[sage-devel] Re: another problem building maxima on cygwin

2011-11-28 Thread Dima Pasechnik
I just checked, and saw that under Sage's ECL lisp (i.e. sage -lisp), (pathname ) produces an error (illegal seek) on Cygwin, while on MacOSX and Linux it's perfectly OK. -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to

[sage-devel] Re: another problem building maxima on cygwin

2011-11-28 Thread Dima Pasechnik
I guess the root of the problem is here: here is another weirdness, which might explain the PATHNAME error message On Cygwin, ECL gives (directory ) NIL while on supported systems (MacOSX, Linux) you get the current directory: (directory ) (#P/private/tmp/) And on Cygwin directory

Re: [sage-devel] Re: MathCad-like front end for Sage

2011-11-28 Thread Serge A. Salamanka
Personaly, I'm more interested in Matlab-like IDE called Spyder http://code.google.com/p/spyderlib/ This could be also a great front end for Sage. [just for information], Serge -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email

[sage-devel] Re: MathCad-like front end for Sage

2011-11-28 Thread Dima Pasechnik
It's much more urgent to work on the Sage notebook, than to create yet another frontend. IMHO. -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at

[sage-devel] Re: Symbolic integration issue with abs_integrate (Maxima)

2011-11-28 Thread Dima Pasechnik
Can someone give me a hint how I can upgrade my Maxima spkg to test?) What's the best way to proceed? you can try replacing everything in maxima-5.23.2.p0/src/ with the new Maxima release, then rebuild it. Have at look at http://www.sagemath.org/doc/developer/producing_spkgs.html and

[sage-devel] Re: Towards a proposal for faster linear algebra over GF(q), q255 odd and non-prime

2011-11-28 Thread Simon King
Hi Nicolas, On 28 Nov., 12:31, Nicolas M. Thiery nicolas.thi...@u-psud.fr wrote: But before being able to finish the spkg, I need some advice: Am I patching MeatAxe, or am I creating a fork? I think the answer has an impact on some details of the spkg I am now creating. What do the

[sage-devel] Re: Towards a proposal for faster linear algebra over GF(q), q255 odd and non-prime

2011-11-28 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Monday, 28 November 2011 04:42:49 UTC+8, Simon King wrote: Hi! Since quite some time, I'm using the Aachen C-MeatAxe as backend for linear algebra over fields of size 255. I think I am now able to produce spkg+patch, as an optional and hopefully eventually standard package. I see

Re: [sage-devel] Re: MathCad-like front end for Sage

2011-11-28 Thread Florent Hivert
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 01:25:33PM +0300, Serge A. Salamanka wrote: Personaly, I'm more interested in Matlab-like IDE called Spyder http://code.google.com/p/spyderlib/ This could be also a great front end for Sage. +1 Incidentally, Pierre Raybaut, the main developper of Spyder work in the

[sage-devel] Re: Towards a proposal for faster linear algebra over GF(q), q255 odd and non-prime

2011-11-28 Thread Simon King
Hi Dima, On 28 Nov., 13:40, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, 28 November 2011 04:42:49 UTC+8, Simon King wrote: My starting point is C-MeatAxe version 2.2.4. This version is not the most recent, but it is the *only* version that is licenced under GPL 2+. In fact, apart

[sage-devel] Re: MathCad-like front end for Sage

2011-11-28 Thread Emil Widmann
On Nov 28, 11:33 am, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: It's much more urgent to work on the Sage notebook, than to create yet another frontend. IMHO. Probably true. Anyhow, people will work on whatever project they like... I guess I am ignorant, but it should be possible to give the

Re: [sage-devel] Towards a proposal for faster linear algebra over GF(q), q255 odd and non-prime

2011-11-28 Thread Martin Albrecht
Hi Simon, On 27 November 2011 20:42, Simon King simon.k...@uni-jena.de wrote: Hi! Since quite some time, I'm using the Aachen C-MeatAxe as backend for linear algebra over fields of size 255. I think I am now able to produce spkg+patch, as an optional and hopefully eventually standard

[sage-devel] Re: MathCad-like front end for Sage

2011-11-28 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Monday, 28 November 2011 21:29:32 UTC+8, Emil Widmann wrote: On Nov 28, 11:33 am, Dima Pasechnik dim...@gmail.com wrote: It's much more urgent to work on the Sage notebook, than to create yet another frontend. IMHO. Probably true. Anyhow, people will work on whatever project they

[sage-devel] Re: Towards a proposal for faster linear algebra over GF(q), q255 odd and non-prime

2011-11-28 Thread Simon King
Hi Martin, On 28 Nov., 14:39, Martin Albrecht martinralbre...@googlemail.com wrote: I am definitely all for making it at least an optional package. That being said, I'm not convinced yet that going for MeatAxe is such a good strategy eventually. My impression is that going for LinBox +

[sage-devel] Sage 4.7.2 make failure on Thinkpad T-40 with Oneiric Ubuntu

2011-11-28 Thread Dale Amon
I think this is the point at which it failed, but I an not quite sure what headers or libs it is talking about. configure: error: --with-readline=yes (default) and headers/libs are not available Error configuring R. Rather a bummer after watching it run for 4-5 hours... -- To post to this

[sage-devel] Re: MathCad-like front end for Sage

2011-11-28 Thread Jason Grout
On 11/28/11 6:29 AM, Emil Widmann wrote: On Nov 28, 11:33 am, Dima Pasechnikdimp...@gmail.com wrote: It's much more urgent to work on the Sage notebook, than to create yet another frontend. IMHO. Probably true. Anyhow, people will work on whatever project they like... I guess I am ignorant,

[sage-devel] Re: Towards a proposal for faster linear algebra over GF(q), q255 odd and non-prime

2011-11-28 Thread Dima Pasechnik
Hi Simon, I wonder if a part of MeatAxe actually got merged into GAP http://www.gap-system.org/Manuals/doc/htm/ref/CHAP067.htm#SECT001 Dima -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.7.2 make failure on Thinkpad T-40 with Oneiric Ubuntu

2011-11-28 Thread Dima Pasechnik
Try installing libreadline-dev (this belongs to sage-support, so I cc there). Dmitrii -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at

[sage-devel] Re: Towards a proposal for faster linear algebra over GF(q), q255 odd and non-prime

2011-11-28 Thread Simon King
Hi Dima, On 28 Nov., 16:02, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Simon, I wonder if a part of MeatAxe actually got merged into GAPhttp://www.gap-system.org/Manuals/doc/htm/ref/CHAP067.htm#SECT001 Yes, MeatAxe is in GAP (I heard that before), but I don't know in what form exactly. The

[sage-devel] Re: Towards a proposal for faster linear algebra over GF(q), q255 odd and non-prime

2011-11-28 Thread Jason Grout
On 11/28/11 6:21 AM, Simon King wrote: I was not aware that the COPYING was missing in version 2.4.13. Is it really legally possible to understand the words under the terms of the GNU General Public Licences as you may choose what version of GPL you like? According to section 14 of the GPLv3

[sage-devel] Re: Towards a proposal for faster linear algebra over GF(q), q255 odd and non-prime

2011-11-28 Thread Simon King
Hi Dima, On 28 Nov., 16:24, Simon King simon.k...@uni-jena.de wrote: On 28 Nov., 16:02, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Simon, I wonder if a part of MeatAxe actually got merged into GAPhttp://www.gap-system.org/Manuals/doc/htm/ref/CHAP067.htm#SECT001 Yes, MeatAxe is in GAP

[sage-devel] Re: Towards a proposal for faster linear algebra over GF(q), q255 odd and non-prime

2011-11-28 Thread Simon King
Hi Jason, On 28 Nov., 16:27, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: That is my understanding with any GPL license---if you don't specify version numbers, the user gets to pick whatever version number they want. That would make life a bit easier. The main question for me remains:

[sage-devel] Re: another problem building maxima on cygwin

2011-11-28 Thread Nils Bruin
On Nov 28, 1:29 am, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: I guess the root of the problem is here: here is another weirdness, which might explain the PATHNAME error message On Cygwin, ECL gives (directory ) NIL while on supported systems (MacOSX, Linux) you get the current directory:

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Towards a proposal for faster linear algebra over GF(q), q255 odd and non-prime

2011-11-28 Thread Martin Albrecht
On Monday 28 November 2011, Simon King wrote: Hi Martin, Hi Simon, Indeed. The prime slice (earlier, you named it bitslice) approach should not be forgotten. Yep, btislice (p=2) and prime slice (p 2) :) But I wonder one thing: How would you compute echelon forms using bitslice? Is that

[sage-devel] Fwd: [gdr-im] Workshop on PARI/GP development (Bordeaux 2012)

2011-11-28 Thread Martin Albrecht
This looks relevant to Sage and wasn't posted here yet. -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: [gdr-im] Workshop on PARI/GP development (Bordeaux 2012) Date: Monday 28 November 2011 From: Karim Belabas karim.bela...@math.u-bordeaux1.fr To: pari-...@pari.math.u-bordeaux.fr,

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Symbolic integration issue with abs_integrate (Maxima)

2011-11-28 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 11/28/11 05:44, Dima Pasechnik wrote: Can someone give me a hint how I can upgrade my Maxima spkg to test?) What's the best way to proceed? you can try replacing everything in maxima-5.23.2.p0/src/ with the new Maxima release, then rebuild it. Have at look at

[sage-devel] Re: another problem building maxima on cygwin

2011-11-28 Thread Nils Bruin
My apologies for the last message. That didn't tell you anything you didn't already know. A little digging in the source got me to: http://ecls.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=ecls/ecl;a=blob;f=src/c/pathname.d;h=d35bcc58eeeb1f3766b8fc25140253852d94e216;hb=HEAD#l736 which tries to define

[sage-devel] Re: Symbolic integration issue with abs_integrate (Maxima)

2011-11-28 Thread kcrisman
On Nov 28, 12:29 pm, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: On 11/28/11 05:44, Dima Pasechnik wrote: Can someone give me a hint how I can upgrade my Maxima spkg to test?) What's the best way to proceed? you can try replacing everything in maxima-5.23.2.p0/src/ with the new

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Symbolic integration issue with abs_integrate (Maxima)

2011-11-28 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 11/28/11 12:57, kcrisman wrote: You might want to first look at http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/11966 and base on that spkg, to ensure we also work on Lion. Yup, I'm using the latest alpha which has this applied already. The patches still apply cleanly to the new Maxima, but

Re: [sage-devel] Re: MathCad-like front end for Sage

2011-11-28 Thread David Roe
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 08:56, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, 28 November 2011 21:29:32 UTC+8, Emil Widmann wrote: On Nov 28, 11:33 am, Dima Pasechnik dim...@gmail.com wrote: It's much more urgent to work on the Sage notebook, than to create yet another frontend.

[sage-devel] Re: another problem building maxima on cygwin

2011-11-28 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Tuesday, November 29, 2011 1:49:59 AM UTC+8, Nils Bruin wrote: My apologies for the last message. That didn't tell you anything you didn't already know. A little digging in the source got me to:

[sage-devel] Re: MathCad-like front end for Sage

2011-11-28 Thread Emil Widmann
What do you have in mind?  I have some ideas for more advanced editing, but the technology and tools are catching up at this point (i.e., we could do it, but outside projects are approaching the right capabilities, so I'd rather use actively-maintained outside projects). Hi Jason, I was

Re: [sage-devel] Re: MathCad-like front end for Sage

2011-11-28 Thread William Stein
On Nov 28, 2011 11:07 AM, David Roe r...@math.harvard.edu wrote: On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 08:56, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, 28 November 2011 21:29:32 UTC+8, Emil Widmann wrote: On Nov 28, 11:33 am, Dima Pasechnik dim...@gmail.com wrote: It's much more urgent

Re: [sage-devel] Re: MathCad-like front end for Sage

2011-11-28 Thread William Stein
On Nov 28, 2011 11:31 AM, Emil Widmann emil.widm...@gmail.com wrote: What do you have in mind? I have some ideas for more advanced editing, but the technology and tools are catching up at this point (i.e., we could do it, but outside projects are approaching the right capabilities, so

Re: [sage-devel] Re: MathCad-like front end for Sage

2011-11-28 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:36:46 AM UTC+8, William wrote: On Nov 28, 2011 11:07 AM, David Roe ro...@math.harvard.edu wrote: On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 08:56, Dima Pasechnik dim...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, 28 November 2011 21:29:32 UTC+8, Emil Widmann wrote: On Nov 28,

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.7.2 make failure on Thinkpad T-40 with Oneiric Ubuntu

2011-11-28 Thread Dale Amon
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 07:07:04AM -0800, Dima Pasechnik wrote: Try installing libreadline-dev (this belongs to sage-support, so I cc there). Dmitrii Thanks. Seems this is something to add to the list of required packages to be installed before starting. I restarted make... so I will know

[sage-devel] Re: MathCad-like front end for Sage

2011-11-28 Thread Jaap Spies
David Roe wrote: On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 08:56, Dima Pasechnikdimp...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, 28 November 2011 21:29:32 UTC+8, Emil Widmann wrote: On Nov 28, 11:33 am, Dima Pasechnikdim...@gmail.com wrote: It's much more urgent to work on the Sage notebook, than to create yet another

[sage-devel] Starting a Stack Exchange for Numerical Modeling!

2011-11-28 Thread Matt Goodman
Commit to it: http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/1907/numerical-modeling-and-simulation?referrer=KuhAUaQsASKENXVbMz64bg2 --Matthew Goodman = Check Out My Website: http://craneium.net Find me on LinkedIn: http://tinyurl.com/d6wlch -- To post to this group, send an

[sage-devel] numpy-1.6.x and sage types

2011-11-28 Thread Francois Bissey
Hi, I have been looking at upgrading numpy again in #11334 Everything seem to build fine but the doctest failures reveal some possibly deep problems. In several tests a numpy array is prepared with numpy.linspace (there are at least two in functions/other.py). Then a function is appled to the

[sage-devel] Re: another problem building maxima on cygwin

2011-11-28 Thread Nils Bruin
On Nov 28, 11:12 am, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: I also tried to set the argument of :move-to to an absolute path, but this did not help. And just removing the :move-here ...? The normal behaviour of ASDF should just place the result somewhere in a local tree. The variable

[sage-devel] Re: another problem building maxima on cygwin

2011-11-28 Thread Juanjo
Hi Dima, I am sorry, but I do not read this group frequently -- too much work to do --. Following your request I just built ECL from CVS/git on a cygwin box and definitely I do not see the problems you seem to experience. On Monday, November 28, 2011 10:29:28 AM UTC+1, Dima Pasechnik wrote:

[sage-devel] Re: tentative PIL-1.1.7.p0.spkg

2011-11-28 Thread Bill Janssen
I've now placed a new version of pil-1.1.7.p0.spkg at http://uplib.parc.com/misc/pil-1.1.7.p0.spkg. This contains the .hg files, but I'm still not sure I've got that correct. By the way, spkg-check still runs on OS X, but not on Ubuntu. I've tested it with Sage 4.7.2 on both; seems to build and

[sage-devel] Re: Towards a proposal for faster linear algebra over GF(q), q255 odd and non-prime

2011-11-28 Thread Simon King
Hi All! Following Nicolas' suggestion, I asked the MeatAxe developers (i.e., mainly Michael Ringe, and also Klaus Lux). They seem to have no objections against using a major modification of their code (sure, it's GPL at the end of the day). Of course, maintenance and compatibility are a little

[sage-devel] Re: MathCad-like front end for Sage

2011-11-28 Thread kcrisman
Probably true. Anyhow, people will work on whatever project they like... People should not work on projects that are a waste of resources. I strongly disagree.  If someone want to work on Sage, then we should provide advice but by no means tell them what to do.  It's a plus for the

Re: [sage-devel] Re: MathCad-like front end for Sage

2011-11-28 Thread Fernando Perez
I unfortunately don't keep up with sage-dev as much as I'd like to, so forgive me if I'm saying something you all already know... On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 4:08 AM, Nicolas M. Thiery nicolas.thi...@u-psud.fr wrote: Has anyone tried and managed to get Spyder to work with Sage? Once sage is ported

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Symbolic integration issue with abs_integrate (Maxima)

2011-11-28 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 11/28/2011 01:20 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 11/28/11 12:57, kcrisman wrote: You might want to first look at http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/11966 and base on that spkg, to ensure we also work on Lion. Trac #12094 now. I went with Maxima 5.24.0 because there's another

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.7.2 make failure on Thinkpad T-40 with Oneiric Ubuntu

2011-11-28 Thread Dima Pasechnik
oops, I think I was too quick, sorry. readline is now distributed with Sage. So the error you got means that it was not properly installed, yet the installation happily went further. Could you look at install.log and find out whether readline, more precisely, readline-6.1, installed OK? Do

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.7.2 make failure on Thinkpad T-40 with Oneiric Ubuntu

2011-11-28 Thread John H Palmieri
Try searching the group sage-devel (and possibly sage-release) for readline configuring R. The following thread might be useful, for example: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/sage-devel/readline$20configuring$20r/sage-devel/B7y-ntx13Os/m2kJoygRxMYJ -- John -- To post to this

Re: [sage-devel] Re: MathCad-like front end for Sage

2011-11-28 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Tuesday, 29 November 2011 03:07:19 UTC+8, David Roe wrote: On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 08:56, Dima Pasechnik dim...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, 28 November 2011 21:29:32 UTC+8, Emil Widmann wrote: On Nov 28, 11:33 am, Dima Pasechnik dim...@gmail.com wrote: It's much more urgent to

[sage-devel] Re: another problem building maxima on cygwin

2011-11-28 Thread Dima Pasechnik
Hi Juanjo, On Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:57:04 AM UTC+8, Juanjo wrote: Hi Dima, I am sorry, but I do not read this group frequently -- too much work to do --. Following your request I just built ECL from CVS/git on a cygwin box and definitely I do not see the problems you seem to

[sage-devel] Re: MathCad-like front end for Sage

2011-11-28 Thread Emil Widmann
Try shift clicking on the blue line that appears when you put your mouse between code cells. sometimes one has to admit total noobiness to learn something :-) thank you -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to