Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
I'm saying Mike, that any rig (the first ones to do it) that can do all digital formats will pull down an arm and a leg, while the manufacturers laugh all the way to the bank. Nate WY0X On 2/15/2010 11:30 AM, k7...@skybeam.com wrote: What ?? Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate Duehr *Sent:* Monday, February 15, 2010 11:15 AM *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems On 2/15/2010 7:05 AM, k7...@skybeam.com mailto:k7...@skybeam.com wrote: I don't think there is any radio that will do NXDN and P25 in the same radio. Don't take that to the bank just yet. The Mototrbo radio says that there will be a firmware flash later this year that will add P25 to the radio and if recall that the radio will do both TDMA and P25 but don't take that to the band as well. We should hear more at IWCE next month. Let me know what you hear... and whether or not you can buy a decent used car for the price of one rig. LOL! Nate
Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
Nate Duehr wrote: I'm saying Mike, that any rig (the first ones to do it) that can do all digital formats will pull down an arm and a leg, while the manufacturers laugh all the way to the bank. The people laughing all the way to the bank are the folks with the patent on the IMBE codec, which they've manged to get written in to several of these specs even though there's no royalty-free implementations available. Matthew Kaufman ps. And to top it off, it performs horribly for some critical applications (try using it from inside a building with an active fire alarm and see what gets transmitted, for example)
RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
Oh, yes I agree with you. Its going to come to a head here in a few years. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 3:00 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems I'm saying Mike, that any rig (the first ones to do it) that can do all digital formats will pull down an arm and a leg, while the manufacturers laugh all the way to the bank. Nate WY0X On 2/15/2010 11:30 AM, k7...@skybeam. mailto:k7...@skybeam.com com wrote: What ?? Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 11:15 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems On 2/15/2010 7:05 AM, k7...@skybeam. mailto:k7...@skybeam.com com wrote: I don't think there is any radio that will do NXDN and P25 in the same radio. Don't take that to the bank just yet. The Mototrbo radio says that there will be a firmware flash later this year that will add P25 to the radio and if recall that the radio will do both TDMA and P25 but don't take that to the band as well. We should hear more at IWCE next month. Let me know what you hear... and whether or not you can buy a decent used car for the price of one rig. LOL! Nate
RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
Hi Nate, I don't think there is any radio that will do NXDN and P25 in the same radio. Don't take that to the bank just yet. The Mototrbo radio says that there will be a firmware flash later this year that will add P25 to the radio and if recall that the radio will do both TDMA and P25 but don't take that to the band as well. We should hear more at IWCE next month. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 11:34 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems On Feb 14, 2010, at 11:54 AM, Tom Parker wrote: Firmware already upgrades a NXDN radio to P25, but alas, then it is no longer NXDN. I don't think you'll ever see P25 and turbo or NXDN in the same box. Big M did remove the XTL1500 from the above price book and put it in the dealer's price sheet last month. What specific radio will do both NXDN and P25... and what would firmware loads to do both legally, cost? Carrying a laptop and switching when needed, isn't a problem these days. Would be nice to get dual bang-for-buck, so to speak. -- Nate Duehr n...@natetech. mailto:nate%40natetech.com com facebook.com/denverpilot twitter.com/denverpilot
RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
Mark, Yes they plan to have a Mototrbo aka Vertex radio for sale here really soon. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 11:27 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems I think it will be interesting to see whether Motorola expands/offers MotoTrbo to the Vertex/Standard/Yaesu radios, now that they have ownership in Vertex/Standard. IMHO, adding MotoTrbo options to the Yaesu line would be one easy, quick and dirty way to attempt to wrest digital away from Icom/D-STAR. This could get to be very interesting. Mark - N9WYS From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of John Crockett Eric: Back here in the Southeast there are two UHF MotoTrbo repeaters being coordinated in the Charlotte, NC area. It will be interesting if this digital technology will take off. In SC we have enough D-Star repeaters to cover the state, but the number of users is low. It will take a long time before it is viable as a parallel statewide communications system. Analog FM is still the back bone of our statewide communications system and it will be for years to come. www.scheart. http://www.scheart.us/ us The question in the back of my mind is. Is MotoTrbo the digital technology that will leap frog D-Star? I guess we can stay tuned for the outcome! John, KC4YI
Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
On 2/15/2010 7:05 AM, k7...@skybeam.com wrote: I don't think there is any radio that will do NXDN and P25 in the same radio. Don't take that to the bank just yet. The Mototrbo radio says that there will be a firmware flash later this year that will add P25 to the radio and if recall that the radio will do both TDMA and P25 but don't take that to the band as well. We should hear more at IWCE next month. Let me know what you hear... and whether or not you can buy a decent used car for the price of one rig. LOL! Nate
RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
What ?? Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 11:15 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems On 2/15/2010 7:05 AM, k7...@skybeam. mailto:k7...@skybeam.com com wrote: I don't think there is any radio that will do NXDN and P25 in the same radio. Don't take that to the bank just yet. The Mototrbo radio says that there will be a firmware flash later this year that will add P25 to the radio and if recall that the radio will do both TDMA and P25 but don't take that to the band as well. We should hear more at IWCE next month. Let me know what you hear... and whether or not you can buy a decent used car for the price of one rig. LOL! Nate
[Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
Just curious how many ham radio club, groups and individuals are installing HAM systems in the USA. I know that the TRBO-6 group is up and working great and several others. Here in Denver area the interest is huge and I am hearing of others that are also very interested. Thanks, Mike K7PFJ Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693
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Mike, A few members of the Satellite ARC are toying with the idea of putting a MotoTrbo repeater on one of our mountaintop sites. The major stumbling block, of course, is the very high cost of the digital radios needed to use the MotoTrbo repeater. There are several analog 6m, 2m, 220, and 440 repeaters in my area that have a total of perhaps 80 users- and most of those users are reluctant to shell out well over a thousand bucks just to talk to a few other people, when they can use their $80 Puxing or Alinco radios to talk to everyone else, anywhere. I would like to know how many MotoTrbo handheld and mobile radios are now being used in the Denver area. Perhaps a new perspective will help others to justify the high cost of implementation. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of k7...@skybeam.com Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 7:24 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Just curious how many ham radio club, groups and individuals are installing HAM systems in the USA. I know that the TRBO-6 group is up and working great and several others. Here in Denver area the interest is huge and I am hearing of others that are also very interested. Thanks, Mike K7PFJ
RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
Hi Eric, Good to here form you, its been a while. Ebay is the cheapest place you can get radios. I am going to get the www.usedmototrbo.com http://www.usedmototrbo.com/ site up here and there will be many other digital radios as well. A lot of the ARES and RACES groups are embracing the radios and not using there DStar radios. Vertex will be offering a mobile and portable here very soon as well as HYT will have a mobile and portable that will work on the systems as well and they are going to announce it at IWCE 2010 so stay tuned on there offering. Many 3rd party Motorola partners are building many software and hardware widgets to work with the system and have herd of some interest in an IPhone application being tossed around as well. I just installed a TRBO HAM repeater above Boulder, Co and is working great and Paul WA2YZT has his on Lookout Mt above Denver that is connected to the TRBO-6 group and is working flawless as well. I haven't seen this much excitement in digital in this area for a while and I think that is why Paul WA2YZT swapped the P25 digital repeater and converted it to Mototrbo. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 8:50 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Mike, A few members of the Satellite ARC are toying with the idea of putting a MotoTrbo repeater on one of our mountaintop sites. The major stumbling block, of course, is the very high cost of the digital radios needed to use the MotoTrbo repeater. There are several analog 6m, 2m, 220, and 440 repeaters in my area that have a total of perhaps 80 users- and most of those users are reluctant to shell out well over a thousand bucks just to talk to a few other people, when they can use their $80 Puxing or Alinco radios to talk to everyone else, anywhere. I would like to know how many MotoTrbo handheld and mobile radios are now being used in the Denver area. Perhaps a new perspective will help others to justify the high cost of implementation. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of k7...@skybeam. mailto:k7pfj%40skybeam.com com Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 7:24 AM To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Just curious how many ham radio club, groups and individuals are installing HAM systems in the USA. I know that the TRBO-6 group is up and working great and several others. Here in Denver area the interest is huge and I am hearing of others that are also very interested. Thanks, Mike K7PFJ
RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
Mike, There's always going to be excitement about, and interest in, digital systems. Please answer my question: How many Hams in your area have purchased and are now using MotoTrbo radios? 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of k7...@skybeam.com Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 8:01 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Hi Eric, Good to here form you, its been a while. Ebay is the cheapest place you can get radios. I am going to get the www.usedmototrbo.com http://www.usedmototrbo.com/ site up here and there will be many other digital radios as well. A lot of the ARES and RACES groups are embracing the radios and not using there DStar radios. Vertex will be offering a mobile and portable here very soon as well as HYT will have a mobile and portable that will work on the systems as well and they are going to announce it at IWCE 2010 so stay tuned on there offering. Many 3rd party Motorola partners are building many software and hardware widgets to work with the system and have herd of some interest in an IPhone application being tossed around as well. I just installed a TRBO HAM repeater above Boulder, Co and is working great and Paul WA2YZT has his on Lookout Mt above Denver that is connected to the TRBO-6 group and is working flawless as well. I haven't seen this much excitement in digital in this area for a while and I think that is why Paul WA2YZT swapped the P25 digital repeater and converted it to Mototrbo. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 8:50 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Mike, A few members of the Satellite ARC are toying with the idea of putting a MotoTrbo repeater on one of our mountaintop sites. The major stumbling block, of course, is the very high cost of the digital radios needed to use the MotoTrbo repeater. There are several analog 6m, 2m, 220, and 440 repeaters in my area that have a total of perhaps 80 users- and most of those users are reluctant to shell out well over a thousand bucks just to talk to a few other people, when they can use their $80 Puxing or Alinco radios to talk to everyone else, anywhere. I would like to know how many MotoTrbo handheld and mobile radios are now being used in the Denver area. Perhaps a new perspective will help others to justify the high cost of implementation. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of k7...@skybeam.com mailto:k7pfj%40skybeam.com Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 7:24 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Just curious how many ham radio club, groups and individuals are installing HAM systems in the USA. I know that the TRBO-6 group is up and working great and several others. Here in Denver area the interest is huge and I am hearing of others that are also very interested. Thanks, Mike K7PFJ
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Eric: Back here in the Southeast there are two UHF MotoTrbo repeaters being coordinated in the Charlotte, NC area. It will be interesting if this digital technology will take off. In SC we have enough D-Star repeaters to cover the state, but the number of users is low. It will take a long time before it is viable as a parallel statewide communications system. Analog FM is still the back bone of our statewide communications system and it will be for years to come. www.scheart.us The question in the back of my mind is. Is MotoTrbo the digital technology that will leap frog D-Star? I guess we can stay tuned for the outcome! John, KC4YI From: Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, February 14, 2010 11:34:05 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Mike, There's always going to be excitement about, and interest in, digital systems. Please answer my question: How many Hams in your area have purchased and are now using MotoTrbo radios? 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of k7...@skybeam. com Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 8:01 AM To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Hi Eric, Good to here form you, its been a while. Ebay is the cheapest place you can get radios. I am going to get the www.usedmototrbo. com http://www.usedmototrbo.com/ site up here and there will be many other digital radios as well. A lot of the ARES and RACES groups are embracing the radios and not using there DStar radios. Vertex will be offering a mobile and portable here very soon as well as HYT will have a mobile and portable that will work on the systems as well and they are going to announce it at IWCE 2010 so stay tuned on there offering. Many 3rd party Motorola partners are building many software and hardware widgets to work with the system and have herd of some interest in an IPhone application being tossed around as well. I just installed a TRBO HAM repeater above Boulder, Co and is working great and Paul WA2YZT has his on Lookout Mt above Denver that is connected to the TRBO-6 group and is working flawless as well. I haven't seen this much excitement in digital in this area for a while and I think that is why Paul WA2YZT swapped the P25 digital repeater and converted it to Mototrbo. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ _ _ __ From: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 8:50 AM To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Mike, A few members of the Satellite ARC are toying with the idea of putting a MotoTrbo repeater on one of our mountaintop sites. The major stumbling block, of course, is the very high cost of the digital radios needed to use the MotoTrbo repeater. There are several analog 6m, 2m, 220, and 440 repeaters in my area that have a total of perhaps 80 users- and most of those users are reluctant to shell out well over a thousand bucks just to talk to a few other people, when they can use their $80 Puxing or Alinco radios to talk to everyone else, anywhere. I would like to know how many MotoTrbo handheld and mobile radios are now being used in the Denver area. Perhaps a new perspective will help others to justify the high cost of implementation. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com mailto:Repeater- Builder%40yahoog roups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com mailto:Repeater- Builder%40yahoog roups.com ] On Behalf Of k7...@skybeam. com mailto:k7pfj% 40skybeam. com Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 7:24 AM To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com mailto:Repeater- Builder%40yahoog roups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Just curious how many ham radio club, groups and individuals are installing HAM systems in the USA. I know that the TRBO-6 group is up and working great and several others. Here in Denver area the interest is huge and I am hearing of others that are also very interested. Thanks, Mike K7PFJ
RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
Hi Eric, There are currently about 50 radios that have the ham systems programmed into their radios. I would say that there will by the end of next month, there should be 50 or so hams that have radios in the Colorado area. The emails are flying around this area on how to acquire radios and get on the systems etc. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 9:34 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Mike, There's always going to be excitement about, and interest in, digital systems. Please answer my question: How many Hams in your area have purchased and are now using MotoTrbo radios? 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of k7...@skybeam. mailto:k7pfj%40skybeam.com com Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 8:01 AM To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Hi Eric, Good to here form you, its been a while. Ebay is the cheapest place you can get radios. I am going to get the www.usedmototrbo.com http://www.usedmoto http://www.usedmototrbo.com/ trbo.com/ site up here and there will be many other digital radios as well. A lot of the ARES and RACES groups are embracing the radios and not using there DStar radios. Vertex will be offering a mobile and portable here very soon as well as HYT will have a mobile and portable that will work on the systems as well and they are going to announce it at IWCE 2010 so stay tuned on there offering. Many 3rd party Motorola partners are building many software and hardware widgets to work with the system and have herd of some interest in an IPhone application being tossed around as well. I just installed a TRBO HAM repeater above Boulder, Co and is working great and Paul WA2YZT has his on Lookout Mt above Denver that is connected to the TRBO-6 group and is working flawless as well. I haven't seen this much excitement in digital in this area for a while and I think that is why Paul WA2YZT swapped the P25 digital repeater and converted it to Mototrbo. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 8:50 AM To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Mike, A few members of the Satellite ARC are toying with the idea of putting a MotoTrbo repeater on one of our mountaintop sites. The major stumbling block, of course, is the very high cost of the digital radios needed to use the MotoTrbo repeater. There are several analog 6m, 2m, 220, and 440 repeaters in my area that have a total of perhaps 80 users- and most of those users are reluctant to shell out well over a thousand bucks just to talk to a few other people, when they can use their $80 Puxing or Alinco radios to talk to everyone else, anywhere. I would like to know how many MotoTrbo handheld and mobile radios are now being used in the Denver area. Perhaps a new perspective will help others to justify the high cost of implementation. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of k7...@skybeam. mailto:k7pfj%40skybeam.com com mailto:k7pfj%40skybeam.com Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 7:24 AM To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Just curious how many ham radio club, groups and individuals are installing HAM systems in the USA. I know that the TRBO-6 group is up and working great and several others. Here in Denver area the interest is huge and I am hearing of others that are also very interested. Thanks, Mike K7PFJ
RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems
I think it will be interesting to see whether Motorola expands/offers MotoTrbo to the Vertex/Standard/Yaesu radios, now that they have ownership in Vertex/Standard. IMHO, adding MotoTrbo options to the Yaesu line would be one “easy, quick and dirty” way to attempt to wrest digital away from Icom/D-STAR. This could get to be very interesting… Mark – N9WYS From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of John Crockett Eric: Back here in the Southeast there are two UHF MotoTrbo repeaters being coordinated in the Charlotte, NC area. It will be interesting if this digital technology will take off. In SC we have enough D-Star repeaters to cover the state, but the number of users is low. It will take a long time before it is viable as a parallel statewide communications system. Analog FM is still the back bone of our statewide communications system and it will be for years to come. www.scheart.us http://www.scheart.us/ The question in the back of my mind is. Is MotoTrbo the digital technology that will leap frog D-Star? I guess we can stay tuned for the outcome! John, KC4YI
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And all of them could add P25 so you would have a common digital format. Joe M. Mark wrote: I think it will be interesting to see whether Motorola expands/offers MotoTrbo to the Vertex/Standard/Yaesu radios, now that they have ownership in Vertex/Standard. IMHO, adding MotoTrbo options to the Yaesu line would be one “easy, quick and dirty” way to attempt to wrest digital away from Icom/D-STAR. This could get to be very interesting… Mark – N9WYS *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *On Behalf Of *John Crockett Eric: Back here in the Southeast there are two UHF MotoTrbo repeaters being coordinated in the Charlotte, NC area. It will be interesting if this digital technology will take off. In SC we have enough D-Star repeaters to cover the state, but the number of users is low. It will take a long time before it is viable as a parallel statewide communications system. Analog FM is still the back bone of our statewide communications system and it will be for years to come. www.scheart.us http://www.scheart.us/ The question in the back of my mind is. Is MotoTrbo the digital technology that will leap frog D-Star? I guess we can stay tuned for the outcome! John, KC4YI
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Firmware already upgrades a NXDN radio to P25, but alas, then it is no longer NXDN. I don't think you'll ever see P25 and turbo or NXDN in the same box. Big M did remove the XTL1500 from the above price book and put it in the dealer's price sheet last month. my 2 cents MCH wrote: And all of them could add P25 so you would have a common digital format. Joe M. Mark wrote: I think it will be interesting to see whether Motorola expands/offers MotoTrbo to the Vertex/Standard/Yaesu radios, now that they have ownership in Vertex/Standard. IMHO, adding MotoTrbo options to the Yaesu line would be one “easy, quick and dirty” way to attempt to wrest digital away from Icom/D-STAR. This could get to be very interesting… Mark – N9WYS *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com *On Behalf Of *John Crockett Eric: Back here in the Southeast there are two UHF MotoTrbo repeaters being coordinated in the Charlotte, NC area. It will be interesting if this digital technology will take off. In SC we have enough D-Star repeaters to cover the state, but the number of users is low. It will take a long time before it is viable as a parallel statewide communications system. Analog FM is still the back bone of our statewide communications system and it will be for years to come. www.scheart.us http://www.scheart.us/ http://www.scheart.us/ The question in the back of my mind is. Is MotoTrbo the digital technology that will leap frog D-Star? I guess we can stay tuned for the outcome! John, KC4YI
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Mike, In the DC area there is currently one UHF machine and about 5-10 amateurs playing with MOTOTRBO. I would be interested to know what other areas are using for setting or are they leaving everything in the default setting? Dan KA8YPY On Feb 14, 2010, at 10:24 AM, k7...@skybeam.com wrote: Just curious how many ham radio club, groups and individuals are installing HAM systems in the USA. I know that the TRBO-6 group is up and working great and several others. Here in Denver area the interest is huge and I am hearing of others that are also very interested. Thanks, Mike K7PFJ Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693
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The Vertex MotoTrbo product is just a re-badged and watered down Motorola product and nothing more. No point re-inventing the wheel for the big M, and also they need to compromise in the marketplace, without upsetting their Motorola Sales/Dealers. HYT will be the ones to watch as their gear is Trbo backwards compatible. Cheers Gareth Bennett - Original Message - From: Mark To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 7:26 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems I think it will be interesting to see whether Motorola expands/offers MotoTrbo to the Vertex/Standard/Yaesu radios, now that they have ownership in Vertex/Standard. IMHO, adding MotoTrbo options to the Yaesu line would be one “easy, quick and dirty” way to attempt to wrest digital away from Icom/D-STAR. This could get to be very interesting… Mark – N9WYS From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of John Crockett Eric: Back here in the Southeast there are two UHF MotoTrbo repeaters being coordinated in the Charlotte, NC area. It will be interesting if this digital technology will take off. In SC we have enough D-Star repeaters to cover the state, but the number of users is low. It will take a long time before it is viable as a parallel statewide communications system. Analog FM is still the back bone of our statewide communications system and it will be for years to come. www.scheart.us The question in the back of my mind is. Is MotoTrbo the digital technology that will leap frog D-Star? I guess we can stay tuned for the outcome! John, KC4YI
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Here in Southern CA. (LA, Orange, and San Diego counties) we have at least 4 Mototrbo repeaters running AND IPSC linked on the amateur band. There are more than two dozen users known to have invested in Trbo radios with interest growing steadily. Given the behind-the-scenes Mototrbo activity that has been taking place over the past two years in amateur radio it's become increasingly clear that the system works well and that Motorola is continuing to improve or release features and tools all the time. They really hope APCO adopts their TDMA format as the next generation of P25 but that is yet to be seen meanwhile Motorola is clearly focused on developing the Mototrbo platform. Gary -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:12 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Mike, In the DC area there is currently one UHF machine and about 5-10 amateurs playing with MOTOTRBO. I would be interested to know what other areas are using for setting or are they leaving everything in the default setting? Dan KA8YPY
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My point was not to keep NCDN and P25, but rather to have one digital voice format on the bands everyone can use as opposed to 27 formats. Joe M. Tom Parker wrote: Firmware already upgrades a NXDN radio to P25, but alas, then it is no longer NXDN. I don't think you'll ever see P25 and turbo or NXDN in the same box. Big M did remove the XTL1500 from the above price book and put it in the dealer's price sheet last month. my 2 cents MCH wrote: And all of them could add P25 so you would have a common digital format. Joe M. Mark wrote: I think it will be interesting to see whether Motorola expands/offers MotoTrbo to the Vertex/Standard/Yaesu radios, now that they have ownership in Vertex/Standard. IMHO, adding MotoTrbo options to the Yaesu line would be one “easy, quick and dirty” way to attempt to wrest digital away from Icom/D-STAR. This could get to be very interesting… Mark – N9WYS *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com *On Behalf Of *John Crockett Eric: Back here in the Southeast there are two UHF MotoTrbo repeaters being coordinated in the Charlotte, NC area. It will be interesting if this digital technology will take off. In SC we have enough D-Star repeaters to cover the state, but the number of users is low. It will take a long time before it is viable as a parallel statewide communications system. Analog FM is still the back bone of our statewide communications system and it will be for years to come. www.scheart.us http://www.scheart.us/ http://www.scheart.us/ The question in the back of my mind is. Is MotoTrbo the digital technology that will leap frog D-Star? I guess we can stay tuned for the outcome! John, KC4YI No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2687 - Release Date: 02/14/10 02:35:00 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: repeater-builder-dig...@yahoogroups.com repeater-builder-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: repeater-builder-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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I carry a Trbo daily for work with analog amateur in it. I have installed both standalone and IP connect repeaters at our sites. I can't find info on Trbo-6. Are many amateur Trbo repeaters connected? I would love to put on in place and connect it. Glenn W8AK In a message dated 2/14/2010 3:42:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, n6...@cox.net writes: Here in Southern CA. (LA, Orange, and San Diego counties) we have at least 4 Mototrbo repeaters running AND IPSC linked on the amateur band. There are more than two dozen users known to have invested in Trbo radios with interest growing steadily. Given the behind-the-scenes Mototrbo activity that has been taking place over the past two years in amateur radio it's become increasingly clear that the system works well and that Motorola is continuing to improve or release features and tools all the time. They really hope APCO adopts their TDMA format as the next generation of P25 but that is yet to be seen meanwhile Motorola is clearly focused on developing the Mototrbo platform. Gary -Original Message- From: _repeater-buil...@repeater-buirep_ (mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com) [mailto:_repeater-buil...@repeater-buirep_ (mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com) ] On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:12 AM To: _repeater-buil...@repeater-buirep_ (mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com) Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Mike, In the DC area there is currently one UHF machine and about 5-10 amateurs playing with MOTOTRBO. I would be interested to know what other areas are using for setting or are they leaving everything in the default setting? Dan KA8YPY
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Word has it that later this year there will be P25 flash for the trbo radio but will work on both from what I hear. My 2 cents as well. Mike _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Parker Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 11:55 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Firmware already upgrades a NXDN radio to P25, but alas, then it is no longer NXDN. I don't think you'll ever see P25 and turbo or NXDN in the same box. Big M did remove the XTL1500 from the above price book and put it in the dealer's price sheet last month. my 2 cents MCH wrote: And all of them could add P25 so you would have a common digital format. Joe M. Mark wrote: I think it will be interesting to see whether Motorola expands/offers MotoTrbo to the Vertex/Standard/Yaesu radios, now that they have ownership in Vertex/Standard. IMHO, adding MotoTrbo options to the Yaesu line would be one easy, quick and dirty way to attempt to wrest digital away from Icom/D-STAR. This could get to be very interesting. Mark - N9WYS *From:* Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com *On Behalf Of *John Crockett Eric: Back here in the Southeast there are two UHF MotoTrbo repeaters being coordinated in the Charlotte, NC area. It will be interesting if this digital technology will take off. In SC we have enough D-Star repeaters to cover the state, but the number of users is low. It will take a long time before it is viable as a parallel statewide communications system. Analog FM is still the back bone of our statewide communications system and it will be for years to come. www.scheart.us http://www.scheart. http://www.scheart.us/ us/ The question in the back of my mind is. Is MotoTrbo the digital technology that will leap frog D-Star? I guess we can stay tuned for the outcome! John, KC4YI
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HYT will offer it at the IWCE this year and will get broshures and info for the new web site. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gareth Bennett Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:30 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems The Vertex MotoTrbo product is just a re-badged and watered down Motorola product and nothing more. No point re-inventing the wheel for the big M, and also they need to compromise in the marketplace, without upsetting their Motorola Sales/Dealers. HYT will be the ones to watch as their gear is Trbo backwards compatible. Cheers Gareth Bennett - Original Message - From: Mark mailto:n9...@ameritech.net To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 7:26 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems I think it will be interesting to see whether Motorola expands/offers MotoTrbo to the Vertex/Standard/Yaesu radios, now that they have ownership in Vertex/Standard. IMHO, adding MotoTrbo options to the Yaesu line would be one “easy, quick and dirty” way to attempt to wrest digital away from Icom/D-STAR. This could get to be very interesting… Mark – N9WYS From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of John Crockett Eric: Back here in the Southeast there are two UHF MotoTrbo repeaters being coordinated in the Charlotte, NC area. It will be interesting if this digital technology will take off. In SC we have enough D-Star repeaters to cover the state, but the number of users is low. It will take a long time before it is viable as a parallel statewide communications system. Analog FM is still the back bone of our statewide communications system and it will be for years to come. www.scheart. http://www.scheart.us/ us The question in the back of my mind is. Is MotoTrbo the digital technology that will leap frog D-Star? I guess we can stay tuned for the outcome! John, KC4YI
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I am aware of the repeaters in Cal and that is awesome. The new APX series radio is TDMA compliant and if past history continues to prevail the TDMA phase 2 P25 will be TDMA. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:38 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Here in Southern CA. (LA, Orange, and San Diego counties) we have at least 4 Mototrbo repeaters running AND IPSC linked on the amateur band. There are more than two dozen users known to have invested in Trbo radios with interest growing steadily. Given the behind-the-scenes Mototrbo activity that has been taking place over the past two years in amateur radio it's become increasingly clear that the system works well and that Motorola is continuing to improve or release features and tools all the time. They really hope APCO adopts their TDMA format as the next generation of P25 but that is yet to be seen meanwhile Motorola is clearly focused on developing the Mototrbo platform. Gary -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:12 AM To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Mike, In the DC area there is currently one UHF machine and about 5-10 amateurs playing with MOTOTRBO. I would be interested to know what other areas are using for setting or are they leaving everything in the default setting? Dan KA8YPY
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Hi Glen, Go to www.yahoo.com/groups and search for the MT-USA group and register their. Mike WB6WUI will most likely email a welcome letter back to you and you can get the information your looking for. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of w...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 3:00 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems I carry a Trbo daily for work with analog amateur in it. I have installed both standalone and IP connect repeaters at our sites. I can't find info on Trbo-6. Are many amateur Trbo repeaters connected? I would love to put on in place and connect it. Glenn W8AK In a message dated 2/14/2010 3:42:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, n6...@cox.net writes: Here in Southern CA. (LA, Orange, and San Diego counties) we have at least 4 Mototrbo repeaters running AND IPSC linked on the amateur band. There are more than two dozen users known to have invested in Trbo radios with interest growing steadily. Given the behind-the-scenes Mototrbo activity that has been taking place over the past two years in amateur radio it's become increasingly clear that the system works well and that Motorola is continuing to improve or release features and tools all the time. They really hope APCO adopts their TDMA format as the next generation of P25 but that is yet to be seen meanwhile Motorola is clearly focused on developing the Mototrbo platform. Gary -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:12 AM To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Mike, In the DC area there is currently one UHF machine and about 5-10 amateurs playing with MOTOTRBO. I would be interested to know what other areas are using for setting or are they leaving everything in the default setting? Dan KA8YPY
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P25 phase 2 is indeed supposed to be TDMA, the question is will it be Motorola's implementation or another? Just because Motorola comes out with a system first does not always mean it will be accepted as the defacto standard, as was not the case with Motorola VSLEP for their 1st digital implementation. Dan KA8YPY On Feb 14, 2010, at 5:14 PM, k7...@skybeam.com wrote: I am aware of the repeaters in Cal and that is awesome. The new APX series radio is TDMA compliant and if past history continues to prevail the TDMA phase 2 P25 will be TDMA. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Gary Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:38 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Here in Southern CA. (LA, Orange, and San Diego counties) we have at least 4 Mototrbo repeaters running AND IPSC linked on the amateur band. There are more than two dozen users known to have invested in Trbo radios with interest growing steadily. Given the behind-the-scenes Mototrbo activity that has been taking place over the past two years in amateur radio it's become increasingly clear that the system works well and that Motorola is continuing to improve or release features and tools all the time. They really hope APCO adopts their TDMA format as the next generation of P25 but that is yet to be seen meanwhile Motorola is clearly focused on developing the Mototrbo platform. Gary -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:12 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Mike, In the DC area there is currently one UHF machine and about 5-10 amateurs playing with MOTOTRBO. I would be interested to know what other areas are using for setting or are they leaving everything in the default setting? Dan KA8YPY
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I think the Phase II standard is pretty much a done deal, it will be TDMA, and there are already Phase II systems on the air. Joe M. Dan Blasberg wrote: P25 phase 2 is indeed supposed to be TDMA, the question is will it be Motorola's implementation or another? Just because Motorola comes out with a system first does not always mean it will be accepted as the defacto standard, as was not the case with Motorola VSLEP for their 1st digital implementation. Dan KA8YPY On Feb 14, 2010, at 5:14 PM, k7...@skybeam.com wrote: I am aware of the repeaters in Cal and that is awesome. The new APX series radio is TDMA compliant and if past history continues to prevail the TDMA phase 2 P25 will be TDMA. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Gary Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:38 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Here in Southern CA. (LA, Orange, and San Diego counties) we have at least 4 Mototrbo repeaters running AND IPSC linked on the amateur band. There are more than two dozen users known to have invested in Trbo radios with interest growing steadily. Given the behind-the-scenes Mototrbo activity that has been taking place over the past two years in amateur radio it's become increasingly clear that the system works well and that Motorola is continuing to improve or release features and tools all the time. They really hope APCO adopts their TDMA format as the next generation of P25 but that is yet to be seen meanwhile Motorola is clearly focused on developing the Mototrbo platform. Gary -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:12 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Mike, In the DC area there is currently one UHF machine and about 5-10 amateurs playing with MOTOTRBO. I would be interested to know what other areas are using for setting or are they leaving everything in the default setting? Dan KA8YPY Yahoo! Groups Links
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The Phase 2 P25 standard is far from complete. And yes, there are several TDMA TYPE 2 systems up and working, but none are certified PHASE 2 P25 systems. I know in our county, the contract written with Motorola includes a statement about upgrading the system to an approved/certified Phase 2 system when the standard is complete, at no cost to the county. This not only includes infrustructure, but all of the radios as well. Now, back to the topic at had...MOTOTRBO Amateur SystemsIs everyone leaving the system setting in there respective defaults, or is there some recommendation for settings? Dan KA8YPY On Feb 14, 2010, at 9:40 PM, MCH wrote: I think the Phase II standard is pretty much a done deal, it will be TDMA, and there are already Phase II systems on the air. Joe M. Dan Blasberg wrote: P25 phase 2 is indeed supposed to be TDMA, the question is will it be Motorola's implementation or another? Just because Motorola comes out with a system first does not always mean it will be accepted as the defacto standard, as was not the case with Motorola VSLEP for their 1st digital implementation. Dan KA8YPY On Feb 14, 2010, at 5:14 PM, k7...@skybeam.com wrote: I am aware of the repeaters in Cal and that is awesome. The new APX series radio is TDMA compliant and if past history continues to prevail the TDMA phase 2 P25 will be TDMA. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Gary Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:38 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Here in Southern CA. (LA, Orange, and San Diego counties) we have at least 4 Mototrbo repeaters running AND IPSC linked on the amateur band. There are more than two dozen users known to have invested in Trbo radios with interest growing steadily. Given the behind-the-scenes Mototrbo activity that has been taking place over the past two years in amateur radio it's become increasingly clear that the system works well and that Motorola is continuing to improve or release features and tools all the time. They really hope APCO adopts their TDMA format as the next generation of P25 but that is yet to be seen meanwhile Motorola is clearly focused on developing the Mototrbo platform. Gary -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:12 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Mike, In the DC area there is currently one UHF machine and about 5-10 amateurs playing with MOTOTRBO. I would be interested to know what other areas are using for setting or are they leaving everything in the default setting? Dan KA8YPY Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links
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Hi Dan, Agree with the TDMA upgrade but were not supposed to talk about that now, ha ha. I think most of us who are installing the trbo systems are using color code 1 and some could be using other codes. I think it would be neat if there were a web site that compiled all the systems owners could login and add their information to their prospective users. I am going to keep our system on color code 1 using IPSC IP Site Connect. Slot 1 is for local traffic and slot 2 is for IPSC IP Site Connect. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 9:14 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems The Phase 2 P25 standard is far from complete. And yes, there are several TDMA TYPE 2 systems up and working, but none are certified PHASE 2 P25 systems. I know in our county, the contract written with Motorola includes a statement about upgrading the system to an approved/certified Phase 2 system when the standard is complete, at no cost to the county. This not only includes infrustructure, but all of the radios as well. Now, back to the topic at had...MOTOTRBO Amateur SystemsIs everyone leaving the system setting in there respective defaults, or is there some recommendation for settings? Dan KA8YPY On Feb 14, 2010, at 9:40 PM, MCH wrote: I think the Phase II standard is pretty much a done deal, it will be TDMA, and there are already Phase II systems on the air. Joe M. Dan Blasberg wrote: P25 phase 2 is indeed supposed to be TDMA, the question is will it be Motorola's implementation or another? Just because Motorola comes out with a system first does not always mean it will be accepted as the defacto standard, as was not the case with Motorola VSLEP for their 1st digital implementation. Dan KA8YPY On Feb 14, 2010, at 5:14 PM, k7...@skybeam. mailto:k7pfj%40skybeam.com com wrote: I am aware of the repeaters in Cal and that is awesome. The new APX series radio is TDMA compliant and if past history continues to prevail the TDMA phase 2 P25 will be TDMA. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Gary Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:38 PM To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Here in Southern CA. (LA, Orange, and San Diego counties) we have at least 4 Mototrbo repeaters running AND IPSC linked on the amateur band. There are more than two dozen users known to have invested in Trbo radios with interest growing steadily. Given the behind-the-scenes Mototrbo activity that has been taking place over the past two years in amateur radio it's become increasingly clear that the system works well and that Motorola is continuing to improve or release features and tools all the time. They really hope APCO adopts their TDMA format as the next generation of P25 but that is yet to be seen meanwhile Motorola is clearly focused on developing the Mototrbo platform. Gary -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:12 AM To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Mike, In the DC area there is currently one UHF machine and about 5-10 amateurs playing with MOTOTRBO. I would be interested to know what other areas are using for setting or are they leaving everything in the default setting? Dan KA8YPY Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links
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Mike, Thanks for the info, next time I am through your neck of the woods on my way to visit family, i will load up your machine in the HT. Dan KA8YPY On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:00 AM, k7...@skybeam.com k7...@skybeam.com wrote: Hi Dan, Agree with the TDMA upgrade but were not supposed to talk about that now, ha ha. I think most of us who are installing the trbo systems are using color code 1 and some could be using other codes. I think it would be neat if there were a web site that compiled all the systems owners could login and add their information to their prospective users. I am going to keep our system on color code 1 using IPSC IP Site Connect. Slot 1 is for local traffic and slot 2 is for IPSC IP Site Connect. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 9:14 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems The Phase 2 P25 standard is far from complete. And yes, there are several TDMA TYPE 2 systems up and working, but none are certified PHASE 2 P25 systems. I know in our county, the contract written with Motorola includes a statement about upgrading the system to an approved/certified Phase 2 system when the standard is complete, at no cost to the county. This not only includes infrustructure, but all of the radios as well. Now, back to the topic at had...MOTOTRBO Amateur SystemsIs everyone leaving the system setting in there respective defaults, or is there some recommendation for settings? Dan KA8YPY On Feb 14, 2010, at 9:40 PM, MCH wrote: I think the Phase II standard is pretty much a done deal, it will be TDMA, and there are already Phase II systems on the air. Joe M. Dan Blasberg wrote: P25 phase 2 is indeed supposed to be TDMA, the question is will it be Motorola's implementation or another? Just because Motorola comes out with a system first does not always mean it will be accepted as the defacto standard, as was not the case with Motorola VSLEP for their 1st digital implementation. Dan KA8YPY On Feb 14, 2010, at 5:14 PM, k7...@skybeam.com wrote: I am aware of the repeaters in Cal and that is awesome. The new APX series radio is TDMA compliant and if past history continues to prevail the TDMA phase 2 P25 will be TDMA. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Gary Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:38 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Here in Southern CA. (LA, Orange, and San Diego counties) we have at least 4 Mototrbo repeaters running AND IPSC linked on the amateur band. There are more than two dozen users known to have invested in Trbo radios with interest growing steadily. Given the behind-the-scenes Mototrbo activity that has been taking place over the past two years in amateur radio it's become increasingly clear that the system works well and that Motorola is continuing to improve or release features and tools all the time. They really hope APCO adopts their TDMA format as the next generation of P25 but that is yet to be seen meanwhile Motorola is clearly focused on developing the Mototrbo platform. Gary -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:12 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Mike, In the DC area there is currently one UHF machine and about 5-10 amateurs playing with MOTOTRBO. I would be interested to know what other areas are using for setting or are they leaving everything in the default setting? Dan KA8YPY Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links
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Sounds good well look for you on the air. By that time you may want to look at the web site to see if there are any more on line. www.rmham.org http://www.rmham.org/ Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:26 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Mike, Thanks for the info, next time I am through your neck of the woods on my way to visit family, i will load up your machine in the HT. Dan KA8YPY On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:00 AM, k7...@skybeam. mailto:k7pfj%40skybeam.com com k7...@skybeam. mailto:k7pfj%40skybeam.com com wrote: Hi Dan, Agree with the TDMA upgrade but were not supposed to talk about that now, ha ha. I think most of us who are installing the trbo systems are using color code 1 and some could be using other codes. I think it would be neat if there were a web site that compiled all the systems owners could login and add their information to their prospective users. I am going to keep our system on color code 1 using IPSC IP Site Connect. Slot 1 is for local traffic and slot 2 is for IPSC IP Site Connect. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 9:14 PM To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems The Phase 2 P25 standard is far from complete. And yes, there are several TDMA TYPE 2 systems up and working, but none are certified PHASE 2 P25 systems. I know in our county, the contract written with Motorola includes a statement about upgrading the system to an approved/certified Phase 2 system when the standard is complete, at no cost to the county. This not only includes infrustructure, but all of the radios as well. Now, back to the topic at had...MOTOTRBO Amateur SystemsIs everyone leaving the system setting in there respective defaults, or is there some recommendation for settings? Dan KA8YPY On Feb 14, 2010, at 9:40 PM, MCH wrote: I think the Phase II standard is pretty much a done deal, it will be TDMA, and there are already Phase II systems on the air. Joe M. Dan Blasberg wrote: P25 phase 2 is indeed supposed to be TDMA, the question is will it be Motorola's implementation or another? Just because Motorola comes out with a system first does not always mean it will be accepted as the defacto standard, as was not the case with Motorola VSLEP for their 1st digital implementation. Dan KA8YPY On Feb 14, 2010, at 5:14 PM, k7...@skybeam. mailto:k7pfj%40skybeam.com com wrote: I am aware of the repeaters in Cal and that is awesome. The new APX series radio is TDMA compliant and if past history continues to prevail the TDMA phase 2 P25 will be TDMA. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Gary Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:38 PM To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Here in Southern CA. (LA, Orange, and San Diego counties) we have at least 4 Mototrbo repeaters running AND IPSC linked on the amateur band. There are more than two dozen users known to have invested in Trbo radios with interest growing steadily. Given the behind-the-scenes Mototrbo activity that has been taking place over the past two years in amateur radio it's become increasingly clear that the system works well and that Motorola is continuing to improve or release features and tools all the time. They really hope APCO adopts their TDMA format as the next generation of P25 but that is yet to be seen meanwhile Motorola is clearly focused on developing the Mototrbo platform. Gary -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:12 AM To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Mike, In the DC area there is currently one UHF machine and about 5-10 amateurs playing with MOTOTRBO. I would be interested to know what other areas are using for setting or are they leaving everything
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Thanks Mike. Bookmarked. Dan On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:53 AM, k7...@skybeam.com k7...@skybeam.com wrote: Sounds good well look for you on the air. By that time you may want to look at the web site to see if there are any more on line. www.rmham.org Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:26 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Mike, Thanks for the info, next time I am through your neck of the woods on my way to visit family, i will load up your machine in the HT. Dan KA8YPY On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:00 AM, k7...@skybeam.com k7...@skybeam.com wrote: Hi Dan, Agree with the TDMA upgrade but were not supposed to talk about that now, ha ha. I think most of us who are installing the trbo systems are using color code 1 and some could be using other codes. I think it would be neat if there were a web site that compiled all the systems owners could login and add their information to their prospective users. I am going to keep our system on color code 1 using IPSC IP Site Connect. Slot 1 is for local traffic and slot 2 is for IPSC IP Site Connect. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 9:14 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems The Phase 2 P25 standard is far from complete. And yes, there are several TDMA TYPE 2 systems up and working, but none are certified PHASE 2 P25 systems. I know in our county, the contract written with Motorola includes a statement about upgrading the system to an approved/certified Phase 2 system when the standard is complete, at no cost to the county. This not only includes infrustructure, but all of the radios as well. Now, back to the topic at had...MOTOTRBO Amateur SystemsIs everyone leaving the system setting in there respective defaults, or is there some recommendation for settings? Dan KA8YPY On Feb 14, 2010, at 9:40 PM, MCH wrote: I think the Phase II standard is pretty much a done deal, it will be TDMA, and there are already Phase II systems on the air. Joe M. Dan Blasberg wrote: P25 phase 2 is indeed supposed to be TDMA, the question is will it be Motorola's implementation or another? Just because Motorola comes out with a system first does not always mean it will be accepted as the defacto standard, as was not the case with Motorola VSLEP for their 1st digital implementation. Dan KA8YPY On Feb 14, 2010, at 5:14 PM, k7...@skybeam.com wrote: I am aware of the repeaters in Cal and that is awesome. The new APX series radio is TDMA compliant and if past history continues to prevail the TDMA phase 2 P25 will be TDMA. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Gary Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:38 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Here in Southern CA. (LA, Orange, and San Diego counties) we have at least 4 Mototrbo repeaters running AND IPSC linked on the amateur band. There are more than two dozen users known to have invested in Trbo radios with interest growing steadily. Given the behind-the-scenes Mototrbo activity that has been taking place over the past two years in amateur radio it's become increasingly clear that the system works well and that Motorola is continuing to improve or release features and tools all the time. They really hope APCO adopts their TDMA format as the next generation of P25 but that is yet to be seen meanwhile Motorola is clearly focused on developing the Mototrbo platform. Gary -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Blasberg Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:12 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HAM Mototrbo Systems Mike, In the DC area there is currently one UHF machine and about 5-10 amateurs playing with MOTOTRBO. I would be interested to know what other areas are using for setting or are they leaving everything in the default setting? Dan KA8YPY Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links
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On Feb 14, 2010, at 11:54 AM, Tom Parker wrote: Firmware already upgrades a NXDN radio to P25, but alas, then it is no longer NXDN. I don't think you'll ever see P25 and turbo or NXDN in the same box. Big M did remove the XTL1500 from the above price book and put it in the dealer's price sheet last month. What specific radio will do both NXDN and P25... and what would firmware loads to do both legally, cost? Carrying a laptop and switching when needed, isn't a problem these days. Would be nice to get dual bang-for-buck, so to speak. -- Nate Duehr n...@natetech.com facebook.com/denverpilot twitter.com/denverpilot
