Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeating D-Star

2007-04-27 Thread George Henry
shouldn't work. George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413 - Original Message - From: hwingate [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 7:47 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeating D-Star I have often wondered just how diffucult it would to be to build a D

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeating D-Star

2007-04-27 Thread laner1
You'd absolutely, ABSOLUTELY limit the energy you emit (the frequency converted input signal) to fit within the allowable channel you're repeater/transponder is coordinated. That's no different with the FM brand of repeater. You're responsible for your output. The IF is where you'd probably

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeating D-Star

2007-04-27 Thread n6lrv
There's one reason- they would have to purchase rights to the voice decoder designs from DVSI. D-Star is still young so other manufacturers may eventually jump on board once they convince themselves that the upfront engineering and intellectual costs will be worthwhile. By the way, as if there

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeating D-Star

2007-04-27 Thread George Henry
/ WQGJ413 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Apr 27, 2007 10:35 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeating D-Star There's one reason- they would have to purchase rights to the voice decoder designs from DVSI. D-Star is still young so

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeating D-Star

2007-04-27 Thread Gary
You'll have to check with AOR on that one. For all we know whatever contract they may have with DVSI may be specific to the modem. I figured two years ago when they introduced the AR-ONE that they would include some decoders, or an expansion port for an option card, or maybe even trunking but

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeating D-Star

2007-04-27 Thread Steve Bosshard (NU5D)
I don't think you will be able to just plug binary data into a radio transmitter unless there is a made for the purpose FSK input for binary data that would support the DSTAR data rate. Steve On 4/27/07, Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You'll have to check with AOR on that one. For all we know

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeating D-Star

2007-04-26 Thread DCFluX
What do you guys know about the AOR digital modems? I understand that is an open protocol. Seems a little expensive, but if it sounds good maybe we can build some kind of cheap encoder/decoder? On 4/25/07, Bob Witte K0NR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bob

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeating D-Star

2007-04-26 Thread hwingate
I have often wondered just how diffucult it would to be to build a D-Star system around a Micor or M2. D-Star is mostly open protocol (except for the software which is propriatry to Icom), the AMBE vocoder chips are available from the manufacturer, and GMSK modem chips are also available. Seems

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeating D-Star

2007-04-26 Thread Steven Samuel Bosshard \(NU5D\)
I have often wondered just how diffucult it would to be to build a D-Star system around a Micor or M2. D-Star is mostly open I have given thought to buying the controller or at least getting a manual to see if I could use Icom logic with brand X radio. There does not seem to be much info that I

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeating D-Star

2007-04-26 Thread Rod Lane
I would hate to see your insightful comment missed. I haven't seen anyone else pick up on the part of your message about the linear transponder. If someone wants to pass many different modes through a repeater, you can't do better than a transponder. I've been on the transmitting and receiving

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeating D-Star

2007-04-26 Thread mch
There used to be Linear Translators that were land based. There was one around the Pittsburgh area. I'm sure somewhere there are a few left, but they are few and far between. Joe M. Rod Lane wrote: I would hate to see your insightful comment missed. I haven't seen anyone else pick up on the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeating D-Star

2007-04-26 Thread Jeff DePolo
... --- Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rod Lane Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 11:02 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeating D-Star I would

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeating D-Star

2007-04-26 Thread Rod Lane
Do you know what gear they were using? I think I do remember using one near Indio, CA years ago, and it sounded great. Just like simplex (which it should.) 73 de N1FNE --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, mch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There used to be Linear Translators that were land

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeating D-Star

2007-04-26 Thread Nate Duehr
On 4/26/07, Rod Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: go through unimpeded ( and undistorted.) One possible minor down side is that the user's radio needs to be somewhat on-frequency. If they come in 1 KHz low, they go out 1 KHz low. In theory, it's not the repeater owner's problem, but can be

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeating D-Star

2007-04-26 Thread Kevin Custer
mch wrote: There used to be Linear Translators that were land based. There was one around the Pittsburgh area. I'm sure somewhere there are a few left, but they are few and far between. Yup, K3PGP had it in his house. I seen it several times, in person. Kevin

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeating D-Star

2007-04-25 Thread Bob Witte K0NR
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bob Dengler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would be far more interesting to me would be for one of the ham manufacturers to offer a P25 user radio. How much would adding the vocoder add to the cost of a current analog FM model? If it's comparable