Re: [RE-wrenches] Ni-Fe update?

2018-11-22 Thread Dan Fink
Jay' about 2 gallons every 40 days. Dan Fink Professor of Solar Energy Technology, Ecotech Institute IREC Certified Instructor™ for: ~ PV Installation Professional ~ Small Wind Installer Executive Director, Buckville Energy NABCEP Registered Continuing Education Providers™ NABCEP PV Associate

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ni-Fe update?

2018-11-22 Thread Kienan Maxfield
dso...@hotmail.com> (801) 477-0-SUN (477-0786) (801) 631-5584 (Cell) From: RE-wrenches on behalf of Jay Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2018 8:42 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Ni-Fe update? Hi Dan and Kienan I’m curious how much water you are

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ni-Fe update?

2018-11-22 Thread Jay
Hi Dan and Kienan I’m curious how much water you are adding monthly? Jay Peltz Power. > On Nov 22, 2018, at 7:08 AM, Dan Fink wrote: > > Wrenches; I have run my house on 12 volt NiFe batteries for 3 years now. I > was going to write a long essay, but Kienen beat me to it. It's an

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ni-Fe update?

2018-11-22 Thread Dan Fink
Wrenches; I have run my house on 12 volt NiFe batteries for 3 years now. I was going to write a long essay, but Kienen beat me to it. It's an excellent analysis, I agree with each of his bullet points. All I'll add is that the batteries charge with decent efficiency up to 80% SOC. To get that

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ni-Fe update?

2018-11-21 Thread Kienan Maxfield
0-SUN (477-0786) (801) 631-5584 (Cell) From: RE-wrenches on behalf of jerrysgarage01 Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2018 8:30 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Ni-Fe update? Wrenches I have used Iron Edison Batteries and 12 volts is tough but l have ha

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ni-Fe update?

2018-11-21 Thread jay
As we are talking about the IronEdison batteries. I checked their site about lithium and they claim to have a BMS that will communicate with Outback. I didn’t think anybody had comm with OB? Can anyone confirm that? jay Peltz power > On Nov 21, 2018, at 11:36 AM, Ken Schaal wrote: > > Hey

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ni-Fe update?

2018-11-21 Thread jay
HI Ray, I’ll add that they use lots of water requiring lots of maintenance. Their efficiency is between 70 and 80%. The reason that the railroad and telecomm have used them in remote applications is that chemistry doesn’t care about cold or hot. And given that they cost (95%) almost as much

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ni-Fe update?

2018-11-21 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
IE has been good with their LFP and Schneider spread sheet data for easy system config. I can't see Nife anymore. Gobble Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar "we go where powerlines don't" http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/ [1] e-mail offgridso...@sti.net [2] text 209 813 0060 On Wed, 21 Nov 2018

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ni-Fe update?

2018-11-21 Thread jerrysgarage01
and the batteries don't like it to cold either.Jerry Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Original message From: Ken Schaal Date: 11/21/18 11:36 AM (GMT-08:00) To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Ni-Fe update? Hey alexis.Any thoughts regarding these comments about Ni

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ni-Fe update?

2018-11-21 Thread Darryl Thayer
I concur with the other writers. They have low charge efficiency, Although that is not a killer. the voltages are as David says, but the discharge drops below 1.2 volts with surges. I have heard of a battery fire with one set, perhaps it was due to low water as David suggest. They seem to need

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ni-Fe update?

2018-11-21 Thread Ken Schaal
Hey alexis. Any thoughts regarding these comments about Ni-fi batteries? Ur running them DC direct? Hope all is well. Ken On Wed, Nov 21, 2018, 2:25 PM David Katz AEE Solar sold NiFe batteries from Russia in the late 1990s. They last a > long time but were hard to use with inverters. A 12 volt

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ni-Fe update?

2018-11-21 Thread David Katz
AEE Solar sold NiFe batteries from Russia in the late 1990s. They last a long time but were hard to use with inverters. A 12 volt pack has 10 cells. Each cell reaches full charge at 1.7 volts so the pack would be at 17 volts. that is 68 volts in a 48 volt pack. inverters turn off for

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ni-Fe update?

2018-11-21 Thread Ray
Charge efficiency is really low,  Charging parameters can be hard to get right, Voltage is not stable under heavy loads, and they are really expensive to boot.  I've never sold them for these reasons, but I have replaced some sets that customers were unhappy with.  They seem to work OK, only

[RE-wrenches] Ni-Fe update?

2018-11-21 Thread dan
Hi Guys, I have a potential customer inquiring about installing a pre packaged Iron Edison system.. I recall hearing strange stories about Ni-Fe batteries but don't recall the specifics. I have done a few searches with mixed results.. And have friends advising I run like a Rabbit.. Thought I'd run