Re: NT Restore from a Mac
RTFM...it's in the manual and it works perfectly john From: Nick Scalise [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 14:29:59 -0600 To: retro-talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: NT Restore from a Mac I saw it posted here a while back. Does anyone have the procedure for a complete NT restore from Retrospect Mac? -- Nick Scalise [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Solstice
That's what I was talking about perfectly. We use legato for our Unix backups, but it just blew on windows and the Macs. The unique thing about Dantz, is that a lot of the folks their view *restoring* as Retrospect's biggest priority. This makes sense, as if the restores are untenable, or unreliable, what good is backing up? So a lot of the 'lack' of features in Retrospect are due to this focus on restoration. Considering the garbage that restoring requires with other products, I think Dantz has the right idea. john From: Pam Lefkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 19:58:22 -0600 To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Solstice the best way is to do a test with a test Mac running the legato client. Do a *complete* full backup, then wipe the drive and see how long it takes to restore it. I'm willing to bet that any glaring weaknesses in Legato will pop up wicked fast john It isn't the speed at which the restore on the client is performed but, instead, the accuracy with which it is done. When you do the Legato equivalent of a "restore entire disk", will Legato put everything back in its rightful place and leave the client as if nothing had happened? Will the restore leave the user feeling like she's sitting down at her machine and can start working right away or will she feel that she has to first install and configure everything before being able to work? I'd be willing to sacrifice some speed so long as accuracy and security and reliability are there. I've not used Legato so I can't speak to what its detailed functions are, but another good test would be to put a Legato client on a portable and then remove the portable from the network for a day or two. See how well Legato handles the portable's unattended backup **without user or administrative intervention** as it reattaches to the network the next day. Hope this helps, Pam -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Any comments on Veritas Netbackup?
Thanks to all for your response. Because of them Solstice has been put on hold. But of course our net admin now is looking at "veritas netbackup". If anyone has any experience with that I would love to "share" it with the net admin. So far Retrospect has come up the winner, but it is only being used for Macs. I have proposed that he use it also on the Windows machines, but he hasn't bitten yet. Tom * * Apple Solution Expert Member* *Apple Product Professional * * Apple Developer Connection Select Member * * Thomas Myers, | MAILTO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * ITA,Inc. | http://www.itainc.com* * 1250 Scottsville Road, Ste 2 | Phone: (716) 328-7380* * Rochester, New York 14624-5757 | FAX: (716) 328-8269* * -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Backups via 802.11b
We are about to roll out wireless ethernet (AirPort) on all our PowerBooks via Lucent WaveLan PC cards and AirPort enabled G4 towers. I was wondering if anyone has any experience with AirPort in regards to how it interacts with Retrospect. We have been backing up these laptops via 10/100 without any problems. Any comments or feedback would be appreciated. Andrew Philipoff Computer Resource Specialist Magnetic Resonance Science Center University of California, San Francisco 415-476-1709 415-476-8809 fax 415-719-0067 pager -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: volume trashed
Ryan, Error -60 is an Apple operating system error. Apple's own error code documentation describes it as "bad master directory block." I'd say that drive is having major problems (though "volume trashed" is rather dramatic!). Run disk utilities on the drive, including Disk First Aid, Apple Drive Setup's "Test Disk" function (or the corresponding function of whatever formatting utility you use), plus either Norton Utilities or Tech Tool Pro. I'm positive one or more of these will find a major problem. If you get no luck with these, please call us directly. Regards, Matthew Tevenan Technical Support Specialist Dantz Development Corporation 925.253.3050 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Ryan La Riviere [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 01:18:26 -0500 To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: volume trashed All, What does this mean? --- *Error* Volume "Network Clients:Desktop - Workstation:IAE Lab Manager:System" completed with error -60: volume trashed. --- Considering it's the users System Folder volume, it has me a little concerned. -- Ryan La Riviere Lab Services Coordinator; Drexel University 215.895.6010 ICQ: 11747071, 44292959 http://staff.tdec.drexel.edu/larz -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Backups via 802.11b
Andrew, Only issue we've had is that we don't see very good backup speeds over 802.11. Best we ever get is 30mb/min over TCP/IP. And this is under "ideal" conditions - only 1 laptop on the wireless segment, 20ft away from the basestation. But other than the speed issue, things work great. I've never had a backup fail or had any other problems. Our backup server is a 233 beige G3, AIT changer on a 100mbit switched port. Our iBooks and WaveLan enabled PC Mac laptops all connect to Lucent WavePoint base stations (so we're not exactly talking "apples to apples" here since we don't use Airport bases). Each WavePoint has its own 100mbit switched port on the same switch as the Retrospect server. I know, I know, it seems a waste of good bandwidth to plug a WavePoint into a 100mbit switched port but it just makes me *feel* better to have those things on their own segments! =) HTH, Mark Maytum Pompanoosuc Mills Corporation Andrew Philipoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/02/00 11:43 AM Please respond to "retro-talk" To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Backups via 802.11b We are about to roll out wireless ethernet (AirPort) on all our PowerBooks via Lucent WaveLan PC cards and AirPort enabled G4 towers. I was wondering if anyone has any experience with AirPort in regards to how it interacts with Retrospect. We have been backing up these laptops via 10/100 without any problems. Any comments or feedback would be appreciated. Andrew Philipoff Computer Resource Specialist Magnetic Resonance Science Center University of California, San Francisco 415-476-1709 415-476-8809 fax 415-719-0067 pager -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NT Restore from a Mac
It's worked perfectly for me in around 10 cases out of 10 tries From: Chris Freemesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 09:17:27 -0500 To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: NT Restore from a Mac I saw it posted here a while back. Does anyone have the procedure for a complete NT restore from Retrospect Mac? -- Nick Scalise [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here's what you need to do: 1) Format the PC's hard drive 2) Install a fresh copy of NT to a temporary directory (like C:\WINTEMP) 3) Install the Retrospect Client software to your temporary directory 4) Activate the client software from your backup server 5) Restore the contents of the hard drive back to the PC. Be sure to do a "Restore entire disk", and tell it to overwrite existing files. Do NOT reboot when done. 6) Use the Registry Backup Manager from your TEMPORARY Windows install to restore the Registry. Set the destination to be the RESTORED Windows NT folder. In theory, the backup will restore the computer to the way it was before, and upon reboot, the system will boot from the restored Windows directory. In that case, you can delete the temporary Windows installation. I'll also add that I've never been able to get this to work with NT. I fault NT for this, not Retrospect. Seems that if you don't have one of those idiotic Windows NT information disks you're supposed to make from time to time, the restored NT can't be made to boot. Chris _ Chris Freemesser, University of Rochester Department of Brain Cognitive Sciences / Center for Visual Science Meliora Hall, Room 244 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (716)275-0786 _ -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Backups via 802.11b
On 02/02/2000 somewhere around the time of 08:43 -0800, Andrew Philipoff spoke about "Backups via 802.11b": We are about to roll out wireless ethernet (AirPort) on all our PowerBooks via Lucent WaveLan PC cards and AirPort enabled G4 towers. I was wondering if anyone has any experience with AirPort in regards to how it interacts with Retrospect. We have been backing up these laptops via 10/100 without any problems. Any comments or feedback would be appreciated. I have also had very good experiences with wireless and backing up (other than the speed issues Mark had brought up). But I'm speaking from using a 2MB Lucent card with a 8MB card in a WaveLan access point. The 11MB cards are, for all intends, are the same as the Apple cards. Especially now that you can use the Apple Airport software with the 11MB Lucent cards. -- Ryan La Riviere Lab Services Coordinator; Drexel University 215.895.6010 ICQ: 11747071, 44292959 http://staff.tdec.drexel.edu/larz -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: volume trashed
On 02/02/2000 somewhere around the time of 08:18 -0800, Matthew Tevenan spoke about "Re: volume trashed": Error -60 is an Apple operating system error. Apple's own error code documentation describes it as "bad master directory block." I'd say that drive is having major problems (though "volume trashed" is rather dramatic!). Thanks. I was hoping it was just something like as "bad master directory block" since he's still using the machine as opposed to a problem with Retro having a problem accessing the client or some such. -- Ryan La Riviere Lab Services Coordinator; Drexel University 215.895.6010 ICQ: 11747071, 44292959 http://staff.tdec.drexel.edu/larz -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NT Restore from a Mac
After RTFM (thanks John), I was successful in getting a complete restore from my Mac to NT. The secret is to have RegCopy turned on and copying the registry immediately before the backup begins. This will give a pristine snapshot of the state of the computer. Then be sure to run RegCopy from the temp NT install to install the Registry back to it's rightful place after the restore. on 02/02/2000 1:12 PM, Welch, John C. wrote: It's worked perfectly for me in around 10 cases out of 10 tries -- Nick Scalise [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Seagate discontinues AIT
I was all set to buy another AIT drive and discovered that Seagate has discontinued them. They no longer list any AIT drives on their web page. I put a call into Seagate Pre-Sales Support and the guy said that they have decided to stop licensing the technology from Sony and instead are focusing on the upcoming Linear Tape-Open Technology (LTO). Anyone else hear of this? -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Solstice
I'll second that emotion. It is darn near a *daily* battle to keep my BackupExec backups running on my NT servers. From BackupExec hanging to it not liking the tapes I just erased for the night's round of backups, it's a pain. Retrospect is a little better. I created the scripts a long time ago. I erase the tapes each day before the night's backup. The servers (BW G3-450's) have run without a restart for weeks and months. I rebooted them last week just because it's a good idea. Retrospect requires no hand-holding. Just plug and go play. Brad. -Original Message- From: Welch, John C. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 7:52 AM To: retro-talk Subject: Re: Solstice That's what I was talking about perfectly. We use legato for our Unix backups, but it just blew on windows and the Macs. The unique thing about Dantz, is that a lot of the folks their view *restoring* as Retrospect's biggest priority. This makes sense, as if the restores are untenable, or unreliable, what good is backing up? So a lot of the 'lack' of features in Retrospect are due to this focus on restoration. Considering the garbage that restoring requires with other products, I think Dantz has the right idea. john From: Pam Lefkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 19:58:22 -0600 To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Solstice the best way is to do a test with a test Mac running the legato client. Do a *complete* full backup, then wipe the drive and see how long it takes to restore it. I'm willing to bet that any glaring weaknesses in Legato will pop up wicked fast john It isn't the speed at which the restore on the client is performed but, instead, the accuracy with which it is done. When you do the Legato equivalent of a "restore entire disk", will Legato put everything back in its rightful place and leave the client as if nothing had happened? Will the restore leave the user feeling like she's sitting down at her machine and can start working right away or will she feel that she has to first install and configure everything before being able to work? I'd be willing to sacrifice some speed so long as accuracy and security and reliability are there. I've not used Legato so I can't speak to what its detailed functions are, but another good test would be to put a Legato client on a portable and then remove the portable from the network for a day or two. See how well Legato handles the portable's unattended backup **without user or administrative intervention** as it reattaches to the network the next day. Hope this helps, Pam -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
