[Repeater-Builder] Re: Early FM Repeaters (tubes and more)

2009-11-18 Thread skipp025
Less and less... more Government Agencies out here end up dumping the equipment at metal salvage locations. Here on the left coast they seem to be less interested in making it easy for the public to buy their surplus items in any decent kind of a deal. So I ended up buying racks of

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Early FM Repeaters (tubes and more)

2009-11-18 Thread no6b
At 11/18/2009 15:35, you wrote: Less and less... more Government Agencies out here end up dumping the equipment at metal salvage locations. I'm surprised that can do that, or at least get anything substantial in return for it considering all the hazardous materials in that equipment that must

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Early FM Repeaters (tubes and more)

2009-11-17 Thread skipp025
The disappointing part of narrow banding is the text in the below message. I've been able to narrow band a heck of a lot of repeater equipment. Surplus repeaters and radio equipment are a gold mine to innovative and motivated radio people, who are willing to do both the homework and

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Early FM Repeaters (tubes and more)

2009-11-17 Thread wd8chl
skipp025 wrote: The disappointing part of narrow banding is the text in the below message. I've been able to narrow band a heck of a lot of repeater equipment. Surplus repeaters and radio equipment are a gold mine to innovative and motivated radio people, who are willing to do both

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Early FM Repeaters (tubes and more)

2009-11-17 Thread skipp025
What's sad is how much will likely go in the dumpster instead into some deserving ham's hands ;c} Or made available on/to the surplus market. Actually, there is still a legal question as to whether equipment that was not type-accepted for narrow-band originally will still be legal if

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Early FM Repeaters (tubes and more)

2009-11-17 Thread Andrew Seybold
as before, the performance is not. Andy From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of skipp025 Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 12:00 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Early FM Repeaters (tubes and more

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Early FM Repeaters (tubes and more)

2009-11-17 Thread no6b
At 11/17/2009 10:34, you wrote: The disappointing part of narrow banding is the text in the below message. I've been able to narrow band a heck of a lot of repeater equipment. Surplus repeaters and radio equipment are a gold mine to innovative and motivated radio people, who are willing to do

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Early FM Repeaters (tubes and more)

2009-11-17 Thread wd8chl
skipp025 wrote: What's sad is how much will likely go in the dumpster instead into some deserving ham's hands ;c} Or made available on/to the surplus market. Actually, there is still a legal question as to whether equipment that was not type-accepted for narrow-band originally

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Early FM Repeaters (tubes and more)

2009-11-16 Thread wd8chl
skipp025 wrote: or care for local speaker audio. There is such a glut of used surplus radio equipment on the market right now that I doubt many people will bother with using Master Pro-Receivers when a crystal has to be ordered for each frequency change. Of recent surprise to me is

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Early FM Repeaters (tubes and more)

2009-11-15 Thread Kris Kirby
On Sat, 14 Nov 2009, JOHN MACKEY wrote: No, I do not have to pay the electric bill. I only have to replace tubes about every 5-8 years. It would be easy to build a step-start for the tube cathode and tie that into the COS/PTT line. You could keep the tube filament warm with 1V or so and

[Repeater-Builder] re: Early FM Repeaters (tubes and more)

2009-11-14 Thread skipp025
... 146.94 was the de-facto standard repeater channel that was perfect for the traveling ham because every city had a repeater on that pair. The song remains the same but now in most Metro Areas every repeater pair is taken... and few are honestly generating any decent local (notice I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] re: Early FM Repeaters (tubes and more)

2009-11-14 Thread JOHN MACKEY
I still have several Mastr Pro repeaters in operation on 6 meters, 2 meters, UHF. -- Original Message -- Received: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:43:14 AM PST From: skipp025 skipp...@yahoo.com I can't tell you how many GE Master Pro Repeaters I'd have in operation if I wasn't the one paying

Re: [Repeater-Builder] re: Early FM Repeaters (tubes and more)

2009-11-14 Thread Ken Arck
Bah... My first repeater was built from a PRE Prog xmtr and a Motorola Sensicon receiver (complete with pipes!) Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] re: Early FM Repeaters (tubes and more)

2009-11-14 Thread no6b
At 11/14/2009 09:39, you wrote: Still... a Master Pro Receiver runs on 10 and 12 Volts Any part of a Mastr Pro RX need 12 V other than the audio PA? IIRC the Mastr II RX only needs 10 V if you don't power up the audio PA. (it's solid state) and has one heck of a great receiver so they could

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Early FM Repeaters (tubes and more)

2009-11-14 Thread skipp025
JOHN MACKEY jmac...@... wrote: I still have several Mastr Pro repeaters in operation on 6 meters, 2 meters, UHF. Ohhh ouch. Memories of burnt finger tips from trying to pull hot tubes. Are you paying the site electric bill John? It's gotta cost ya dearly to heat those tubes 24/7.

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Early FM Repeaters (tubes and more)

2009-11-14 Thread skipp025
Bah... My first repeater was built from a PRE Prog xmtr and a Motorola Sensicon receiver (complete with pipes!) Careful now... If you start down memory lane I could help you with a class reunion. I know your shipping address and I know where a fair number of Sensicons and Pre-Progs are

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Early FM Repeaters (tubes and more)

2009-11-14 Thread skipp025
You don't even need the Audio PA 12 Volts if you don't want or care for local speaker audio. There is such a glut of used surplus radio equipment on the market right now that I doubt many people will bother with using Master Pro-Receivers when a crystal has to be ordered for each

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Early FM Repeaters (tubes and more)

2009-11-14 Thread JOHN MACKEY
No, I do not have to pay the electric bill. I only have to replace tubes about every 5-8 years. -- Original Message -- Received: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:39:01 PM PST From: skipp025 skipp...@yahoo.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Early FM Repeaters

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Early FM Repeaters (tubes and more)

2009-11-14 Thread Ken Arck
At 09:54 PM 11/14/2009, larryjspamme...@teleport.com wrote: The Red Book was most helpful with the tuneup and crystal ordering info. --I still have mine :-) Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of