Re: Firewire VXA tape drive

2001-01-12 Thread John Gee

   2) Is the new drive now a native firewire implementation, or is it
  just the old drive with the adaptor inside the box instead of outside
  the box?

First, there are NO native FireWire storage devices on the market. All
current FireWire drives are using a bridge solution whether it is an ATAPI
or SCSI bridge. Apple understands the need to support the current bridged
USB and FireWire storage solutions for Mac OS X.

The new FireWire Ecrix drive has the bridge built inside the case. Ecrix can
offer the best information on hardware specifics.

Ecrix have responded to a separate question with "The difference in 
the two firewire drives is mostly cosmetic".


Thanks Irena for the helpful comments on all my questions.
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script advice

2001-01-12 Thread Donovan Brooke


oops, wanted to post this again not under a wrong subheadding

Hello retro,
 I was wondering if I could get some suggestions
on a back-up script/system I've put together.
I am backing up our ASIP server via mounted volumes on another host
G4 computer to a Mac
file on a USB 60 gig HD. Things are working great!!!
I have two back-up set files that sum up
to about 29 gigs (compressed). Daily back-ups affect the file
size only minimally. ( did I express that I am very
happy with this setup? :-) Anyway, I am about ready to throw
a stick in the spokes of my system though.
This small USB (buslink) back up drive is great. It can be unplugged
and carried if needed. Here
is my q: (finally)
 We bought a second USB (buslink) 60gig drive.
Our Idea is to alternate the two drives every week. (similiar
to changing tapes) We then would take the "off-drive" to an off-site
location. (because of our xtreme paranoia)
So, since I have a full backup on this first drive I need to know the
best way to get the second drive going. My
thinking was I could manually copy the back-up set files from #1 drive
to #2 drive and then name the second
drive the same as the first (after shutting off the first drive of
course) Would retrospect recognize this as the same
back-up set? If yes, in another week or so when its time to change
back to the first drive, is there any problems
relating to the scripts that would see the old info as a conflict?
 With tapes, Retro can ask you for the appropriate
b/u tape. But I am not sure about alternat HD's
 If this is not going to work please offer alternitive
routes using our goals and equipment.
Thanks. - D
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Re: Retrospect scripts and OS9

2001-01-12 Thread Chad S. Chelius

Tim,
I'm not sure if I understand your question.  Are you talking about a
Retrospect script or an Applescript?  Also what do you mean by clean up?
Please explain.

Chad Chelius
 I had a script modified to clean up the Retrospect Control Panel prefs
 on the client machines. I upgraded one of my users to an iMac running
 OS9 and tried to run the script and it will not run under OS9.
 how can I edit the script to run in OS9?
 Tim



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Re: 2gb limit?

2001-01-12 Thread jakob krabbe

At 19:34 2001-01-11 -0800, you wrote: 
I need to check to be sure, but I believe both are HFS +.  
The powerbook is running Retrospect, and backing itself up 
onto a firewire drive.
-- 

The 2 gb limit is damn annoying but you have to get used to it. The limit
is the mac os itself, not retrospect.

Also, and this is important, the limit is only connected with making
back-ups to another hd, if you move on to tapes there are no limits anymore.

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I belived I read in the datasheets for Mac OS Server X that the maximum
file size is set to 2 terrabytes and if so that is another thing that would
differ from the current OS.

thanx,

/ jakob


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similar question about firewire/SCSI

2001-01-12 Thread Jeffry C. Nichols

In one of the messages, there was talk about firewire to SCSI bridges 
and how Retrospect supports them.

Is this support for specifically made devices?  The reason I ask is 
we just bought a new iMac and it gets less use overall than the 
current backup computer.  I was considering purchasing a firewire to 
SCSI converter (Orange Micro makes one for $100) to run our Exabyte 
external tape drive.

Would this configuration work?  Is the converter going to slow things 
down even more than the current set up? (beige G3 tower, built-in 
SCSI).

Thanks.

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Rice University
Biochemistry Department
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Re: 2gb limit?

2001-01-12 Thread Glenn L. Austin

 At 19:34 2001-01-11 -0800, you wrote:
 I need to check to be sure, but I believe both are HFS +.
 The powerbook is running Retrospect, and backing itself up
 onto a firewire drive.
 -- 
 
 The 2 gb limit is damn annoying but you have to get used to it. The limit
 is the mac os itself, not retrospect.

Well, that's not entirely true -- the other night I captured 54 minutes of
video at 340x240x16, and the resulting file is almost 15Gb in size, so files
bigger than 2Gb are entirely possible.

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Re: 2gb limit?

2001-01-12 Thread Julia Frizzell

At 9:46 AM -0800 1/12/01, Glenn L. Austin wrote:
   At 19:34 2001-01-11 -0800, you wrote:
  I need to check to be sure, but I believe both are HFS +.
  The powerbook is running Retrospect, and backing itself up
  onto a firewire drive.
  --

  The 2 gb limit is damn annoying but you have to get used to it. The limit
  is the mac os itself, not retrospect.

Well, that's not entirely true -- the other night I captured 54 minutes of
video at 340x240x16, and the resulting file is almost 15Gb in size, so files
bigger than 2Gb are entirely possible.

It depends entirely on what OS you're using.

OS9 and higher supports file sizes larger than 2GB. 8.6 and lower do not.

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Re: 2gb limit?

2001-01-12 Thread Shawn Welter

Mac os 9 supported files over 2gb. To use retrospect you need version 
4.3. I currently back up 40 mac clients and 10 pc clients to 60gb IDE 
drives using mac files. Some backup sets are 12gb apiece. We do 
massive selecting as all are software is installed by filewave. Each 
client averages about 100mb of data. Our servers are backed up using 
a separate machine to a DLT changer.


shawn



   At 19:34 2001-01-11 -0800, you wrote:
  I need to check to be sure, but I believe both are HFS +.
  The powerbook is running Retrospect, and backing itself up
  onto a firewire drive.
  --

  The 2 gb limit is damn annoying but you have to get used to it. The limit
  is the mac os itself, not retrospect.

Well, that's not entirely true -- the other night I captured 54 minutes of
video at 340x240x16, and the resulting file is almost 15Gb in size, so files
bigger than 2Gb are entirely possible.

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Re: Retrospect scripts and OS9

2001-01-12 Thread Tim David

sorry to be ambiguous with this.  I was referring to the Applescript,
specifically the script that comes with the client to reset the prefs. (it
is called Client Preferences Cleaner)  I am far from an Applescript expert
but I can't get the same script to run on an OS9 machine and an OS8.6
machine.
Can that be done or will I need two different scripts?
Tim


"Chad S. Chelius" wrote:

 Tim,
 I'm not sure if I understand your question.  Are you talking about a
 Retrospect script or an Applescript?  Also what do you mean by clean up?
 Please explain.

 Chad Chelius
  I had a script modified to clean up the Retrospect Control Panel prefs
  on the client machines. I upgraded one of my users to an iMac running
  OS9 and tried to run the script and it will not run under OS9.
  how can I edit the script to run in OS9?
  Tim

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Re: 2gb limit?

2001-01-12 Thread Donovan Brooke


dana, If you are not absolutley sure that the firewire drive is HFS+
I would
double check it. (do a get info on the drive) look for
Mac OS Extended. - D
Shawn Welter wrote:
Mac os 9 supported files over 2gb. To use retrospect
you need version
4.3. I currently back up 40 mac clients and 10 pc clients to 60gb IDE
drives using mac files. Some backup sets are 12gb apiece. We do
massive selecting as all are software is installed by filewave. Each
client averages about 100mb of data. Our servers are backed up using
a separate machine to a DLT changer.
shawn
> > At 19:34 2001-01-11 -0800, you wrote:
>>> I need to check to be sure, but I believe both are HFS +.
>>> The powerbook is running Retrospect, and backing itself up
>>> onto a firewire drive.
>>> --
>>
>> The 2 gb limit is damn annoying but you have to get used to
it. The limit
>> is the mac os itself, not retrospect.
>
>Well, that's not entirely true -- the other night I captured 54 minutes
of
>video at 340x240x16, and the resulting file is almost 15Gb in size,
so files
>bigger than 2Gb are entirely possible.
>


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D. Brooke
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Assc. Art Director
Epsen
Hillmer Graphics


Re: 2gb limit?

2001-01-12 Thread dana rasmussen

Virex, forgot all about that.  Thank you, one and all.
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 From: "Dan O'Donnell" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 16:51:19 -0800
 To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: 2gb limit?
 
 At 10:39 AM +1100 on 1/13/01, Malcolm McLeary wrote:
 I don't recall the exact error message but all my problems disappeared when
 I removed Virex 5.9.1 from the machine doing the backups (i.e. I had not
 installed Virex on the iBook).  A later version may help or it may be a
 config issue ... I chose to simplify the config of my backup machine and
 dump Virex.
 
 Oops, I forgot about this one. This was a known problem with that
 version of Virex. It also affected AppleShare, causing network hangs
 on file transfers.
 
 The solution to this problem is to upgrade to Virex 6.x. The new
 control panel can be used without problem.
 
 Dan O'Donnell
 
 
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