Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2005-01-03 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
Neil - you're the one with several ex-highway-patrol cars in your history The nearest I got to a public safety vehicle was the ex-DEA dodge dart undercover chase car. It had the ex-Arizona highway patrol UHF micor in it... By the way, Ed's chevy suburban will turn one million miles in

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2005-01-03 Thread JOHN MACKEY
Christ! My truck has over 300,000 miles on it. I can't imagine running a vehicle to a million. -- Original Message -- Received: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 12:00:21 AM CST From: Mike Morris WA6ILQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] SNIP By the way, Ed's chevy suburban will turn one million miles in another

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2005-01-03 Thread Wade Lake
I agree with Coy. snip That's the trouble with most of these post, and all of them using transformers. You are still driving audio back into the other output stage. That will sooner or later distroy the audio output PA !!! I've replaced many expensive PA Moduls becaue

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2005-01-03 Thread Wade Lake
This sounds like a viable solution on the surface, however, it may be more trouble than its worth. Care would have to be taken to get it to sound decent. The speaker grill would have to be sealed properly. Also, be careful if you use Maxtrac speakers for anything but Maxtracs. They were

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2005-01-03 Thread Neil McKie
My 1990 Chevy Suburban has 336,000+ miles on it now. I visited the transmission shop a few weeks ago and had the tranny replaced as the guy said it was probably a bit tired. The engine is original having never been apart except for a timing chain, front and rear seals and the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2005-01-03 Thread Q
Memories...1959 Chrysler Saratoga Police special,426 Hemi,push button automatic w/mechanical overdrive lever.Motorola tube radio on 37mhz,Speedo went to 160,certified. BIG gas tank...lousy mileage! Engine still lives in buddys rail dragster... Neil McKie wrote: I had one ex-police car (1961

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2005-01-03 Thread Neil McKie
I had one ex-police car (1961 Dodge Seneca) ... and an ex California Highway Patrol car (1969 Dodge Polara, with the 440 Magnum engine in it; would pass anything but a gas station.) I had fun with it too ... ;) Neil - WA6KLA Mike Morris WA6ILQ wrote: Neil - you're the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2005-01-03 Thread Joe Montierth
--- Q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Memories...1959 Chrysler Saratoga Police special,426 Hemi,push button automatic w/mechanical overdrive lever.Motorola tube radio on 37mhz,Speedo went to 160,certified. BIG gas tank...lousy mileage! Engine still lives in buddys rail dragster... I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2005-01-03 Thread Q
Joe Montierth wrote: --- Q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Memories...1959 Chrysler Saratoga Police special,426 Hemi,push button automatic w/mechanical overdrive lever.Motorola tube radio on 37mhz,Speedo went to 160,certified. BIG gas tank...lousy mileage! Engine still lives in buddys rail

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2005-01-01 Thread Q
You must be kidding?? If you dont have at least 2000 watts of gut pounding bass power,best leave it in the driveway!!! I run 4000 myself and my hearing is fine,just have to go to the restroom a lot... Mike Morris WA6ILQ wrote: At 01:44 PM 12/31/04, you wrote: On Fri, 31 Dec 2004

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2005-01-01 Thread Neil McKie
Back in the sixties, I worked for a background music provider. He used dual coil speakers for his customer installations. Reason for the dual coil was: Voice coil one: was for the music which the individual area user could control the music level. Voice coil two:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2005-01-01 Thread Neil McKie
Ya right ... Neil Q wrote: You must be kidding?? If you dont have at least 2000 watts of gut pounding bass power,best leave it in the driveway!!! I run 4000 myself and my hearing is fine,just have to go to the restroom a lot... Mike Morris WA6ILQ wrote: At 01:44 PM 12/31/04,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2005-01-01 Thread Ronny Julian
Al, I have not seen 6X9s for awhile either. Heres some in wall types that may fill the bill. http://www.nextag.com/buyer/outpdir.jsp?nxtg=1a899_F5BFB3DED6A711B5search=dual+voice+coil+speaker Al Wolfe wrote: Once upon a time you could buy 6 X 9 speakers with two voice coils, each 8

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2005-01-01 Thread Q
On a seriuos note,I used to use an old powered stereo add-on eq/amp to feed a couple of MastrII speakers which handled 6 radios.Advantage of equalizer was to kill any CTCSS and chop off the highs to reduce hiss and noise-worked very well! The inputs were a mix of cap and xfmr coupled schemes

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2005-01-01 Thread Mark Holman
to work in a Rock Roll Bar audio @ 1100 Watts Tight clean audio 1979-1980 Rock On !! M. H. - Original Message - From: Mike Morris WA6ILQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2005-01-01 Thread Adam T. Cately
At 12:14 PM 12/30/04 -0700, you wrote: Thats what I wanted to do, but this has to be a discrete solution. The radios have BTL output. Try using a couple of caps to isolate the voltage on the lines - take both speaker outputs to a mod transformer - IN on the secondaries, and OUT on the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2005-01-01 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 01:02 PM 12/31/04, you wrote: Once upon a time you could buy 6 X 9 speakers with two voice coils, each 8 ohms or so. Haven't seen one for years, but they may still be out there somewhere. Used to use one for just what you are wanting to do, run two rigs into one speaker. 73, Al, K9SI

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2004-12-31 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
Go over to your local car stereo shop - the place where they sell those 500w amps and build the latest and greatest boogie buggys or thump trucks - and get a pair of speaker isolator transformers. They may not call them that, but picture a 8 ohm in / 8 ohm out transformer about the size of a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2004-12-31 Thread DCFluX
I wouldn't trust the local stereo shops as far as I could throw them. Example: I saw a certified installer cut 8 inches of zip cord off of the reel Then he split it into 2 wires and then butt spliced the wires back to the original reel of wire! I didn't even bother to make him feel like a dumb

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2004-12-31 Thread Neil McKie
I think the Motorola Mitrek Consolette Base Station has a one to one transformer in it. If you need I can look up the part number. Neil - WA6KLA DCFluX wrote: I wouldn't trust the local stereo shops as far as I could throw them. Example: I saw a certified installer cut 8

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2004-12-31 Thread Chuck Kelsey
with that. You can mix lots of audio sources together. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: DCFluX [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 9:25 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing I wouldn't trust the local stereo shops

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2004-12-31 Thread Steven Passmore
, 2004 6:25 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing I wouldn't trust the local stereo shops as far as I could throw them. Example: I saw a certified installer cut 8 inches of zip cord off of the reel Then he split it into 2 wires and then butt spliced the wires back

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2004-12-31 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 06:25 PM 12/30/04, you wrote: I wouldn't trust the local stereo shops as far as I could throw them. Example: I saw a certified installer cut 8 inches of zip cord off of the reel Then he split it into 2 wires and then butt spliced the wires back to the original reel of wire! I didn't even

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2004-12-31 Thread Neil McKie
Yes, it works really, really well!! I used to use two speakers for four separate radios in my 1961 Dodge Seneca during the mid-sixties. I didn't use the 'big capacitor' either. If one of the radios was not turned on, it worked anyway. I simply 'refuse' to tell you it won't

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2004-12-31 Thread Mark Holman
. - Original Message - From: Mike Morris WA6ILQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 9:18 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing Go over to your local car stereo shop - the place where they sell those 500w amps and build

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2004-12-31 Thread Tedd Doda
On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 15:02:43 -0600, Al Wolfe wrote: Once upon a time you could buy 6 X 9 speakers with two voice coils, Just make sure your radios filter out the PL! I can just imagine what a 100Hz tone would sound like through a 6x9 :) Tedd Doda, VE3TJD Lazer Audio and Electronics Baden,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2004-12-31 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 01:44 PM 12/31/04, you wrote: On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 15:02:43 -0600, Al Wolfe wrote: Once upon a time you could buy 6 X 9 speakers with two voice coils, Just make sure your radios filter out the PL! True! I can just imagine what a 100Hz tone would sound like through a 6x9 :) Probably just

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2004-12-30 Thread DCFluX
Thats what I wanted to do, but this has to be a discrete solution. The radios have BTL output. On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 19:03:04 -, Coy Hilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, Use a Opamp mixer followed by a audio PA chip. You can build the mixer real cheap and depending on how much audio

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2004-12-30 Thread Joe Montierth
Here's what you can do if both radios are transformerless and have a single hot side and a ground side. This will not work if both speaker leads are hot, this will only work if the speaker amp goes through a big capacitor then to the speaker, the other side grounded: Wire the hot side of each

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2004-12-30 Thread DCFluX
I love it, but the radios have Hot plus and minus On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 13:40:00 -0800 (PST), Joe Montierth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's what you can do if both radios are transformerless and have a single hot side and a ground side. This will not work if both speaker leads are hot, this