[RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

The bike packing crew will figure out some use for that empty space. dougP On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 6:57:42 PM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote: > > Looks like you could store a mini-pump in the tubular crown. > > Philip > Santa Rosa, CA > > On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 4:28:40 PM

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Looks like it’s going to be a cool bike :) The tubular fork crown reminds me of a fancier version on some old Raleigh fork crowns. Eamon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

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It's squished, tho. tire compat: it isn't designed for 3.0. just 2.8. In fact, most sub tires are 2.6. I am pretty sure there are no trails in this part of NorCal that require or are more fun or safer on a tire bigger than 2.3, at least at the speeds I ride. the bike seems to fit a 3.0 fine, but

[RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

Looks like you could store a mini-pump in the tubular crown. Philip Santa Rosa, CA On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 4:28:40 PM UTC-7, ML / SF wrote: > > From today's newsletter: > > >> Here's the new MTB fork that has us all excited. We'll get the bikes >> built up for Interbike late next week.

[RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

Not fatbike wide but certainly chubby enough. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

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Looks properly TUFF and wide! Eamon Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

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>From today's newsletter: > Here's the new MTB fork that has us all excited. We'll get the bikes built > up for Interbike late next week. They're looking really fun; check Grant's > Blagh > >

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No need to be sorry - nobody claimed a HiteRite is everything a modern dropper is. I just said I think they work better than some might give them credit for, and I don't think anyone else said or implied much different. Happily use your dropper judgement free - I bet their fun to use! On

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I have a few droppers on a couple of bikes...Rock Shox Reverbs. They are pretty great when I remember to use them. The trouble with the first one I got was the push button plunger thingy just wasn't easy to use. It was just stiff and my poor thumb didn't like it, so I didn't get into the habit

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I have to get behind Philip on this one. Dropper on a fat tired road bike that you hit the rugged logging roads with is just splendid. Nothing quite like zinging around rutted corners on a big 747 standard diameter frame with your dropper all the way down. That’s the Golden Age of bicycles

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The YouTube style of riding has upped the requirements for bike and fork testing, but the tests still aren't super reflective of how and why things break in real life. ALL carbon frames and forks pass the tests, and yet they continue to fail, because of the brittle nature of it and the

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I see - some mixtes may not have enough seat post extension to drop. Makes sense. Hite rites! Every time I've seen a used hite rite for sale, it's been $15. For the last 30 years! It's been about 30 years since I rode with one, too. After riding with a remote dropper, after years of manually

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Never has the phrase "your mileage may vary" had more meaning than in a discussion of the failure mode of carbon fiber bike parts... Hugh "fail gracefully" Flynn Newburyport, MA On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 1:38 PM masmojo wrote: > Just saying we should be able to have a spirited discussion, be

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Just saying we should be able to have a spirited discussion, be objective and not take things personally. I am posting this link, but I should qualify that I am not trying to make any particular point; just that I was somewhat surprised at the punishment inflicted on these CF frames. It made

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Here is another one. The guy goes down at around the 8 minute mark from a busted handlebar. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw5QQyJSyso On Wednesday, July 25, 2018 at 9:07:46 PM UTC-5, ascpgh wrote: > > Like this: https://youtu.be/6QBRjp9-uJg ? > > No thanks. Might work, might not. When it

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It honestly wasn't intended as the kind of thing that requires thick skin, and I'll be careful not to say things that do. Sorry! On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 9:40 PM, masmojo wrote: > Grant, Mr. Masmojo has very thick skin; pick all you want. > I agree with everything you said there pretty much. >

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Masmojo, the trick - as illuminated in the article in the CF thread - is to find frames and parts built to a survivable standard to the way real bicycles are really ridden, dropped and crashed. Does Calfee do this? Probably, buy a Calfee, I would. Do the mass manufacturers? NOPE. -- You

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Grant, Mr. Masmojo has very thick skin; pick all you want. I agree with everything you said there pretty much. It's just that these things are not necessarily cast in stone. I've personally seen carbon fiber bars & seat posts fail, BUT there's so many variables involved really, because at the

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Like this: https://youtu.be/6QBRjp9-uJg ? No thanks. Might work, might not. When it lets go is not science, just fate. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Wednesday, July 25, 2018 at 2:43:06 PM UTC-4, Ryan M. wrote: > > I've seen a friend at a local mountain bike race break a carbon handlebar >

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Hite Rites are kind of awesome low tech wonders. Yeah, modern droppers have more functionality, but Hite Rites work better than I bet a lot of people would expect. Eamon Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

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"Change" simply doesn't cut it. Not worth wasting the time and effort to align. "Improvement" is a different animal, assessed individually and offers a clear step forward for adopters. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Wednesday, July 25, 2018 at 12:26:59 PM UTC-4, masmojo wrote: > > I certainly

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it may be. you've used a HiteRite? On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 5:36 PM, Belopsky wrote: > a good dropper is better. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit

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a good dropper is better. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email

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On Wednesday, July 25, 2018 at 5:10:40 PM UTC-6, Philip Williamson wrote: > > Why wouldn't a dropper post work on a mixte frame? > > Philip > Santa Rosa, CA > By nature, a dropper post needs a fair amount of extension above the top of the seat tube in order to function. Grant said there would

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You can still get Hite-Rites to fit 26.6 to 27.2 frames. $45 or so, Tommy Breeze (Joe's son) sells them--I think on eBay. On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 4:10 PM, Philip Williamson < philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote: > Why wouldn't a dropper post work on a mixte frame? > > Philip > Santa Rosa, CA > >

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Why wouldn't a dropper post work on a mixte frame? Philip Santa Rosa, CA On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 5:52:45 PM UTC-7, iamkeith wrote: > > ( not that a dropper post would be a viable option on this if it indeed > goes mixte, so you're safe. I was really just wondering what you meant.) --

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I wouldn't spec a 27.2 post if I had a fatter option available. Thanks for the link - I see the GravityDropper comes in 27.0, which would fit my Bontrager Allroad. Kind of cool. I read that they have play at the saddle, though, which would be a non-starter for me. Philip Santa Rosa, CA On

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You're the brave one, Christopher  -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

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I’m going to go wy out on a limb here and guess this bike will be fabulous. ;) Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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I've seen a friend at a local mountain bike race break a carbon handlebar while in a full sprint. It wasn't pretty. I'm totally on board with a steel mtb with a nice steel fork, good geometry, and just a rideable trail bike that I can have until I pass from this world. On Wednesday, July

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I'll accept CF frames even if I don't have a particular taste for them. I still think carbon forks/steerers are madness. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

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aside from whatever real or imagined benefits there are to riders, the benefits of carbon and threadless to manufacturers are real and as concrete as concrete. Threadless forks eliminate a HUGE ongoing hassle and storage problem of stocking replacements for different sized frames. The fact that it

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I certainly don't endorse change for the sake of change, but if something works, it's better or solves a problem; I'll embrace it eventually, maybe begrudgingly, but I will & my enthusiasm & conviction will grow from there. I guess about the time I turned 50, I reaffirmed my conviction to keep

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Dang, you took the words right outta my mouth, bro! I was just getting ready to say exactly this. How weird is that?!! On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 8:31:34 PM UTC-4, Garth wrote:If Grant/Riv catered to the constantly changing whim of every customer .he would please no more/no less than

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We've been doing threadless for 25 years?! Holy crap I'm old. Btw, the adjuster on threadless is threaded. Clipless pedals have clips. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

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A century of threaded headsets and 25 years of threadless suggest they both work fine. The rest is preference and defense. On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 2:05 PM, Virgil Staphbeard wrote: > Also, the addition of a decaleur or cable hanger in the stack adds to the > loosening potential ,provided they

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Steve, I am 62 years old and have been riding for thirty years, using my Atlantis for daily transportation since 1999. I have a good understanding of what I need in a bike. My entire bike packing load is less than fifteen pounds. It has to be, because I tour up in the Oregon Cascades on single

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I begrudgingly agree. The Bosco bars put loads of torque on the stem connection to the point that I would worry about using them with a quill stem on single track. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 24, 2018, at 9:10 PM, Ryan Merrill wrote: > > Yeah, I personally think a quill stem is a bad idea

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Yeah, I personally think a quill stem is a bad idea for an MTB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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Drw, I hear you and I've been fighting the urge to be part of keeping this thread and the speculation alive, but I can't seem to help myself. I think the rim issue is now resolved by grant's "2.8, not 3.0" comment. The Cliffhanger might not be optimum, but it would certainly work. And if or

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( not that a dropper post would be a viable option on this if it indeed goes mixte, so you're safe. I was really just wondering what you meant.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

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For me, this comes down to rim availability. If a case can be made for a long term available rim brake rim for 2.8in tires, I’ll probably bite and replace the Toyo Atlantis that lives up near Yosemite. I don’t really need or care about disc brakes in the dryness of CA, but I don’t want to be

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I mean, I would like to see this when you receive it. On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 8:19:26 PM UTC-4, Philip Williamson wrote: > > As long as you don't go with a 31.6 seat tube to run a real dropper post. > Then I'll feel dumb for ordering my new Fitz (rigid fork, rim brakes, 60mm > tires,

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Philip, what constitutes a "real" dropper post? The original is still going strong, is made in the USA in my neck of the woods, still offers real customer service, and is still available in 27.2. http://gravitydropper.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

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Proofs in the pudding as they say. I wasn't particularly predisposed to liking either threadless stems or disc brakes, but after living with both for 10+ years I am more or less forced to concede to their superiority. A quill stem IS more esthetically pleasing, I don't think anyone will argue

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The smiley faces are what really put it over the plate  -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

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On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 6:27:54 PM UTC-4, Belopsky wrote: > What im reading is people will make sacrifices but why ? For the price that > this will be just get a custom jeez but then it's not a riv Igor, in cycling as in baseball , there's no crying  If Grant/Riv catered to the

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As long as you don't go with a 31.6 seat tube to run a real dropper post. Then I'll feel dumb for ordering my new Fitz (rigid fork, rim brakes, 60mm tires, dropper post). Philip Santa Rosa, CA On Monday, July 23, 2018 at 2:15:18 PM UTC-7, Grant @ Rivendell wrote: > > We're thinking of stuff

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Sure, but threadless setups flex less on "real mountain bikes" with massive amounts of flex built into their forks and rear triangles, so there ya go! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

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maybe or maybe not. quill stems flex for a real mountain bike. sorry not sorry. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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"What im reading is people will make sacrifices but why ? For the price that this will be just get a custom jeez but then it's not a riv" You be trollin' bro. At this point we have no idea what the price will be, so this comment contains a bushel of silliness. -- You received this message

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I think the fair comparison is bullmoose vs threadless and I’d bet that’s a significant weight difference. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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On 07/24/2018 06:25 PM, 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote: Stems. Threadless is a lighter system by quite a bit. Two things it lacks is adjustability and comfort. My long quill stem and the one inch steerer flex quite comfortably. I think it is one of the secrets to the Atlantis’s

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What im reading is people will make sacrifices but why ? For the price that this will be just get a custom jeez but then it's not a riv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

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Stems. Threadless is a lighter system by quite a bit. Two things it lacks is adjustability and comfort. My long quill stem and the one inch steerer flex quite comfortably. I think it is one of the secrets to the Atlantis’s adoration. It is far easier to raise and lower your handlebars too, but

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Also, the addition of a decaleur or cable hanger in the stack adds to the loosening potential ,provided they don't have their own locking potential (i.e. Paul Funky Monkey or Mark Guglielmana decaleur). The locknut fails to do its job if there is potentially rotating part introduced between

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I'd say that threadless needs an allen key or two, unless you have a stem with torx. easier than threaded. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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Few if any have even the slightest clue about how to adjust cable tension.  Most have no difficulty removing and replacing wheels or changing tires. On 07/24/2018 03:58 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: Those owners probably aren't fiddling with other parts of their bikes, either. I have a friend with

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It is completely easy & I thouught to mention that about about the tools after my last post, but it's important to note. One or two allen keys & you're set. Rather than 3 lbs of spanners. I was just thinking it would be funny to call it the Wildcat Rock Machine! LOL -- You received this

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Those owners probably aren't fiddling with other parts of their bikes, either. I have a friend with several bikes who hasn't the first clue about working on them, it's just not her thing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

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Thanks for the summary.  You do make it sound simple.  Makes me wonder why none of the owners who have them have ever had any idea how to go about adjusting one. On 07/24/2018 03:07 PM, Jeremy Till wrote: Hey Steve, it's really simple to adjust a threadless headset: 1. Loosen clamping bolts

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"In general I wouldn't say that either threaded or threadless headsets are inherently easier or harder to understand or adjust; it's just a matter of educating yourself on the procedures either way." I agree and would add that the great thing about threadless is that you are generally carrying

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Hey Steve, it's really simple to adjust a threadless headset: 1. Loosen clamping bolts on the stem. 2. Tighten the bolt in the top cap just enough that no play can be discerned via the usual headset adjustment check (locking front brake, rocking the bike against the fork). If the headset is

[RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

I find it hilarious that g00gle doesn't include an edit feature, but when the message is deleted they bother to post that it's been deleted. Hey, "no shit Sherlock" ! ahahahahahahahaah ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

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And it wasn't even that ever-so-slippery "not".    Say it ain't so, Joe... On 07/24/2018 01:40 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: Of course I confused things (again) with a typo. I give up! Deleted! -- Steve Palincsar Alexandria, Virginia USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

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Of course I confused things (again) with a typo. I give up! Deleted! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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A. My original answer related to early mountain bikers who had problems with threaded headsets loosening on singletrack, hence the invention of a different way to do it. B. Everybody should go to Park Tool and click on threaded headset adjustment. It's absurdly easy. -- You received this

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Actually, a threaded headset's adjustment is quite easy to understand.  It's obvious, really: there are nuts that are clearly meant to be tightened or loosened.  Threadless is another story: there's no visible means of support, other than maybe mash down hard on the stem and then clamp it

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Grant, yes that's the technique I use (learned working in a bike shop 37 years ago), but no matter, eventually they come loose. Steel headsets tend to stay in place better, fewer problems with loosening, but they're heavy. Aluminum on the other hand comes loose no matter. I discover mine is

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The "secret" to properly snugging a threaded headset is to use two wrenches (in the case of a non-Rinko style). The spanner kind goes on the cup flats, and it's really helpful to use the Stein-type (now also made by Park) that's chunky and grabs around about 230 degrees and cannot slip. You

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On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 2:37 PM masmojo wrote: > > ... > Riv, people don't have problems with headsets coming loose!? Wow, I wonder > what their secret is, I've never owned a bike with a quill stem that > didn't eventually need to be tightened. (& I've tried many techniques to > tighten them so

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Nothing to add but I would likely commit to one if they fit me. 2.8” is a pretty fat tire and fatter than what’s on my HHH and it’s super cushy with two people on it. Ray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

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Yeah, I've got an Ogre & it's hard to beat, but . . . . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

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The Troll is a super nice bike---a FINE alternative to the now fully explained one we're going to have, Bob. (And has discs!) On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 3:29 PM, Bob K. wrote: > The more I hear about this bike, the more I like it. I almost wish I > didn’t love my Surly Troll so much, as this

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The more I hear about this bike, the more I like it. I almost wish I didn’t love my Surly Troll so much, as this checks pretty much the same boxes, and I’ve already invested far, far too much money and time into a custom build (and two wheelsets) to about face. Oh, well. Psyched to be able to

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2.8s is plenty wide, for sure. I already ride a rigid mtb and the widest tire I use on it is a 2.4...the rear is a 2.2. It's a perfect combination for my local trails and don't really think wider would add much. I love the fact it will be threadless and 73mm bb, which makes it compatible with

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Regardless of the truth of either version of the comment, in my experience it's entirely irrelevant: although I've come upon riders in club rides with loose threadless headsets, I have yet to find one rider in any of those groups who had the first idea how to go about adjusting a threadless

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Hey Keith, I like the wrong version of my comment better!  -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

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On Monday, July 23, 2018 at 1:53:42 PM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Oh man, I'M SORRY I ANSWERED THE HEADSET QUESTION 臘 For what it's worth, I misread your original answer, laughed out loud, and thought it was the best line ever. My mind saw this: On Sunday, July 22, 2018 at 2:12:33 PM

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We're thinking of stuff about price. To be CLEM-like would mean all TIG, and that's--obviously--easier and still strong and all, but the first run will be mostly lug + fillet. We're considering some all- tig (minus seat lug) and may go half like that. Not sure.. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 11:10 AM,

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Oh man, I'M SORRY I ANSWERED THE HEADSET QUESTION 臘 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

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Well, it's nice for Grant to admit to stubbornness, certainly that's all the reason/excuse he needs. Riv, people don't have problems with headsets coming loose!? Wow, I wonder what their secret is, I've never owned a bike with a quill stem that didn't eventually need to be tightened. (& I've

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Nice!! Thanks for the info!! On Monday, July 23, 2018 at 12:40:57 PM UTC-5, Grant @ Rivendell wrote: > > OK...I know there's no killing a thread, at least not without > repercussions, but I'm not going to fee it anymore. At its best, developing > a bike is fun, and this bike is pure that

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Will the price be Clem like? I know, I know you said that’s all you have to say about that for now, channeling my Gump. But, I had to ask... Doug from low humidity pleasant day in Athens, GA. Won’t get used to it Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 23, 2018, at 2:05 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Yeah,

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You had me at, “Two to four colors, three of which will be almost identical.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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Yeah, I'm gonna need this bike. I don't think I ever emailed anyone at Riv about it, but I love the HHH fork and was hoping it would show up on a not-tandem eventually. Take my money! Joe Bernard Novato CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

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One more futile plea for disc brakes from the wet, muddy, snowy, icy northeast here. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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Bless you, Jeremy! Where were you 20 minutes ago? On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 10:15 AM, Jeremy Till wrote: > I think, respectfully, that maybe we should give this thread a rest, at > least until further details of the bike are confirmed, as we're going in > circles. It was pointed out 6 pages ago

Re: [RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

OK...I know there's no killing a thread, at least not without repercussions, but I'm not going to fee it anymore. At its best, developing a bike is fun, and this bike is pure that for me and the others here. It will NOT meet expectations, it'll barely miss the mark for most people reading this,

Re: [RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

I think, respectfully, that maybe we should give this thread a rest, at least until further details of the bike are confirmed, as we're going in circles. It was pointed out 6 pages ago that yes, the first gen Pugsleys had cantilever bosses and yes, Rivendell built one up with drop bars and

Re: [RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

The cantis are either vintage Onzas, or a modern copy thereof. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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What are those canti’s on that pugsley?! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

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Doesn’t Grant have a Pugsley with drop bars and cantis, or did at one time, works for me. Steve On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:58 PM Belopsky wrote: > Remember when the Pugsley had v-brakes? > > https://i.pinimg.com/originals/23/96/70/239670ed17601a10f0697b8cd5cfdd6b.jpg > > -- > You received this

[RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

I got into Surly after the Pugsley switched to disc brakes and didn't know it had cantilevers at one time. Thanks for answering that question for me! On Monday, July 23, 2018 at 10:58:13 AM UTC-5, Belopsky wrote: > > Remember when the Pugsley had v-brakes? > >

[RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

Remember when the Pugsley had v-brakes? https://i.pinimg.com/originals/23/96/70/239670ed17601a10f0697b8cd5cfdd6b.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

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Does anyone remember when Grant wrote that if you want anything wider than what the Hunq fits, to get a Pugsley? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

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It's going to be fun seeing what Rivendell comes up with for a mountain bike but I think they will be really missing the boat if they don't enter world of Plus tires. I don't remember if that has been ruled out or maybe the no disk brakes decision rules them out? I don't know if cantilevers

[RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

Igor, I think Riv should make as many variations on Rivbikes as Trek makes on Trekbikes. Pick your color, bars, brakes, tires and TIG or lugs preferences and just ride that sucker! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

If this is a mountain bike then what are all the other mountain bi... OK I give up. Rivendell will Rivendell. Lets make more bikes that are already bikes we have. Like Crust right? ugh. At least someone is doing it -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

A single speed, lugged steel MTB?Sign me up! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

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