Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback inverter-generator question

2017-12-18 Thread jay
A mate 3 will work with any OB model. I’ve got one on my 14 year old vfx jay > On Dec 17, 2017, at 11:44 AM, Sindelar Solar wrote: > > Ron, > > I agree with Jerry here, and will add a bit more. I'll venture that neither > generator is being seriously hurt, but

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback inverter-generator question

2017-12-17 Thread Sindelar Solar
Ron, I agree with Jerry here, and will add a bit more. I'll venture that neither generator is being seriously hurt, but neither is what's happening good for them. This is a case where more specific info is needed to diagnose the problem remotely. VFX or VFXR? Which specific Honda generator?

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback inverter generator question

2017-12-17 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
..@lists.re-wrenches.org] On > Behalf Of Ray > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 7:32 PM > To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback inverter generator question > > They need to add a transformer to operate the generator at full power. As > Jer

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback inverter generator question

2017-12-17 Thread Chris Worcester
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback inverter generator question They need to add a transformer to operate the generator at full power. As Jerry noted, running at 120 vac, they are only pulling off one leg of the generator. This unequal loading can damage the generator. I'm guessing they damaged

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback inverter generator question

2017-12-16 Thread Darryl Thayer
Hi Chris I have had a similar experience. This was an off-grid home, built in 2003, the generator a Honda construction generator rated 6.5 kW. The batteries were Rolls 350 AH, 6-volt, L-16. The inverter Outback FX3024. The batteries lasted only 7 years, then replaced with a second set similar

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback inverter generator question

2017-12-16 Thread Ray
They need to add a transformer to operate the generator at full power.  As Jerry noted, running at 120 vac, they are only pulling off one leg of the generator.  This unequal loading can damage the generator.  I'm guessing they damaged both Hondas.  A transformer will allow the generator to

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback inverter generator question

2017-12-16 Thread Jerry Shafer
Ron A 5 k 120/240 genny pushing a 24 volt 3500 watt sounds way over kill and only pushing one leg only will result in issues, have not seen them with hondas but have with others. No mate means no programming so it might be over throttling the little inverter. You did not say anything about the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback inverter generator question

2017-12-16 Thread Chris Worcester
ch...@solarwindworks.com From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Wallace Stahle Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 2:17 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback inverter generator question Hi Ron, An off list question posed to me asked

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback inverter generator question

2017-08-13 Thread Wallace Stahle
Hi Ron, An off list question posed to me asked how the non PFC charger could impact the results I described. I dont actually have a good answer for that. I simply see the bad results from the interaction of the Honda AVR and the VFX charger and the normal charging results of the MS2812 with

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback inverter generator question

2017-08-13 Thread Ron Young
Hi Dave, I’m trying to get the customer to do a manual AC bypass but have to be careful about going over the clients technical ability to the point where he will cause more problems. Dealing with the vagaries of peoples choices is not always so cut and dried unfortunately. This client has money

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback inverter generator question

2017-08-13 Thread Ron Young
Thanks Wallace, the thing is, the VFX3524 is not a cheap inverter and should perform well with a generator. However with the customer reporting his concerns about high heat in the inverter and now these problems I’m not sure where to pin the problem. I’ll see if he will check the inverter and

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback inverter generator question

2017-08-13 Thread Wallace Stahle
I would look at the generator output voltage with charger in standby. Oops no mate = no control. Find a way to power loads directly and monitor gen voltage. With true RMS meter. Check inverter output voltage alone. Then check AC voltage while trying to charge. I would suggest the AVR (auto

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback inverter generator question

2017-08-13 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
Agree Dan if this is troubleshooting an installation done by someone else. On the other hand, it is our responsibility at the design phase to not even give the option of not having good Com's and AC bypass switching. The AC by pass would tell you quite a bit here about if the generator, the load,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback inverter generator question

2017-08-13 Thread Dan Fink
For situations like these, unfortunately I've found that it's very handy to keep a remote each for Outback, Magnum and Conext in the troubleshooting tool bag. Without a Mate (preferably a Mate 3) you are driving the highway with a tarp over your windshield, and have to navigate by blinky colored

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback inverter generator question

2017-08-13 Thread Tump
Make sure that the client has the AUTO idle set to OFF! > On Aug 12, 2017, at 8:32 PM, Ron Young wrote: > > Have a client where I recently installed an Outback VFX3524 inverter in June. > He’s using a Honda generator and has recently started having issues. He has >

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback inverter generator question

2017-08-13 Thread Ron Young
Unfortunately this is a bare bones setup, no bypass. The generator is a EM5000SX. I know there have been issues in the past with a certain model of Honda but not sure about this one. Ron > On Aug 12, 2017, at 7:48 PM, Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar > wrote: > > If the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback inverter generator question

2017-08-12 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
If the install has an AC bypass, he should use this to troubleshoot. Ac bypass takes the inverter/charger out of the loop. --Dave > Have a client where I recently installed an Outback VFX3524 inverter in > June. He’s using a Honda generator and has recently started having > issues. He has been

[RE-wrenches] Outback inverter generator question

2017-08-12 Thread Ron Young
Have a client where I recently installed an Outback VFX3524 inverter in June. He’s using a Honda generator and has recently started having issues. He has been complaining that the inverter seems to be running hot but I believe this is because he doesn’t have good ventilation around it. He is