8:30 this morning: 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sep 9, 2020, at 11:34 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> > > wrote: 
> > 
> >> Hello All, I’ve been seeing the photos that Rivendell has been posting 
> of 
> >> the land during the fires and the best word to describe it was 
> >> Will’s...which was “hellscape.” 
> >> 
> >> And it’s not just CA on fire, but now several states in the West. It’s 
> all 
> >> a lot to take. How is everyone? Are you guys all safe out there? How’s 
> >> your breathing? What about your homes? 
> >> 
> >> Gosh, I’m just so sorry. Let us know how you’re doing. 
> >> Leah 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[ted]

And keep in mind sunrise was at quarter to 7 this morning.
Twenty miles down the IHT from RBW WHQ at 12:30 it is still dim as a 
typical dawn but with a very odd yellow color cast.
At least the AQI at ground level is only mid moderate.

On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 11:54:28 AM UTC-7, Matthew Williams 
wrote:
>
> Thank you, Leah.
>
> Here's what things looked like in Berkeley, around 8:30 this morning:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 9, 2020, at 11:34 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  > wrote:
>
> Hello All, I’ve been seeing the photos that Rivendell has been posting of 
> the land during the fires and the best word to describe it was 
> Will’s...which was “hellscape.” 
>
> And it’s not just CA on fire, but now several states in the West. It’s all 
> a lot to take. How is everyone? Are you guys all safe out there? How’s your 
> breathing? What about your homes? 
>
> Gosh, I’m just so sorry. Let us know how you’re doing.
> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[Joe Bunik]

Beyond the pandemic, failure politics, economic downturn, schools
starting up virtually, devastating fires, and ongoing brutality
against black and brown people -- now we have environmental
devastation. I'm having an incredibly hard time seeing light at the
end of this tunnel.

We cannot simply just ride the bikes to escape any longer; all of the
best places are now under mandatory closure -- or have already burned
over. The evacuation maps look like cue sheets for all my favorite
places in the west.

We must begin making amends now, before a whole world is lost to
climate disaster.

=- Joe Bunik
Walnut Creek, CA

On 9/9/20, Matthew Williams  wrote:
> Thank you, Leah.
>
> Here's what things looked like in Berkeley, around 8:30 this morning:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 9, 2020, at 11:34 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
>  wrote:
>
>> Hello All, I’ve been seeing the photos that Rivendell has been posting of
>> the land during the fires and the best word to describe it was
>> Will’s...which was “hellscape.”
>>
>> And it’s not just CA on fire, but now several states in the West. It’s all
>> a lot to take. How is everyone? Are you guys all safe out there? How’s
>> your breathing? What about your homes?
>>
>> Gosh, I’m just so sorry. Let us know how you’re doing.
>> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[kim young]

I feel that Leah. 
It’s been heartbreaking.
I hope this cooler weather will help-  those dear firefighters must be so
exhausted.


On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 11:34 AM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello All, I’ve been seeing the photos that Rivendell has been posting of
> the land during the fires and the best word to describe it was
> Will’s...which was “hellscape.”
>
>
>
> And it’s not just CA on fire, but now several states in the West. It’s all
> a lot to take. How is everyone? Are you guys all safe out there? How’s your
> breathing? What about your homes?
>
>
>
> Gosh, I’m just so sorry. Let us know how you’re doing.
>
> Leah
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Hello All, I’ve been seeing the photos that Rivendell has been posting of the 
land during the fires and the best word to describe it was Will’s...which was 
“hellscape.” 

And it’s not just CA on fire, but now several states in the West. It’s all a 
lot to take. How is everyone? Are you guys all safe out there? How’s your 
breathing? What about your homes? 

Gosh, I’m just so sorry. Let us know how you’re doing.
Leah

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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[George Schick]

While I sympathize with those suffering from wildfires in NoCal, don't 
forget about states like Nevada, Utah, and particularly Colorado where 
widespread "extreme" drought conditions (according to the U.S. Drought 
Monitor) have led to the burning of many acres of forest where the pine 
beetle infestation has already killed many trees.  My son lives in Colo. 
Springs and he sees these fires in nearby mountains on a daily basis. 
 Those on this list who live in that state may want to check in to give 
their witness to these catastrophic fires.


On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 10:42:02 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> We’ll gladly accept your rain.
>
> Patrick Moore
> iPhone
>
> On Aug 27, 2020, at 9:29 AM, Cyclofiend Jim  > wrote:
>
> 
> Thank you Patrick and others. This has been a tough week. Air Quality has 
> mostly been good in our neck of the woods, but drops in the evening as the 
> wind shifts here north of SF and the smoke starts to lay into our area. 
> We've seen >200 a few times via Purple Air, and there's not much to do but 
> hang inside and keep everything closed. I've had a sore throat all week. 
>
> A friend texted me images from his place near the LNU Complex fire. He had 
> been lost everything but the stuff he had in his truck. 
>
> I used to really like late summer and early fall, but now, it's a definite 
> time of stress.
>
> Be safe everyone.
>
> - Jim
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[Patrick Moore]

I've responded with some asperity -- "roughness" -- to a couple of posts
raised by others querying why this lists gets so exercised about what might
be considered minor matters when there are much weightier matters being
debated in the electronic *agora.*

While I don't apologize for my answers, I do think it is right to say this:

Injustice, racial or otherwise, is a far, far more serious matter even than
smoke from unprecedented wildfires.

What the white settlers of North America did over 300 years to captured
African blacks and their descendants is in the aggregate at least as bad as
what was done to the Indians of the Americas (90% kill off) and to the Jews
of the Holocaust. There has always been racism -- and other prejudices --
throughout history, but that of WASP Americans to African Americans was
particularly horrible by its fear and it's malice. I am just old enough to
remember when visiting my grandmother in early 1960s Georgia "colored only"
drinking fountains and signs advertising Ku Klux Klan rallies on Stone
Mountain.

I was fortunate to grow up from 1968 to 1974, 13 to 19, in Kenya as child
of a pure WASP father -- so white that he made any white man on this list
look like a Sicilian, no offense to Sicilians, who are as God made them;
"white" as such is* not* a criterion of excellence. He grew up ins the Deep
South during Jim Crow and was smart enough to leave after High School; he
married a Filipina in 1954. No, my mother wasn't a maid; she came over on a
Fulbright Scholarship; the University of the Philippines was grooming her
to be Dean of the School of Library Sciences, and the Librarian of the
Library of Congress said to her after hearing a speech of hers, "Look me up
if you are ever in the US and need a job."

Ideological evils and ideological reactions swing back and forth
continuously as they have throughout history; the oppression of one people
by another people is millennia old, whether the peoples differ by race or
religion or nationality or economic class or what have you. The material
domination of western Europeans over non-European peoples is a mere blip in
the timeline of history and will very soon pass; the first Englishmen to
travel to Mughal India were fascinated rather than contemptuous of native
culture and adopted it; the early nabobs got rich by imitating the locals,
not suppressing them. It was only the pseudo-Darwinist racialist ideologies
of the Victorian era that generated British contempt for the *babu.* Cetshwayo
didn't ask permission of the other tribes he disenfranchised of their
ancestral homelands; the Han Chinese oppressed the Tibetans and now turn
their attention to the Uyghurs; the Leninists oppressed the peasants who
managed to scrape enough together to buy a couple of cows; the Nationalists
in Spain oppressed the Catholic clergy; the Falange oppressed anyone with
Socialist relatives.

Point: Nothing is new, and nothing you or I do will have anything more than
a transitory effect, except one thing: reform yourself. Gandhi helped drive
the Raj from India because of his interior greatness (Mahatma = great soul)
while the Jacobins turned *liberte egalite fraternite* into a bloodbath,
and the Leninists "reformed" corrupt Tsarist Russia by establishing an even
more brutal tyranny that only petered out from sordid internal
self-contradiction, cynicism, and psychological exhaustion after 70 years.

St. John of the Cross said in response to someone who prodded him about
reforming society*, speaking of those who were not interiorly reformed:
"Sometimes they achieve a little more than nothing, sometimes they achieve
nothing, sometimes they achieve less than nothing." *Nemo dat quod non
habet.* No one gives what he doesn't have. If we ourselves are not
internally reformed, why should we expect to have any effect on the world
around us?

* This reminds me of the response of Sri Ramakrishna to someone who told
him that he had no time for spiritual discipline because he needed to
reform the world:
"Do you think that the world is such a small thing that you can reform it?"



On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 12:09 PM Michael Baquerizo 
wrote:

> OK.
>
> On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 1:56:49 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Can I post my favorite biscuit recipe or do I have to undergo ideological
>> cleansing first? This sort of thing sounds very much like the obsessive,
>> guilt-ridden self-scrutiny -- far more in-depth than any Jesuit-mandated
>> examination of conscience! -- that used to afflict bourgeoise hangers-on to
>> the Soviet Leninists.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 10:24 AM Michael Baquerizo 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> since i don't mind the consequences, i'm sensing a double standard here.
>>> posts from jan re: BLM have nothing to do with this group, but this post
>>> about air quality in the bay area does.
>>>
>>> don't get me wrong, i see nothing wrong with either, but you can't use
>>> the swift hand of moderation on one claiming it has no place but just let
>>> this 

Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[Garth]

  Please everyone, just stick to the topic and let it stand .  If you feel 
like throwing a dart , just drop it as it's not gonna do any good. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Air quality is on topic, effecting rides, as is concern for those effected 
by events. BLM is political and while all people of good will agree that 
Black lives matter, BLM is entirely different.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 10:24:32 AM UTC-6, Michael Baquerizo wrote:
>
> since i don't mind the consequences, i'm sensing a double standard here. 
> posts from jan re: BLM have nothing to do with this group, but this post 
> about air quality in the bay area does. 
>
> don't get me wrong, i see nothing wrong with either, but you can't use the 
> swift hand of moderation on one claiming it has no place but just let this 
> fly free. or you can, cause this is your google group, but a double 
> standard is a double standard. there isn't even a mention of rivendell 
> bikes here. 
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 9:36:25 PM UTC-4 Bill Gibson wrote:
>
>> All week the smoke from California has made the sun copper and the sky 
>> pastel orange all day. Sending hope and rain your way. From Arizona.
>> Bill Gibson
>> Tempe, Arizona, USA
>> My Photographs  : 
>> https://billbgibson.myportfolio.com/ and on Behance: 
>> https://www.behance.net/BillGibson 
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 1:14 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> I cut short a ride yesterday because the air felt smokey and affected my 
>>> sinuses and eyes, even tho' the official particle report was "moderate". 
>>> The air had been smokey for a couple of days with a "warning" in force 
>>> until mid-day yesterday. Today was fine.
>>>
>>> Fire near Santa Fe, and smoke from Phoenix; dammit, Phoenix, keep your 
>>> smoke to yourselves.
>>>
>>> The local "news" reported a local "be ready to evacuate" order, though 
>>> intended only "in general." We're certainly dry, and I live next door to 
>>> the bosque, which they are patrolling by helicopter, but no fire seems 
>>> imminent, thank God. 
>>>
>>> Again, good luck to those in California Warming.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 11:42 AM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
 The air is just miserable here in Novato with an AQI of 155. Yesterday 
 we were getting blowing smoke that made it seem like something was on fire 
 just down the street, but it was the wind from Point Reyes.

 I can't emphasize enough that you guys can't be out in this. I've seen 
 several reports around the onlines of people trying to ride or run and 
 this 
 is just not a good plan, we all need to be inside with windows closed as 
 much as possible. Listen to your pal Joe!

>>> ---
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>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[Michael Baquerizo]

OK. 

On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 1:56:49 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Can I post my favorite biscuit recipe or do I have to undergo ideological 
> cleansing first? This sort of thing sounds very much like the obsessive, 
> guilt-ridden self-scrutiny -- far more in-depth than any Jesuit-mandated 
> examination of conscience! -- that used to afflict bourgeoise hangers-on to 
> the Soviet Leninists.
>
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 10:24 AM Michael Baquerizo  
> wrote:
>
>> since i don't mind the consequences, i'm sensing a double standard here. 
>> posts from jan re: BLM have nothing to do with this group, but this post 
>> about air quality in the bay area does. 
>>
>> don't get me wrong, i see nothing wrong with either, but you can't use 
>> the swift hand of moderation on one claiming it has no place but just let 
>> this fly free. or you can, cause this is your google group, but a double 
>> standard is a double standard. there isn't even a mention of rivendell 
>> bikes here. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 9:36:25 PM UTC-4 Bill Gibson wrote:
>>
>>> All week the smoke from California has made the sun copper and the sky 
>>> pastel orange all day. Sending hope and rain your way. From Arizona.
>>> Bill Gibson
>>> Tempe, Arizona, USA
>>> My Photographs  : 
>>> https://billbgibson.myportfolio.com/ and on Behance: 
>>> https://www.behance.net/BillGibson 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 1:14 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>>
 I cut short a ride yesterday because the air felt smokey and affected 
 my sinuses and eyes, even tho' the official particle report was 
 "moderate". 
 The air had been smokey for a couple of days with a "warning" in force 
 until mid-day yesterday. Today was fine.

 Fire near Santa Fe, and smoke from Phoenix; dammit, Phoenix, keep your 
 smoke to yourselves.

 The local "news" reported a local "be ready to evacuate" order, though 
 intended only "in general." We're certainly dry, and I live next door to 
 the bosque, which they are patrolling by helicopter, but no fire seems 
 imminent, thank God. 

 Again, good luck to those in California Warming.

 On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 11:42 AM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> The air is just miserable here in Novato with an AQI of 155. Yesterday 
> we were getting blowing smoke that made it seem like something was on 
> fire 
> just down the street, but it was the wind from Point Reyes.
>
> I can't emphasize enough that you guys can't be out in this. I've seen 
> several reports around the onlines of people trying to ride or run and 
> this 
> is just not a good plan, we all need to be inside with windows closed as 
> much as possible. Listen to your pal Joe!
>
 ---
 Patrick Moore
 Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum

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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[Patrick Moore]

Can I post my favorite biscuit recipe or do I have to undergo ideological
cleansing first? This sort of thing sounds very much like the obsessive,
guilt-ridden self-scrutiny -- far more in-depth than any Jesuit-mandated
examination of conscience! -- that used to afflict bourgeoise hangers-on to
the Soviet Leninists.

On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 10:24 AM Michael Baquerizo 
wrote:

> since i don't mind the consequences, i'm sensing a double standard here.
> posts from jan re: BLM have nothing to do with this group, but this post
> about air quality in the bay area does.
>
> don't get me wrong, i see nothing wrong with either, but you can't use the
> swift hand of moderation on one claiming it has no place but just let this
> fly free. or you can, cause this is your google group, but a double
> standard is a double standard. there isn't even a mention of rivendell
> bikes here.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 9:36:25 PM UTC-4 Bill Gibson wrote:
>
>> All week the smoke from California has made the sun copper and the sky
>> pastel orange all day. Sending hope and rain your way. From Arizona.
>> Bill Gibson
>> Tempe, Arizona, USA
>> My Photographs  :
>> https://billbgibson.myportfolio.com/ and on Behance:
>> https://www.behance.net/BillGibson 
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 1:14 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> I cut short a ride yesterday because the air felt smokey and affected my
>>> sinuses and eyes, even tho' the official particle report was "moderate".
>>> The air had been smokey for a couple of days with a "warning" in force
>>> until mid-day yesterday. Today was fine.
>>>
>>> Fire near Santa Fe, and smoke from Phoenix; dammit, Phoenix, keep your
>>> smoke to yourselves.
>>>
>>> The local "news" reported a local "be ready to evacuate" order, though
>>> intended only "in general." We're certainly dry, and I live next door to
>>> the bosque, which they are patrolling by helicopter, but no fire seems
>>> imminent, thank God.
>>>
>>> Again, good luck to those in California Warming.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 11:42 AM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
 The air is just miserable here in Novato with an AQI of 155. Yesterday
 we were getting blowing smoke that made it seem like something was on fire
 just down the street, but it was the wind from Point Reyes.

 I can't emphasize enough that you guys can't be out in this. I've seen
 several reports around the onlines of people trying to ride or run and this
 is just not a good plan, we all need to be inside with windows closed as
 much as possible. Listen to your pal Joe!

>>> ---
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>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[Michael Baquerizo]

since i don't mind the consequences, i'm sensing a double standard here. 
posts from jan re: BLM have nothing to do with this group, but this post 
about air quality in the bay area does. 

don't get me wrong, i see nothing wrong with either, but you can't use the 
swift hand of moderation on one claiming it has no place but just let this 
fly free. or you can, cause this is your google group, but a double 
standard is a double standard. there isn't even a mention of rivendell 
bikes here. 



On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 9:36:25 PM UTC-4 Bill Gibson wrote:

> All week the smoke from California has made the sun copper and the sky 
> pastel orange all day. Sending hope and rain your way. From Arizona.
> Bill Gibson
> Tempe, Arizona, USA
> My Photographs  : 
> https://billbgibson.myportfolio.com/ and on Behance: 
> https://www.behance.net/BillGibson 
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 1:14 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> I cut short a ride yesterday because the air felt smokey and affected my 
>> sinuses and eyes, even tho' the official particle report was "moderate". 
>> The air had been smokey for a couple of days with a "warning" in force 
>> until mid-day yesterday. Today was fine.
>>
>> Fire near Santa Fe, and smoke from Phoenix; dammit, Phoenix, keep your 
>> smoke to yourselves.
>>
>> The local "news" reported a local "be ready to evacuate" order, though 
>> intended only "in general." We're certainly dry, and I live next door to 
>> the bosque, which they are patrolling by helicopter, but no fire seems 
>> imminent, thank God. 
>>
>> Again, good luck to those in California Warming.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 11:42 AM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>>> The air is just miserable here in Novato with an AQI of 155. Yesterday 
>>> we were getting blowing smoke that made it seem like something was on fire 
>>> just down the street, but it was the wind from Point Reyes.
>>>
>>> I can't emphasize enough that you guys can't be out in this. I've seen 
>>> several reports around the onlines of people trying to ride or run and this 
>>> is just not a good plan, we all need to be inside with windows closed as 
>>> much as possible. Listen to your pal Joe!
>>>
>> ---
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>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[Patrick Moore]

We’ll gladly accept your rain.

Patrick Moore
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> On Aug 27, 2020, at 9:29 AM, Cyclofiend Jim  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thank you Patrick and others. This has been a tough week. Air Quality has 
> mostly been good in our neck of the woods, but drops in the evening as the 
> wind shifts here north of SF and the smoke starts to lay into our area. We've 
> seen >200 a few times via Purple Air, and there's not much to do but hang 
> inside and keep everything closed. I've had a sore throat all week. 
> 
> A friend texted me images from his place near the LNU Complex fire. He had 
> been lost everything but the stuff he had in his truck. 
> 
> I used to really like late summer and early fall, but now, it's a definite 
> time of stress.
> 
> Be safe everyone.
> 
> - Jim
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[RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Thank you Patrick and others. This has been a tough week. Air Quality has 
mostly been good in our neck of the woods, but drops in the evening as the 
wind shifts here north of SF and the smoke starts to lay into our area. 
We've seen >200 a few times via Purple Air, and there's not much to do but 
hang inside and keep everything closed. I've had a sore throat all week. 

A friend texted me images from his place near the LNU Complex fire. He had 
been lost everything but the stuff he had in his truck. 

I used to really like late summer and early fall, but now, it's a definite 
time of stress.

Be safe everyone.

- Jim


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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[MoVelo]

Greetings to those who have had to suffer thru the smokey haze of these 
wildfires. I am sending my rain dance wishes to you all. In the meantime 
wear your masks.

On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 8:36:25 PM UTC-5 Bill Gibson wrote:

> All week the smoke from California has made the sun copper and the sky 
> pastel orange all day. Sending hope and rain your way. From Arizona.
> Bill Gibson
> Tempe, Arizona, USA
> My Photographs  : 
> https://billbgibson.myportfolio.com/ and on Behance: 
> https://www.behance.net/BillGibson 
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 1:14 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> I cut short a ride yesterday because the air felt smokey and affected my 
>> sinuses and eyes, even tho' the official particle report was "moderate". 
>> The air had been smokey for a couple of days with a "warning" in force 
>> until mid-day yesterday. Today was fine.
>>
>> Fire near Santa Fe, and smoke from Phoenix; dammit, Phoenix, keep your 
>> smoke to yourselves.
>>
>> The local "news" reported a local "be ready to evacuate" order, though 
>> intended only "in general." We're certainly dry, and I live next door to 
>> the bosque, which they are patrolling by helicopter, but no fire seems 
>> imminent, thank God. 
>>
>> Again, good luck to those in California Warming.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 11:42 AM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>>> The air is just miserable here in Novato with an AQI of 155. Yesterday 
>>> we were getting blowing smoke that made it seem like something was on fire 
>>> just down the street, but it was the wind from Point Reyes.
>>>
>>> I can't emphasize enough that you guys can't be out in this. I've seen 
>>> several reports around the onlines of people trying to ride or run and this 
>>> is just not a good plan, we all need to be inside with windows closed as 
>>> much as possible. Listen to your pal Joe!
>>>
>> ---
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>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[Bill Gibson]

All week the smoke from California has made the sun copper and the sky
pastel orange all day. Sending hope and rain your way. From Arizona.
Bill Gibson
Tempe, Arizona, USA
My Photographs  :
https://billbgibson.myportfolio.com/ and on Behance:
https://www.behance.net/BillGibson 


On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 1:14 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I cut short a ride yesterday because the air felt smokey and affected my
> sinuses and eyes, even tho' the official particle report was "moderate".
> The air had been smokey for a couple of days with a "warning" in force
> until mid-day yesterday. Today was fine.
>
> Fire near Santa Fe, and smoke from Phoenix; dammit, Phoenix, keep your
> smoke to yourselves.
>
> The local "news" reported a local "be ready to evacuate" order, though
> intended only "in general." We're certainly dry, and I live next door to
> the bosque, which they are patrolling by helicopter, but no fire seems
> imminent, thank God.
>
> Again, good luck to those in California Warming.
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 11:42 AM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> The air is just miserable here in Novato with an AQI of 155. Yesterday we
>> were getting blowing smoke that made it seem like something was on fire
>> just down the street, but it was the wind from Point Reyes.
>>
>> I can't emphasize enough that you guys can't be out in this. I've seen
>> several reports around the onlines of people trying to ride or run and this
>> is just not a good plan, we all need to be inside with windows closed as
>> much as possible. Listen to your pal Joe!
>>
> ---
> Patrick Moore
> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[Patrick Moore]

I cut short a ride yesterday because the air felt smokey and affected my
sinuses and eyes, even tho' the official particle report was "moderate".
The air had been smokey for a couple of days with a "warning" in force
until mid-day yesterday. Today was fine.

Fire near Santa Fe, and smoke from Phoenix; dammit, Phoenix, keep your
smoke to yourselves.

The local "news" reported a local "be ready to evacuate" order, though
intended only "in general." We're certainly dry, and I live next door to
the bosque, which they are patrolling by helicopter, but no fire seems
imminent, thank God.

Again, good luck to those in California Warming.

On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 11:42 AM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> The air is just miserable here in Novato with an AQI of 155. Yesterday we
> were getting blowing smoke that made it seem like something was on fire
> just down the street, but it was the wind from Point Reyes.
>
> I can't emphasize enough that you guys can't be out in this. I've seen
> several reports around the onlines of people trying to ride or run and this
> is just not a good plan, we all need to be inside with windows closed as
> much as possible. Listen to your pal Joe!
>
---
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[RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[Joe Bernard]

The air is just miserable here in Novato with an AQI of 155. Yesterday we 
were getting blowing smoke that made it seem like something was on fire 
just down the street, but it was the wind from Point Reyes.

I can't emphasize enough that you guys can't be out in this. I've seen 
several reports around the onlines of people trying to ride or run and this 
is just not a good plan, we all need to be inside with windows closed as 
much as possible. Listen to your pal Joe!

On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 5:06:37 AM UTC-7 SurlyProf wrote:

> Firefighters have been getting a break in the weather and things seem to 
> be improving.We just received notice that the evacuation zone was 
> reduced and is moving away from us.  Nice to see some green show up on that 
> map.  Until today's notice we were about a mile and a half from Cal Fire's 
> evacuation zone for the Del Puerto (LCU Complex?) fires that have been 
> burning in the east and south bay areas (over 350,000 acres!).  Our bags 
> have been packed and by the front door all weekend.  It has been stressful 
> since this is the closest we've ever come to being evacuated for 
> wildfires.  I really feel for those who have actually had to leave their 
> homes.  As Ash showed, the air's been awful for about a week or more now!  
> Our first day of classes were canceled even though we are teaching on 
> Zoom.  The air was too unhealthy and too many people have been evacuated.  
> A colleague has been teaching her class from her car in a Whole Foods 
> parking lot just for the WiFi.  Last night the moon was less orange and we 
> could see stars in the sky again.  Hopefully, that bodes well for all-day 
> Zoom teaching today.  Between teaching on Zoom and the smoke, our throats 
> have been raw by the end of the day.
>
> Got out for a ride on Friday.  Took the COVID mask off for a while because 
> no one was around.  I ended up putting it back on because of the smoke made 
> my lungs burn.  Guess the mask wearing is paying off in multiple ways the 
> past week or so.  
>
> Our best wishes go out to those who have had to evacuate.  
>
> John
> Niles, CA (southeast of Global Warming, CA)
>
>
>
> On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 9:05:45 AM UTC-7 Ash wrote:
>
>>
>> The smoke situation in South Bay Area keeps changing between bad and very 
>> bad.
>>
>> These pictures are from a trail I frequent.  Before the fire vs 
>> yesterday.  
>>
>> My heart goes out to folks with respiratory issues and those who live 
>> near the mountains.  It is a very very scary situation.   
>> [image: IMG_3913.JPG]
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[SurlyProf]

We just received notice that the evacuation zone was reduced and is moving 
away from us.  Nice to see some green show up on that map.  Until today's 
notice we were about a mile and a half from Cal Fire's evacuation zone for 
the Del Puerto (LCU Complex?) fires that have been burning in the east and 
south bay areas (over 350,000 acres!).  Our bags have been packed and by 
the front door all weekend.  It has been stressful since this is the 
closest we've ever come to being evacuated for wildfires.  I really feel 
for those who have actually had to leave their homes.  The air's been awful 
but last night the moon was less orange and we could see stars in the sky 
again.  Hopefully, that bodes well for all-day Zoom teaching today.  
Between Zoom and the smoke, our throats have been raw by the end of the day.

Got out for a ride on Friday.  Took the COVID mask off for a while because 
no one was around.  I ended up putting it back on because of the smoke made 
my lungs burn.  Guess the mask wearing is paying off in multiple ways the 
past week or so.

Our best wishes go out to those who have had to evacuate.  

John
Niles, CA (southeast of Global Warming, CA)



On Saturday, August 22, 2020 at 1:56:40 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Yes, CA Friends, you’re on my mind every day. Our air is hazy all the way 
> in Vegas, so I can’t imagine what it’s like for our Californian friends. 
> Are you out there riding in the smoke and ash-filled air? Staying in? 
> Anyone having to evacuate?
>
> 2020...the hits just keep coming. 
>
> I’m so sorry, and I hope you’re safe. ❤️
>
> On Saturday, August 22, 2020 at 11:48:17 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Wow. Again, best wishes and a prayer.
>>
>> I laughed at your signature.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 6:55 PM Philip Williamson  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Patrick. As my friend at Tilted Shed Ciderworks said on Monday, 
>>> “Here we go again.”
>>> Looks like the roads I rode last weekend are now either evacuated or 
>>> burned out. Dozens of acquaintances are evacuated, and the smoke and heat 
>>> are oppressive. The wind just picked up, and we may have more dry lightning 
>>> on Sunday. 
>>>
>>> Waking up in a sleeping bag by the ocean to the End Times Thunder and 
>>> Lighting Show was pretty intense. “Oh this will go down in the oral 
>>> histories.”
>>>
>>> Philip
>>> Global Warming, CA
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 4:48:33 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 I spent ~5 years on SoCal -- Calabasas/Malibu and Santa Paula/Ojai and 
 Pasadena and Atherton (girlfriend) way back in the '70s and early '80s, 
 college and hanging around afterward. I recall yearly wildfires and the 
 little everyday earthquakes; but nothing like the last few years, which 
 have been rather apocalyptic.

 I just read on the CR list that a well-known builder lost his property.

 Is Walnut Creek affected?

 I hope all living there and reading this are safe. 

 Here in high desert ABQ, NM the sun has long since burned off most fire 
 fuel, but I live in the little green belt -- bosque -- adjacent to the Rio 
 Grand; the summer before I bought my house, there was a bosque fire, after 
 which the City went in and cleaned out the thickets of imported willows 
 and 
 other aliens so we've not had one since. But I don't use a charcoal grill.

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[RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[MoVelo]

The sunrises and sunsets have been fantastic here in flyover territory. 
Thanks.

On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 11:05:45 AM UTC-5 Ash wrote:

>
> The smoke situation in South Bay Area keeps changing between bad and very 
> bad.
>
> These pictures are from a trail I frequent.  Before the fire vs yesterday. 
>  
>
> My heart goes out to folks with respiratory issues and those who live near 
> the mountains.  It is a very very scary situation.   
> [image: IMG_3913.JPG]
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[RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[Kevin D norcal]

Radavist article re: Chuck Teixeira - A Living Legend of Cycling Has Lost 
his Home and Workshop: Let’s Give Him a Hand

https://theradavist.com/2020/08/a-living-legend-of-cycling-has-lost-his-home-and-workshop-lets-give-him-a-hand/
  
On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 6:13:08 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Mitch Pryor was MAP Bicycles in Paradise, CA., he lost everything in the 
> Camp Fire two years ago. 
>
> On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 4:48:33 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I spent ~5 years on SoCal -- Calabasas/Malibu and Santa Paula/Ojai and 
>> Pasadena and Atherton (girlfriend) way back in the '70s and early '80s, 
>> college and hanging around afterward. I recall yearly wildfires and the 
>> little everyday earthquakes; but nothing like the last few years, which 
>> have been rather apocalyptic.
>>
>> I just read on the CR list that a well-known builder lost his property.
>>
>> Is Walnut Creek affected?
>>
>> I hope all living there and reading this are safe. 
>>
>> Here in high desert ABQ, NM the sun has long since burned off most fire 
>> fuel, but I live in the little green belt -- bosque -- adjacent to the Rio 
>> Grand; the summer before I bought my house, there was a bosque fire, after 
>> which the City went in and cleaned out the thickets of imported willows and 
>> other aliens so we've not had one since. But I don't use a charcoal grill.
>>
>> -- 
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>> ---
>> Patrick Moore
>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[Joe Bernard]

Much. It was already significantly improved by the time I moved north in 
'88, and much more when I've visited since. Emissions controls on cars and 
factories did SoCal a world of good. 
On Sunday, August 23, 2020 at 4:27:35 PM UTC-7 Joel wrote:

> So it is better?
>
> On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 7:14 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> Yep, it was bad growing up in Long Beach, CA. in the '70s. The smoky air 
>> I'm looking at right now was every day then..your throat hurt all the time 
>> and the horizon was brown. It's much better now and may actually stay that 
>> way if we get this sociopath out of office soon. 
>>
>> On Sunday, August 23, 2020 at 12:08:20 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> SoCal has had respiratory-system-threatening atmospherics for decades 
>>> and decades. The year after college and before grad school I looked around 
>>> for some job and (silly me!) chose 7th/8th grade teacher at St. Philip's 
>>> Catholic school in Pasadena. I recall days when the smog was so diabolic 
>>> that the 101 fwy bridge about 160 metres (Google maps) from the parish 
>>> grounds was *invisible.* Orangey-browny obscuration that made your eyes 
>>> water.
>>>
>>> Back then I ran, and being too lazy to get up at 5 am to do it, I did it 
>>> in the afternoons. I ran on one such hard-smog day -- Pasdena Community 
>>> College track across street -- and for days afterward I had the equivalent 
>>> of a modestly severe respiratory infection.
>>>
>>> I do recall the rather wonderful view of flying into LA in the morning 
>>> back in the '70s and seeing the majestic vision of early morning sunlight 
>>> on the dense, opaque cloud wholly obscuring the city. What an effing 
>>> monstrosity! Bad in '70s and '90s; better now, smoke aside?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 5:24 PM Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA <
>>> benzo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 which reminded me of when I flew into LA in the mid-90s, saw the 
 thick brown layer of smog blanketing the region, and then felt it in my 
 eyes.

>>> ---
>>> Patrick Moore
>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

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So it is better?

On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 7:14 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Yep, it was bad growing up in Long Beach, CA. in the '70s. The smoky air
> I'm looking at right now was every day then..your throat hurt all the time
> and the horizon was brown. It's much better now and may actually stay that
> way if we get this sociopath out of office soon.
>
> On Sunday, August 23, 2020 at 12:08:20 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> SoCal has had respiratory-system-threatening atmospherics for decades and
>> decades. The year after college and before grad school I looked around for
>> some job and (silly me!) chose 7th/8th grade teacher at St. Philip's
>> Catholic school in Pasadena. I recall days when the smog was so diabolic
>> that the 101 fwy bridge about 160 metres (Google maps) from the parish
>> grounds was *invisible.* Orangey-browny obscuration that made your eyes
>> water.
>>
>> Back then I ran, and being too lazy to get up at 5 am to do it, I did it
>> in the afternoons. I ran on one such hard-smog day -- Pasdena Community
>> College track across street -- and for days afterward I had the equivalent
>> of a modestly severe respiratory infection.
>>
>> I do recall the rather wonderful view of flying into LA in the morning
>> back in the '70s and seeing the majestic vision of early morning sunlight
>> on the dense, opaque cloud wholly obscuring the city. What an effing
>> monstrosity! Bad in '70s and '90s; better now, smoke aside?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 5:24 PM Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA <
>> benzo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> which reminded me of when I flew into LA in the mid-90s, saw the
>>> thick brown layer of smog blanketing the region, and then felt it in my
>>> eyes.
>>>
>> ---
>> Patrick Moore
>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

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Yep, it was bad growing up in Long Beach, CA. in the '70s. The smoky air 
I'm looking at right now was every day then..your throat hurt all the time 
and the horizon was brown. It's much better now and may actually stay that 
way if we get this sociopath out of office soon. 

On Sunday, August 23, 2020 at 12:08:20 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> SoCal has had respiratory-system-threatening atmospherics for decades and 
> decades. The year after college and before grad school I looked around for 
> some job and (silly me!) chose 7th/8th grade teacher at St. Philip's 
> Catholic school in Pasadena. I recall days when the smog was so diabolic 
> that the 101 fwy bridge about 160 metres (Google maps) from the parish 
> grounds was *invisible.* Orangey-browny obscuration that made your eyes 
> water.
>
> Back then I ran, and being too lazy to get up at 5 am to do it, I did it 
> in the afternoons. I ran on one such hard-smog day -- Pasdena Community 
> College track across street -- and for days afterward I had the equivalent 
> of a modestly severe respiratory infection.
>
> I do recall the rather wonderful view of flying into LA in the morning 
> back in the '70s and seeing the majestic vision of early morning sunlight 
> on the dense, opaque cloud wholly obscuring the city. What an effing 
> monstrosity! Bad in '70s and '90s; better now, smoke aside?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 5:24 PM Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA <
> benzo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> which reminded me of when I flew into LA in the mid-90s, saw the 
>> thick brown layer of smog blanketing the region, and then felt it in my 
>> eyes.
>>
> ---
> Patrick Moore
> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
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[RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

['John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Living in the middle of all this smoke, I've been monitoring our air 
quality on PurpleAir's website. The amount of 
information available through PurpleAir depends upon the density of people 
who have purchased & installed their sensors, but people have installed 
their sensors worldwide, and you can monitor air quality, humidity & 
temperature. I noticed SF Bay Area news stations are now using the 
PurpleAir maps in their news casts.

John

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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[Robert Tilley]

  Air quality improved significantly since the 70's.  San Diego was never that bad but I recall trips through LA and the air quality was horrible. We did have some days here where we had to cancel PE due to smog but it was rare.Robert TilleySan Diego, CA Sent from my BlackBerry - the most secure mobile device   From: bertin...@gmail.comSent: August 23, 2020 12:08 PMTo: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comReply-to: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires  SoCal has had respiratory-system-threatening atmospherics for decades and decades. The year after college and before grad school I looked around for some job and (silly me!) chose 7th/8th grade teacher at St. Philip's Catholic school in Pasadena. I recall days when the smog was so diabolic that the 101 fwy bridge about 160 metres (Google maps) from the parish grounds was invisible. Orangey-browny obscuration that made your eyes water.Back then I ran, and being too lazy to get up at 5 am to do it, I did it in the afternoons. I ran on one such hard-smog day -- Pasdena Community College track across street -- and for days afterward I had the equivalent of a modestly severe respiratory infection.I do recall the rather wonderful view of flying into LA in the morning back in the '70s and seeing the majestic vision of early morning sunlight on the dense, opaque cloud wholly obscuring the city. What an effing monstrosity! Bad in '70s and '90s; better now, smoke aside?On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 5:24 PM Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA  wrote:which reminded me of when I flew into LA in the mid-90s, saw the thick brown layer of smog blanketing the region, and then felt it in my eyes.---Patrick MooreAlburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum



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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[Patrick Moore]

SoCal has had respiratory-system-threatening atmospherics for decades and
decades. The year after college and before grad school I looked around for
some job and (silly me!) chose 7th/8th grade teacher at St. Philip's
Catholic school in Pasadena. I recall days when the smog was so diabolic
that the 101 fwy bridge about 160 metres (Google maps) from the parish
grounds was *invisible.* Orangey-browny obscuration that made your eyes
water.

Back then I ran, and being too lazy to get up at 5 am to do it, I did it in
the afternoons. I ran on one such hard-smog day -- Pasdena Community
College track across street -- and for days afterward I had the equivalent
of a modestly severe respiratory infection.

I do recall the rather wonderful view of flying into LA in the morning back
in the '70s and seeing the majestic vision of early morning sunlight on the
dense, opaque cloud wholly obscuring the city. What an effing monstrosity!
Bad in '70s and '90s; better now, smoke aside?





On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 5:24 PM Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA <
benzouy...@gmail.com> wrote:

> which reminded me of when I flew into LA in the mid-90s, saw the thick
> brown layer of smog blanketing the region, and then felt it in my eyes.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[Robert Tilley]

  It's not good up North. We typically get worse down here in the South in October when the dry Santa Ana winds start to blow in. It's been a hot summer so far so I'm not looking forward to those winds. I'll be clearing out some brush around the house soon as a preventative measure.Good luck to those currently affected!Robert TilleySan Diego, CA Sent from my BlackBerry - the most secure mobile device   From: benzouy...@gmail.comSent: August 22, 2020 4:24 PMTo: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comReply-to: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires  Here's a website that can convey the extent of the wildfires. Remember that the areas in darker red are burning, and the areas in lighter red (orange?) are under an evacuation order (meaning residents need to pack up and leave). Even in Silicon Valley, the air quality is bad enough that friends with asthma are avoiding any outdoor activities in fear of exacerbation. Even indoors, my eyes are beginning to water a bit, which reminded me of when I flew into LA in the mid-90s, saw the thick brown layer of smog blanketing the region, and then felt it in my eyes.On Saturday, August 22, 2020 at 1:56:40 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Yes, CA Friends, you’re on my mind every day. Our air is hazy all the way in Vegas, so I can’t imagine what it’s like for our Californian friends. Are you out there riding in the smoke and ash-filled air? Staying in? Anyone having to evacuate?2020...the hits just keep coming. I’m so sorry, and I hope you’re safe. ❤️On Saturday, August 22, 2020 at 11:48:17 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:Wow. Again, best wishes and a prayer.I laughed at your signature.On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 6:55 PM Philip Williamson  wrote:Thanks Patrick. As my friend at Tilted Shed Ciderworks said on Monday, “Here we go again.”Looks like the roads I rode last weekend are now either evacuated or burned out. Dozens of acquaintances are evacuated, and the smoke and heat are oppressive. The wind just picked up, and we may have more dry lightning on Sunday. Waking up in a sleeping bag by the ocean to the End Times Thunder and Lighting Show was pretty intense. “Oh this will go down in the oral histories.”PhilipGlobal Warming, CAOn Friday, August 21, 2020 at 4:48:33 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:I spent ~5 years on SoCal -- Calabasas/Malibu and Santa Paula/Ojai and Pasadena and Atherton (girlfriend) way back in the '70s and early '80s, college and hanging around afterward. I recall yearly wildfires and the little everyday earthquakes; but nothing like the last few years, which have been rather apocalyptic.I just read on the CR list that a well-known builder lost his property.Is Walnut Creek affected?I hope all living there and reading this are safe. Here in high desert ABQ, NM the sun has long since burned off most fire fuel, but I live in the little green belt -- bosque -- adjacent to the Rio Grand; the summer before I bought my house, there was a bosque fire, after which the City went in and cleaned out the thickets of imported willows and other aliens so we've not had one since. But I don't use a charcoal grill.-- ---Patrick MooreAlburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum




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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA]

Here's a website 

 
that can convey the extent of the wildfires. Remember that the areas in 
darker red are burning, and the areas in lighter red (orange?) are under an 
evacuation *order *(meaning residents need to pack up and leave). 

Even in Silicon Valley, the air quality is bad enough 

 
that friends with asthma are avoiding any outdoor activities in fear of 
exacerbation. Even indoors, my eyes are beginning to water a bit, which 
reminded me of when I flew into LA in the mid-90s, saw the thick brown 
layer of smog blanketing the region, and then felt it in my eyes.


On Saturday, August 22, 2020 at 1:56:40 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Yes, CA Friends, you’re on my mind every day. Our air is hazy all the way 
> in Vegas, so I can’t imagine what it’s like for our Californian friends. 
> Are you out there riding in the smoke and ash-filled air? Staying in? 
> Anyone having to evacuate?
>
> 2020...the hits just keep coming. 
>
> I’m so sorry, and I hope you’re safe. ❤️
>
> On Saturday, August 22, 2020 at 11:48:17 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Wow. Again, best wishes and a prayer.
>>
>> I laughed at your signature.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 6:55 PM Philip Williamson  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Patrick. As my friend at Tilted Shed Ciderworks said on Monday, 
>>> “Here we go again.”
>>> Looks like the roads I rode last weekend are now either evacuated or 
>>> burned out. Dozens of acquaintances are evacuated, and the smoke and heat 
>>> are oppressive. The wind just picked up, and we may have more dry lightning 
>>> on Sunday. 
>>>
>>> Waking up in a sleeping bag by the ocean to the End Times Thunder and 
>>> Lighting Show was pretty intense. “Oh this will go down in the oral 
>>> histories.”
>>>
>>> Philip
>>> Global Warming, CA
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 4:48:33 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 I spent ~5 years on SoCal -- Calabasas/Malibu and Santa Paula/Ojai and 
 Pasadena and Atherton (girlfriend) way back in the '70s and early '80s, 
 college and hanging around afterward. I recall yearly wildfires and the 
 little everyday earthquakes; but nothing like the last few years, which 
 have been rather apocalyptic.

 I just read on the CR list that a well-known builder lost his property.

 Is Walnut Creek affected?

 I hope all living there and reading this are safe. 

 Here in high desert ABQ, NM the sun has long since burned off most fire 
 fuel, but I live in the little green belt -- bosque -- adjacent to the Rio 
 Grand; the summer before I bought my house, there was a bosque fire, after 
 which the City went in and cleaned out the thickets of imported willows 
 and 
 other aliens so we've not had one since. But I don't use a charcoal grill.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[Joel Stern]

Stay safe Joe.

On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 6:55 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> It's definitely not awesome. I'm in Novato, Marin County, and at 4pm
> Saturday 8/22/20 it's freakin` *dark* out there! The fun really begins
> tomorrow morning with a 5-hour dry lightning warning. Yayyy!!! 
>
> On Saturday, August 22, 2020 at 1:56:40 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, CA Friends, you’re on my mind every day. Our air is hazy all the way
>> in Vegas, so I can’t imagine what it’s like for our Californian friends.
>> Are you out there riding in the smoke and ash-filled air? Staying in?
>> Anyone having to evacuate?
>>
>> 2020...the hits just keep coming.
>>
>> I’m so sorry, and I hope you’re safe. ❤️
>>
>> On Saturday, August 22, 2020 at 11:48:17 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Wow. Again, best wishes and a prayer.
>>>
>>> I laughed at your signature.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 6:55 PM Philip Williamson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Patrick. As my friend at Tilted Shed Ciderworks said on Monday,
 “Here we go again.”
 Looks like the roads I rode last weekend are now either evacuated or
 burned out. Dozens of acquaintances are evacuated, and the smoke and heat
 are oppressive. The wind just picked up, and we may have more dry lightning
 on Sunday.

 Waking up in a sleeping bag by the ocean to the End Times Thunder and
 Lighting Show was pretty intense. “Oh this will go down in the oral
 histories.”

 Philip
 Global Warming, CA

 On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 4:48:33 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I spent ~5 years on SoCal -- Calabasas/Malibu and Santa Paula/Ojai and
> Pasadena and Atherton (girlfriend) way back in the '70s and early '80s,
> college and hanging around afterward. I recall yearly wildfires and the
> little everyday earthquakes; but nothing like the last few years, which
> have been rather apocalyptic.
>
> I just read on the CR list that a well-known builder lost his property.
>
> Is Walnut Creek affected?
>
> I hope all living there and reading this are safe.
>
> Here in high desert ABQ, NM the sun has long since burned off most
> fire fuel, but I live in the little green belt -- bosque -- adjacent to 
> the
> Rio Grand; the summer before I bought my house, there was a bosque fire,
> after which the City went in and cleaned out the thickets of imported
> willows and other aliens so we've not had one since. But I don't use a
> charcoal grill.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[Joe Bernard]

It's definitely not awesome. I'm in Novato, Marin County, and at 4pm 
Saturday 8/22/20 it's freakin` *dark* out there! The fun really begins 
tomorrow morning with a 5-hour dry lightning warning. Yayyy!!! 

On Saturday, August 22, 2020 at 1:56:40 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Yes, CA Friends, you’re on my mind every day. Our air is hazy all the way 
> in Vegas, so I can’t imagine what it’s like for our Californian friends. 
> Are you out there riding in the smoke and ash-filled air? Staying in? 
> Anyone having to evacuate?
>
> 2020...the hits just keep coming. 
>
> I’m so sorry, and I hope you’re safe. ❤️
>
> On Saturday, August 22, 2020 at 11:48:17 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Wow. Again, best wishes and a prayer.
>>
>> I laughed at your signature.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 6:55 PM Philip Williamson  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Patrick. As my friend at Tilted Shed Ciderworks said on Monday, 
>>> “Here we go again.”
>>> Looks like the roads I rode last weekend are now either evacuated or 
>>> burned out. Dozens of acquaintances are evacuated, and the smoke and heat 
>>> are oppressive. The wind just picked up, and we may have more dry lightning 
>>> on Sunday. 
>>>
>>> Waking up in a sleeping bag by the ocean to the End Times Thunder and 
>>> Lighting Show was pretty intense. “Oh this will go down in the oral 
>>> histories.”
>>>
>>> Philip
>>> Global Warming, CA
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 4:48:33 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 I spent ~5 years on SoCal -- Calabasas/Malibu and Santa Paula/Ojai and 
 Pasadena and Atherton (girlfriend) way back in the '70s and early '80s, 
 college and hanging around afterward. I recall yearly wildfires and the 
 little everyday earthquakes; but nothing like the last few years, which 
 have been rather apocalyptic.

 I just read on the CR list that a well-known builder lost his property.

 Is Walnut Creek affected?

 I hope all living there and reading this are safe. 

 Here in high desert ABQ, NM the sun has long since burned off most fire 
 fuel, but I live in the little green belt -- bosque -- adjacent to the Rio 
 Grand; the summer before I bought my house, there was a bosque fire, after 
 which the City went in and cleaned out the thickets of imported willows 
 and 
 other aliens so we've not had one since. But I don't use a charcoal grill.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Yes, CA Friends, you’re on my mind every day. Our air is hazy all the way 
in Vegas, so I can’t imagine what it’s like for our Californian friends. 
Are you out there riding in the smoke and ash-filled air? Staying in? 
Anyone having to evacuate?

2020...the hits just keep coming. 

I’m so sorry, and I hope you’re safe. ❤️

On Saturday, August 22, 2020 at 11:48:17 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Wow. Again, best wishes and a prayer.
>
> I laughed at your signature.
>
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 6:55 PM Philip Williamson  
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Patrick. As my friend at Tilted Shed Ciderworks said on Monday, 
>> “Here we go again.”
>> Looks like the roads I rode last weekend are now either evacuated or 
>> burned out. Dozens of acquaintances are evacuated, and the smoke and heat 
>> are oppressive. The wind just picked up, and we may have more dry lightning 
>> on Sunday. 
>>
>> Waking up in a sleeping bag by the ocean to the End Times Thunder and 
>> Lighting Show was pretty intense. “Oh this will go down in the oral 
>> histories.”
>>
>> Philip
>> Global Warming, CA
>>
>> On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 4:48:33 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> I spent ~5 years on SoCal -- Calabasas/Malibu and Santa Paula/Ojai and 
>>> Pasadena and Atherton (girlfriend) way back in the '70s and early '80s, 
>>> college and hanging around afterward. I recall yearly wildfires and the 
>>> little everyday earthquakes; but nothing like the last few years, which 
>>> have been rather apocalyptic.
>>>
>>> I just read on the CR list that a well-known builder lost his property.
>>>
>>> Is Walnut Creek affected?
>>>
>>> I hope all living there and reading this are safe. 
>>>
>>> Here in high desert ABQ, NM the sun has long since burned off most fire 
>>> fuel, but I live in the little green belt -- bosque -- adjacent to the Rio 
>>> Grand; the summer before I bought my house, there was a bosque fire, after 
>>> which the City went in and cleaned out the thickets of imported willows and 
>>> other aliens so we've not had one since. But I don't use a charcoal grill.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[Patrick Moore]

Wow. Again, best wishes and a prayer.

I laughed at your signature.

On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 6:55 PM Philip Williamson <
philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Patrick. As my friend at Tilted Shed Ciderworks said on Monday,
> “Here we go again.”
> Looks like the roads I rode last weekend are now either evacuated or
> burned out. Dozens of acquaintances are evacuated, and the smoke and heat
> are oppressive. The wind just picked up, and we may have more dry lightning
> on Sunday.
>
> Waking up in a sleeping bag by the ocean to the End Times Thunder and
> Lighting Show was pretty intense. “Oh this will go down in the oral
> histories.”
>
> Philip
> Global Warming, CA
>
> On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 4:48:33 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I spent ~5 years on SoCal -- Calabasas/Malibu and Santa Paula/Ojai and
>> Pasadena and Atherton (girlfriend) way back in the '70s and early '80s,
>> college and hanging around afterward. I recall yearly wildfires and the
>> little everyday earthquakes; but nothing like the last few years, which
>> have been rather apocalyptic.
>>
>> I just read on the CR list that a well-known builder lost his property.
>>
>> Is Walnut Creek affected?
>>
>> I hope all living there and reading this are safe.
>>
>> Here in high desert ABQ, NM the sun has long since burned off most fire
>> fuel, but I live in the little green belt -- bosque -- adjacent to the Rio
>> Grand; the summer before I bought my house, there was a bosque fire, after
>> which the City went in and cleaned out the thickets of imported willows and
>> other aliens so we've not had one since. But I don't use a charcoal grill.
>>
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>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
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[RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[Joel]

Patrick, I bet Walnut Creek is getting the smoke, my daughter in Berkeley 
and friends in the Oakland Hills are, my buddy told me his car was full of 
ash.  

Good luck to all. 

On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 7:48:33 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I spent ~5 years on SoCal -- Calabasas/Malibu and Santa Paula/Ojai and 
> Pasadena and Atherton (girlfriend) way back in the '70s and early '80s, 
> college and hanging around afterward. I recall yearly wildfires and the 
> little everyday earthquakes; but nothing like the last few years, which 
> have been rather apocalyptic.
>
> I just read on the CR list that a well-known builder lost his property.
>
> Is Walnut Creek affected?
>
> I hope all living there and reading this are safe. 
>
> Here in high desert ABQ, NM the sun has long since burned off most fire 
> fuel, but I live in the little green belt -- bosque -- adjacent to the Rio 
> Grand; the summer before I bought my house, there was a bosque fire, after 
> which the City went in and cleaned out the thickets of imported willows and 
> other aliens so we've not had one since. But I don't use a charcoal grill.
>
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> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
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[RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[Joe Bernard]

Mitch Pryor was MAP Bicycles in Paradise, CA., he lost everything in the 
Camp Fire two years ago. 

On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 4:48:33 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I spent ~5 years on SoCal -- Calabasas/Malibu and Santa Paula/Ojai and 
> Pasadena and Atherton (girlfriend) way back in the '70s and early '80s, 
> college and hanging around afterward. I recall yearly wildfires and the 
> little everyday earthquakes; but nothing like the last few years, which 
> have been rather apocalyptic.
>
> I just read on the CR list that a well-known builder lost his property.
>
> Is Walnut Creek affected?
>
> I hope all living there and reading this are safe. 
>
> Here in high desert ABQ, NM the sun has long since burned off most fire 
> fuel, but I live in the little green belt -- bosque -- adjacent to the Rio 
> Grand; the summer before I bought my house, there was a bosque fire, after 
> which the City went in and cleaned out the thickets of imported willows and 
> other aliens so we've not had one since. But I don't use a charcoal grill.
>
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>
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> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
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[RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[Philip Williamson]

Thanks Patrick. As my friend at Tilted Shed Ciderworks said on Monday, 
“Here we go again.”
Looks like the roads I rode last weekend are now either evacuated or burned 
out. Dozens of acquaintances are evacuated, and the smoke and heat are 
oppressive. The wind just picked up, and we may have more dry lightning on 
Sunday. 

Waking up in a sleeping bag by the ocean to the End Times Thunder and 
Lighting Show was pretty intense. “Oh this will go down in the oral 
histories.”

Philip
Global Warming, CA

On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 4:48:33 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I spent ~5 years on SoCal -- Calabasas/Malibu and Santa Paula/Ojai and 
> Pasadena and Atherton (girlfriend) way back in the '70s and early '80s, 
> college and hanging around afterward. I recall yearly wildfires and the 
> little everyday earthquakes; but nothing like the last few years, which 
> have been rather apocalyptic.
>
> I just read on the CR list that a well-known builder lost his property.
>
> Is Walnut Creek affected?
>
> I hope all living there and reading this are safe. 
>
> Here in high desert ABQ, NM the sun has long since burned off most fire 
> fuel, but I live in the little green belt -- bosque -- adjacent to the Rio 
> Grand; the summer before I bought my house, there was a bosque fire, after 
> which the City went in and cleaned out the thickets of imported willows and 
> other aliens so we've not had one since. But I don't use a charcoal grill.
>
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>
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> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
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