Re: ASIP 6.2 and Retrospect 4.2A Client

[matt barkdull]

Retrospect should not corrupt anything.  The worst case is that the 
mail files will not be backed up.

Why?   Retrospect does a scan of the volume and reads in all the 
names and modification dates.  If the modification date is changed 
between the scan and when the file is actually suppose to be backed 
up, it will be skipped.

I assume that you have the ASIP mail server not running as well. Make 
sure it is not.  That's a conflict with EIMS.


To get around those possible problems, you need to make sure EIMS is 
shutdown during the backup.  Also make sure that all clients are 
disconnected from the file server to avoid them changing files during 
the backup.



>I am running AppleShare IP, Retrospect, and EIMS on the same server.  Will I
>run into any problems when I do a backup of that machine?  I don't want to
>corrupt any of the EIMS mail data.
>
>Thanks,
>Jeff



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Re: ASIP 6.2 and Retrospect 4.2A Client

[Jeff Grossman]

I am running AppleShare IP, Retrospect, and EIMS on the same server.  Will I
run into any problems when I do a backup of that machine?  I don't want to
corrupt any of the EIMS mail data.

Thanks,
Jeff
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> From: matt barkdull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: "retro-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 12:33:00 -0900
> To: "retro-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: ASIP 6.2 and Retrospect 4.2A Client
> 
> Matt, you need to make sure you put a filter in there to not backup
> the mail database.  Otherwise it will lock up every time.
> 
> Do an Exclude filter on "AppleShare IP Mail" database
> 
> This worked for me.  Of course, it's not backing up the mail
> database.  There is a script that Dantz supplies that will shutdown
> the mail server, make a duplicate of the AppleShare IP Mail database
> and then start the server back up. It works great, but you still need
> the filter.  It will just backup the copy of the database.
> 
> 
>> Are there any conflicts between these two?
>> 
>> A B+W G3 fileserver of ours has been crashing consistently during the
>> compare process (while the Retrospect server logs a 519 error). Last Night I
>> Stopped ASIP and restarted with all of its extensions disabled (and a few
>> other unnecessary: Colorsync, ARA, and a few MS and Macromedia Internet
>> extensions) and the backup went without a hitch.
>> 
>> TIA
>> 
>> -matt
> 
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Re: ASIP 6.2 and Retrospect 4.2A Client

[Irena Solomon]

You should also make sure that you have the AppleShare Memory Manager
extension if it is required for your configuration. From the Retrospect 4.3
Readme:

AppleShare IP 5.0 or later may freeze or crash when Retrospect is open,
though Retrospect is not the cause. Apple Computer has provided a fix for
this problem with AppleShare IP, an extension known as the AppleShare Memory
Manager, which you should obtain and use. You can learn more about and
download the extension from Apple:

http://asu.info.apple.com/swupdates.nsf/artnum/n10129

In response to your question, though, no, there are no direct conflicts
between the Retrospect client and ASIP 6.x.

Regards,

Irena Solomon
Dantz Technical Support
925.253.3050

 
> Matt, you need to make sure you put a filter in there to not backup
> the mail database.  Otherwise it will lock up every time.
> 
> Do an Exclude filter on "AppleShare IP Mail" database
> 
> This worked for me.  Of course, it's not backing up the mail
> database.  There is a script that Dantz supplies that will shutdown
> the mail server, make a duplicate of the AppleShare IP Mail database
> and then start the server back up. It works great, but you still need
> the filter.  It will just backup the copy of the database.
> 
> 
>> Are there any conflicts between these two?
>> 
>> A B+W G3 fileserver of ours has been crashing consistently during the
>> compare process (while the Retrospect server logs a 519 error). Last Night I
>> Stopped ASIP and restarted with all of its extensions disabled (and a few
>> other unnecessary: Colorsync, ARA, and a few MS and Macromedia Internet
>> extensions) and the backup went without a hitch.
>> 
>> TIA
>> 
>> -matt



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Re: ASIP 6.2 and Retrospect 4.2A Client

[Pam Lefkowitz]

>Are there any conflicts between these two?
>
>A B+W G3 fileserver of ours has been crashing consistently during the
>compare process (while the Retrospect server logs a 519 error). Last Night I
>Stopped ASIP and restarted with all of its extensions disabled (and a few
>other unnecessary: Colorsync, ARA, and a few MS and Macromedia Internet
>extensions) and the backup went without a hitch.
>
>TIA
>
>-matt

ASIP 6.2 is a bad puppy in and of itself. Frankly, I'd upgrade it to 
6.3.x and Retrospect to 4.3. Then see if those nasty 519's clear up and 
let us know. Of course, I'd strongly encourage moving the Retrospect 
server to a machine that isn't running ASIP also, but that may not be 
possible for everyone.

Pam


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Re: ASIP 6.2 and Retrospect 4.2A Client

[matt barkdull]

Matt, you need to make sure you put a filter in there to not backup 
the mail database.  Otherwise it will lock up every time.

Do an Exclude filter on "AppleShare IP Mail" database

This worked for me.  Of course, it's not backing up the mail 
database.  There is a script that Dantz supplies that will shutdown 
the mail server, make a duplicate of the AppleShare IP Mail database 
and then start the server back up. It works great, but you still need 
the filter.  It will just backup the copy of the database.


>Are there any conflicts between these two?
>
>A B+W G3 fileserver of ours has been crashing consistently during the
>compare process (while the Retrospect server logs a 519 error). Last Night I
>Stopped ASIP and restarted with all of its extensions disabled (and a few
>other unnecessary: Colorsync, ARA, and a few MS and Macromedia Internet
>extensions) and the backup went without a hitch.
>
>TIA
>
>-matt



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Silent Installation of Retrospect Client 5.15

[Thone, Bradley A (Sbcsi)]

Hi, All!

Well, I did some digging.

It IS possible to install (or uninstall) Retrospect Client 5.15 silently.

1. Using WinZip (or similar), extract the files contained in "CLIENT
SETUP.EXE" to a folder.
   In this folder will be 10 files, one of them will be "SETUP.EXE".
2. In your C:\WINNT folder, delete the file SETUP.ISS (or just rename it if
you want).
3. Run "SETUP.EXE -R" from the folder created in #1.
   The "-R" tells setup to record the installation options you select during
the install.
4. Complete the installation (or removal).
5. The installer has created a file called SETUP.ISS in your C:\WINNT
folder. Copy that to the source files folder created in #1.

What I did:

UNINSTALLATION
Uninstalled Retrospect (by doing a SETUP -R)
Copied SETUP.ISS from C:\WINNT to my source files folder, renaming it to
REMOVE.ISS.
Deleted SETUP.ISS from C:\WINNT

INSTALLATION WITH REBOOT
Installed Retrospect (by doing a SETUP -R)
Copied SETUP.ISS from C:\WINNT to my source files folder, renaming it to
REBOOT.ISS.
Deleted SETUP.ISS from C:\WINNT

INSTALLATION WITHOUT REBOOT
Installed Retrospect (by doing a SETUP -R)
Copied SETUP.ISS from C:\WINNT to my source files folder, renaming it to
NOREBOOT.ISS.
Deleted SETUP.ISS from C:\WINNT
Started Retrospect Client service (NET START "RETROSPECT CLIENT")

In my logon scripts I:
1. Copy the source files folder to the user's workstation
2. Copy REMOVE.ISS to SETUP.ISS
3. Run SETUP -S for silent installation (removal in this case)
4. Copy NOREBOOT.ISS to SETUP.ISS
5. Run SETUP -S (installation this time)
6. Start the service (NET START "Retrospect Client")

Now I can perform new installs, upgrades, or removals from logon scripts.

Hope this helps y'all out.

Now, if Dantz would just make the client installations generic (meaning
don't copy the workstation name into the CONFIG value in the registry), and
break out that CONFIG data into multiple readable registry values and data,
I'd be happy as a clam.

Brad Thone


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RE: Back-up files are too large [MacRAR and MacUnRAR]

[Dan Willson]

Mac versions of RAR are here (I can't say enough kind words about
versiontracker.com):

MacRAR 2.5.1 (shareware, release date 9/8/2000)
http://www.versiontracker.com/moreinfo.fcgi?id=2620

MacUnRAR 1.2 (freeware, release date 11/151999)
http://www.versiontracker.com/moreinfo.fcgi?id=2684

Enjoy!

Cheers,
Dan

Daniel Willson
Publications Specialist
University of Alabama at Birmingham
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Facsimile: (205) 975-4416


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> What you are describing is essentially what the RAR format does.
> Do a search for "RAR" on:
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ASIP 6.2 and Retrospect 4.2A Client

[matt holland]

Are there any conflicts between these two?

A B+W G3 fileserver of ours has been crashing consistently during the
compare process (while the Retrospect server logs a 519 error). Last Night I
Stopped ASIP and restarted with all of its extensions disabled (and a few
other unnecessary: Colorsync, ARA, and a few MS and Macromedia Internet
extensions) and the backup went without a hitch.

TIA

-matt



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RE: Daily Problems with out of Sync Error messages...

[Thone, Bradley A (Sbcsi)]

I see this on Retrospect 5.15 with a Compaq server and a Compaq AIT loader
using the built-in SCSI port.

I do not see this on Retrospect 5.15 with a Compaq server and a Compaq AIT
loader using an Adaptec 2940UW.

Check your SCSI bus for errors (controller, cable, and device).

Brad.

-Original Message-
From: David Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 9:23 AM
To: retro-talk
Subject: Re: Daily Problems with out of Sync Error messages...


I've seen this when the volume containing the catalogs is almost full
and the save after the backup is completed fails. Also if the directory
of this volume is corrupted.


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Re: Daily Problems with out of Sync Error messages...

[David Ross]

I've seen this when the volume containing the catalogs is almost full
and the save after the backup is completed fails. Also if the directory
of this volume is corrupted.


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