I don't know the answer to your question but I wish I would have bought one
when I had the chance and I probably will when a silver one comes up for
sale. Patience is something I struggle with but one will pop up in time.
Does anybody know if Riv plans on continuing the Joe? You'd think they
wo
I didn't think that many Joe's were up for sale. At least one less now
because I've decided to not sell mine.
The way this bike treats me on the kinds of roads and trails I ride on, I
felt that I'm going to regret not having it even if frequency of me going
out for rides were to be once a mont
On Sunday, August 6, 2017 at 8:44:53 AM UTC-7, Peter Turskovitch wrote:
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> Hi Bill, sorry if the question seems ignorant. I don't know a ton about
> bike geometry.
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> Can't you put upright bars on any bike? Lots of bikes take 2" tires. And
> what effect do the chainstays have?
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You general
Hi Peter,
I am not speaking for or stepping in for Bill but I do know he has bikes
and miles to ride (see another post)!
Bike geometry is one of those "simply complex" things and has been
discussed for years, probably as long as modern bikes have existed. I
would say read up on geometry decis
Hi Bill, sorry if the question seems ignorant. I don't know a ton about
bike geometry.
Can't you put upright bars on any bike? Lots of bikes take 2" tires. And
what effect do the chainstays have?
On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 3:24:05 AM UTC+2, Bill Lindsay wrote:
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> Peter asked me to explain
If you neglect the chainstays there are similar bikes. For instance my Vaya
can do everything you mentioned but approaches from a different
perspective. Unique is not synonymous with identical...
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Peter asked me to explain what I find unique about the Joe Appaloosa. I think
it's self-evident, but ok
List all the loaded touring bikes purpose built for upright bars, designed to
take 29x2.0 tires plus fenders, with >50 cm chainstays.
There is one bike on that list.
Bill
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Hi Bill, can you expand on what you find unique about the bike?
Peter
On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 11:34:00 PM UTC+2, Bill Lindsay wrote:
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> Thanks for playing along Stuart. For the record, I think the LHT is a
> very good bike.
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> I wonder what the resale value of these Rosco Bubbe mini-
Hugh
Very well stated, thanks for the insights
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all of this was very well said.
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I've sold all my Rivendell's excluding my wife's Betty Foy, and that may
hit the block too. I'll comment on my reason's for selling which has
nothing to do with anyone else's experience with owning then selling their
Rivendell's. My first Riv was an A.H.H and that was the last to go because
it
i've had a lot of rivs over the past year - sam, chev, hunq, joe appaloosa,
soma san marcos. for me it was about fit i always seemed to fall right in
between. so i sold everything and got a custom. while i was waiting for the
custom, i ordered the appaloosa and figured if it doesn't work i can j
I'd love to have a Scorcher, but they rarely change hands anymore. The bike has
become almost a myth.
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I always thought those Ibis Scorchers were cool-looking bikes when they
came out in the 90s
On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 6:07:56 AM UTC-5, Mark in Beacon wrote:
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> I imagine another factor here is that we are looking at a certain subset
> of Rivendell owner, one who belongs to this RBW group.
I imagine another factor here is that we are looking at a certain subset of
Rivendell owner, one who belongs to this RBW group. Kind of a concentrated,
tiny niche within a tiny, microscopic niche. Being a rabid Rivendell fan
and hooked in to the ongoing creation process through social media and
1. As many have said, most people bought them never having ridden one.
2. Price point was great from Riv, resale values good enough to recover a
decent chunk to continue bike experimenting.
3. Riv is coming out with lots of interesting and cheap (er) designs at the
same time with the Clem's, Ro
Glad to hear it, Brad! It's a nice bike and I miss it occasionally, but there's
always more Rivs in the sea. She got a nice Appaloosa and I'm getting a nice
CLEM L (with low stepover for my creaky old bones), so everybody wins!
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> I priced it at a number I could live with, and someone offered to pay it
> without haggling.
My wife bought Joe's Appaloosa and she LOVES it.
Brad
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Yes, the 'still mostly new condition with nice parts' resale value played an
huge part in my Appa selling. I priced it at a number I could live with, and
someone offered to pay it without haggling. Otherwise it would still be in my
apartment.
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I have one up for sale. It is a solid, beautiful, fun bike. Can be
configured in many, many ways. My reason for selling is not getting enough
chances to ride it. Looking forward to owning one again (or whatever
version Riv might have by then) after couple of years when situation
changes (d
Thanks for playing along Stuart. For the record, I think the LHT is a very
good bike.
I wonder what the resale value of these Rosco Bubbe mini-runs will be? I
have one and will soon have two of them. My blue Rosco Road liftatube
frame was $925. In 10 years, will it be worth $400? $700?
I duly concede to Bill that my comparisons may have been over-generalized.
FWIW, I've ridden an unloaded LHT (rented for a week in Portland) and
thought it was plenty fun, and granted it was two years ago but I would say
it was very similar to riding my Joe now.
Back to the topic, and I'm pre
+1 on Stuart's comment. One of the challenging things about a Rivendell is
that many of us must purchase them sight unseen. While this may be
perfectly acceptable for aesthetics (or else we wouldn't buy them in the
first place) or fit (I trust that the folks at Riv know their bikes), the
ride q
I tend to agree with Bill. I used to own a Trucker. Good bike, but it felt dead
without a load, and the wheelbase was 460, I believe, not the Appaloosa's 535
(if I'm remembering right). Huge Difference. I ride my Appaloosa with drops
about an inch above the saddle. Hard to get the Trucker front
Stuart says the Appaloosa is a nicer, upright Surly Long Haul Trucker. To
prove his point he attached photos of two 26" wheel Surly Long Haul
Truckers, one with rim brakes and one with disc brakes, both with drop
bars.
I concede the point with a proviso: If your bike-category-buckets are so
I also bought a Hunquapillar and still on the fence about keeping it. I
find my AR a little more comfortable but sure do enjoy the larger tires on
our bony descents here in the White Mtns Steve
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+1. I bought a Hunq and it was way more bike than I ever needed for the
riding I do. I sold it. Thankfully I had and still have, my AHHH. It does
everything I need.
On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 2:23:46 PM UTC-4, John G. wrote:
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> Bob asked: "What are the reasons anyone sells a bike that they
Bob asked: "What are the reasons anyone sells a bike that they recently
bought, within a year say? Did they get swept up in dreaming of a type of
riding they don't really do? Was it too much to reasonably afford? Was it
bought without enough research or the research misled? Did another new,
I thought the LHT was sort of an Atlantis copy?
On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 1:55:24 PM UTC-4, Stuart Lovinggood wrote:
> A lot, maybe not most, of people buy Rivs sight unseen. And because most
> people have only ever ridden bikes with shorter wheelbases, it's not
> necessarily clear exactly
Please, let's not make this into a "what's unique and what's not" kinda
thing since every bike is unique and one of a kind. It's just we're so
used to devaluing what IS, as if "over there is the One special
bike/thing", but not right here . That's like looking to the skies for a
nice pi
+1 and absolutely agreed with Bill's comments...
I rode my Joe on a group ride last night and it was perfect. Fast enough,
completely comfortable, able to handle roads and trails, and (with good
lights) enabled an absolutely beautiful and fun ride home in the dark on a
perfect summer night. N
A lot, maybe not most, of people buy Rivs sight unseen. And because most people
have only ever ridden bikes with shorter wheelbases, it's not necessarily clear
exactly how a longer one will affect handling, especially because everyone's
bodies and abilities are different. I would say it all ulti
I reject the assertion that 'so many' are being sold. That said, I sold
one.
The reason I sold my 55 Appaloosa is a longish story and I'm too
long-winded as it is. The short reason is that the Appaloosa wasn't
expensive enough. It is awesome and perfect, but not expensive enough.
The qu
I think we live in a time where many other companies are now making
gravel/tour/adventurey bikes. Competetion in that niche is high, as is the rate
of shiny new things being shown to people.
I hear you on the sluggish feel. I sometimes feel that on my hunqapillar. Then
I load it up, or take it
I should've jumped on a hi-ho silver. Anyone not want their 55?
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I'm afraid that I can't help you on this one. I have a 2017 and own quite
a few bikes and the Joe would be among the very last to be sold.
On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 7:45:22 PM UTC-4, Singlespeed Johnny wrote:
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> i accidentally hijacked a for sale thread asking this and am sorry for
> tha
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