Is this going to be a HAM repeater or LMRS?
What band?
Mike Perryman wrote:
Welcome Chris... My grandpa used to own a horse ranch in Kaufman. Nice
area...
73
Mike Perryman
www.k5jmp.us
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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
On 1/25/07, Christopher Hodgdon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
First I would like to say that I am happy to be a part of this group,
I just found it today and wish to spend a lot of time on here. I am
newly licensed as a ham (KE5IGO) and am now the EC for our county ARES
program, Kaufman County
Does anyone know where I might find a service manual, schematic, etc. for a
Wavetek 3100 service monitor? I've searched the web to no avail.
Eric - W2ZT
It's the BIBLE at our shop.
Charles Miller
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From: radiomog [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 2:06 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] R56
Just wondering how many of you know about R56 and actually try to
follow it
Gentlemen,
Some time ago, I recall seeing posted information on a repeater interface,
designed to interface to two portables (Or mobiles) by utilising audio VOX
directly from the say speaker/mic port and without being intrusive into the
circuitry of the radios. can anybody offer some
Try the wavetektestequipment yahoo group
Thank You,
Ian Wells,
Kerinvale Comaudio,
www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au
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From: Eric Brownell
Date: 01/29/07 20:20:17
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Wavetek 3100 Service Monitor Manual(s)
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is why year after year, on this list, the word is continually
put out:
Send the elements in to have the crystal manufacturer install the
crystals, temperature compensate, and net them to frequency.
What type of material is the capacitor made from?
skipp
vikas gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
please advise me how i tune the duplexr of Tx (811.1-819.2MHz) Rx
(856.1-864.2 MHz) . I am tuning this by desigig band reject notch
type duplxer but I have a problem in achieving 1 dB insertin loss
I have a partial answer based on experience with a Med 9 (462.950) repeater,
that when installed was on the south side of a water tank, probably 90' on the
railing around the tank. Needless to say it performance to the north was poor
about 90 degrees of coverage was just gone, northwest to
Yes - they will also make sure that they're netted to the proper frequency in
the process, as well. They will change any necessary caps (and use the proper
type so that big temperature changes have minimal effect) to allow a good +/-
range of the coil or capacitor to net to frequency, depending
CES makes a repeater maker RM-10 and RM-20. The -10 is no longer
available new but pops up on ebay on a regular basis. Its nice and
cheap but has no Ider. The RM-20 is available new, pops up on ebay
from time to time and has an IDer.
Gentlemen,
Some time ago, I recall seeing posted
Wierd, I thought I sent this message already..
Anyway.
I've been offered a site, but I would have to mount the antennas on
the side of the water tower, not the top. That means within probably
3-6 feet of the side of the big metal can.
I have docs from my antenna mfgr for pattern when I adjust
Laryn Lohman wrote:
Now that I think about it, with all the wireless stuff (cell
antennas) that I have seen mounted around a water tower single legs
(the modern towers), on buildings at each face, etc. , I bet there is
info out there that you can tailor for your needs using the phased
Dave
gave us the model of your antenna,is it the 4 loops on a 20 feets mast
antenna?
here in Canada it is called the SRL210A4 or SRL210C4 depending if the
harness is inside the mast or outside.
normally the loop are 36 inches or less from the mast (i dont have my specs
near),it will affect your
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, gervais fillion
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dave
gave us the model of your antenna,is it the 4 loops on a 20 feets
mast
antenna?
The VHF is a Telewave ANT150D9, and UHF is a DB-404 (unless I find
something better before then)
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Steve Peg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
It is what you get when the county takes a free site, when better
ones existed. Cheap, free is always better to people who know nothing
and dollars count.
Well, in my case, we've been looking for two years, and
Dave;
Are you able to choose where on the side of the tank (IE, facing a particular
direction) or are you stuck with a specific spot? I don't have any charts to
reflect this, but a repeater I helped maintain had a remote receiver on a water
tower. Unfortunatly, the only spot the antenna
I seem to recall the micor base and repeaters have a wierd power
supply voltage (around 15VDC). Has anyone had any luck running them
off of 12VDC battery backup? My boss has a Micor repeater and we
never could get it to work with batterys becuse of the power supply
voltage it was looking for.
Does anybody have any info on how to get a Micor bas or repeater to
run on batteries12V)? The only micor we ever tried to run on 12V
wouldn't even turn on. I seem to recall that the power supply output
was 15V. Anyone ever come accrossed this?
Thanks,
Jordan
Thanks to all those that have contacted me directly or through the
newsletter about our repeater project. I am updating the webpage that
goes along with it, but to give some of you that have asked and those
that haven't an idea of what we are doing.
The 1st repeater (the one I talked about in
A Micor Base/Repeater Power Supply is a dual supply with 12+ plus 10.8 +
Volts. As you look at the power supply the two large terminals with the Red
and Black Lead going to the PA is 12 Volts, although it actually measure
about 14 volts. On the backplane there is another small plug that comes out
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Iszak, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Dave;
Are you able to choose where on the side of the tank (IE, facing a
particular direction) or are you stuck with a specific spot?
I haven't seen the details yet, but as far as I know we can pick the
spot.
Google ad popped up in Gmail while looking at other duplexer-related
e-mail, and I figured I'd share with the list.
http://www.temwell.com.tw/products2-Base%20Station%20Duplexer.htm
Anyone priced them and/or been bold enough to try a duplexer from
these guys? Judging by the website address,
Seeing as their channel spacing for UHF is 10 MHz (450-470) and VHF is
6 MHz, I do not see any applications for their products in the amateur
market.
On 1/29/07, Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Google ad popped up in Gmail while looking at other duplexer-related
e-mail, and I figured I'd
Every place Jim makes reference to 10.8 Volts below, he really means 9.6
Volts
Jim knows that, and now so does everyone else...
Kevin Custer
Jim Cicirello wrote:
A Micor Base/Repeater Power Supply is a dual supply with 12+ plus 10.8
+ Volts. As you look at the power supply the two large
Their stuff has flooded eBay for several months.
I'd say it's made in China
No further comment,
Kevin
Nate Duehr wrote:
Google ad popped up in Gmail while looking at other duplexer-related
e-mail, and I figured I'd share with the list.
Kevin Custer wrote:
I'd say it's made in China
Scratch that, you are correct, Taiwan
http://www.temwell.com.tw/BS%202+2%20size.htm
Kevin
I'm not sure if you were looking for constructive criticism or not. If you
were, here's mine. If not, the delete key is within finger's reach...
1 TKR-750 VHF Kenwood Repeater - $1350
1 KPG-91D Repeater Programming Kit - $119
1 TKR-PS1223 Kenwood Internal Power Supply - $169
1 PC24-NN
hummm
goggle dont find this antenna,,,
Original Message Follows
From: Dave VanHorn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna on the side of a water tower.
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 20:30:27 -
The easiest way is to use the Micor battery backup power supply.
You can't run a Micor on 12V alone; it requires 9.6V as well. If you only
hooked up the 12V to your battery, the station won't work as you found out.
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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
At 01:54 PM 1/29/2007, you wrote:
Kevin Custer wrote:
I'd say it's made in China
Scratch that, you are correct, Taiwan
The other China g
Ken
--
President and CTO - Arcom Communications
Makers of the world
Please consider one of these companies, before you spend your money:
http://www.repeater-builder.com/products/
http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/kenwood.html
http://www.hamtronics.com/
http://www.hiprorepeaters.com/
Kevin Custer
Christopher Hodgdon wrote:
I researched a lot about repeaters online
On 1/29/07, Jeff DePolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
3. Consider budgeting for an isolator for the transmitter and additional
receiver filtering. A pass/reject duplexer like the Telewave TPRD-1556 does
a great job of protecting your receiver from your own transmitter, but does
very little as far
On 1/29/07, Christopher Hodgdon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The main setup that we received a quote for is the follow:
1 TKR-750 VHF Kenwood Repeater - $1350
1 KPG-91D Repeater Programming Kit - $119
1 TKR-PS1223 Kenwood Internal Power Supply - $169
1 PC24-NN Patch Cable (Repeater TX to
At 01:56 PM 1/29/2007, you wrote:
1 KPG-91D Repeater Programming Kit - $119
---Allow me to clarify a misconception here. One does NOT need the
KPG-46 Programming Cable in order to program the TKR 750 (or 751, 851
or 850 for that matter). All it takes is a standard serial cable.
Also, the
At 02:13 PM 1/29/2007, you wrote:
On 1/29/07, Jeff DePolo mailto:jeff%40depolo.net[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
3. Consider budgeting for an isolator for the transmitter and additional
receiver filtering. A pass/reject duplexer like the Telewave TPRD-1556 does
a great job of protecting your
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, IF YOUR NICE I MAY TELL YOU
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all another question do you need 1 0r 2 antenna's on a repeater.
Thanks
Yes!
You can do it either way, but MOST systems use one antenna and a
rather expensive device called a duplexer which
radiomog wrote:
All this talk of LMR cable problems.
does anyone have any reference articles or a web site where I can delve
deeper into this subject ?
I have only ever seen the topic discussed on this particular list. If
you look at the archives, you will see that it's been debated many
Kevin Custer wrote:
The problem is these cables are made from dissimilar metals, tinned copper
wire over an aluminum foil
braid.
Please remove the word braid.
damn.
these new fingers
grin
kuggie
The Micor also requires 9.6v on the interconnect backplane.
Chuck K0XM
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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of twoway_tech
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 2:37 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder]
Andrew has a technical paper that compares Heliax to braid-foil cables
at:
http://www.andrew.com/search/BN_SP30-27.aspx
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--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, radiomog [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
All this talk of LMR cable
There is a power supply that is made to take in 12V and it has the place for
the battery. It is a Motorola power supply made for the repeater.
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From: twoway_tech
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 10:12 PM
Subject:
Heck my micor repeater is running fine on a 50 amp astron which is float
charging the three gelcell batteries that power the repeater of course
between the batteries I have the Motorola power supply that takes 12 volts
and gives the repeater all the different voltages that it needs.
Hello everyone. I am a Icom, Vertex, HYT dealer out of Canada. I am
looking at putting up a UHF trunking repeater in the 450-470 MHz
range. I think I am leaning towards a LTR system however I do not
have very much expirence with trunking repeaters as they are not all
that common out here.
Speaking of shopping around -- someone really should give a plug for
our gracious website hosts... DEFINITELY get a quote from the folks at
REPEATER BUILDER
Nate WY0X
I ditto that last commet by Nate. I have used the guys at repeater-builder
and have been very happy with both Kevin
wadeds2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am looking at putting up a UHF trunking repeater in the 450-470 MHz
range. I think I am leaning towards a LTR system however I do not
have very much expirence with trunking repeaters as they are not all
that common out here.
As I travel around the
Ditto on Kevin and Scott, and Many others on this Group, Scott build up My
220 Micor Repeater in the Process of Him building a New House, and Moving
Even let me make payments while He was doing it. The only Problem is When
they build them and you Put it up at a Site, You Never get to see it
Just playing Devil's Advocate for a moment... please feel free
to play along if you like.
Your Repeater Site AC Mains Power fails for what turns out to be a
very extended amount of time. A large (but modest) capacity battery
bank/system with no LVD (low voltage disconnect) powers
Surge protection on the feedline and none on the AC power is the same as
none at all. I'm assuming a single-point ground system with adequate ground
rods and radial system (but really shouldn't assume that since it wasn't
mentioned).
Chuck
WB2EDV
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From: Nate
Speaking of shopping around -- someone really should give a plug for
our gracious website hosts... DEFINITELY get a quote from the folks at
REPEATER BUILDER
Nate WY0X
Couldn't say it any better. They've spent more years in repeater
systems than some of us are old. These guys know
Motorola also put out a white paper on braid-over-foil cable and pointed
out it's problems in a duplexed system. They did not specifically name LMR
cable, but it was obvious that they were talking about it and others.
Joe
At 10:48 PM 1/29/2007 +, you wrote:
Andrew has a technical
ok, what's the paper called? Is it posted on MOL? If so, what folder is
it in?
Gary
Joe wrote:
Motorola also put out a white paper on braid-over-foil
cable and pointed out it's problems in a duplexed system. They did
not specifically name LMR cable, but it was obvious that they were talking
Thank you for the kind words fellows. We always try our best to make people
happy.
I question at times when I build machines and then never hear another word
about them. It just makes me wonder if at some hamfest someone is just going to
haul off and knock me out. I guess no response in
You're referring to the TPN1106A power supply, which is part of the C29
option on Micor stations. It can be adjusted for either nickel-cadmium or
AGM/VRSLA batteries, and it is designed to transmit an alarm tone over the
air when AC power fails and another alarm tone when the voltage has dropped
Greg,
Is this going to be used for commercial or Amateur purposes? What frequency
band? What separation between TX and RX? Is the repeater intended for
casual, low-duty-cycle purposes such as a family reunion or for
high-duty-cycle purposes such as emergency support? The answers to these
In fact, it's normal these days that when you see banks of cell antennas on
each side of a structure, each bank feeds a different bank of tx/rx; in
other words, each bank is a different cell site.
They are called sectors. Out here in LA, sites consist of 2, 3 or 4
sectors. On PCS 1950, each
29 Jan 2007
ATTN: System Moderator
Greetings
Could you contact me off list for a question regarding the Repeater
Builder guidelines?
Thanks
Ed Folta
Com/Rad inc
Jan
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