Lynn wrote:
Is there a reason we can't do something like this for graphic novels and the
like:
1 volume of illustrations ; some color or 138 pages of illustrations ; some
color
I haven't gone through the RDA rules in depth like many of you, but 3.4.12.1
says to give the number of units
The fact that RDA rules create a conundrum like this regarding what should be a
simple line of description has got to be one of the most ridiculous examples of
why this whole set of rules will be just another (big) nail in our professional
coffins. The public doesn't want to be confused with
20.08.2013 15:07, Mitchell, Michael:
The fact that RDA rules create a conundrum like this regarding what
should be a simple line of description has got to be one of the most
ridiculous examples of why this whole set of rules will be just
another (big) nail in our professional coffins. The public
I have many books to rush catalog, all of which are custom editions for classes
taught at Kent State University. I’m taking the record for the full textbook
and deriving an original record for the custom edition. I’d like to add a 776
to link the full textbook to the custom edition. I’m not
I am not sue if the custom edition in your email means a different edition
or a different physical form. If it is a different edition, I would use
775. If it is a different physical form, I would use 776.
Hopefully it helps :-)
Joan Wang
Illinois Heartland Library System
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013
775! Of course! Thanks.
What would you suggest for the wording of the subfield i?
Sevim McCutcheon
Catalog Librarian, Assoc. Prof.
Kent State University Libraries
330-672-1703
lmccu...@kent.edu
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Hear, hear!
Karen Nipps
Head, Rare Book Team
Houghton Library
Harvard University
Cambridge, MA 02138
Phone: 617-496-9190
FAX: 617-495-1376
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If you want to link full textbook to the custom edition, I think that $i
custom edition in 775 field should be OK. Does custom edition appear on the
source as well as the record?
If you want to use a more specific relationship term, the relationship
seems to be at the expression instead of work
Michael,
I absolutely see your point. The other day, a colleague of mine said to
me, after reading this thread: Why must something which used to be
quite simple become so complicated now? And I wholeheartedly agreed
with her.
The main reason I am so insistent is that we simply must have a
Adaptation in RDA seems to mean the modification would result in another
literary form.
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Aaron Smith aaronkaysm...@gmail.comwrote:
I might suggest Adaptation of: ...
It seems that would cover both excerpts and modifications.
A -
Aaron Smith
Assistant
I feel that the modification in your case more likes a revision.
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Joan Wang jw...@illinoisheartland.orgwrote:
Adaptation in RDA seems to mean the modification would result in another
literary form.
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Aaron Smith
Lynn Gates posted:
Is there a reason we can't do something like this for graphic novels and
the like:
1 volume of illustrations ; some color or 138 pages of illustrations ; some
color
Perhaps because the unit name for a volume with page numbers is pages?
I would prefer for a graphic novel:
Heidrun Wiesenmuller wrote (in part):
Personally, I'm much in favour of the policy of the British Library and
Cambridge University Library: If I've understood correctly, they simply
go on using chiefly and all, ignoring the restrictions to 7.15.
Sad to say, I had completely missed the
Having dealt with a number of these in the past (although I haven’t done any
using RDA), I would say that generally these are excerpts, although you should
check to see what any front matter says. Often the pagination is not changed,
but sections are dropped, so that pagination may not be
What would you suggest for the wording of the subfield i?
More important the the 775$z ,I would think, would be a 250
transcribed or supplied which makes it clear that the adaptation is
for a particular campus.
Also, the 300 would have to be adapted to reflect omitted pages.
Perhaps a fuller $z
On the topic of improving the idea of Extent, this discussion paper is on the
right track:
http://www.rda-jsc.org/docs/6JSC-ALA-Discussion-1.pdf
The main problem has its source in cramming too many overlapping ideas into the
300$a field. There are different things being counted.
Extent of
I am with you until, The other benefit to treating Pagination as a
separate element is that it's unique in that the measurement isn't usually
based on the actual number of pages, but on the recording of the last
numbered page.
How would this be different from recording the complete sequences of
Just a note: And they wonder why we can't get things through faster.
Only because, we want quality cataloging--bless you-- and not automatic hit
that button cataloging.
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 7:37 AM, MCCUTCHEON, SEVIM lmccu...@kent.eduwrote:
I have many books to rush catalog, all of which
Use subelements under Pagination.
Example of similar situation:
Element: Dimensions
SubElement: Dimensions of Map, Etc.
SubElement: Dimensions of Still Image
Thomas Brenndorfer
Guelph Public Library
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Hi there,
Firstly apologies if the question has been previously discussed.
We are currently having a discussion about recording the number of unnumbered
plates in the extent field (MARC 300). The RDA toolkit has us confused on this.
Previously under AACR2 rules, if we had a book with
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[RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Sian Woolcock
[sian.woolc...@adelaide.edu.au]
Sent: August-20-13 8:45 PM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: [RDA-L] recording on unnumbered
Sian Woolcock posted:
300 - - a 202 pages, 16 pages of plates : b ill. ; c 21 cm.
I would suggest you stop agonizing over what RDA says, and record the
data your patrons would find useful. You can't be faulted for
exceeding core requirements.
Attempting to following the exact wording of RDA
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