Steve,
No more than for a D-star capable rig, either mobile or portable. Used
Astro Sabers go for anywhere from $150 for a basic 16 channel model to
$700 for a full blown 255 channel model with display and keypad. EF
Johnson 5100's can be had for about $500 used (and they are front panel
It shouldn't cost anymore for an IMBE P25 board to be added than for
the AMBE D-star add-in boards. Different Vocoder, but the licensing
from DVSI for the manufactures should be the same. All of them have
the ability to do IMBE on the commercial side, so it shouldn't be that
difficult or
I finnally got a chance to listen to a D-Star transmission. I came to
the conclusion that D-Star sucks on paper as well as in practice.
Sure, It saves bandwidth, but is it really worth the effort? Look at
how well that practice has worked for the cellular industry.
It might not be so bad if it
I ran an AOR DV unit thru a plain old 2M voice repeater a few years ago.
Not withstanding the faults with the AOR like sync and re-entry, the audio
is GREATTT. They do lots of digital enhancements and to my poor ears
the fidelity is just awesome, and their 36 carrier scheme will fit into a
I wanted to thank everybody for the overwhelming response (both on-
and off-list) that I got to my question. As usual, this group is a
great pool of knowledge.
-Alex
Thanks for the info guys,
Yeah, the receivers that I have are actually stamped with TLE8032B.
This is stamped near where the channel element plug into the board. On
the other side of the board,(the side visible when the board is
mounted in the chassis) the number TE1203BA is stamped. According to
Well, even a single-user repeater has to ID if I read the regs
correctly. However, since I would be ID'ing my transmissions, I would
really only need remote ID coming back out from my base to h/t, and
only I would hear it.
I've already got both my rigs running thru an MFJ916 diplexer/duplexer
Thank you for the responses to the Tuning By Ear thread.
Next time I'll try with the dummy load for sure.
Will get the duplexer to a spectrum analyzer soon.
As of today though, I have a more pressing problem.
I discovered that the antenna on what will be the new site (water
tower) is a custom DB
Hello all,
Does anyone have a manual or information on an SSC 836AA
repeater controller? It also has the following on the PCB:
T-A2-1761-4 if it makes any difference...
Also, has anyone configured a TAIT T800 Base Station/repeater for use
as a repeater?
thanks,
Andreas - 5B8AP
Well considering that they have P25 capable scanners at decent, and falling,
prices, P25 for ham rigs is doable. But they seem intent on pushing the D-Star
standard on us... when in my eyes P25 is a far better choice. But I see it as a
far better choice in part because it means surplus gear is
Bryon Jeffers K0BSJ wrote:
Too many acronyms...
Bryon Jeffers KØBSJ
Rgr that!
;cD
--
Jim Barbour
WD8CHL
Steve Bosshard (NU5D) wrote:
Until P25 radios become ham affordable I don't think they will be
mainstream
ham radio. I believe there is still a pretty hefty payment to Moto for use
of the P25 standard, but I may be wrong.
Steve NU5D
Hi, Steve,
I think you're right, but I don't see that
Bob Dengler wrote:
At 4/24/2007 05:17 PM, you wrote:
I don't know. Like any other radio gear it depends on the brand, model,
and how badly the seller wants to sell I guess. Motorola isn't the only
maker offering P25 digital audio capable radios (we'll assume CAI/IMBE
compatible). Icom,
Sorry guys, I forgot to mention that I was looking for a 220
receiver.
Thanks,
Joel, NN6J
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bill Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Did I miss it - or has anybody asked him what band he wants this
receiver on
?
CBS Bill
anpap wrote:
Hello all,
Does anyone have a manual or information on an SSC 836AA
repeater controller? It also has the following on the PCB:
T-A2-1761-4 if it makes any difference...
Was this in the Tait station you mentioned? I ask because I think this
is not a repeater controller, but a
In a message dated 4/25/2007 9:07:26 AM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But I just purchased a VHF Astro Saber on Ebay for under $350... 255 channel,
6w, P25 and analog. I have purchased UHF Astro sabers for under $125 shopping
around.
Be very careful when purchasing any
VSLEP, AEGIS and Pro-Voice aren't any different than D-Star is at this
point and can be used just as any other digital mode on the ham bands.
You just have to have another radio programmed for that protocol to
receive it. Under that logic, the AOR Digital voice units should not
be used on
anpap wrote:
Hello all,
Does anyone have a manual or information on an SSC 836AA
repeater controller? It also has the following on the PCB:
T-A2-1761-4 if it makes any difference...
Also, has anyone configured a TAIT T800 Base Station/repeater for use
as a repeater?
thanks,
Andreas - 5B8AP
Joel,
220 is no problem with either a Mastr II or Micor solution. I have some of
the GE remote receivers and Motorola Spectra-TAC receivers the guys have
been talking about. We can fix you up with one. The biggest thing right now
is to get your $$$ back from Spectrum.
Good luck.
Scott
Scott
The AOR digital voice units use a published open protocol developed by Charles,
G4GUO.
Gary
Dan Blasberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Under that logic, the AOR Digital voice units should not
be used on the ham bands because they only work with other AOR units (not an
open standard).
Dan
Sorry to thread jump but do you have rack mount bases and or repeaters
that you can convert as well or just the mobiles?
On 4/25/07, Scott Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Joel,
220 is no problem with either a Mastr II or Micor solution. I have some of
the GE remote receivers and Motorola
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, DCFluX wrote:
It might not be so bad if it wasn't for the vocoder, But if I wan't to
listen to a 'Speak And Spell' (tm) I will go to a thrift store or
interact with the my vintage RC-850 repeater controller.
Hrm. I might have to fire up a speak spell to record a ID. :)
On Tue, 24 Apr 2007, Steve Bosshard (NU5D) wrote:
Took a couple of antique GE Phoenix SX mobile radios. Programmed for
442.0/ 447.0. With TOT. Carrier Squelch - Took Receiver Un Squelched
lead to PTT thru a one transistor keying transistor.
Took VOL / SQ Hi and ran it thru a single
I've answered my own question!!
With some testing, I found the 264 will perform better on the 147.36
system than the 224.. at least VSWR-wise.
So, I'll use my 264.
Question still remains
Mounted on the side of a water tower,
what is the best pattern of the 4 bays?
Omni, directional to
That receiver should work down at 448 with no mods
required.
Bob M.
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--- twoway_tech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for the info guys,
Yeah, the receivers that I have are actually stamped
with TLE8032B.
This is stamped near where the channel element plug
into the board. On
the other
Wrong. If it's not an open protocol, it's not legal in the ham band.
If AOR's is not an open standard, it too would not be legal.
The fact that a unit only works with other like units does not matter.
After all, D-Star only talks with D-Star, and P25 with P25.
Joe M.
Dan Blasberg wrote:
In a message dated 4/25/2007 2:21:27 PM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Took a couple of antique GE Phoenix SX mobile radios. Programmed for
442.0/ 447.0. With TOT. Carrier Squelch - Took Receiver Un Squelched
lead to PTT thru a one transistor keying transistor.
Took
Matt,
What exactly are you looking for. I have plenty of stations around here that
can be converted. It's just not as easy to ship a station as it is to ship
mobiles. The RX and TX are no problem, it's the power supplies that are not
cheap to ship.
I have LOTS of Micor stations and 1 GE mastr
mch wrote:
Wrong. If it's not an open protocol, it's not legal in the ham band.
If AOR's is not an open standard, it too would not be legal.
The fact that a unit only works with other like units does not matter.
After all, D-Star only talks with D-Star, and P25 with P25.
Joe M.
So
* mch [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007 Apr 25 15:33 -0500]:
Wrong. If it's not an open protocol, it's not legal in the ham band.
Here is the relevant portion for FCC jurisdictions:
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§97.309 RTTY and data emission codes.
(b) Where authorized by §§ 97.305(c) and 97.307(f) of this part, a
station
As I just posted, it seems even encryption is no longer prohibited.
My reply was based on the rules as they existed a year ago. They
changed. See my recent post for details.
Joe M.
Jim B. wrote:
mch wrote:
Wrong. If it's not an open protocol, it's not legal in the ham band.
If AOR's is
I never suggested P25 was not legal.
The rule I was talking about seems to have been axed last year, when the
FCC ammended, among other rules:
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* 97.113(a)(4) to prohibit amateur stations exchanging messages with
amateur stations in other countries from
The FCC does not consider digitized audio such as P25 or D-Star digitized
audio to be a data emission instead they consider it to be phone (I'm
referring to voice only transmissions). The C4FM modulation type currently
used with phase I 12.5Khz P25 voice signals is still FM and while it has a
hi
i have some uhf hardware and my qth is in Quebec,Canada
i could mail them too via Poste Canada
1: 2x Sinclair Combiner C3024 ,414.4625 mhz and the other one at 419.205
. $250 USD each
2:2x Sinclair Multicouper Q3220e ,,one at 414mhz-419.oomh
the other 419.7625-414.7025 $300.00
Well I played around a little this afternoon and placed a couple of back to
back diodes between the discriminator and the tx deviation pot on the
phoenixs. There is slight overshoot now on the waveform, but it seems to
work just fine on voice. The ID Text must be on the front end of each
Larry,
The element was re-rocked/calibrated/compensated/etc by ICM
This is why I
was wondering if it might be worth the effort to do the cap change to the
receiver board.
Mark N9WYS
_
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of larryjspammenot
Who did you order
In Kevin's article he gives the metering test point readings
for the local oscillator/multipler chain.. If you measure
your board you just might find a low reading somewhere
and low injection = low receive sensitivity.
At 05:23 PM 04/25/07, you wrote:
Larry,
The element was
You sent the whole receiver section? (Sounding like Bluto Blutarski in
Aminal House
) Whatd that cost you, if I may ask??
_
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was just an idea - at 449.55, it should still have very good sensitivity,
as if it
Actually, the FCC (via letter from Bill Cross) has recently (within the
last year) declared a D-Star repeater to be specifically DATA, and
subject only to the same rules as are used for other digital stations
and digipeaters.
They have said they are not subject to the same rules as voice
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Ritter - N5VAV
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When experimenting with the 264 today, I noticed the holes in the
mast for the coax are all cut on the same side of the mast! I tried
to rotate the elements 90 degrees, but I couldn't seem to make them
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bob Dengler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
What would be far more interesting to me would be for one of the
ham
manufacturers to offer a P25 user radio. How much would adding
the vocoder
add to the cost of a current analog FM model? If it's comparable
You can modify the DB-224 antenna to bring it down from the 155 mHz
area to the ham band by adding two inches of tubing to each end of each
element. I use tubing from a scrapped TV antenna and flatten it where
I wrap it around the bottom and top of each loop and secure it with a
screw through
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