[RBW] Re: RIV status of 650; and big frames .

2010-08-19 Thread Noel
Ah, but look closely: at the seat tube, just above the rear brake bridge, I have integrated an LED tailight, wired through the frame to my Schmidt Dynohub. I rejoice in your envy! Noel On Aug 17, 1:29 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 13:24 -0700, Esteban wrote:

Re: [RBW] Re: RIV status of 650; and big frames .

2010-08-19 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 22:30 -0700, Noel wrote: Ah, but look closely: at the seat tube, just above the rear brake bridge, I have integrated an LED tailight, wired through the frame to my Schmidt Dynohub. I wasn't saying you need a tail light. I love seat tube mounted tail lights, they're

Re: [RBW] Re: RIV status of 650; and big frames .

2010-08-18 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 22:51 -0700, Esteban wrote: If Anthony at Longleaf can pull together reliable deliver of his version of the P/R, there should be good, cheap 650B options out there. Yes, but what, if anything is happening with that effort? There hasn't been an update since last year,

[RBW] Re: RIV status of 650; and big frames .

2010-08-18 Thread EricP
And this shows how different folks react to bikes. I wanted to love the P/R. Tried everything possible to get it to work for me. Unfortunately, there were some issues that were for me insurmountable. Have a theory, although it is neither here nor there at this point. (But will mention it would

Re: [RBW] Re: RIV status of 650; and big frames .

2010-08-18 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:12 AM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: And this shows how different folks react to bikes.  I wanted to love the P/R.  Tried everything possible to get it to work for me. Unfortunately, there were some issues that were for me insurmountable.  Have a theory, although it

Re: [RBW] Re: RIV status of 650; and big frames .

2010-08-18 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 11:17 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:12 AM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: And this shows how different folks react to bikes. I wanted to love the P/R. Tried everything possible to get it to work for me. Unfortunately, there were some issues that

Re: [RBW] Re: RIV status of 650; and big frames .

2010-08-18 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: Having to deflate the tire wasn't a quality control issue, but rather the consequence of the decision to go with horizontal dropouts, I believe. Making the dropouts a tiny amount shorter would have solved that one.  And

Re: [RBW] Re: RIV status of 650; and big frames .

2010-08-18 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 12:27 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: Having to deflate the tire wasn't a quality control issue, but rather the consequence of the decision to go with horizontal dropouts, I believe. Making the

[RBW] Re: RIV status of 650; and big frames .

2010-08-18 Thread Esteban
But the Kogswell 700c contribution (note that I did not spell that with a k) was ultimately for a 3-page report in BQ that provided some logic for this here discussion. I don't have it here with me, but I think it went something like this: 700c is optimal for tires up to 32/33.3...650B is best

Re: [RBW] Re: RIV status of 650; and big frames .

2010-08-18 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 10:54 -0700, Esteban wrote: But the Kogswell 700c contribution (note that I did not spell that with a k) was ultimately for a 3-page report in BQ that provided some logic for this here discussion. Yes, I do have to give you that. -- You received this message because

[RBW] Re: RIV status of 650; and big frames .

2010-08-17 Thread Esteban
Just to return to aesthetics for to a moment, there's just something right about 650B with fenders on a larger frame. Here's Noel on his aforementioned 63 (riding with Rob on his 60cm QB): http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/3828775512/ Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Aug 16, 6:45 pm, Tim

Re: [RBW] Re: RIV status of 650; and big frames .

2010-08-17 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 13:24 -0700, Esteban wrote: Just to return to aesthetics for to a moment, there's just something right about 650B with fenders on a larger frame. Here's Noel on his aforementioned 63 (riding with Rob on his 60cm QB):

[RBW] Re: RIV status of 650; and big frames .

2010-08-17 Thread rperks
Counter point on tire size and aesthetics, http://www.flickr.com/photos/rperks1/4849743094/in/set-72157622761433374/ best shot I have with the fenders on. I can ride anything in my region on or off road with the 42mm tires, they just ride like truck retreads. Although you can crush bottles with

[RBW] Re: RIV status of 650; and big frames .

2010-08-17 Thread EricP
Having been on that ride, I can attest to the bike's beauty. Unfortunately, don't have a good photo of it to add. Yes, a reflector would be a nice add on, but the integrated light makes up for that in my opinion. Part of me wishes for a larger 650B bike again. (Esteban has the one I tried to

[RBW] Re: RIV status of 650; and big frames .

2010-08-17 Thread Earl Grey
What a difference 10 months make. Last October I ordered my Sam, and being between the 52 and the 56, I ordered the 56, partly because my 19 year old other bike (Fisher Sphinx monster cross) is decidedly too small (17!), and Grant was encouraging me to go big. But I also live in Thailand, and

[RBW] Re: RIV status of 650; and big frames .

2010-08-17 Thread Esteban
Eric's old Kogswell really gets me (and the groceries and kids) around! 650B city bike, I've found, takes the cake (along with the lumps and bumps). http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/4590765200/ If Anthony at Longleaf can pull together reliable deliver of his version of the P/R, there

[RBW] Re: RIV status of 650; and big frames .

2010-08-16 Thread William
I gotta get me one of those 58cm 650B Hilsens. Saving up the pennies. On Aug 16, 9:40 am, grant grant...@gmail.com wrote: We stock ten 650B tires, which -- does anybody stock more? As many? At least four bike models have 650B wheels. We stopped making biggies in 650, because the head tubes

Re: [RBW] Re: RIV status of 650; and big frames .

2010-08-16 Thread Bruce
-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, August 16, 2010 1:56:17 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: RIV status of 650; and big frames . I gotta get me one of those 58cm 650B Hilsens. Saving up the pennies. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch

[RBW] Re: RIV status of 650; and big frames .

2010-08-16 Thread Tim McNamara
On Aug 16, 2010, at 11:40 AM, grant wrote: I'm getting off-track here, but the point is, the 650B bikes don't seem to be able to compete against the 700s. Bingo. 650B is a weird even unheard-of size for 99.163% of the US bike-buying public. People will be afraid they'll be stranded with

Re: [RBW] Re: RIV status of 650; and big frames .

2010-08-16 Thread Rob Harrison
LOL, well, being part of the 0.837% is where I have resided for most of my working life as a green architect, so I guess it's only fitting I ride a 62cm 650B bicycle. Perhaps by the time I order my custom randoneause there will be lightweight, supple 700 x 38 tires, or I will have lost 30

[RBW] Re: RIV status of 650; and big frames .

2010-08-16 Thread Tim McNamara
On Aug 16, 2010, at 6:27 PM, Rob Harrison wrote: On Aug 16, 2010, at 4:07 PM, Tim McNamara wrote: Bingo. 650B is a weird even unheard-of size for 99.163% of the US bike-buying public. People will be afraid they'll be stranded with a bike they can't get tires for. LOL, well, being part